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A LAB majority NO – but PM Starmer more likely – politicalbetting.com
A LAB majority NO – but PM Starmer more likely – politicalbetting.com
The big message from the local election results is that the Tories suffered a lot of losses, particularly in places in the South which the party once regarded as its homeland.
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The Tories have lost control of another council to no overall control - Huntingdonshire.
It has been in Conservative control since 1976, and is the council of ex-prime minister John Major's former constituency.
https://news.sky.com/story/local-elections-live-news-labour-conservatives-boris-johnson-keir-starmer-politics-latest-12593360
I'm really intrigued about this. More rural votes counted in the daytime?
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/3906695#Comment_3906695
If the rules were the same then if Boris was in the wrong, so was SKS.
The question is now if they will follow the precedence set by the Met and issue a retrospective FPN. Had the Met not done so, they never would have I expect, but they'll be under immense pressure from both directions now.
Overall the local election results seem to be summable in one word: "Meh".
If he has, then he must resign immediately.
It is over.
FPT
@Nigel_Foremain
'You have the ideal result for you IMO. If Labour had done too well, Johnson would be toast and the Tory Party would regenerate itself. This way The Clown most likely remains clinging on by his fingernails maximising the chances of a Labour victory. This does not thrill me, but it should please you. '
My own sentiments exactly, Nigel.
Labour is doing better but I suspect some of this is less to do with Starmer and Labour policies and more to do with the fact they’re the default choice with the Tories self imploding. This does give the Tories a way back in when it comes to the “Crunch” - i.e the moment when the election is called where you have to make up your mind whether you really want to change governments or not.
At this point I can see anything from Lab largest party in hung Parliament to Tory majority of 30 or so. I think the next GE complain is going to be pretty nasty and ill-mannered and the Tories are going to pull out every trick in the book. As I mentioned in the previous thread, I think a lot of the attacks will be targeted at the “woke elite” and there’s a good chance it might just save them in some marginals.
Edit: wrong council, sorry!
This should spell extreme danger for the SCons at both Westminster and Holyrood, so many of their seats are based on "borrowed" Lib Dem votes.
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Middleton Park (Leeds):
SDP: 50.8% (+28.5)
LAB: 36.1% (-25.0)
CON: 7.7% (-3.6)
GRN: 3.9% (New)
LDM: 1.5% (-3.8)
SDP GAIN from Labour.
12:50 PM · May 6, 2022
Boris Johnson could call a snap election for next month. Kills off leadership talk and he might just buy himself 5 more years on a slender majority. That would be sufficient to ride out the shitstorm which is coming.
If they go to the polls in 2 years they haven't a prayer.
Fuck them all - they voted for those stupid rules and now it is fantastic karma that they are the ones (I very much hope) who will be brought down by them.
“Following receipt of significant new information...Durham Constabulary has reviewed that position and now...we can confirm that an investigation into potential breaches of Covid-19 regulations relating to this gathering is now being conducted.”
I mean, 80s tribute acts are popular. Any Liberal Party wins out there? I miss them.
Not a fan of the press being a factor in whether something is investigated tbh.
The Beeb feel that as custodians of the nation's money they shouldn't broadcast speculative results before they're confirmed. Which is fine in theory but crap in practice. Apart from a few occasions, when a party worker actually at the count tells you they've won or lost it's a fair bet that's it's correct.
And I'm afraid it's probably time dear old John Curtice was retired off.
And Keir wanted to keep those stupid rules for even longer, even after the vaccines had been rolled out, and made a stink about others breaching them.
Sod the lot of them. Boris, Keir, Sturgeon, Drakeford - they all broke the rules, they all imposed/voted for them. They should all go, clear them all out.
While OGH's header is correct - this is not a transfer of power to Labour- it is a dramatic collapse in Tory fortunes.
If rules were broken, Keir is finished clearly. But as a former DPP he must know one way or the other.
I'm not religious, but "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" is a good line and Keir has been throwing plenty of stones about cake/alcohol while he knew he was guilty of the same offence so 🤷♂️
This is fantastic news for Johnson however, because even if he gets a slew of FPNs the Starmer revelation takes out the sting. Johnson is further emboldened by the Gray Report having been discredited.
This is superb work by Crosby, the Mail and the Telegraph. Big Dog is saved, Starmer falls!
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1522557754480734208
Wow, deja vu. Have Labour not learnt the lesson from what Boris did?
Probably even bigger than Hull, at a top of Libdem hopeometer at start of evening.
Probably massive really. Biblical.
I for have cool suggestion Ed, really cool, you like this, don’t use mallet to knock down the blue wall boxes down this time. Use a suitcase with clanking bottles inside.
Then give me all the bottles.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2022/england/councils/E07000116
Does the below mean Alba will be without elected representation, Kenny M & Hanvey aside?
However, If he does get a FPN, Starmer deserves to go, just for being a complete fucking idiot by banging on how BJ’s transgressions when he was doing the same thing himself *
He doesn’t even have BJ’s excuse of being a disorganised prat. He’s a QC and was head of the CPS. Imagine having him as your barrister in a trial. Christ.
Ps maybe Mike should change the title for the header…
* if he is found guilty of course
However a much stronger chance of Starmer becoming PM in a hung parliament with Liberal Democrats support
Boris Johnson broke the rules. He should resign.
It really is that simple.
Instead they went all in, when it seems they might have been guilty of similar, or worse.
Johnson's fall in the polls are partly due to partygate, and that was an utterly self-inflicted wound. I'd expect better from a top lawyer such as Starmer.
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Sky tend to do it a bit better. Neither are a patch on the US networks for the American elections who often have even LESS to work with given the slow pace of their results.
🍺 misleading account of guest list and growing size
📸 picture of Met officers at gathering
🥘 £200 order - not including beer
👁🗨 witnesses came forward to say they were not contacted
🤷🏻♂️ misleading claims nothing else was open
Andy Burnham to stand?
It's the cover-up that gets you.
Sad really.
First Stephen Lawrence killers now ...........
Surely this kind of stuff would be a good way to "fill out" an election night program? These days, cheap as chips to do.
I can see the attraction for a certain type of dedicated, lifelong independence campaigner (eg Kenny). But there is absolutely zero attraction for younger folk and people who are softer on or newly converted to independence (last decade).
If Starmer accepts an FPN Starmer must both resign both the leadership and his seat. I hope he doesn't get an FPN as Beergate really isn't a patch on Partygate and misleading the House, but if convicted he must go.
Can your boy Burnham make himself available?
CultistSupporter: Just wait for the council elections, then you'll see out strength.... oh.One's temporarily left the Tories, but has promised to return when Johnson's been fired
One used to be Labour, but stormed out when Starmer took Corbyn's whip away
The third left the Tories over a planning dispute, and is now a member of whatever the Farage Party's calling itself this week.
The only thing our Independents share is that they loathe the Tories under Johnson's control more than the LibDems, Labour or Greens do.