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  • EDW20000
    EDW20000 Posts: 138
    At least that powertool Boris is finished
  • NoEasyDay
    NoEasyDay Posts: 454
    Eh_ehm_a_eh said:

    Scott_P said:

    @AlanRoden: Senior LibDem source: Danny Alexander has lost. #ge2015

    Shame.

    Nah quite like Danny. Behaved sensibly in government unlike that twat Cable.
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    ukelect said:

    Lots of percentages could cause exit poll results, e.g. Con 37, Lab 30, UKIP 16, LD 8

    I think it could potentially be as little as a 4% gap. The swings have just been right for the Tories where they needed them.
  • ukelect
    ukelect Posts: 140
    I meant Con 37, Lab 30, UKIP 16, LD 6 (with LD incumbency support very firmly turned off in the forecasting!)
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Bradford Telegraph woman

    Claire Wilde ‏@ClaireW_TandA 2 min2 minuti fa Visualizza traduzione
    Labour party officials looking confident while watching the Bradford West count. Lib Dems looking nervous over on the Bradford East tables.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    fitalass said:

    Lets remember where that last Conservative Opposition had their base camp compared to Tony Blair in 1997, they were still under 200 seats after the previous three elections. Can we please keep it real about just what an achievement coming from that base to damn near a majority was in one GE?

    tlg86 said:

    fitalass said:

    Really?! Incumbent Conservative Government in a Coalition in difficult economic times looks to be on course to improve their previous position after that shock Exit poll, and totally against the tide of recent polling. And you are bitching about their campaign not being effective enough?!

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    How well would the Tories had done if they had actually a decent campaign with some clear policies?

    I think the problem is where the Tories started from. They should have cleaned up last time.
    I know what you mean. I think the election came 12 months too late for the Tories and the expenses scandal appeared to cost them more than Labour (they had more to lose by 2009, after all).
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,728
    Big winner of the night....Russell Brand...he just got another 5 years of income.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    ukelect said:

    Lots of percentages could cause exit poll results, e.g. Con 37, Lab 30, UKIP 16, LD 8

    It would need a Tory lead of about 9%.
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/596439417742581761

    Aw bless. Aren't socialists, y'know, nice. Vote Labour.

  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Casino_Royale said:

    How does Broxtowe look?

    Bad imo
  • Concanvasser
    Concanvasser Posts: 191
    Not sure if IOS has been able to report whether his fired up Labourites turned out where he or she was today?
  • Eh_ehm_a_eh
    Eh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Some Northern Ireland seats to declare soon?
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    First negative comments Ive heard about SNP from Kirsty Wark in Edinburgh saying Labour think they can hold Edib South and Edin North and Leith.

    The second one sounds completely ridiculous. But it's Kirsty "I was on the committee which screwed up the Scottish Parliament then made the documentary that said it wasn't Labour's fault because I love Labour" Wark.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    TOPPING said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/596439417742581761

    You'd have to have a heart of stone...
    Laurie Penny appears to have travelled back in time 1800 years. Those Romans were so heartless.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Even if you "split the difference", it's 300 Con MPs, beyond the upper limit of forecasts in recents days.
  • SandyRentool
    SandyRentool Posts: 23,156
    OK, so we'll have to put #Priti4Leader on ice for a few years but she must be guaranteed a seat in cabinet?
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Casino_Royale said:

    How does Broxtowe look?

    JackW said:

    Roger said:

    Who'd have thought ARSE would be the new Gold Standard!

    Roger you didn't think so, which ensured my ARSE would continue to be the gold standard. :smile:

    Rogerdamus tipped the Cons most seats in the pub on Tuesday. He may be a secret ARSE admirer...
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    holly watt ‏@holly_watt 33 secs33 seconds ago

    One of the Tory team at the Nuneaton count says they are now "quietly confident" of holding seat

    Exxxxceeelllennnt... (in a Mr Burns voice)
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    Alan Roden of Telegraph says LiB dems already conceding Inverness Nairn Badenoch and Strathspey.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,728
    edited May 2015
    Please please please say Cable has gone as well. The country doesn't need another 5 years of him....one of the most useless Coalition Ministers of the past 5 years.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    KentRising said:

    Even if you "split the difference", it's 300 Con MPs, beyond the upper limit of forecasts in recents days.

    Apart from the glorious ARSE (guaranteed BRAN free).
  • Eh_ehm_a_eh
    Eh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    50% for SNP in Rutherglen
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited May 2015
    Speedy said:

    ukelect said:

    Lots of percentages could cause exit poll results, e.g. Con 37, Lab 30, UKIP 16, LD 8

    It would need a Tory lead of about 9%.
    It's hard to see how with a 4% Con->Lab swing in Sunderland, even accounting for differential swings.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Dair said:

    First negative comments Ive heard about SNP from Kirsty Wark in Edinburgh saying Labour think they can hold Edib South and Edin North and Leith.

    The second one sounds completely ridiculous. But it's Kirsty "I was on the committee which screwed up the Scottish Parliament then made the documentary that said it wasn't Labour's fault because I love Labour" Wark.

    Any Labour retainer in scotland would be a nail to an Exit Poll coffin.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Danny565 said:

    MikeL said:

    Which seats does exit forecast Lab to gain from Con?

    There must be quite a few.

    They only hovered over it so couldn't get a proper look, but I saw Thurrock and Pudsey.
    Thanks.

    Does seem odd that there are such wide variations in Con/Lab battles.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Danny Alexander expected to lose seat say LDs
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    Dair said:

    First negative comments Ive heard about SNP from Kirsty Wark in Edinburgh saying Labour think they can hold Edib South and Edin North and Leith.

    The second one sounds completely ridiculous. But it's Kirsty "I was on the committee which screwed up the Scottish Parliament then made the documentary that said it wasn't Labour's fault because I love Labour" Wark.

    Sarah (John's daughter) Smith saying the same thing
  • No_Offence_Alan
    No_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,120
    fitalass said:

    Lets remember where that last Conservative Opposition had their base camp compared to Tony Blair in 1997, they were still under 200 seats after the previous three elections. Can we please keep it real about just what an achievement coming from that base to damn near a majority was in one GE?

    tlg86 said:

    fitalass said:

    Really?! Incumbent Conservative Government in a Coalition in difficult economic times looks to be on course to improve their previous position after that shock Exit poll, and totally against the tide of recent polling. And you are bitching about their campaign not being effective enough?!

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    How well would the Tories had done if they had actually a decent campaign with some clear policies?

    I think the problem is where the Tories started from. They should have cleaned up last time.
    For all the talk of the "old 2-party system" 1970 was the last time a working majority for one party became a working majority for the other. By 1979 Labour, and by 1992 Tories had lost their majorities through by-election losses.

  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    So will George Galloway be sending legal letters to everyone that didn't vote for him in Bradford?
  • Bond_James_Bond
    Bond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    Prodicus said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/596439417742581761

    Aw bless. Aren't socialists, y'know, nice. Vote Labour.

    Of all there is to despise about Labour I think the narcissism is worst.
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    BBC Scotland say East Lanarkshire is "Catastrophic" for Scottish Labour.
  • nigel4england
    nigel4england Posts: 4,800
    RobD said:

    KentRising said:

    Even if you "split the difference", it's 300 Con MPs, beyond the upper limit of forecasts in recents days.

    Apart from the glorious ARSE (guaranteed BRAN free).
    RobD said:

    KentRising said:

    Even if you "split the difference", it's 300 Con MPs, beyond the upper limit of forecasts in recents days.

    Apart from the glorious ARSE (guaranteed BRAN free).
    And me.
  • fitalass
    fitalass Posts: 4,444
    Yes, I would totally agree with you on that really important point.
    tlg86 said:

    fitalass said:

    Lets remember where that last Conservative Opposition had their base camp compared to Tony Blair in 1997, they were still under 200 seats after the previous three elections. Can we please keep it real about just what an achievement coming from that base to damn near a majority was in one GE?

    tlg86 said:

    fitalass said:

    Really?! Incumbent Conservative Government in a Coalition in difficult economic times looks to be on course to improve their previous position after that shock Exit poll, and totally against the tide of recent polling. And you are bitching about their campaign not being effective enough?!

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    How well would the Tories had done if they had actually a decent campaign with some clear policies?

    I think the problem is where the Tories started from. They should have cleaned up last time.
    I know what you mean. I think the election came 12 months too late for the Tories and the expenses scandal appeared to cost them more than Labour (they had more to lose by 2009, after all).
  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287
    foxinsoxuk said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    How does Broxtowe look?

    JackW said:

    Roger said:

    Who'd have thought ARSE would be the new Gold Standard!

    Roger you didn't think so, which ensured my ARSE would continue to be the gold standard. :smile:

    Rogerdamus tipped the Cons most seats in the pub on Tuesday. He may be a secret ARSE admirer...
    There were many of us whose mouths watered as we gazed upon Jack's ARSE.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Dair said:

    Alan Roden of Telegraph says LiB dems already conceding Inverness Nairn Badenoch and Strathspey.

    He was nearly 30% behind on Ashcroft, so no great surprise.
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    Eh_ehm_a_eh said:

    50% for SNP in Rutherglen

    It's coming home...
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @paulwaugh: Poignant moment on BBC as the excellent Sarah Smith explains SNP surge with reference to Labour’s record after death of her late father John
  • Andrew
    Andrew Posts: 2,900
    edited May 2015
    What was it the Tories' internal polls were saying? 303? 305? We all mocked it here, but it's looking pretty accurate now. So, how come they can conduct an opinion poll properly and nobody else can? (other than Jack's mighty ARSE, of course).
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    nigel4england said:

    RobD said:

    KentRising said:

    Even if you "split the difference", it's 300 Con MPs, beyond the upper limit of forecasts in recents days.

    Apart from the glorious ARSE (guaranteed BRAN free).
    RobD said:

    KentRising said:

    Even if you "split the difference", it's 300 Con MPs, beyond the upper limit of forecasts in recents days.

    Apart from the glorious ARSE (guaranteed BRAN free).
    And me.
    My apologies (can't move for the number of ARSEs we've seen in recent weeks, so easy to miss others!)
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Farage sounding quite angry on Sky News
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Farage seems very very grumpy
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Dair said:

    Eh_ehm_a_eh said:

    50% for SNP in Rutherglen

    It's coming home...
    Nats filling up the opposition benches nicely.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    No-one who was a Labour minister in the last Labour government should stand for the leadership. They are yesterday's news. Let Chukka, Liz and Dan battle it out. It's time for a new start.
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    BBC Scotland - Gordon is comfortable for Alex Salnond.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So will George Galloway be sending legal letters to everyone that didn't vote for him in Bradford?

    He owes me -20
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,728
    Wow Farage is really really pissed off. No smiley smiley lets have a pint.
  • The_Apocalypse
    The_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Concanvasser said:

    Not sure if IOS has been able to report whether his fired up Labourites turned out where he or she was today?

    I don't know how he was so confident. I've been nervy for the last couple of days, although I thought the Tories would be on 290, at most.

    LOL at Dinsmore thinking a minority adminstration will be 'stable'.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Pulpstar said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    How does Broxtowe look?

    Bad imo
    Sad but true.
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    So who will be next Labour leader? Perhaps someone who can occasionally do deals with Tories to get certain legislation (that could also be considered One Nation Toryism) passed? Obvs. not a Scot. Stella?
  • Fenster
    Fenster Posts: 2,115
    SouthamObserver said:

    No-one who was a Labour minister in the last Labour government should stand for the leadership. They are yesterday's news. Let Chukka, Liz and Dan battle it out. It's time for a new start.

    Is Dan that handsome army bloke who comes across well on telly?

    If so, I agree - good choice.

  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Labour may be sub-30% if the exit poll is right.
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    SouthamObserver said:

    No-one who was a Labour minister in the last Labour government should stand for the leadership. They are yesterday's news. Let Chukka, Liz and Dan battle it out. It's time for a new start.

    Really? I think if anything the opposite. One of the main problems imo with Ed is he didn't have ENOUGH experience on the political frontline. He had no idea how to communicate because he simply didn't have enough experience of canvassing and persuading real people.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    AndyJS said:

    Labour may be sub-30% if the exit poll is right.

    Surely not. Wasn't 29% the worst result since before the war?
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Labour doing badly in East Lanarkshire where Labour MP Tom Clarke has a 50% majority.
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    Speedy said:

    Dair said:

    First negative comments Ive heard about SNP from Kirsty Wark in Edinburgh saying Labour think they can hold Edib South and Edin North and Leith.

    The second one sounds completely ridiculous. But it's Kirsty "I was on the committee which screwed up the Scottish Parliament then made the documentary that said it wasn't Labour's fault because I love Labour" Wark.

    Any Labour retainer in scotland would be a nail to an Exit Poll coffin.
    Wark is BBC London now so doesn't need the party backing for a BBC Scotland job.

    Might cost Clement/Wark some commissions if Scotland gets to control BBC Scotland though.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Peston is a cock.
  • alex.
    alex. Posts: 4,658
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_general_election,_1918
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Mr. 1000, why d'you say that?
  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287
    RobD said:

    AndyJS said:

    Labour may be sub-30% if the exit poll is right.

    Surely not. Wasn't 29% the worst result since before the war?
    27% in 1983
  • Bond_James_Bond
    Bond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    SouthamObserver said:

    No-one who was a Labour minister in the last Labour government should stand for the leadership. They are yesterday's news. Let Chukka, Liz and Dan battle it out. It's time for a new start.

    Can I just say Southam that my favourite post here on Thursday was one of yours.

    It was the one where you wrote movingly of the way people went out and cheerily voted, all mucking in together to make it work, and how this made you feel what a great country this was.

    And you then voted for change.
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited May 2015
    Some observations/expectations/thoughts:

    1. Hahahaha!

    2. The exit poll won't be exactly right. The figure which I think is most likely to be wrong by a fair margin is the LibDem one. I expect them to do better than 10, simply on personal vote in various constituencies.

    3. Blimey, Labour figures including Harman and Balls trying to spin these figures as leaving room for them to sneak into No 10 on the back of the SNP, Plaid, Uncle Tom Cobbley and all? Are they completely mad?

    4. If the exit poll is right, then I think I will be vindicated in my post earlier today that it's about differential turnout and differential enthusiasm. Who can be enthusiastic about Ed Miliband?

    5. UKIP might yet snaffle a Labour seat or two. The Sunderland figures were quite good for them.

    6. I did point out that it was very significant that the Tories were putting so much effort into LD-held seats.
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So will George Galloway be sending legal letters to everyone that didn't vote for him in Bradford?

    "you must have lied to my thug surrounded by 20 other thugs, you are guilty of lying and I want to sue" ???
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    antifrank said:

    I tipped the Conservatives in Nottingham South at 9/1 last year. I see the BBC are predicting that will happen.

    It would be astonishing if the Tories took Nottingham South. Just incredible.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    They just replayed the Farage quick chat..seems even worse the second time around
  • saddened
    saddened Posts: 2,245
    Farage making a prick of himself. Body language says he's lost.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    Gravitation said:

    RobD said:

    AndyJS said:

    Labour may be sub-30% if the exit poll is right.

    Surely not. Wasn't 29% the worst result since before the war?
    27% in 1983
    My mistake.
  • FalseFlag
    FalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    edited May 2015
    AndyJS said:

    Labour may be sub-30% if the exit poll is right.

    I suspect so, especially when you factor in Scotland.
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    edited May 2015
    Have we had a vote share and turnout projection yet?

    Edit - Yes just seen Lord A. :smile:
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/596451467596300288
  • Eh_ehm_a_eh
    Eh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    edited May 2015
    Nats will like this.
    Effie Deans
    ‏@Effiedeans
    To be clear my involvement with #SNPout has always been peripheral. I just help with tweets. The team deserves the credit #GE2015ill like this

  • Tim_B
    Tim_B Posts: 7,669
    First time I've seen Peston - he looks like a refugee from a Harry Potter film. If only he'd run into a pillar at Kings Cross at full speed.
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    The overall percentages could still be roughly as per the opinion polls. It is just that the Blue vote might just be much more efficient than before with Labour piling up votes in seats they already hold whilst UKIP will take votes from the Tories in alot of places where it does make a difference.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. 1000, why d'you say that?

    He is surely right that tomorrow will be a good day for the UK markets (which is good, as we're very overweight the UK).

    But Peston is still a cock.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 2 mins2 minutes ago

    On LBC, @LordAshcroft says his poll of 12,000 voters - Con 34%, Lab 31% - is inconsistent with the exit poll
  • notme
    notme Posts: 3,293
    Ive mentioned over and over on here, that the hyper con held labour marginal seats im involved in, one of them directly, one indirectly have shown *no* swing against conservatives in these north west seats.

    One seat under a thousand, and one seat under five hundred.

    Both seats are so narrow that we could still see them as losses, but what we were seeing in the polls was not reflected on the ground.

    No swing against the conservatives!
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    WOW

    Farage has lost. HIs ITV interview reaction and body language and language. He's GONE.
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/596451467596300288

    IMO, that could well be consistent with the exit polls' individual seat projections (Lab up in safe seats, down in marginals, Tories down a bit).
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Danny565 said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    No-one who was a Labour minister in the last Labour government should stand for the leadership. They are yesterday's news. Let Chukka, Liz and Dan battle it out. It's time for a new start.

    Really? I think if anything the opposite. One of the main problems imo with Ed is he didn't have ENOUGH experience on the political frontline. He had no idea how to communicate because he simply didn't have enough experience of canvassing and persuading real people.

    No, this is a final defeat for the Labour old guard. They are finished. Labour needs to start again.

  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/596451467596300288

    Is that a non exit poll exit poll like YouGov?

  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,459
    Slackbladder said:

    Farage seems very very grumpy

    How is his project to destroy the Tory party going?

    lol....
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Carswell: UKIP and Greens could get 5 million votes yet have 2-3 seats put together. Time for voting reform.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    @Dair - thanks for helping me re cars with megaphones - wish i had kept the models.
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Cambs Evening News exit poll has Greens third in Cambs - over Cons. Suggests tactical voting for Huppert for the blues.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    Dair said:

    WOW

    Farage has lost. HIs ITV interview reaction and body language and language. He's GONE.

    :D Looking forward to that declaration. As well as Balls'.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    ames Chapman (Mail) ‏@jameschappers 1 min1 minute ago

    Tory sources in Kingston & Surbiton believe Ed Davey is in 'real trouble' #GE2015
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Fenster said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    No-one who was a Labour minister in the last Labour government should stand for the leadership. They are yesterday's news. Let Chukka, Liz and Dan battle it out. It's time for a new start.

    Is Dan that handsome army bloke who comes across well on telly?

    If so, I agree - good choice.

    Yep, Dan Jarvis. The man with the perfect back story.

  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited May 2015
    Slackbladder said:

    Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 2 mins2 minutes ago

    On LBC, @LordAshcroft says his poll of 12,000 voters - Con 34%, Lab 31% - is inconsistent with the exit poll

    Maybe not. Scratch my last comment!
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @RealMattLucas: News coming in - not yet confirmed but VERY likely - that George Galloway is a dick.
  • ukelect
    ukelect Posts: 140
    Speedy said:

    ukelect said:

    Lots of percentages could cause exit poll results, e.g. Con 37, Lab 30, UKIP 16, LD 8

    It would need a Tory lead of about 9%.
    Depends how different the swings are in the seats that matter. Could be less than 7%.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Dair said:

    BBC Scotland - Gordon is comfortable for Alex Salnond.

    Lower score than Dave please is all.I ask
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    Slackbladder said:

    ames Chapman (Mail) ‏@jameschappers 1 min1 minute ago

    Tory sources in Kingston & Surbiton believe Ed Davey is in 'real trouble' #GE2015

    Marvellous news. I'm on this as well as Twickers as a long shot.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Andrew Comres, Opinium all had the Tories ahead, 1 ICM had the Tories on 39%, too many hedging their bets though
  • Flockers_pb
    Flockers_pb Posts: 204
    Southam, one of the key lessons from this is that Labour must not rely on inexperienced politicians to lead them. There is no doubting Labour's intentions - it is their competence that is in question. You don't solve that by accelerating the promotion of political juveniles. The Miliband brothers could have been contenders, but it looks as though both are burnt out of British politics in their early 40s. The fundamentals favoured the Tories here, and they will again if Labour turn to another lightweight.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Absurd that PC could have twice the number of seats as UKIP on 20x the vote
  • Bond_James_Bond
    Bond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    Dair said:

    WOW

    Farage has lost. HIs ITV interview reaction and body language and language. He's GONE.

    Fantastic if true
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    Scott_P said:

    Dair said:

    First negative comments Ive heard about SNP from Kirsty Wark in Edinburgh saying Labour think they can hold Edib South and Edin North and Leith.

    The second one sounds completely ridiculous. But it's Kirsty "I was on the committee which screwed up the Scottish Parliament then made the documentary that said it wasn't Labour's fault because I love Labour" Wark.

    Sarah (John's daughter) Smith saying the same thing
    You mean the John Smith? Didn;t know that !
  • heseltine
    heseltine Posts: 50
    Hearing Bustow in S&C is toast and Brake is in a dogfight...Huge UKIP votes being taken from LibDems in working class wards.
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Carswell on Sky talking about turning UKIP into an alternative to Labour in seats the Conservatives stand no chance [north of England, basically].
  • nigel4england
    nigel4england Posts: 4,800
    MarqueeMark said:

    Slackbladder said:

    Farage seems very very grumpy

    How is his project to destroy the Tory party going?

    lol....
    Badly.

    But his project to destroy the Labour Party is going very well.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited May 2015
    Slackbladder said:

    Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 2 mins2 minutes ago

    On LBC, @LordAshcroft says his poll of 12,000 voters - Con 34%, Lab 31% - is inconsistent with the exit poll

    If the Exit Poll is correct LordA has to resign from the polling industry, all of his constituency polls would have been massively wrong apart from Scotland.
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