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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,485
    viewcode said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    New article from John Gray in the New Statesman.

    "The downfall of the Oxbridge don
    British academic life was not prepared for the shocks of student protests and Thatcherism
    By John Gray" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/book-of-the-day/2026/07/the-downfall-of-the-oxbridge-don

    A book has just been published on it I am reading

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Twilight-Dons-British-Intellectuals-Thatcherism/dp/0691188769
    Interesting. Is it any good?
    Yes but only done the first chapter so far, including the period when dons had to be celibate and unmarried
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,189
    HYUFD said:

    viewcode said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    New article from John Gray in the New Statesman.

    "The downfall of the Oxbridge don
    British academic life was not prepared for the shocks of student protests and Thatcherism
    By John Gray" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/book-of-the-day/2026/07/the-downfall-of-the-oxbridge-don

    A book has just been published on it I am reading

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Twilight-Dons-British-Intellectuals-Thatcherism/dp/0691188769
    Interesting. Is it any good?
    Yes but only done the first chapter so far, including the period when dons had to be celibate and unmarried
    Well, there's a hook... :)
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,829
    edited 1:31AM
    I don't know what the flowers are in the picture at the top of the page, but they're very nice.
  • AndypetsAndypets Posts: 14
    Andy_JS said:

    I don't know what the flowers are in the picture at the top of the page, but they're very nice.

    Vanilla

  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057
    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057
    edited 4:13AM
    Japan's pension pivot puts Abe-era outpouring of capital in reverse
    ...
    On Friday, Japanese Finance Minister Satsuki Katayama ​floated an idea to encourage the $1.8 trillion Government Pension Investment Fund (GPIF) and other retirement vehicles to increase their holdings of domestic assets.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/takaichis-pension-pivot-seeks-reverse-abe-era-outpouring-japanese-capital-2026-07-10/ (£££)

    Rachel Reeves has similarly been trying to encourage savings here, although if she (or her successor) is not careful, it will just mean more invested in US stocks rather than British shares.

    These sorts of move might also increase pressure on government bonds which is not necessarily good news.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,933
    Andypets said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I don't know what the flowers are in the picture at the top of the page, but they're very nice.

    Vanilla

    Vanilla, if I haven't got this wrong, is one of the only exploited orchids
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,974
    The man arrested on suspicion of murder has been released.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,484
    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Ann Widdecombe's neighbour claims man in hiking clothes appeared in middle of the night'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2227926/ann-widdecombe-neighbour-claims-hiking-gear-man-visited

    I'm currently on holiday but fel obliged to comment on Ann Widdicombe.

    It is entirely possible to disagree with just about everything that someone says an believes in, yet to have the utmost respect for them.

    Ann was a complete one - off.

    She was utterly transparent, what you saw was what you got.

    Her death in this way was a tragedy.

    It would be a small crumb of comfort to find out that it was perpetrated by whoever on grounds that were nothing at all to do with Politics. That seems probably the case.

    She lived in an area of great beauty and almost complete isolation.

    She should be remembered fondly as a genuine person the like of which we will not see again.

    Very good post. I think this shows you can fundamentally disagree with people’s politics and world view but can have respect for them . This reminds me a bit of what I’d call the old timers in the Commons who were for years pro Brexit even when it wasn’t fashionable. Whilst totally disagreeing with them on that I still respect that it was their principled position as opposed to some who jumped on the bandwagon for their political ambitions . No one deserves such a horrible fate that happened to poor Ann Widdecombe . It would seem very strange if this had a political motive as she wasn’t a high profile politician anymore .
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,430
    nico67 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Ann Widdecombe's neighbour claims man in hiking clothes appeared in middle of the night'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2227926/ann-widdecombe-neighbour-claims-hiking-gear-man-visited

    I'm currently on holiday but fel obliged to comment on Ann Widdicombe.

    It is entirely possible to disagree with just about everything that someone says an believes in, yet to have the utmost respect for them.

    Ann was a complete one - off.

    She was utterly transparent, what you saw was what you got.

    Her death in this way was a tragedy.

    It would be a small crumb of comfort to find out that it was perpetrated by whoever on grounds that were nothing at all to do with Politics. That seems probably the case.

    She lived in an area of great beauty and almost complete isolation.

    She should be remembered fondly as a genuine person the like of which we will not see again.

    Very good post. I think this shows you can fundamentally disagree with people’s politics and world view but can have respect for them . This reminds me a bit of what I’d call the old timers in the Commons who were for years pro 2Brexit even when it wasn’t fashionable. Whilst totally disagreeing with them on that I still respect that it was their2 èprincipled position as opposed to some who jumped on the bandwagon for their political ambitions . No one deserves such a horrible fate that happened to poor Ann Widdecombe . It would seem very strange if this had a political motive as she wasn’t a high profile politician anymore .
    Indeed, her politics were awful, however no one deserves to meet their maker on account of their politics which is why Tatchel's intervention was so unwelcome. It will be interesting to see whether Farage uses the tragedy to toxify the well.
  • IcarusIcarus Posts: 1,086

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    That should help if Kane gets a red card tonight.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,583

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    Looks like some dodgy penalties for England tonight then.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,583
    tlg86 said:

    The man arrested on suspicion of murder has been released.

    Well...whatever that is, it's not good. The Blue Ticks have gone into overdrive.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,370
    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Ann Widdecombe's neighbour claims man in hiking clothes appeared in middle of the night'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2227926/ann-widdecombe-neighbour-claims-hiking-gear-man-visited

    I'm currently on holiday but fel obliged to comment on Ann Widdicombe.

    It is entirely possible to disagree with just about everything that someone says an believes in, yet to have the utmost respect for them.

    Ann was a complete one - off.

    She was utterly transparent, what you saw was what you got.

    Her death in this way was a tragedy.

    It would be a small crumb of comfort to find out that it was perpetrated by whoever on grounds that were nothing at all to do with Politics. That seems probably the case.

    She lived in an area of great beauty and almost complete isolation.

    She should be remembered fondly as a genuine person the like of which we will not see again.

    Well said, and good that most people are willing to say the same regardless of political affiliation. Sadly not all people, but definitely most.

    Sadly I logged off yesterday thinking that Miss Widdecome had succumbed to an illness, unaware that she had been murdered.

    She may have had a high-profile career as a public servant, but in retirement she was quite literally the little old lady you know from church.

    We don’t yet know the motive, perhaps it was a house robbery gone wrong rather than a targeted killing or politically motivated, but it seems unfathomable why someone would want to murder that little old lady.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,013

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,840
    Eabhal said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    Looks like some dodgy penalties for England tonight then.
    Or at least some risk-free double-footed fouls...
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,944
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,013
    edited 6:44AM

    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
    As I say, I'll believe it when I see it, and that's not from footage of somebody placing balls in front of him for him to play.

    My grandfather at 86 could play a par 73 course in 90 shots, walking, playing as it lay. *That's* somebody who was a good player for his age. I see no evidence Trump is even in the same parish.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,706
    Dura_Ace said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I hate to indulge in the trivial when the murder of Ann Widdecombe is still fresh, but I need to moan about a film. IMHO, there are/were three perfect films: Alien, Manhunter, Apocalypse Now. Recently they have been disfigured by "director's cuts": Alien has a variant (not too bad but entirely unnecessary and worse than the original) and Apocalypse Now was ruined by the "Final Cut" (it's just rubbish). Now Michael Mann did the Final Cut for Manhunter and the 4k version is now out, being rereleased in September. The person in the back row silently weeping salty tears will be me. Why can't they leave well enough alone?

    I haven't seen the other two, but Manhunter (1986) is very close to being THE perfect film. Never get tired of watching it.
    I can't think of a film to rival it in the serial killer genre. Unless you count Don't Look Now.
    Holy Spider and Memories of a Murder are both better. IMO.
    Agreed on both Memories of Murder* (for those who haven't seen it, the director and lead were Oscar winners for Parasite), and the lack of Mondial hate.

    *Based on S Korea's most notorious serial murder case, which their directors are obsessed with.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,706
    edited 6:52AM
    nico67 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Ann Widdecombe's neighbour claims man in hiking clothes appeared in middle of the night'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2227926/ann-widdecombe-neighbour-claims-hiking-gear-man-visited

    I'm currently on holiday but fel obliged to comment on Ann Widdicombe.

    It is entirely possible to disagree with just about everything that someone says an believes in, yet to have the utmost respect for them.

    Ann was a complete one - off.

    She was utterly transparent, what you saw was what you got.

    Her death in this way was a tragedy.

    It would be a small crumb of comfort to find out that it was perpetrated by whoever on grounds that were nothing at all to do with Politics. That seems probably the case.

    She lived in an area of great beauty and almost complete isolation.

    She should be remembered fondly as a genuine person the like of which we will not see again.

    Very good post. I think this shows you can fundamentally disagree with people’s politics and world view but can have respect for them . This reminds me a bit of what I’d call the old timers in the Commons who were for years pro Brexit even when it wasn’t fashionable. Whilst totally disagreeing with them on that I still respect that it was their principled position as opposed to some who jumped on the bandwagon for their political ambitions . No one deserves such a horrible fate that happened to poor Ann Widdecombe . It would seem very strange if this had a political motive as she wasn’t a high profile politician anymore .
    I'd guess Crick didn't have much time for her politics either.

    https://x.com/MichaelLCrick/status/2075728021328159119
    A former BBC colleague says:
    "Of the hundreds of high profile politicians I dealt with as a floor manager Ann stood out as one who was unfailingly sweet and personable. In those high pressure moments of appearing on Newsnight to be interviewed by Jeremy, it was unremarkable if MPs were terse or barely noticed you were there, but she was a pleasure to bring into the studio, lovely to deal with.
    What absolute horror."


  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057
    Clacton betting:-

    Reform is a best-priced 1/7 with Hills. Count Binface backers can get 15/2 from Starsports, AK Bets and Betfair exchange.
    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/clacton-by-election
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,769
    edited 6:55AM
    Nigelb said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I hate to indulge in the trivial when the murder of Ann Widdecombe is still fresh, but I need to moan about a film. IMHO, there are/were three perfect films: Alien, Manhunter, Apocalypse Now. Recently they have been disfigured by "director's cuts": Alien has a variant (not too bad but entirely unnecessary and worse than the original) and Apocalypse Now was ruined by the "Final Cut" (it's just rubbish). Now Michael Mann did the Final Cut for Manhunter and the 4k version is now out, being rereleased in September. The person in the back row silently weeping salty tears will be me. Why can't they leave well enough alone?

    I haven't seen the other two, but Manhunter (1986) is very close to being THE perfect film. Never get tired of watching it.
    I can't think of a film to rival it in the serial killer genre. Unless you count Don't Look Now.
    Holy Spider and Memories of a Murder are both better. IMO.
    Agreed on both Memories of Murder* (for those who haven't seen it, the director and lead were Oscar winners for Parasite), and the lack of Mondial hate.

    *Based on S Korea's most notorious serial murder case, which their directors are obsessed with.
    It's not quite the same thing because the killer isn't serial but the Argentinian film, El secreto de sus ojos is an excellent treatment of similar themes.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,013

    Clacton betting:-

    Reform is a best-priced 1/7 with Hills. Count Binface backers can get 15/2 from Starsports, AK Bets and Betfair exchange.
    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/clacton-by-election

    Ridiculous odds for Reform. They're surely value at that price given they must be 1/20 in the real world.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,706
    Nigelb said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I hate to indulge in the trivial when the murder of Ann Widdecombe is still fresh, but I need to moan about a film. IMHO, there are/were three perfect films: Alien, Manhunter, Apocalypse Now. Recently they have been disfigured by "director's cuts": Alien has a variant (not too bad but entirely unnecessary and worse than the original) and Apocalypse Now was ruined by the "Final Cut" (it's just rubbish). Now Michael Mann did the Final Cut for Manhunter and the 4k version is now out, being rereleased in September. The person in the back row silently weeping salty tears will be me. Why can't they leave well enough alone?

    I haven't seen the other two, but Manhunter (1986) is very close to being THE perfect film. Never get tired of watching it.
    I can't think of a film to rival it in the serial killer genre. Unless you count Don't Look Now.
    Holy Spider and Memories of a Murder are both better. IMO.
    Agreed on both Memories of Murder* (for those who haven't seen it, the director and lead were Oscar winners for Parasite), and the lack of Mondial hate.

    *Based on S Korea's most notorious serial murder case, which their directors are obsessed with.
    Actually I misremembered.
    Song Kang-ho has never won an Oscar, which is a travesty.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,376
    Andypets said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I don't know what the flowers are in the picture at the top of the page, but they're very nice.

    Vanilla

    Vanilla pods for sure but the flowers and leaves are cherry I'd guess.

    Nice photo nonetheless.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,764
    Sandpit said:

    On topic Robert @rcs1000 hit me up if you need a hand with anything, data setup, QA etc. I have a fair bit of time on my hands for the next few weeks.

    Thanks @Sandpit, I may well take you up on that
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,430
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
    As I say, I'll believe it when I see it, and that's not from footage of somebody placing balls in front of him for him to play.

    My grandfather at 86 could play a par 73 course in 90 shots, walking, playing as it lay. *That's* somebody who was a good player for his age. I see no evidence Trump is even in the same parish.
    Newent?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,013

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is a good player for his age
    As I say, I'll believe it when I see it, and that's not from footage of somebody placing balls in front of him for him to play.

    My grandfather at 86 could play a par 73 course in 90 shots, walking, playing as it lay. *That's* somebody who was a good player for his age. I see no evidence Trump is even in the same parish.
    Newent?
    Ross. Newent was a 9 hole par 36.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,706
    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,775
    ydoethur said:

    England's Kane confirms golf outing with Trump, praises president's game
    ...
    Speaking on Friday on the eve of ​their World Cup quarter-final match against Norway, Kane confirmed the ⁠round took place in Palm Beach, Florida, about 18 ​months ago.
    ...
    Trump ⁠had complimented the Bayern Munich forward on his Truth Social platform following England's 3-2 ​last-16 victory over Mexico, writing: "Harry Kane of England ​is ⁠a GREAT player!!!"

    The following day, Trump revealed the pair had played golf together.
    "I think Kane is a great player," ⁠Trump ​said. "I played golf with him ​and I like him a lot. He's a good golfer. He's really ​great."

    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/englands-kane-confirms-golf-outing-with-trump-praises-presidents-game-2026-07-11/ (£££)

    I once saw some footage of Trump playing golf at Turnberry.

    Every time he wanted to play a shot, his aide would carefully place the ball in front of wherever he'd pulled up his golf cart.

    Now, that was a practice round, by himself. But he later tweeted about how well he'd played the course.

    Or to put it another way - I'll believe stories about his brilliance on the golf course when I've actually seen hard evidence for them.
    Trump is good but he’s not a patch on Kim Jong Ils abilities. Eleven holes in one on his first ever round. He stopped playing to give others a chance…
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,774
    I've had my breakfast outdoors this morning. And I have to say that it is a bit on the chilly side.

    Wonderful.

    The trouble is that the cool air that has now had the chance to enter the house will get heated up by the fabric of the building.

    But the forecast is *only* 27C here today, so we shouldn't get a repeat of the 28.9C we had in the living room yesterday.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057
    ydoethur said:

    Clacton betting:-

    Reform is a best-priced 1/7 with Hills. Count Binface backers can get 15/2 from Starsports, AK Bets and Betfair exchange.
    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/clacton-by-election

    Ridiculous odds for Reform. They're surely value at that price given they must be 1/20 in the real world.
    Bookies might be running scared after a few shrewdies backed Count Binface at 3-figure prices before it became evident the major parties were not taking part.

    Betfair's history shows £3 was traded at 1,000 on Count Binface, with £200 at 60.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,057

    I've had my breakfast outdoors this morning. And I have to say that it is a bit on the chilly side.

    Wonderful.

    The trouble is that the cool air that has now had the chance to enter the house will get heated up by the fabric of the building.

    But the forecast is *only* 27C here today, so we shouldn't get a repeat of the 28.9C we had in the living room yesterday.

    A bit more breeze here too, but 30°C inside.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,230
    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,370
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    On topic Robert @rcs1000 hit me up if you need a hand with anything, data setup, QA etc. I have a fair bit of time on my hands for the next few weeks.

    Thanks @Sandpit, I may well take you up on that
    No worries, I’ll give myself a Wordpress refresher course in the meantime!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 80,013

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    Florida?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,840

    Nigelb said:

    Latest on the Mich McConnell is just restin' saga.

    https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2075589852712570881
    New footage reportedly shows Sen. Mitch McConnell being loaded onto a stretcher and taken by ambulance after collapsing. EMS audio reportedly references an unconscious patient in cardiac arrest with CPR in progress, according to CNN.

    https://x.com/DissentinBloom/status/2075625400386904236
    Medical here. If this video is real, there's a couple things that stand out to me after watching at 0.25x speed. 1) they have a sally transfer sheet underneath of him, which means he was not assisting or mobile at all.
    2) they have like no equipment with them; I don't see a bag mask, a LUCAS, intubation. Nothing. This is consistent with the transfer of a dead body...


    I spoke on the phone for 30 minutes with Mitch this morning, and he categorically denied being dead.

    Schrödinger's Senator. Both dead and alive until he is observed. Then he will collapse into a single state.
    It's going to have its own Weekend at Mich's meme isn't it?
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