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Will a 4th of July election be Sunak’s siege of Yorktown? – politicalbetting.com

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  • Not a great speech from SKS but Rishi's was worse
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,043
    edited May 22

    As most of you know I am the Liberal Democrat candidate in Aberdeenshire North and Moray East. Anyone else want to out themselves as candidates? For any party in any constituency?

    I assume @Tissue_Price is standing?

    And you're not on the wiki page, so the only possible explanation is that you're lying ;)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeenshire_North_and_Moray_East_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,052
    Andy_JS said:

    The only place the Tories might gain seats is north-east Scotland, from the SNP.

    I think they will struggle to gain anything and could lose heavily
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,547

    Which was the crazier decision. The snap election or announcing it in the rain with the pillock with the PA?

    The latter by a country mile. Sunak had to have an election within the next 7 months and he was rapidly running out of choice - every date is pretty much as bad as every other.

    Choosing to do the announcement out in the rain with a very audible protest going on was crass ineptitude.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,672

    Which was the crazier decision. The snap election or announcing it in the rain with the pillock with the PA?

    The pillock with the PA probaly brought half a million back from Reform to the Tories.

    This is Labour. 5 years of putting your blood pressure up 25 points.....
    Good too see someone's in high spirits and relishing the fight. You may not be 100% representative of Tory opinion, mind.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037

    Still 1.01 on Betfair but presumably it ties up money for a month.

    For July or July 4? The demise of KC3 would push it to July 18th as the only black Swan that's possible I think
    For July. £6,255 available at 1.01 which is actually rising, which is probably due to profit-taking (or someone very clever knows of an incoming comet).
    Incoming Alien flu meteor nova klaxon
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,514

    Heathener said:

    And the Daily Mail:

    Heathener, these a re unreadable. Please at least quote the headline if you are going to post through Vanilla.
    Why are all images blurry these days?
    It is all down to Keir Starmer. Time for change. Vote Rishi.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,353
    So when's the post-GE Tory leadership campaign....
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,527
    Leon said:

    Heathener said:

    Heathener said:

    Personally I think it’s quite funny that Labour’s 1997 winning election song was playing.

    And I’m afraid the headlines have been stolen from Sunak. Here’s the Telegraph:


    And for those who like a bit of focus:

    image
    How did you do that?! I need to sharpen up.
    Tis easy

    Here's a picture quiz. A pint of election porter for anyone who can guess the name of this building, where I was recently. Nada googlissimo

    image
    Hmmm...a hangover from the Islamic toehold in Sicily? I think you've been there lately?
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,560
    edited May 22
    Nigelb said:

    AlsoLei said:

    "Voters

    Why oh why oh why did they announce it now. Here. Outside?

    All the "you don't know what you'll get with Labour" stuff was rather let down by his own failure to look at a short-term weather forecast...
    Or control the aural environment.

    Bray is an irritating pillock, but that's not the point. If you can't deal with something as entirely predictable as that, then you're just politically incompetent.
    A decent directional microphone would have cut the background noise out.

    Someone decided not to use one.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,706
    Jonathan said:

    What a wally Sunak is today. Things can only get better.

    "only a Conservative government led by me will not ..."
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,120
    Heathener said:

    Rory Campbell (with Alistair Campbell) is doing a live podcast and says the texts he's getting from MPs and ministers are very much "We have no idea why he's doing this. Maybe he's worried about Farage coming back". They're all "Totally astonished".

    https://www.youtube.com/live/ta2nEmoUQTE

    If you want to watch/hear it.

    The timing is odd. Unless Rishi knows something, what he has done is give his own side six fewer monthly pay cheques, and brought forward a Labour government, which by definition his side thinks is a bad thing.
    Rumour is that the threshold of No Confidence was close. BBC or Sky News mentioned this earlier.
    Suspect that rumour is a case of Tory rebels embiggening their role. That is, I suspect, going to be an issue for Sunak in the campaign - the Five Families will be positioning themselves for a different election.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,486

    Which was the crazier decision. The snap election or announcing it in the rain with the pillock with the PA?

    The pillock with the PA probaly brought half a million back from Reform to the Tories.

    This is Labour. 5 years of putting your blood pressure up 25 points.....
    Unlike the steady calm of the Johnson/Truss/Sunak years. 😄
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,694

    Not a great speech from SKS but Rishi's was worse

    Suspect we’ll be saying that quite a bit this campaign…
  • northern_monkeynorthern_monkey Posts: 1,639

    Heathener said:

    And the Daily Mail:

    Heathener, these a re unreadable. Please at least quote the headline if you are going to post through Vanilla.
    Why are all images blurry these days?
    Time for varifocals?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,212
    edited May 22
    Leon said:

    Fuck me it is STILL raining. Literally non stop for 48 hours

    We had a glorious music festival in Dartmouth. Sort of thought about drizzling for 10 minutes. Didn't even need a brolly.

    Rest of the time it was quite magnificent. Sunday especially, every act on the main stage was on top of their game. One burly late-middle aged guy from Essex came off stage, gave me a big hug, then blubbed. It was THAT beautiful.

    Probably one of the best music festivals anywhere. And all free.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,547

    Still 1.01 on Betfair but presumably it ties up money for a month.

    For July or July 4? The demise of KC3 would push it to July 18th as the only black Swan that's possible I think
    For July. £6,255 available at 1.01 which is actually rising, which is probably due to profit-taking (or someone very clever knows of an incoming comet).

    Market link
    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.223758498

    Also 1.01 for July to September at
    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.218024805

    What are they going to spend their winnings on?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,861
    sarissa said:

    Schools in Scotland close the week before - not that Sunak cares about his chances here.

    It means they won’t have to give the kids a day off school for the election. However, will they need to cancel the jannies’ holidays?

    A school holiday election should help the Scottish Tories, as pensioners don’t tend to take their holidays when the schools are on holiday.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,527

    Heathener said:

    Rory Campbell (with Alistair Campbell) is doing a live podcast and says the texts he's getting from MPs and ministers are very much "We have no idea why he's doing this. Maybe he's worried about Farage coming back". They're all "Totally astonished".

    https://www.youtube.com/live/ta2nEmoUQTE

    If you want to watch/hear it.

    The timing is odd. Unless Rishi knows something, what he has done is give his own side six fewer monthly pay cheques, and brought forward a Labour government, which by definition his side thinks is a bad thing.
    Rumour is that the threshold of No Confidence was close. BBC or Sky News mentioned this earlier.
    Suspect that rumour is a case of Tory rebels embiggening their role. That is, I suspect, going to be an issue for Sunak in the campaign - the Five Families will be positioning themselves for a different election.
    You're probably correct about the embiggening - nevertheless it remains one of the more plausible theories for a remarkable decision.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,269

    CatMan said:

    Starmer sensibly choses to do his speech inside

    He's terrible as well, to be honest. He could do with some music in the background.
    No, it was competent in every respect, even if the semantic value was close to nil.
    The contrast was obvious.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,315

    Which was the crazier decision. The snap election or announcing it in the rain with the pillock with the PA?

    The pillock with the PA probaly brought half a million back from Reform to the Tories.

    This is Labour. 5 years of putting your blood pressure up 25 points.....
    It simply gives you a flavour of where Labour is atm.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    edited May 22
    So I'm assuming Survation have brought forward their Friday poll release to today so maybe they will now run a post announcement one?
    Still, I think Monday onwards we start to get the idea where the land lies with date certainty applied
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    DougSeal said:

    Leon said:

    Heathener said:

    Heathener said:

    Personally I think it’s quite funny that Labour’s 1997 winning election song was playing.

    And I’m afraid the headlines have been stolen from Sunak. Here’s the Telegraph:


    And for those who like a bit of focus:

    image
    How did you do that?! I need to sharpen up.
    Tis easy

    Here's a picture quiz. A pint of election porter for anyone who can guess the name of this building, where I was recently. Nada googlissimo

    image
    Hmmm...a hangover from the Islamic toehold in Sicily? I think you've been there lately?
    Close but not quite. But close!

    It is - without exaggeration - one of the most astonishing buildings I have ever visited. And barely known?!

    It is 900 years old, and it looks eerily new (as all great buildings do: they are ageless). It is pretty much perfect. The only buildings that match it for perfection - in my eyes - are Salisbury Cathedral and the Pantheon
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,269
    Leon said:

    Fuck me it is STILL raining. Literally non stop for 48 hours

    Jonah Sunak.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,667
    Somewhere in Taranto?
  • northern_monkeynorthern_monkey Posts: 1,639
    Rory Stewart getting texts from various people, including Cabinet ministers, saying they’ve no idea why Sunak’s done this now and it’s madness.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,500
    Sainsbury's sitrep: they've dropped the glass Coke bottles. This could be what pushed Rishi over the edge.
  • Laura K continuing her nonsense Tweeting.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    edited May 22

    Somewhere in Taranto?

    Closer still! But not quite there

    It has occult associations, and it is visible for many miles around. It seems to serve no defensive purpose, and the spiral stairs go the wrong way if you want to fight an incoming enemy
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,532
    Leon said:

    Fuck me it is STILL raining. Literally non stop for 48 hours

    It was dry in the eastern burbs for a few hours overnight, but yeah, not the best weather!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,269

    Not a great speech from SKS but Rishi's was worse

    Suspect we’ll be saying that quite a bit this campaign…
    Or the next five years.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,212
    TimS said:

    Which was the crazier decision. The snap election or announcing it in the rain with the pillock with the PA?

    The pillock with the PA probaly brought half a million back from Reform to the Tories.

    This is Labour. 5 years of putting your blood pressure up 25 points.....
    Good too see someone's in high spirits and relishing the fight. You may not be 100% representative of Tory opinion, mind.
    We will fight like hell to keep a superb MP in South Devon (formerly Totnes). People like him are the future of the Conservative Party.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,052
    DougSeal said:

    Leon said:

    Heathener said:

    Heathener said:

    Personally I think it’s quite funny that Labour’s 1997 winning election song was playing.

    And I’m afraid the headlines have been stolen from Sunak. Here’s the Telegraph:


    And for those who like a bit of focus:

    image
    How did you do that?! I need to sharpen up.
    Tis easy

    Here's a picture quiz. A pint of election porter for anyone who can guess the name of this building, where I was recently. Nada googlissimo

    image
    Hmmm...a hangover from the Islamic toehold in Sicily? I think you've been there lately?
    Name of the Rose it was on the Italian Euro coins
  • Alastair Campbell: "Rishi Sunak has the element of surprise."
    Rory Stewart: "Surprise! I am 20 points behind and I am going to lose."

    ROFL
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,068
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Chameleon said:

    Leon said:

    Chameleon said:

    Between the weather on his suit and Things Can Only Get Better that was the most tragic speech I've ever seen.

    It was. Desperately bad. Steve Bray should be hurled into the Channel but that was still awful

    His delivery is so bad, and wooden, it's weird. Ah well, he will be gone soon enough
    Like a supply teacher who's given up hope of controlling the class. Hard words without conviction.
    Very good analogy! Indeed perfect

    Thats exactly what he sounds like. A weak teacher defeated by an unruly class that knows it has the teacher on the run

    We had one of those at my secondary school. My Polyblank. That was his name. Taught music, or, rather, tried to teach music even as the entire class ran riot every lesson, he would stand there mouthing pointless firm words which made everyone laugh

    Very sad. And that is Sunak, you are bang on
    Polyblank? Really?
    I always have a faint admiration for people who have gone into teaching despite having an absurd name.
    Is it Cornish, I wonder?
    I just checked. Apparently it could be derived from Old French for "white hair"

    We also had a Mr Snoswell who taught Physics

    We didn't have any amusingly named teachers that I remember. But some had an amusing appearance. Particularly together. The physics department had a man who was absurdly tall, thin, and ginger, a man who looked like a garden gnome, and a man who was the spit of Bruce Grobelaar. Seeing the three of them together never failed to be arresting.
    My grandfather once had to have a friendly conversation with a young and rather naive man who thought he was going to teach at Telford Secretary Modern with the name of Ernest Pee.

    He added an 'l' to that name...and as the bank manager, that made it all nice and official.

    You'd never get away with that today though.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,547
    edited May 22

    Heathener said:

    And the Daily Mail:

    Heathener, these a re unreadable. Please at least quote the headline if you are going to post through Vanilla.
    Why are all images blurry these days?
    They are not. Only those posted via Vanilla are blurry - there must be some restriction limiting them to about 240x180 pixels.

    Post direct thus to avoid this issue:

    image
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,052
    CatMan said:

    As most of you know I am the Liberal Democrat candidate in Aberdeenshire North and Moray East. Anyone else want to out themselves as candidates? For any party in any constituency?

    I assume @Tissue_Price is standing?

    And you're not on the wiki page, so the only possible explanation is that you're lying ;)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeenshire_North_and_Moray_East_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
    Break a Leg!
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 3,151
    edited May 22
    Can you use the alt tag properly as it's there for accessibility so blind people can understand what the image would display
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,193
    Oh wow, that was the wrong afternoon to be stuck in a meeting! I thought the only news might be Paula Vennells perjuring herself.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 17,992
    Just spoke to my mother to catch up with what she thought about the election announcement.

    Found out that she's struggling to get the NHS to agree to put her on the waiting list for a cataract operation for her left eye, and now thinks her right eye has started to develop one too. She's going to be functionally blind and in need of expensive care before the NHS manage to perform a relatively routine operation.

    What a shambles everything is.

    How much would a private cataract operation cost?
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,628
    Absolutely incredible

    Even this morning I thought there was no chance of this
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,212
    Leon said:

    Heathener said:

    Heathener said:

    Personally I think it’s quite funny that Labour’s 1997 winning election song was playing.

    And I’m afraid the headlines have been stolen from Sunak. Here’s the Telegraph:


    And for those who like a bit of focus:

    image
    How did you do that?! I need to sharpen up.
    Tis easy

    Here's a picture quiz. A pint of election porter for anyone who can guess the name of this building, where I was recently. Nada googlissimo

    image
    Has the roof fallen in at Ely???
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,500
    Nigel Farage needs to piss or get off the pot.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,532

    Heathener said:

    And the Daily Mail:

    Heathener, these a re unreadable. Please at least quote the headline if you are going to post through Vanilla.
    Why are all images blurry these days?
    They are not. Only those posted via Vanilla are blurry - there must be some restriction limiting them to about 240x180 pixels.

    Post direct thus to avoid this issue:

    image
    From my hard disk?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    edited May 22
    Cicero said:

    DougSeal said:

    Leon said:

    Heathener said:

    Heathener said:

    Personally I think it’s quite funny that Labour’s 1997 winning election song was playing.

    And I’m afraid the headlines have been stolen from Sunak. Here’s the Telegraph:


    And for those who like a bit of focus:

    image
    How did you do that?! I need to sharpen up.
    Tis easy

    Here's a picture quiz. A pint of election porter for anyone who can guess the name of this building, where I was recently. Nada googlissimo

    image
    Hmmm...a hangover from the Islamic toehold in Sicily? I think you've been there lately?
    Name of the Rose it was on the Italian Euro coins
    You are close enough without mentioning the name. Yes, it was on the 1 euro Italian coin. It is Castel del Monte in northern Puglia, Mindblowing place, one of the great buildings of the world, yet barely known outside Italy

    Built by Frederick II, the Holy Roman Emperor and "Stupor Mundi". It has Muslim, Norman, Byzantine elements, arguments rage as to its purpose

    https://www.italia.it/en/puglia/barletta-andria-trani/things-to-do/castel-del-monte-unesco
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,238
    The last time I met Call Me Dave™ was on a day even wetter than today, at an unveiling on a village green in the constituency. He looked absolutely unflappable. A complete contrast to Sunak looking like a drowned rat outside number 10.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,769
    Tomorrow's MASSIVE ANNOUNCEMENT from Reform at 11am tomorrow.

    Farage to lead the campaign?

    Yes?
    or
    No?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,201

    The last time I met Call Me Dave™ was on a day even wetter than today, at an unveiling on a village green in the constituency. He looked absolutely unflappable. A complete contrast to Sunak looking like a drowned rat outside number 10.

    Dave is the best.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,500

    Just spoke to my mother to catch up with what she thought about the election announcement.

    Found out that she's struggling to get the NHS to agree to put her on the waiting list for a cataract operation for her left eye, and now thinks her right eye has started to develop one too. She's going to be functionally blind and in need of expensive care before the NHS manage to perform a relatively routine operation.

    What a shambles everything is.

    How much would a private cataract operation cost?

    Phone up a private hospital near your mum (or near wherever she will stay the following week) and ask them.
  • The last time I met Call Me Dave™ was on a day even wetter than today, at an unveiling on a village green in the constituency. He looked absolutely unflappable. A complete contrast to Sunak looking like a drowned rat outside number 10.

    Dave is the best.
    Certainly the best PM after Tony.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,604
    Sky saying inflation higher than expected, no prospect of interest rate cut for some time.

    I reckon that, coupled with borrowing above forecast which likely means no room for tax cuts in Autumn Statement, is what has driven the date.

    Finally, maybe, they know they can get a flight to Rwanda during the campaign?

    Even if some Court says No, maybe they just send the flight anyway given they won't be in office to deal with whatever later happens.

    If a flight does go and Starmer still then says he will cancel the scheme that is the sort of thing that could be a Black Swan.
  • Rishi Sunak looking sad after calling an election

    WHY did he think this was a good idea
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,532

    The last time I met Call Me Dave™ was on a day even wetter than today, at an unveiling on a village green in the constituency. He looked absolutely unflappable. A complete contrast to Sunak looking like a drowned rat outside number 10.

    Dave is the best.
    Unelected Has-Been!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037

    Tomorrow's MASSIVE ANNOUNCEMENT from Reform at 11am tomorrow.

    Farage to lead the campaign?

    Yes?
    or
    No?

    Andrea Jenkyns joining?
  • FishingFishing Posts: 4,927
    Jonathan said:

    This has been by some margin the worst government in my lifetime. Somehow managing to be depressing, chaotic, incompetent and nasty.

    It’s time to get the buggers out. Move heaven and Earth, hold your nose if you have to, but they have to go.

    I didn't know you were under 14.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    That was fucking pathetic from Big Rish in the pissing rain. I fucking despise the little shit and wish him nothing but personal and professional ill fortune in the years ahead so we're off to a good start.
  • The last time I met Call Me Dave™ was on a day even wetter than today, at an unveiling on a village green in the constituency. He looked absolutely unflappable. A complete contrast to Sunak looking like a drowned rat outside number 10.

    Dave is the best.
    So good, he'll be out of job again very soon!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,197


    WHY did he think this was a good idea

    Because he had a plan and didn't want to go back to square one.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,532

    Rishi Sunak looking sad after calling an election

    WHY did he think this was a good idea

    "Why does it always rain on me?
    Is it because I lied when I was seventeen points behind in the polls?"
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,888

    The last time I met Call Me Dave™ was on a day even wetter than today, at an unveiling on a village green in the constituency. He looked absolutely unflappable. A complete contrast to Sunak looking like a drowned rat outside number 10.

    Dave is the best.
    No, only better than Sunak.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,628
    As a right wing voter I expect, based on all the reasonable evidence, that Labour will win and win well.

    BUT..


    You never know! 😈
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,295

    Just spoke to my mother to catch up with what she thought about the election announcement.

    Found out that she's struggling to get the NHS to agree to put her on the waiting list for a cataract operation for her left eye, and now thinks her right eye has started to develop one too. She's going to be functionally blind and in need of expensive care before the NHS manage to perform a relatively routine operation.

    What a shambles everything is.

    How much would a private cataract operation cost?

    I’ve got to say that as far as my wife and myself are concerned the NHS is working well.

    We’re not voting for Rishi, though.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 3,151
    edited May 22
    MikeL said:

    Sky saying inflation higher than expected, no prospect of interest rate cut for some time.

    I reckon that, coupled with borrowing above forecast which likely means no room for tax cuts in Autumn Statement, is what has driven the date.

    Finally, maybe, they know they can get a flight to Rwanda during the campaign?

    Even if some Court says No, maybe they just send the flight anyway given they won't be in office to deal with whatever later happens.

    If a flight does go and Starmer still then says he will cancel the scheme that is the sort of thing that could be a Black Swan.

    I think it is much simpler.

    Rishi was always waiting for inflation to come down, it didn't come down enough in April otherwise he'd have called it then. I think he concluded long ago it wasn't going to get any better.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557

    Tomorrow's MASSIVE ANNOUNCEMENT from Reform at 11am tomorrow.

    Farage to lead the campaign?

    Yes?
    or
    No?

    Farage could be the difference between the Tories getting 150+ seats, maybe even 200+. or actually going extinct with 50 or fewer

    It must be tempting for him to destroy them, and it will likely be his last exercise of power
  • I understand that the Tory Party are complaining to Ofcom that GB News covered Sunak's speech in full which gave an unfair advantage to the Labour Party

    https://x.com/nick5michaels/status/1793328027201311197

    Now the Tories care about GBeebies
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 62,652
    John Swinney calling foul for Sunak calling vote in Scots holidays

    I found it quite funny how upset he is
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,661

    Not a great speech from SKS but Rishi's was worse

    I didn’t think much of Starmer’s dance moves.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,728

    Rishi Sunak looking sad after calling an election

    WHY did he think this was a good idea

    Maybe his suit was a bit roomy and now it will fit more snugly?
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,846
    GIN1138 said:

    NEW: Our first take on the General Election ahead.

    21 Point Labour Lead, highest since November 2022.

    LAB 48 (+4)
    CON 27 (+3)
    LD 8 (-2)
    GRN 2 (-5)
    RFM 8 (-)
    SNP 3 (+1)
    OTH 4 (-1)

    F/w 21st - 22nd May. Changes vs. 10th May 2024.

    Survation.........

    Opening polling salvo for the 2024 UK general election...
    I got on Labour vote share 48-50% on BFE at 22/1 a while back with the intention of trading out when there was a bit more liquidity. Now I'm thinking of holding on to it as a shot to nothing.

    Still don't think it will actually happen but I think this is one of those elections where the more we see of Sunak, the less people are going to like him. He's awkward and gaffe prone, and I think there will be a lot of tactical voting in Labour's favour.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 62,652

    Just spoke to my mother to catch up with what she thought about the election announcement.

    Found out that she's struggling to get the NHS to agree to put her on the waiting list for a cataract operation for her left eye, and now thinks her right eye has started to develop one too. She's going to be functionally blind and in need of expensive care before the NHS manage to perform a relatively routine operation.

    What a shambles everything is.

    How much would a private cataract operation cost?

    A friend had it done for £2,000
  • northern_monkeynorthern_monkey Posts: 1,639
    Rory’s guess: a Lab maj of 69
  • kyf_100 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    NEW: Our first take on the General Election ahead.

    21 Point Labour Lead, highest since November 2022.

    LAB 48 (+4)
    CON 27 (+3)
    LD 8 (-2)
    GRN 2 (-5)
    RFM 8 (-)
    SNP 3 (+1)
    OTH 4 (-1)

    F/w 21st - 22nd May. Changes vs. 10th May 2024.

    Survation.........

    Opening polling salvo for the 2024 UK general election...
    I got on Labour vote share 48-50% on BFE at 22/1 a while back with the intention of trading out when there was a bit more liquidity. Now I'm thinking of holding on to it as a shot to nothing.

    Still don't think it will actually happen but I think this is one of those elections where the more we see of Sunak, the less people are going to like him. He's awkward and gaffe prone, and I think there will be a lot of tactical voting in Labour's favour.
    I think the strategy will be Labour saying as little as possible and being as dull as possible. They will bore us to death. Sunak will hang himself.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,025
    edited May 22
    Look, I know it's cruel to have Rishi photos from unflattering angles, but ...

    https://twitter.com/SayeedaWarsi/status/1793318392985768268
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    In his way he was actually worse than Johnson and Truss. Johnson was actually a genuine politician if a sociopath while Truss was madly entertaining with emphasis on mad. Sunak was a twice over-promoted spreadsheet wanker who should not have been let anywhere near real people.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    edited May 22

    Which was the crazier decision. The snap election or announcing it in the rain with the pillock with the PA?

    The pillock with the PA probaly brought half a million back from Reform to the Tories.

    This is Labour. 5 years of putting your blood pressure up 25 points.....
    Unfortunately we’re going to have six weeks of people telling us that this or that will drive people to / from this or that Party.

    These minor things WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,322
    Well.
    I didn't expect that.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 4,927

    Predictions: # 1 Labour 39%, Tories 34%. Labour short of a majority.

    Given the collapse in living standards over the past couple of years, the lack of any positive reason to vote for the Conservatives, Rishi's disastrous approval ratings, SKS's bland, inoffensive centrism, the fact that they are trying for a fifth term and the four inch height differential in SKS's favour, that would be a stunning achievement by the government. If Labour can't win convincingly now, when can they?

    I'd guesstimate a 10-14 point differential in the vote myself: Lab 43% Con 31% or so.

    But the electorate is of course pretty volatile.
  • Its a bit of a disgrace that the cops couldn't shut Bray's sound system up so we can actually hear this election announcement properly

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1793315605728129289

    So the Sun accepts there are limitations on freedom of speech then?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,547

    Look, I know it's cruel to have Rishi photos from unflattering angles, but ...

    image

    He does look very small in that one
  • MustaphaMondeoMustaphaMondeo Posts: 171
    I have the LGA conference finishing on the 4th
    will it be crazed fun or dead?
    Do I go?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,500
    Leon said:

    Tomorrow's MASSIVE ANNOUNCEMENT from Reform at 11am tomorrow.

    Farage to lead the campaign?

    Yes?
    or
    No?

    Farage could be the difference between the Tories getting 150+ seats, maybe even 200+. or actually going extinct with 50 or fewer

    It must be tempting for him to destroy them, and it will likely be his last exercise of power
    And a July election leaves Nigel Farage time to get back across the Atlantic for some of that sweet, sweet American television money commenting on their election.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,547

    Look, I know it's cruel to have Rishi photos from unflattering angles, but ...

    Here you go: image

    (Hint: copy image address)
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,640

    I have the LGA conference finishing on the 4th
    will it be crazed fun or dead?
    Do I go?

    Surely postponed...
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    A better title would have been 'Gorn on the 4th of July'.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,598

    Just spoke to my mother to catch up with what she thought about the election announcement.

    Found out that she's struggling to get the NHS to agree to put her on the waiting list for a cataract operation for her left eye, and now thinks her right eye has started to develop one too. She's going to be functionally blind and in need of expensive care before the NHS manage to perform a relatively routine operation.

    What a shambles everything is.

    How much would a private cataract operation cost?

    A friend had it done for £2,000
    One or both?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,532

    Look, I know it's cruel to have Rishi photos from unflattering angles, but ...

    image

    He does look very small in that one
    :lol:
  • MundoMundo Posts: 36
    Long time lurker, very occasional poster.

    University terms end mid to late June. Election held when most students have returned home.

    Can those wiser than me speculate on likely impact on (lack of) student vote in university towns? Possible betting implications?
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,120
    Dura_Ace said:

    In his way he was actually worse than Johnson and Truss. Johnson was actually a genuine politician if a sociopath while Truss was madly entertaining with emphasis on mad. Sunak was a twice over-promoted spreadsheet wanker who should not have been let anywhere near real people.

    Is "overpromoted" really worse than "crooked" or "bonkers"?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,702
    ...
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,598

    Look, I know it's cruel to have Rishi photos from unflattering angles, but ...

    image

    He does look very small in that one
    :lol:
    We could do with IanB2's dog, that's for sure, to make sense of that image.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,671
    CatMan said:

    As most of you know I am the Liberal Democrat candidate in Aberdeenshire North and Moray East. Anyone else want to out themselves as candidates? For any party in any constituency?

    I assume @Tissue_Price is standing?

    And you're not on the wiki page, so the only possible explanation is that you're lying ;)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeenshire_North_and_Moray_East_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
    https://www.banffandbuchanlibdems.org.uk/general-election-2023
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,532

    Look, I know it's cruel to have Rishi photos from unflattering angles, but ...

    image

    He does look very small in that one
    :blush:
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,710
    edited May 22
    Dura_Ace said:

    In his way he was actually worse than Johnson and Truss. Johnson was actually a genuine politician if a sociopath while Truss was madly entertaining with emphasis on mad. Sunak was a twice over-promoted spreadsheet wanker who should not have been let anywhere near real people.

    In a way it appears to be more of a vanity escapade than Johnson's. Unless he knew he was about to be kebabbed by backbench Cons MPs it for all the world looks like he flounced in, wasn't up to the job, and flounced out again. At least BoJo really wanted the job rather than took it because it was passing.

    I mean Plato did have a point about not paying the Guardians for running the state.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,702
    @ShippersUnbound

    Tory MPs and candidates have been asked to assemble at the Excel centre for a rally with Sunak at 8pm this evening, where the PM will “speak for 15 mins”. Fair to say not all of them regard this as an enticing offer
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,598
    Mundo said:

    Long time lurker, very occasional poster.

    University terms end mid to late June. Election held when most students have returned home.

    Can those wiser than me speculate on likely impact on (lack of) student vote in university towns? Possible betting implications?

    LDs in St Andrews and Edinburgh will hurt, for a start, I'd think.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,532

    Look, I know it's cruel to have Rishi photos from unflattering angles, but ...

    image
    https://twitter.com/SayeedaWarsi/status/1793318392985768268

    :lol:

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