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  • TOPPING
    TOPPING Posts: 44,060
    Ave_it said:

    Jack W said 302

    Ave it said 303!!

    Jack W +Ave it = coalition partners!!!

    HEY!!!

    I had 302!!!
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    yougov considerably different, Con 284, Lab 263 (see thread header)
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,728
    YouGov still think it is neck and neck.

    Somebody is going to look like a right tw@t come when the morning comes.
  • saddened
    saddened Posts: 2,245
    MikeK, about who would be laughing loudest, if this is remotely close to being correct it's me as I told you it would.
  • Theuniondivvie
    Theuniondivvie Posts: 44,327
    edited May 2015
    Fpt.

    End of the Union pier show if the exit poll is right.

    Also, it would blast out of the water any SLab narrative that voting SNP let the Tories in.
  • Cosmic
    Cosmic Posts: 34
    Let's not get too triumphant... shy kippers, shy Labour in Scotland etc...
  • SquareRoot
    SquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    based on this exit poll Mr Palmer might be making a donation to LUPUS UK.. but its too early to tell.
  • DaemonBarber
    DaemonBarber Posts: 1,626

    I don't dare look on my twitter timeline now!

    Oh gods... Just looked at mine.
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    Well, bugger me senseless.

    This is 1992 all over again.
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    edited May 2015
    Oh fuck. Wow. That is all.
  • currystar
    currystar Posts: 1,171
    AndyJS said:

    The polls for the last week have been a crock of shit if the exit poll is correct.

    It was a bank holiday week
  • Stereotomy
    Stereotomy Posts: 4,092
    Are these BBC seat numbers based on constituency polls or swing from the popular vote?
  • JonCisBack
    JonCisBack Posts: 911
    Which 10 LD seats are left?

    Farron, Laws, Lamb...?

    Actually feel sorry for them. just...wow
  • Floater
    Floater Posts: 14,207
    TOPPING said:

    Dear God

    FPT: Nick Robinson "it's still possible for Ed to form a govt"

    HOW?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    TOENAILS!!!!!!!
  • Y0kel
    Y0kel Posts: 2,307
    edited May 2015
    There is a lot of cigar smoke coming out from DUP headquarters right now....

    Ok lets say that this does over egg the Conservative seats a bit, a still sizeable gap to Labour does make it harder to go for the legitimate right to govern for Labour.

    But we will see. Whilst I can understand why the polls were wrong this does seem to the very highest end of Conservative expectations.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Understatement of the Night :smiley:
    AndyJS said:

    The polls for the last week have been a crock of shit if the exit poll is correct.

  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    This poll seems too good to be true...
  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    So EMWNBPM?
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    JackW said:

    Some fool said :

    Ed Miliband Will Never Be Prime Minister

    Find him .... :smile:

    A bit off on the SNP and Libdems( by 200%) though.....

    If anybody would like to check my prediction PB competition from 10 days ago or so you will find somebody who got those 2 much closer.... :smile:
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited May 2015
    AndyJS said:

    The polls for the last week have been a crock of shit if the exit poll is correct.

    All the polls since 2010 really.
    No poll predicted the complete collapse of the LD in favour of the Tories for 5 years now.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717

    rcs1000 said:

    God I hope the LDs get 11 seats.

    So do I as I followed you on it.
    I'm maxed out with every bookmaker, I have thousands of pounds riding on this. Please get an 11th seat!
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Wasn't there another exit poll due?
  • SquareRoot
    SquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    I said a month ago that I thought the pollsters were going to have egg on their faces, it just didn't feel right. We will soon know...
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    I don't believe this poll.

    But whilst we can please think of how Owen, polly and al are feeling right now.
  • glw
    glw Posts: 10,463
    This is even more shocking than the Lib Dem figure in the 2010 exit poll that nobody could believe.

    It's taken me 10 minutes just to take it in, and think of something other than swearing about it. :)
  • Tim_B
    Tim_B Posts: 7,669
    Perfect timing - As David Dimbleby opens his exit poll,the crawler along the bottom of the screen says "Captain Kidd's treasure found"
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658
    Whatever else, goodnight Ed. Scotland lost, LAB going backwards, what a fracking triumph.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670

    I don't believe this exit poll

    I would love e to know what constituencies make up the exit poll
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Gove - pollsters will have "SOPHISTICTED EXPLANATIONS"!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    According to the exit polls the last seat in Scotland is LABOUR not Lib Dem.
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    Absolutely ridiculous disparity between the two exit polls

    Except the Kipper two...
  • Monksfield
    Monksfield Posts: 2,905
    edited May 2015
    I'll take the yougov version. Surprised if it's not closer..
  • compouter2
    compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Has Yougov just said 34% each ?
  • TOPPING
    TOPPING Posts: 44,060
    TOPPING said:

    Ave_it said:

    Jack W said 302

    Ave it said 303!!

    Jack W +Ave it = coalition partners!!!

    HEY!!!

    I had 302!!!
    Sorry. I lie.

    I had 300 vs 255.

    I am a hopeless forecaster.

    (come on Harriet!!)
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    Harriet Harman has gone AWOL
  • Chris123
    Chris123 Posts: 174
    I'd like to take this opportunity to resubmit the prediction I made yesterday on this forum:

    I was predicting a Labour minority government but I've changed my mind in the last few days and think the election will result in a Conservative minority government. My reasoning is that opinion polls indicate the voters trust them more with the economy and prefer Cameron to Miliband. Another factor is that UKIP voters overwhelmingly indicate that they'd prefer to see a Conservative government and I expect many of them to vote tactically in the marginals. (They will still have the chance of voting for UKIP in the local elections.)

    Seats are more difficult to predict. I think Labour will be completely wiped out in Scotland and will struggle to get beyond 260 seats.

    The SNP will take all seats in Scotland save Shetland and Orkney which will go down to the wire.

    The Liberal Democrats will be down to less than 20 seats and in no mood to join another coalition.

    THE VALUE NOW IS ON CON MINORITY GOVERNMENT.
  • currystar
    currystar Posts: 1,171
    Will Nick still win?
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    JackW said:

    Some fool said :

    Ed Miliband Will Never Be Prime Minister

    Find him .... :smile:

    Praise be to JackW. *prays at feet*.
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    isam said:

    Absolutely ridiculous disparity between the two exit polls

    Except the Kipper two...

    YG isn't an exit poll
  • heseltine
    heseltine Posts: 50
    If the LD prediction is anywhere near right then this is just an unwind from the mid 90s
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    edited May 2015
    My fellow PB Tories, can I urge we have some humility.

    Please don't do an IOS, at least until we've got the first 300 results in.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670

    rcs1000 said:

    God I hope the LDs get 11 seats.

    So do I as I followed you on it.
    I backed 11-30!
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621
    Those two exit polls are as far apart as Natalie Bennett is from reality.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Arise Sir Rod.
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    The amazing thing is, even on the basis of the bombshell exit poll, Labour would still gain about 20 seats from the Tories. That shows the calamity of Scotland and, apparently, how beneficial to the Tories the LibDem collapse was.
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    God I hope the LDs get 11 seats.

    So do I as I followed you on it.
    I'm maxed out with every bookmaker, I have thousands of pounds riding on this. Please get an 11th seat!
    ...and don't get that 21st!!!
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    Sounds like we may get a reasonably early result from Swindon, as they have received training from Sunderland/Newcastle in how to count votes (BBC) :p
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited May 2015
    TUD Not at all, Cameron has made clear he would implement the Smith Commission Plans and Quebec nationalists won over 50 seats in the 1993 Canadian general election and Quebec still remains in Canada. Sturgeon has made clear she would only call a referendum in the short term if Brexit and Scotland votes In
  • MarkSenior
    MarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    2 very different exit polls so it is BBC v Yougov
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    IF 10 LDs - WHO will they be?
  • Kinga
    Kinga Posts: 59
    Is NP still an xMP?
  • oldpolitics
    oldpolitics Posts: 455

    isam said:

    Absolutely ridiculous disparity between the two exit polls

    Except the Kipper two...

    YG isn't an exit poll
    YouGov definitely did an exit poll, because I was polled... so if this isn't it, when are they releasing it?
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    Dair said:

    According to the exit polls the last seat in Scotland is LABOUR not Lib Dem.

    Wowzer if true
  • JonCisBack
    JonCisBack Posts: 911
    Morley

    and

    Outwood

    That is all
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658
    Thrasher cool and certain of his case.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Have a thought for OGH on the spread betting.....
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited May 2015

    Which 10 LD seats are left?

    Farron, Laws, Lamb...?

    Actually feel sorry for them. just...wow

    Carmichael probably one.
    The SNP are predicted on 58 seats, so that leaves 1.
  • Y0kel
    Y0kel Posts: 2,307
    A large slice of the variation here seems to be LD-Tory marginals.
  • MarkSenior
    MarkSenior Posts: 4,699

    isam said:

    Absolutely ridiculous disparity between the two exit polls

    Except the Kipper two...

    YG isn't an exit poll
    Yes it is
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609

    My fellow PB Tories, can I urge we have some humility.

    Please don't do an IOS, at least we've got the first 300 results in.

    Yep, must relax a little. Was very disheartened in recent days, so the exit poll was quite a shocker.
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    If the exit poll is true then Labour are in big trouble. JackW was right, Ed Miliband Will Never Be PM.

    Insane.
  • dobbin
    dobbin Posts: 28
    Indy ref-the Unionist grannies won it for NO
    GE- The English grannies won it for Dave

    Number Cruncher is plainly a genius!
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,728
    edited May 2015
    Gove must have been fed lots and lots of positive news and doesn't believe YouGov, because there was virtually zero caution in his opening salvo.

    If he is wrong, he will go do in history as badly as the BBC exit poll.

    Paddy says he will eat a hat if Lib Dem get anywhere near 10...will it be worth staying up for?
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Laws must be gone surely?

    Danny Alex gone
    Berwickshire gone
    Cable gone?
    Baker gone?
    Kennedy gone?

    I still think Lloyd has a chance - lots of voters seemed to name him today.

    Which 10 LD seats are left?

    Farron, Laws, Lamb...?

    Actually feel sorry for them. just...wow

  • Razedabode
    Razedabode Posts: 3,117
    Thasher sounds very confident
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Paddy Ashdown publicly says that he will eat his hat on the BBC if the exit poll is right.
  • Tim_B
    Tim_B Posts: 7,669
    What's the history of these beeb exit polls? Are they typically good indicators?
  • Dimitry
    Dimitry Posts: 49
    Can it really be EICIPM? Etonian Idol Cameron ........
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    SeanT UKIP swingback seems likely
  • compouter2
    compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Interesting night ahead
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    Surely the BBC could have told Nick Robinson to stay in bed.
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658

    2 very different exit polls so it is BBC v Yougov

    No, it is Profs Thrasher and Curtice vs YouGov. Nowt to do with BBC.

  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Thrasher, "a handful of Lab gains", 1% swing in England & Wales.
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    edited May 2015
    Michael Thrasher:

    1. SNP have stormed through
    2. Collapse of LD's. Across the board regardless of incumbency
    3. Crucial part is that in E&W Labour have not really made inroads into the Cons vote share and not destined to make many seats: just a handful. 1% swing from Con to Lab in E&W

    Labour over-estimated in polls and Cons under-estimated.
  • macisback
    macisback Posts: 382
    currystar said:

    Will Nick still win?

    Doubt it, for all the bragging he always knew he was in trouble.

  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @rowenamason: Lord Ashdown: "If this exit poll is right, I will publicly eat my hat."

    Oh, please, please, please...
  • heseltine
    heseltine Posts: 50
    Plato said:

    Laws must be gone surely?

    Danny Alex gone
    Berwickshire gone
    Cable gone?
    Baker gone?
    Kennedy gone?

    I still think Lloyd has a chance - lots of voters seemed to name him today.

    Which 10 LD seats are left?

    Farron, Laws, Lamb...?

    Actually feel sorry for them. just...wow

    Mulholland,possibly Brake,Herbert
  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    Will the UK opinion polling industry still be alive at 5am?
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    Ok Yougov's poll is much less dramatic. That looks much more likely to be coalition mkII
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Just too good to be true I think. SNP won't get 58, and I still think UKIP will get more than 2. Think the Greens will just have Lucas.
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658
    Thrasher: Lab have not done well in marginals
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    Even if Yougov is correct, those are still a lo better for the Tories than most polls indicated.
  • Eh_ehm_a_eh
    Eh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Dair said:

    According to the exit polls the last seat in Scotland is LABOUR not Lib Dem.

    Giggle.

  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Morley

    and

    Outwood

    That is all

    Some Labour seats must be on the line tonight...
  • Millsy
    Millsy Posts: 900
    Afraid I don't believe it - but it is 20k+ people interviewed after voting!
  • Floater
    Floater Posts: 14,207
    "cannot rule out a tory majority" Kin ell
  • JGC
    JGC Posts: 64
    If I were John Curtice, Stephen Fisher et al I would be very nervous, they might be right but unless populus backs them up every pollster and all the parties think they are wrong. It will be a very embarrassing episode for someone
  • MarkHopkins
    MarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    So which Scottish seat won't be SNP?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    Dimitry said:

    Can it really be EICIPM? Etonian Idol Cameron ........

    Electorally indestructible Cameron? Titter....
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,728
    I still urge a lot of caution. I get the feeling so so many seats will be on an absolute knife edge and so it could easily swing many many seats.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Laura Pitel ‏@laurapitel 5 mins5 minutes ago

    Ukip source says party organisers in Ed Balls's seat (Morley and Outwood) are convinced the Tories are going to take it.

    oh please please please please......
  • Ave_it
    Ave_it Posts: 2,411
    CON gain Sunderland and Houghton?
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    Watching BBC News, STV Player and BBC Scotland iPlayer and trying to follow this site is already giving me a headache.
  • Roger
    Roger Posts: 20,744
    Who did the first exit poll?
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    Paddy is getting upset. Whilst I do think the exit poll might not be spot on, it is a poll of people who have actually voted.
  • saddened
    saddened Posts: 2,245
    All I care about are reckless balls and cable. If they are all out it will make my year.
  • Stereotomy
    Stereotomy Posts: 4,092
    SeanT said:

    Is the YouGov exit poll the same enormous size as the Beeb's? 22,000??

    6000
  • Ghedebrav
    Ghedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Staggering. But I can't just sit around watching idle speculation for the next five or six hours. I'm off to bed for a bit.
  • heseltine
    heseltine Posts: 50
    Y0kel said:

    A large slice of the variation here seems to be LD-Tory marginals.

    Davey to lose by over 4000
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited May 2015
    RodCrosby said:

    Thrasher, "a handful of Lab gains", 1% swing in England & Wales.

    That would mean the Tories have a lead of 9% in votes nationwide!
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