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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,485
    viewcode said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    New article from John Gray in the New Statesman.

    "The downfall of the Oxbridge don
    British academic life was not prepared for the shocks of student protests and Thatcherism
    By John Gray" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/book-of-the-day/2026/07/the-downfall-of-the-oxbridge-don

    A book has just been published on it I am reading

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Twilight-Dons-British-Intellectuals-Thatcherism/dp/0691188769
    Interesting. Is it any good?
    Yes but only done the first chapter so far, including the period when dons had to be celibate and unmarried
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,189
    HYUFD said:

    viewcode said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    New article from John Gray in the New Statesman.

    "The downfall of the Oxbridge don
    British academic life was not prepared for the shocks of student protests and Thatcherism
    By John Gray" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/book-of-the-day/2026/07/the-downfall-of-the-oxbridge-don

    A book has just been published on it I am reading

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Twilight-Dons-British-Intellectuals-Thatcherism/dp/0691188769
    Interesting. Is it any good?
    Yes but only done the first chapter so far, including the period when dons had to be celibate and unmarried
    Well, there's a hook... :)
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,829
    edited 1:31AM
    I don't know what the flowers are in the picture at the top of the page, but they're very nice.
  • AndypetsAndypets Posts: 14
    Andy_JS said:

    I don't know what the flowers are in the picture at the top of the page, but they're very nice.

    Vanilla

  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057
    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057
    edited 4:13AM
    Japan's pension pivot puts Abe-era outpouring of capital in reverse
    ...
    On Friday, Japanese Finance Minister Satsuki Katayama ​floated an idea to encourage the $1.8 trillion Government Pension Investment Fund (GPIF) and other retirement vehicles to increase their holdings of domestic assets.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/takaichis-pension-pivot-seeks-reverse-abe-era-outpouring-japanese-capital-2026-07-10/ (£££)

    Rachel Reeves has similarly been trying to encourage savings here, although if she (or her successor) is not careful, it will just mean more invested in US stocks rather than British shares.

    These sorts of move might also increase pressure on government bonds which is not necessarily good news.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,933
    Andypets said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I don't know what the flowers are in the picture at the top of the page, but they're very nice.

    Vanilla

    Vanilla, if I haven't got this wrong, is one of the only exploited orchids
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,974
    The man arrested on suspicion of murder has been released.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,484
    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Ann Widdecombe's neighbour claims man in hiking clothes appeared in middle of the night'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2227926/ann-widdecombe-neighbour-claims-hiking-gear-man-visited

    I'm currently on holiday but fel obliged to comment on Ann Widdicombe.

    It is entirely possible to disagree with just about everything that someone says an believes in, yet to have the utmost respect for them.

    Ann was a complete one - off.

    She was utterly transparent, what you saw was what you got.

    Her death in this way was a tragedy.

    It would be a small crumb of comfort to find out that it was perpetrated by whoever on grounds that were nothing at all to do with Politics. That seems probably the case.

    She lived in an area of great beauty and almost complete isolation.

    She should be remembered fondly as a genuine person the like of which we will not see again.

    Very good post. I think this shows you can fundamentally disagree with people’s politics and world view but can have respect for them . This reminds me a bit of what I’d call the old timers in the Commons who were for years pro Brexit even when it wasn’t fashionable. Whilst totally disagreeing with them on that I still respect that it was their principled position as opposed to some who jumped on the bandwagon for their political ambitions . No one deserves such a horrible fate that happened to poor Ann Widdecombe . It would seem very strange if this had a political motive as she wasn’t a high profile politician anymore .
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,432
    nico67 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Ann Widdecombe's neighbour claims man in hiking clothes appeared in middle of the night'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2227926/ann-widdecombe-neighbour-claims-hiking-gear-man-visited

    I'm currently on holiday but fel obliged to comment on Ann Widdicombe.

    It is entirely possible to disagree with just about everything that someone says an believes in, yet to have the utmost respect for them.

    Ann was a complete one - off.

    She was utterly transparent, what you saw was what you got.

    Her death in this way was a tragedy.

    It would be a small crumb of comfort to find out that it was perpetrated by whoever on grounds that were nothing at all to do with Politics. That seems probably the case.

    She lived in an area of great beauty and almost complete isolation.

    She should be remembered fondly as a genuine person the like of which we will not see again.

    Very good post. I think this shows you can fundamentally disagree with people’s politics and world view but can have respect for them . This reminds me a bit of what I’d call the old timers in the Commons who were for years pro 2Brexit even when it wasn’t fashionable. Whilst totally disagreeing with them on that I still respect that it was their2 èprincipled position as opposed to some who jumped on the bandwagon for their political ambitions . No one deserves such a horrible fate that happened to poor Ann Widdecombe . It would seem very strange if this had a political motive as she wasn’t a high profile politician anymore .
    Indeed, her politics were awful, however no one deserves to meet their maker on account of their politics which is why Tatchel's intervention was so unwelcome. It will be interesting to see whether Farage uses the tragedy to toxify the well.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,583

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    Looks like some dodgy penalties for England tonight then.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,583
    tlg86 said:

    The man arrested on suspicion of murder has been released.

    Well...whatever that is, it's not good. The Blue Ticks have gone into overdrive.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379
    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Ann Widdecombe's neighbour claims man in hiking clothes appeared in middle of the night'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2227926/ann-widdecombe-neighbour-claims-hiking-gear-man-visited

    I'm currently on holiday but fel obliged to comment on Ann Widdicombe.

    It is entirely possible to disagree with just about everything that someone says an believes in, yet to have the utmost respect for them.

    Ann was a complete one - off.

    She was utterly transparent, what you saw was what you got.

    Her death in this way was a tragedy.

    It would be a small crumb of comfort to find out that it was perpetrated by whoever on grounds that were nothing at all to do with Politics. That seems probably the case.

    She lived in an area of great beauty and almost complete isolation.

    She should be remembered fondly as a genuine person the like of which we will not see again.

    Well said, and good that most people are willing to say the same regardless of political affiliation. Sadly not all people, but definitely most.

    Sadly I logged off yesterday thinking that Miss Widdecome had succumbed to an illness, unaware that she had been murdered.

    She may have had a high-profile career as a public servant, but in retirement she was quite literally the little old lady you know from church.

    We don’t yet know the motive, perhaps it was a house robbery gone wrong rather than a targeted killing or politically motivated, but it seems unfathomable why someone would want to murder that little old lady.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,016

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,840
    Eabhal said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    Looks like some dodgy penalties for England tonight then.
    Or at least some risk-free double-footed fouls...
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,944
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,016
    edited 6:44AM

    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
    As I say, I'll believe it when I see it, and that's not from footage of somebody placing balls in front of him for him to play.

    My grandfather at 86 could play a par 73 course in 90 shots, walking, playing as it lay. *That's* somebody who was a good player for his age. I see no evidence Trump is even in the same parish.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,709
    Dura_Ace said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I hate to indulge in the trivial when the murder of Ann Widdecombe is still fresh, but I need to moan about a film. IMHO, there are/were three perfect films: Alien, Manhunter, Apocalypse Now. Recently they have been disfigured by "director's cuts": Alien has a variant (not too bad but entirely unnecessary and worse than the original) and Apocalypse Now was ruined by the "Final Cut" (it's just rubbish). Now Michael Mann did the Final Cut for Manhunter and the 4k version is now out, being rereleased in September. The person in the back row silently weeping salty tears will be me. Why can't they leave well enough alone?

    I haven't seen the other two, but Manhunter (1986) is very close to being THE perfect film. Never get tired of watching it.
    I can't think of a film to rival it in the serial killer genre. Unless you count Don't Look Now.
    Holy Spider and Memories of a Murder are both better. IMO.
    Agreed on both Memories of Murder* (for those who haven't seen it, the director and lead were Oscar winners for Parasite), and the lack of Mondial hate.

    *Based on S Korea's most notorious serial murder case, which their directors are obsessed with.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,709
    edited 6:52AM
    nico67 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Ann Widdecombe's neighbour claims man in hiking clothes appeared in middle of the night'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2227926/ann-widdecombe-neighbour-claims-hiking-gear-man-visited

    I'm currently on holiday but fel obliged to comment on Ann Widdicombe.

    It is entirely possible to disagree with just about everything that someone says an believes in, yet to have the utmost respect for them.

    Ann was a complete one - off.

    She was utterly transparent, what you saw was what you got.

    Her death in this way was a tragedy.

    It would be a small crumb of comfort to find out that it was perpetrated by whoever on grounds that were nothing at all to do with Politics. That seems probably the case.

    She lived in an area of great beauty and almost complete isolation.

    She should be remembered fondly as a genuine person the like of which we will not see again.

    Very good post. I think this shows you can fundamentally disagree with people’s politics and world view but can have respect for them . This reminds me a bit of what I’d call the old timers in the Commons who were for years pro Brexit even when it wasn’t fashionable. Whilst totally disagreeing with them on that I still respect that it was their principled position as opposed to some who jumped on the bandwagon for their political ambitions . No one deserves such a horrible fate that happened to poor Ann Widdecombe . It would seem very strange if this had a political motive as she wasn’t a high profile politician anymore .
    I'd guess Crick didn't have much time for her politics either.

    https://x.com/MichaelLCrick/status/2075728021328159119
    A former BBC colleague says:
    "Of the hundreds of high profile politicians I dealt with as a floor manager Ann stood out as one who was unfailingly sweet and personable. In those high pressure moments of appearing on Newsnight to be interviewed by Jeremy, it was unremarkable if MPs were terse or barely noticed you were there, but she was a pleasure to bring into the studio, lovely to deal with.
    What absolute horror."


  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057
    Clacton betting:-

    Reform is a best-priced 1/7 with Hills. Count Binface backers can get 15/2 from Starsports, AK Bets and Betfair exchange.
    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/clacton-by-election
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,771
    edited 6:55AM
    Nigelb said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I hate to indulge in the trivial when the murder of Ann Widdecombe is still fresh, but I need to moan about a film. IMHO, there are/were three perfect films: Alien, Manhunter, Apocalypse Now. Recently they have been disfigured by "director's cuts": Alien has a variant (not too bad but entirely unnecessary and worse than the original) and Apocalypse Now was ruined by the "Final Cut" (it's just rubbish). Now Michael Mann did the Final Cut for Manhunter and the 4k version is now out, being rereleased in September. The person in the back row silently weeping salty tears will be me. Why can't they leave well enough alone?

    I haven't seen the other two, but Manhunter (1986) is very close to being THE perfect film. Never get tired of watching it.
    I can't think of a film to rival it in the serial killer genre. Unless you count Don't Look Now.
    Holy Spider and Memories of a Murder are both better. IMO.
    Agreed on both Memories of Murder* (for those who haven't seen it, the director and lead were Oscar winners for Parasite), and the lack of Mondial hate.

    *Based on S Korea's most notorious serial murder case, which their directors are obsessed with.
    It's not quite the same thing because the killer isn't serial but the Argentinian film, El secreto de sus ojos is an excellent treatment of similar themes.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,016

    Clacton betting:-

    Reform is a best-priced 1/7 with Hills. Count Binface backers can get 15/2 from Starsports, AK Bets and Betfair exchange.
    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/clacton-by-election

    Ridiculous odds for Reform. They're surely value at that price given they must be 1/20 in the real world.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,709
    Nigelb said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I hate to indulge in the trivial when the murder of Ann Widdecombe is still fresh, but I need to moan about a film. IMHO, there are/were three perfect films: Alien, Manhunter, Apocalypse Now. Recently they have been disfigured by "director's cuts": Alien has a variant (not too bad but entirely unnecessary and worse than the original) and Apocalypse Now was ruined by the "Final Cut" (it's just rubbish). Now Michael Mann did the Final Cut for Manhunter and the 4k version is now out, being rereleased in September. The person in the back row silently weeping salty tears will be me. Why can't they leave well enough alone?

    I haven't seen the other two, but Manhunter (1986) is very close to being THE perfect film. Never get tired of watching it.
    I can't think of a film to rival it in the serial killer genre. Unless you count Don't Look Now.
    Holy Spider and Memories of a Murder are both better. IMO.
    Agreed on both Memories of Murder* (for those who haven't seen it, the director and lead were Oscar winners for Parasite), and the lack of Mondial hate.

    *Based on S Korea's most notorious serial murder case, which their directors are obsessed with.
    Actually I misremembered.
    Song Kang-ho has never won an Oscar, which is a travesty.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,376
    Andypets said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I don't know what the flowers are in the picture at the top of the page, but they're very nice.

    Vanilla

    Vanilla pods for sure but the flowers and leaves are cherry I'd guess.

    Nice photo nonetheless.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,769
    Sandpit said:

    On topic Robert @rcs1000 hit me up if you need a hand with anything, data setup, QA etc. I have a fair bit of time on my hands for the next few weeks.

    Thanks @Sandpit, I may well take you up on that
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,432
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
    As I say, I'll believe it when I see it, and that's not from footage of somebody placing balls in front of him for him to play.

    My grandfather at 86 could play a par 73 course in 90 shots, walking, playing as it lay. *That's* somebody who was a good player for his age. I see no evidence Trump is even in the same parish.
    Newent?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,016

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
    As I say, I'll believe it when I see it, and that's not from footage of somebody placing balls in front of him for him to play.

    My grandfather at 86 could play a par 73 course in 90 shots, walking, playing as it lay. *That's* somebody who was a good player for his age. I see no evidence Trump is even in the same parish.
    Newent?
    Ross. Newent was a 9 hole par 36.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,709
    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,775
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is good but he’s not a patch on Kim Jong Ils abilities. Eleven holes in one on his first ever round. He stopped playing to give others a chance…
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,774
    I've had my breakfast outdoors this morning. And I have to say that it is a bit on the chilly side.

    Wonderful.

    The trouble is that the cool air that has now had the chance to enter the house will get heated up by the fabric of the building.

    But the forecast is *only* 27C here today, so we shouldn't get a repeat of the 28.9C we had in the living room yesterday.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057
    ydoethur said:

    Clacton betting:-

    Reform is a best-priced 1/7 with Hills. Count Binface backers can get 15/2 from Starsports, AK Bets and Betfair exchange.
    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/clacton-by-election

    Ridiculous odds for Reform. They're surely value at that price given they must be 1/20 in the real world.
    Bookies might be running scared after a few shrewdies backed Count Binface at 3-figure prices before it became evident the major parties were not taking part.

    Betfair's history shows £3 was traded at 1,000 on Count Binface, with £200 at 60.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057

    I've had my breakfast outdoors this morning. And I have to say that it is a bit on the chilly side.

    Wonderful.

    The trouble is that the cool air that has now had the chance to enter the house will get heated up by the fabric of the building.

    But the forecast is *only* 27C here today, so we shouldn't get a repeat of the 28.9C we had in the living room yesterday.

    A bit more breeze here too, but 30°C inside.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,236
    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    On topic Robert @rcs1000 hit me up if you need a hand with anything, data setup, QA etc. I have a fair bit of time on my hands for the next few weeks.

    Thanks @Sandpit, I may well take you up on that
    No worries, I’ll give myself a Wordpress refresher course in the meantime!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,016

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    Florida?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,840

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,083
    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379
    Interesting development. Apparently China is weighing in on the war in Ukraine, telling the Russians in no uncertain terms to step away from the nuclear button, after a bunch of crazy comments from Lavrov and other Russian officials in recent weeks.

    https://x.com/katerynalis/status/2075383772837486666
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,236

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,211
    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,016
    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    I've no time at all for Mitch McConnell, for all sorts of reasons, but he's still a long serving and senior Senator. He deserves a great deal better than the politicking he's getting from all sides at the moment, whatever the truth of the matter.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,631
    Sandpit said:

    Interesting development. Apparently China is weighing in on the war in Ukraine, telling the Russians in no uncertain terms to step away from the nuclear button, after a bunch of crazy comments from Lavrov and other Russian officials in recent weeks.

    https://x.com/katerynalis/status/2075383772837486666

    Yes - that’s the one thing the Americans have consistently asked them to do throughout the war and they have agreed. It’s not the first time they have quietly pointed out to Putin that a nuclear attack would not end well for him
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,211
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    I've no time at all for Mitch McConnell, for all sorts of reasons, but he's still a long serving and senior Senator. He deserves a great deal better than the politicking he's getting from all sides at the moment, whatever the truth of the matter.
    This is very different to Widdecombe/Tatchell.

    Nothing's been announced and people speculate in the vacuum. Plus there's the undercurrent that it actually seems viable they'd pull a Weekend at Mitch's stunt if they could - and its what he would have wanted.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,016
    edited 7:54AM

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    I've no time at all for Mitch McConnell, for all sorts of reasons, but he's still a long serving and senior Senator. He deserves a great deal better than the politicking he's getting from all sides at the moment, whatever the truth of the matter.
    This is very different to Widdecombe/Tatchell.

    Nothing's been announced and people speculate in the vacuum. Plus there's the undercurrent that it actually seems viable they'd pull a Weekend at Mitch's stunt if they could - and its what he would have wanted.
    There is some difference, but don't you find it a bit unedifying to speculate on how ill/dead someone in hospital is?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,236
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    I've no time at all for Mitch McConnell, for all sorts of reasons, but he's still a long serving and senior Senator. He deserves a great deal better than the politicking he's getting from all sides at the moment, whatever the truth of the matter.
    Given the apparent state he is in, it’s unlikely that the situation is being caused by McConnell himself.

    The politicking is coming from those around him.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,236

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    I (half) wrote a scraper that would automatically go through the comments, going back to before vanilla, and save them into a NoSql DB.

    It’s not very difficult in the age of Claude.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,834
    Sandpit said:

    Interesting development. Apparently China is weighing in on the war in Ukraine, telling the Russians in no uncertain terms to step away from the nuclear button, after a bunch of crazy comments from Lavrov and other Russian officials in recent weeks.

    https://x.com/katerynalis/status/2075383772837486666

    Yes, that reportedly happened earlier in the war too. China undoubtedly believes that the day Russia uses a nuke in support of a war of conquest against a non-nuclear country is the day that Taiwan, South Korea and Japan acquire nuclear weapons, and they really don't want that.

    And Russia also knows what a hole it will be in without Chinese support.
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,880
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,709
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    I've no time at all for Mitch McConnell, for all sorts of reasons, but he's still a long serving and senior Senator. He deserves a great deal better than the politicking he's getting from all sides at the moment, whatever the truth of the matter.
    If he were looking down on all this, he'd likely be nodding with approval at the political shithousery.

    In any event, his wife is unconcerned.

    https://www.livenowfox.com/news/mitch-mcconnells-hospital-latest-wife-releases-statement.amp
    ..According to WLKY, McConnell’s wife, former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, was in China when McConnell was first hospitalized. She released the following statement on Wednesday:

    "The secretary was on a long-planned trip in China to support her family's philanthropic endeavors. During the trip, she met with a number of people, including the US ambassador. The Senator's health did not warrant an immediate return to the US."..
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,769
    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    Nitpicking... speaking 'to' someone is slightly different to speaking 'with' someone.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    I've no time at all for Mitch McConnell, for all sorts of reasons, but he's still a long serving and senior Senator. He deserves a great deal better than the politicking he's getting from all sides at the moment, whatever the truth of the matter.
    This is very different to Widdecombe/Tatchell.

    Nothing's been announced and people speculate in the vacuum. Plus there's the undercurrent that it actually seems viable they'd pull a Weekend at Mitch's stunt if they could - and its what he would have wanted.
    There is some difference, but don't you find it a bit unedifying to speculate on how ill/dead someone in hospital is?
    The conspiracy theory is that he’s being kept alive, or his death concealed, to avoid a by-election, the deadline for which is in a couple of weeks’ time.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,769
    Sandpit said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    I've no time at all for Mitch McConnell, for all sorts of reasons, but he's still a long serving and senior Senator. He deserves a great deal better than the politicking he's getting from all sides at the moment, whatever the truth of the matter.
    This is very different to Widdecombe/Tatchell.

    Nothing's been announced and people speculate in the vacuum. Plus there's the undercurrent that it actually seems viable they'd pull a Weekend at Mitch's stunt if they could - and its what he would have wanted.
    There is some difference, but don't you find it a bit unedifying to speculate on how ill/dead someone in hospital is?
    The conspiracy theory is that he’s being kept alive, or his death concealed, to avoid a by-election, the deadline for which is in a couple of weeks’ time.
    Fortunately, quite a few people have spoken to him, so we know he's alive:


  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,432
    edited 8:17AM
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
    As I say, I'll believe it when I see it, and that's not from footage of somebody placing balls in front of him for him to play.

    My grandfather at 86 could play a par 73 course in 90 shots, walking, playing as it lay. *That's* somebody who was a good player for his age. I see no evidence Trump is even in the same parish.
    Newent?
    Ross. Newent was a 9 hole par 36.
    Never played either. I bought a particular brand of golf shoes for the wife which were stocked at Newent around 35 years ago.

    When we arrived in Ledbury I played Malvern quite a bit. I was always nervous of the fairway that ran parallel with the car park full of new Rovers and Jags.

    My dad played Burghill every weekday for years. It was a nice up and down course but a fair old trek from Cradley. Mind you I played Cleeve Hill a lot which was even further and the wrong side of the Hills!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,769
    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    On topic Robert @rcs1000 hit me up if you need a hand with anything, data setup, QA etc. I have a fair bit of time on my hands for the next few weeks.

    Thanks @Sandpit, I may well take you up on that
    No worries, I’ll give myself a Wordpress refresher course in the meantime!
    In these days of Claude (and Claude Code), this stuff becomes so much easier.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,709
    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    Not just Jennings.

    ..A spokesperson for Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., said he had spoken with McConnell by phone on Monday and that the two had a "lengthy and substantive conversation that covered a variety of topics, including national security."..

    ..Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso, the No. 2 Senate Republican, had a 20-minute conversation with McConnell on Tuesday, according to a spokeswoman. The two discussed Senate races ahead of the midterm elections, the Supreme Court and other topics, the statement said..
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379
    edited 8:15AM
    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
    That looks relatively straightforward, a MySQL file with almost the entire DB of users and comments. Wordpress will hopefully have a similar import facility (or Claude can write one relatively quickly) to move everything over.

    A wry smile that the standard export also includes private DMs.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,769
    Sandpit said:

    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
    That looks relatively straightforward, a MySQL file with almost the entire DB of users and comments.

    A wry smile that the standard export also includes private DMs.
    A reminder that lots of things you might think are private, are not actually private.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,961
    linto said:

    FF43 said:

    FF43 said:

    FF43 said:

    Whilst waiting for the Sinner-Zverev game to start we can look forward to this:


    Dan Neidle
    @DanNeidle

    Andy Burnham's backed a land value tax for 16 years. This Sunday we'll be publishing an analysis of how an LVT would work in practice.

    Plus a model that lets you design an LVT and answer the key questions: Who'd win? Who'd lose? And the big question: can it be done at all?

    https://x.com/DanNeidle/status/2075615378621780313

    Land Value Tax feels like a solution looking for a problem, where you could get 80% of the good juice with some basic reforms of the property rating system.

    Not an expert though.
    My suggestions would be
    1. Rates based on typical (not actually charged) rents for that type of property: encourages adding value to the property as you wouldn't pay higher rates. Discourages deliberately reducing rents to gain lower rates.
    2. Rates paid by property owners, not renters. Encourages realistic rents as these now include taxes. Particular issue for pubs.
    3. Some relief possible for empty properties, but temporary and not 100%: encourages exploitation and discourages landowners from sitting on property and/or expecting unrealistic rents.
    You are clearly an accountant, or someone who thinks accountants deserve to make money.

    0.49% on all land regardless of use, no exceptions, no reliefs
    My ideas are half arsed, but vaguely thinking of how a surveyor might get a ballpark value or rental figure without visiting the property or considering the condition, using an online calculator. ie type of property, location, square metres etc. No accountants, and importantly, no revaluations required.

    Whatever property tax we come up with needs to be easy to calculate, collect, be able to raise large sums and be affordable.

    A part of my prejudice against LVT is that I think there is a much better case in principle for abolishing private land ownership entirely. Land could be a public good, owned by the collective or state, which leases out exploitation rights on long leases. LVT seems neither one thing or the other.

    0.49% of what?
    Isn't the key to this that is a slow burner. Keep people on the existing system until they move then they can make an educated decision. To make it even better allow councils to vary it by a small percentage +/-0.02% so they can actually do stuff other than pay for old people's arses to be wiped and kids to be kept in private equity care homes.
    I think this debate is somewhat like the planning for HS2. The most important point is perhaps to make a start.

    I think the questions about "but how do we revalue it all" or "what are they are worth" are non-questions, as long as we are basing it on market value of property. I think an LVT valuation is tricky because we are basing it around guesses around what a piece of 'land' WOULD be worth under certain imagined conditions.

    We have sufficiently comprehensive databases already, in public hands and in private hands, to do the job of straight valuation. So I would start there, at pace, and want something in place to be the basis of a revised system to be used in FY 28-29,

    I think part of the solution to PE is to incentivise locally managed voluntary institutions. That will have copmplexities, though, as PE and others try to avoid the system.

    We already have part of the model under what I think is the only value based annual property levy we use - George Osborne's ATED * levy.

    * Annual Tax on Enveloped Dwellings - approx 0.5% to 1.25% of value, banded by property value from £500k, exemption for commercial rent for example). In practice aiui this is mainly a Central London tax on residencies owned by rich internationals, which does not raise massive amounts.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,771
    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,961
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
    That looks relatively straightforward, a MySQL file with almost the entire DB of users and comments.

    A wry smile that the standard export also includes private DMs.
    A reminder that lots of things you might think are private, are not actually private.
    That's the old "never say anything you can't take being put on the front page of the Mail" principle.

    Which works, except that the Mail will rewrite it and lie about you.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,432
    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    Not just Jennings.

    ..A spokesperson for Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., said he had spoken with McConnell by phone on Monday and that the two had a "lengthy and substantive conversation that covered a variety of topics, including national security."..

    ..Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso, the No. 2 Senate Republican, had a 20-minute conversation with McConnell on Tuesday, according to a spokeswoman. The two discussed Senate races ahead of the midterm elections, the Supreme Court and other topics, the statement said..
    Alexa, define a load of bollocks.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,769
    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Well, if Jacques Derrida said it, then it must be true.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,534
    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    Not just Jennings.

    ..A spokesperson for Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., said he had spoken with McConnell by phone on Monday and that the two had a "lengthy and substantive conversation that covered a variety of topics, including national security."..

    ..Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso, the No. 2 Senate Republican, had a 20-minute conversation with McConnell on Tuesday, according to a spokeswoman. The two discussed Senate races ahead of the midterm elections, the Supreme Court and other topics, the statement said..
    So, he can have lengthy conversations with Republican colleagues, but not with one political journalist?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,454
    Now not getting in on the main site. Has the transfer begun? Had to log in here too.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,961
    edited 8:24AM

    I've had my breakfast outdoors this morning. And I have to say that it is a bit on the chilly side.

    Wonderful.

    The trouble is that the cool air that has now had the chance to enter the house will get heated up by the fabric of the building.

    But the forecast is *only* 27C here today, so we shouldn't get a repeat of the 28.9C we had in the living room yesterday.

    It was nice and cool here last night, but very hot inside - the cross-ventilation dropped my house's internal temperature by about 4C. Max temperature here is forecast to be 27C. This place has a decrement delay of about 6-8 hours, so from here it would become uncomfortable by mid-late afternoon when the coolth has retreated and it was headed for 31-32C or more outside.

    (I don't like it over about 26C inside).
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379
    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    Not just Jennings.

    ..A spokesperson for Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., said he had spoken with McConnell by phone on Monday and that the two had a "lengthy and substantive conversation that covered a variety of topics, including national security."..

    ..Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso, the No. 2 Senate Republican, had a 20-minute conversation with McConnell on Tuesday, according to a spokeswoman. The two discussed Senate races ahead of the midterm elections, the Supreme Court and other topics, the statement said..
    Perhaps the funniest one was CNN quoting Rep. Jack Kimble.

    https://x.com/repjackkimble/status/2074850901571891406

    There is no Rep. Kimble, it’s a parody account.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,454
    rcs1000 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Well, if Jacques Derrida said it, then it must be true.
    Presumably neither of them have any problem with what the European Court of Human Rights has done to the Convention. Not sure I agree with them either.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,211
    MattW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
    That looks relatively straightforward, a MySQL file with almost the entire DB of users and comments.

    A wry smile that the standard export also includes private DMs.
    A reminder that lots of things you might think are private, are not actually private.
    That's the old "never say anything you can't take being put on the front page of the Mail" principle.

    Which works, except that the Mail will rewrite it and lie about you.
    Never put in writing anything that you would not want to see be used as "Exhibit A" against you.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,211
    If it does not include Reform and Greens it is not truly representative of all loonies.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,284

    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    Not just Jennings.

    ..A spokesperson for Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., said he had spoken with McConnell by phone on Monday and that the two had a "lengthy and substantive conversation that covered a variety of topics, including national security."..

    ..Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso, the No. 2 Senate Republican, had a 20-minute conversation with McConnell on Tuesday, according to a spokeswoman. The two discussed Senate races ahead of the midterm elections, the Supreme Court and other topics, the statement said..
    So, he can have lengthy conversations with Republican colleagues, but not with one political journalist?
    He's a very poorly man. If you were in that state, would you rather have lots of conversations with Republican politicians or with journalists?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379
    edited 8:34AM
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    I didn't understand a single word of that, which is why I'm helping the process by not offering my services.
    It’s simple enough, a database is basically a big fancy spreadsheet, with many sheets and many references between them.

    The more difficult thing to do, having imported all of the users and comments, is testing stuff like a new user signing up doesn’t have an ID of 1, but has an ID higher than all of the existing users, and that a new user’s name is checked against all of the imported users, not just users created using the Wordpress interface.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,834
    The received wisdom would suggest they're going to need to extend the y-axis on that graph for Clacton. And it shows that even saving their deposit would be an exceptional result for Binface.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,236

    “I'm funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh?"
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,555
    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Does seem somewhat OTT to preserve dialogues whose original purpose is lost in time and subject to reinterpretation, probably incorrectly. The bonus being there is little additional work.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,432
    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Yes, I sort of agree. The body of work of each PBer (esp the deeper ones) can take on new and different meanings as the world in which it resides evolves. I'd give an example but I don't think what I'm talking about can be illustrated in that way.

    Point is, the PB posting history should be thought of as a living thing - and thus a terrible thing to lose.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,709
    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    How is one to reinterpret if one doe not preserve ?

    And lest you say we must rely on memory, consider also Borge's Funes el memorioso.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,193

    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
    If it doesn’t already, then the entire internet is composed of slackers.
    There’s plenty of memes already. When Scott Jennings said he’d spoken to McConnell for 20 minutes, about 500 other accounts posted almost exactly the same.
    Not just Jennings.

    ..A spokesperson for Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., said he had spoken with McConnell by phone on Monday and that the two had a "lengthy and substantive conversation that covered a variety of topics, including national security."..

    ..Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso, the No. 2 Senate Republican, had a 20-minute conversation with McConnell on Tuesday, according to a spokeswoman. The two discussed Senate races ahead of the midterm elections, the Supreme Court and other topics, the statement said..
    So, he can have lengthy conversations with Republican colleagues, but not with one political journalist?
    He's a very poorly man. If you were in that state, would you rather have lots of conversations with Republican politicians or with journalists?
    Classic syphilis v gonorrhea scenario.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,573
    Nigelb said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    How is one to reinterpret if one doe not preserve ?

    And lest you say we must rely on memory, consider also Borge's Funes el memorioso.
    This is still on my unread books pile:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Praise-Forgetting-Historical-Memory-Ironies/dp/0300182791
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,194

    MattW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
    That looks relatively straightforward, a MySQL file with almost the entire DB of users and comments.

    A wry smile that the standard export also includes private DMs.
    A reminder that lots of things you might think are private, are not actually private.
    That's the old "never say anything you can't take being put on the front page of the Mail" principle.

    Which works, except that the Mail will rewrite it and lie about you.
    Never put in writing anything that you would not want to see be used as "Exhibit A" against you.
    Live a little
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,601
    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Speak for yourself. I want my hilarious ripostes preserved for the pearls they are.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,236
    kinabalu said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Yes, I sort of agree. The body of work of each PBer (esp the deeper ones) can take on new and different meanings as the world in which it resides evolves. I'd give an example but I don't think what I'm talking about can be illustrated in that way.

    Point is, the PB posting history should be thought of as a living thing - and thus a terrible thing to lose.
    Think of the poor doctoral candidates for political history. No letters to read, email used less and less, WhatsApp on delete….

    PB comments might be a big chunk of what’s left.

    Now that is scary.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,284


    “I'm funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh?"
    What's the line about comedy depending on context?

    A bloke with a bin on his head isn't that funny, really. It might work as a short-run running joke, like Graham Chapman's Colonel, or Mr Muzak the Piano Man from Absolutely.

    Nigel Farage calling a by-election and then finding that he will have to spend a month arguing with a bloke with a bin on his head is so funny that even Rachel Reeves can deadpan the gag and it works.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,834
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Worth bearing in mind that there are places that store passwords as plain text fields, rather than encrypted or as a hash. So it's a really bad plan to reuse passwords across different logins.

    I won't tell you how I know this, as I might want work from them in the future. And anyway, they did fix that, and the storing unencrypted credit card details was worse.

    Revolut will create a disposable one-use card for you to use with online transactions so you don't have to worry about your card details being stolen in a hack. Would recommend.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,780
    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Assuming that Derrida said that, then if he is correct in his post modernism we don't have any reliable way of knowing what it meant at the time, as there are no fixed meanings, nor can we know what it means now, as it is decayed and subject to constant reinterpretation. So the thought, if it were true, suffers, like the axioms of logical positivism, from self referential incoherence. And anyone wanting to rescue a pristine core meaning from this or anything Derrida has written is, by doing so denying Derrida's intentions. So in his world my thought that Derrida was an old fraud is immune from criticism.

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,236

    MattW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
    That looks relatively straightforward, a MySQL file with almost the entire DB of users and comments.

    A wry smile that the standard export also includes private DMs.
    A reminder that lots of things you might think are private, are not actually private.
    That's the old "never say anything you can't take being put on the front page of the Mail" principle.

    Which works, except that the Mail will rewrite it and lie about you.
    Never put in writing anything that you would not want to see be used as "Exhibit A" against you.
    Live a little
    Live a little != Create written evidence against you
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,284

    kinabalu said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Yes, I sort of agree. The body of work of each PBer (esp the deeper ones) can take on new and different meanings as the world in which it resides evolves. I'd give an example but I don't think what I'm talking about can be illustrated in that way.

    Point is, the PB posting history should be thought of as a living thing - and thus a terrible thing to lose.
    Think of the poor doctoral candidates for political history. No letters to read, email used less and less, WhatsApp on delete….

    PB comments might be a big chunk of what’s left.

    Now that is scary.
    I'm imagining something like the Q theory of the Gospels; surely these multiple authors must all have been referencing a source text that has sadly not been preserved...
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,194
    edited 8:47AM

    MattW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
    That looks relatively straightforward, a MySQL file with almost the entire DB of users and comments.

    A wry smile that the standard export also includes private DMs.
    A reminder that lots of things you might think are private, are not actually private.
    That's the old "never say anything you can't take being put on the front page of the Mail" principle.

    Which works, except that the Mail will rewrite it and lie about you.
    Never put in writing anything that you would not want to see be used as "Exhibit A" against you.
    Live a little
    Live a little != Create written evidence against you
    I didn’t say it was legal advice!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,379

    kinabalu said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Yes, I sort of agree. The body of work of each PBer (esp the deeper ones) can take on new and different meanings as the world in which it resides evolves. I'd give an example but I don't think what I'm talking about can be illustrated in that way.

    Point is, the PB posting history should be thought of as a living thing - and thus a terrible thing to lose.
    Think of the poor doctoral candidates for political history. No letters to read, email used less and less, WhatsApp on delete….

    PB comments might be a big chunk of what’s left.

    Now that is scary.
    Perhaps Robert will know the exact number from the admin console, but PB averages somewhere around 1,000 comments per day.

    So there’s going to be a ballpark 3-4 million comments in the database.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,408

    kinabalu said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Yes, I sort of agree. The body of work of each PBer (esp the deeper ones) can take on new and different meanings as the world in which it resides evolves. I'd give an example but I don't think what I'm talking about can be illustrated in that way.

    Point is, the PB posting history should be thought of as a living thing - and thus a terrible thing to lose.
    Think of the poor doctoral candidates for political history. No letters to read, email used less and less, WhatsApp on delete….

    PB comments might be a big chunk of what’s left.

    Now that is scary.
    I'm imagining something like the Q theory of the Gospels; surely these multiple authors must all have been referencing a source text that has sadly not been preserved...
    "Millions of Women.........."
  • prh47bridgeprh47bridge Posts: 510
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Btw, when the site migrates presumably new accounts will be the order of the day?

    If you can get the data out of Vanilla in SQL or similar format, it should be easy enough to batch create accounts on Wordpress to import the users list, then write a script to email everyone with a password reset link.
    If you want to transfer the comments surely that's the only viable way, or else there's no way to link the comments with the right user - someone could register someone else's name which we would not want doing.
    Correct.

    You probably have a table called USERS with fields ID USERNAME PASSWORD (hash) DATE_CREATED DATE_UPDATED etc.

    You then have a table called COMMENTS with fields COMMENT_ID DATE_TIME USER_ID COMMENT_TEXT.

    You have a join between the field ID in the USERS table, and the field USER_ID in the COMMENTS table, which is how you associate each comment with the user.
    Vanilla’s export options are outlined here: https://success.vanillaforums.com/kb/articles/1945-database-backup-and-data-export-options

    None of it looks too mad.
    That looks relatively straightforward, a MySQL file with almost the entire DB of users and comments.

    A wry smile that the standard export also includes private DMs.
    A reminder that lots of things you might think are private, are not actually private.
    Indeed. Anything you do on a website is likely to be visible to the admins, if no-one else. Your password will be hashed rather than encrypted, so they shouldn't be able to get that. But private messages, public posts, etc. will all be visible.

    Just to clarify the difference between encrypting and hashing for anyone non-technical... Encryption is a two-way process. If I have the keys, I can decrypt anything that has been encrypted. Hashing is in some ways similar to encryption in that it scrambles the password, but it is a one-way process. There is no way to get back from the hash to the original password.

    As a side-note, I remember in the late 1980s discovering that the email software my employer used could be hacked easily. Passwords were stored encrypted. When a user logged in, instead of encrypting the password entered and comparing that with the one stored, it decrypted the stored password and compared that with the one entered. Using debug (which was part of MS-DOS), it was easy to put a breakpoint in the right place so you could see the decrypted password.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,211
    Sandpit said:

    kinabalu said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    Yes, I sort of agree. The body of work of each PBer (esp the deeper ones) can take on new and different meanings as the world in which it resides evolves. I'd give an example but I don't think what I'm talking about can be illustrated in that way.

    Point is, the PB posting history should be thought of as a living thing - and thus a terrible thing to lose.
    Think of the poor doctoral candidates for political history. No letters to read, email used less and less, WhatsApp on delete….

    PB comments might be a big chunk of what’s left.

    Now that is scary.
    Perhaps Robert will know the exact number from the admin console, but PB averages somewhere around 1,000 comments per day.

    So there’s going to be a ballpark 3-4 million comments in the database.
    Of which there will be about 300k - 400k arguing about Brexit.
    300k - 400k arguing about housing
    600k - 800k talking about sport

    And about 30k-40k tips on political betting.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,238
    Dura_Ace said:

    The best approach would be to wipe all comments and just let us start again. Jacques Derrida wrote that writing is inherently unstable and the original meaning begins to decay as soon as the words are formed. Therefore written forms thought only survive through continuous restatement and reinterpretation.

    Also, consider the short story La biblioteca de Babel in Jorge Luis Borge's El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan on the futility of preservation.

    On the other hand, read Ian McEwan's latest novel - What We can Know.
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