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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,353

    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
  • A "They / Them" run instead of a "He / Him" one?
    My shins identify as Bob and Sarah, I will have you know!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,271

    I’m not a vegan and I don’t go to vegan/venison restaurants. I go to Wetherspoons.

    I honestly don’t see the problem.
    15 years ago, having Venison or Rabbit (or other meats) on the menu would have been about expanding choice and range into traditional meats for the right reasons.

    Now, it's done by Woke people to restrict and qualifyt the choices of others for Woke reasons.

    It is therefore now Woke, and it has put me off.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    rcs1000 said:

    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    I remember a graffito in the biology dept at the uni. "Eat shite; 1,000,000,000 flies can't be wrong.'
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507
    Carnyx said:

    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I misread 'cervid' and was thinking that shooting a cervix didn't sound very woke.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,353
    Carnyx said:

    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    My old boss used to love shooting pheasants.

    He called it "the humane harvesting of organic free range produce".
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    15 years ago, having Venison or Rabbit (or other meats) on the menu would have been about expanding choice and range into traditional meats for the right reasons.

    Now, it's done by Woke people to restrict and qualifyt the choices of others for Woke reasons.

    It is therefore now Woke, and it has put me off.
    Haw! That's excellent satire. Really catches the Wokefinder General ambience. Now all you need is some RAF chaps' dog names.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,271
    rcs1000 said:

    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    It's restricted the choice at one of my favourite pubs. And I am royally pissed off.

    That's what I object to.

    If someone tries and tells me what to do I am liable to do the exact opposite, and then turn it up to eleven to spite them and teach them a lesson.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    rcs1000 said:

    My old boss used to love shooting pheasants.

    He called it "the humane harvesting of organic free range produce".
    Quite. So long as he was accurate, mind.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,353

    It's restricted the choice at one of my favourite pubs. And I am royally pissed off.

    That's what I object to.

    If someone tries and tells me what to do I am liable to do the exact opposite, and then turn it up to eleven to spite them and teach them a lesson.
    It's not the venison you object to, it's the restriction of other choices.

    Which is perfectly reasonable. But that doesn't make venison in any way wrong or woke.
  • The great thing about the free market is that I am free to dine at vegan restaurants - I have some great suggestions in South Ken if anyone would be interested? - and others can go to McD and have a cheeseburger. I had one last night, it was yummy.
  • ydoethur said:

    I misread 'cervid' and was thinking that shooting a cervix didn't sound very woke.
    There's a joke to be made about shooting your load into a cervix but I'm too classy to make it.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,634
    Carnyx said:

    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,254

    It's restricted the choice at one of my favourite pubs. And I am royally pissed off.

    That's what I object to.

    If someone tries and tells me what to do I am liable to do the exact opposite, and then turn it up to eleven to spite them and teach them a lesson.
    Loads of pubs close every year. Its a tough gig. Quite surprised that they can afford to base their menu specifically to piss off their customers. Of course they might be doing what they think sells....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,271

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    edited March 2023
    ohnotnow said:

    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
    Pan fried [edit:] two breasts yesterday night, very shallowly with chopped shallots and mushrooms, and mashed potatoes, and peas (the latter only cos we have to empty the freezer: else sprouts or cabbage or sweetcorn. Served with a little cranberry sauce left over from Christmas (else we'd have redcurrant or sloe jelly).
  • You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,634
    Seeing as we're on a food kick, this news is causing a lot of "it's the end of days" vibes here : https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-64834929

    "Scottish bakery Morton's Rolls 'ceases trading'"

    Which I know means naff-all to almost almost anyone, but a "roll'n'square" without the roll being a Mortons... is just unthinkable. And please, no-one be so cruel as to suggest a McGhee's.

    (Allegedly there is a little chicanery behind the 'ceases trading' - but we'll see)
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,276
    edited March 2023

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,634
    Carnyx said:

    Pan fried [edit:] two breasts yesterday night, very shallowly with chopped shallots and mushrooms, and mashed potatoes, and peas (the latter only cos we have to empty the freezer: else sprouts or cabbage or sweetcorn. Served with a little cranberry sauce left over from Christmas (else we'd have redcurrant or sloe jelly).
    That isn't helping my cravings.... Tonights chicken stir fry is becoming less appealing by the minute.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,271

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    Do you want a fight?

    Apologise and stop your obsession with me.

    Or let's have this over once and for all.

    You can DM me any time.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507

    There's a joke to be made about shooting your load into a cervix but I'm too classy to make it.
    Did you find that restraint a hard one?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    ohnotnow said:

    Seeing as we're on a food kick, this news is causing a lot of "it's the end of days" vibes here : https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-64834929

    "Scottish bakery Morton's Rolls 'ceases trading'"

    Which I know means naff-all to almost almost anyone, but a "roll'n'square" without the roll being a Mortons... is just unthinkable. And please, no-one be so cruel as to suggest a McGhee's.

    (Allegedly there is a little chicanery behind the 'ceases trading' - but we'll see)

    Used to live 3 doors away from a traditional bakery. Fresh rolls every morning. Now ...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507

    Do you want a fight?

    Apologise and stop your obsession with me.

    Or let's have this over once and for all.

    You can DM me any time.
    Swords or pistols?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    ydoethur said:

    Swords or pistols?
    Keyboards surely.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,614
    edited March 2023
    ohnotnow said:

    That isn't helping my cravings.... Tonights chicken stir fry is becoming less appealing by the minute.

    What do we pay for pheasants? I still have a couple left in the freezer from my Christmas Game Box from Aldi. I have now taken one out for this evening :smile: .

    Looking at my usual sources for kippers*, I see that Mallards are now at £4.99, which was 3 or £10 at Christmas 2022. Is that decent value, short of shooting it myself?

    * https://www.lancastersmokehouse.co.uk/collections/meats/products/oven-ready-wild-mallard
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,634
    Carnyx said:

    Used to live 3 doors away from a traditional bakery. Fresh rolls every morning. Now ...
    I have some really good bakers around me from central/eastern Europe. But none of them do rolls. It seems like it's not 'a thing' for them.

    I have to make do with freshly made caraway sourdough loaves and the like. I struggle through as best I can...
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,181
    ydoethur said:

    Swords or pistols?
    Davy Crockett’s at half a mile - the woke, vegan nuclear weapon. 20 ton minimum yield.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    Now seems like a good time to discuss the relative merits of different forms of proportional representation and Liberal Democrat policy creation processes.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,254
    Carnyx said:

    Keyboards surely.
    Mac vs PC perhaps?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,728
    edited March 2023
    A massive big PB fight is actually a good idea

    Settle all this shit once and for all

    So you think the d’Hondt mechanism is a sensible solution to the issue of constituency representation?

    KERPOW

    The first side to lose more than 50% of its proponents to death or severe incapacitation is deemed to be in the wrong, and is not allowed to mention its ideas for 36 hours
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,634
    MattW said:

    What do we pay for pheasants? I still have a couple left in the freezer from my Christmas Game Box from Aldi. I have now taken one out for this evening :smile: .

    Looking at my usual sources for kippers*, I see that Mallards are now at £4.99, which was 3 or £10 at Christmas 2022. Is that decent value, short of shooting it myself?

    * https://www.lancastersmokehouse.co.uk/collections/meats/products/oven-ready-wild-mallard
    It was about 7 to 10 quid for a whole pheasant last time I checked locally.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,309
    Stocky said:

    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
  • Leon said:

    A massive big PB fight is actually a good idea

    Settle all this shit once and for all

    So you think the d’Hondt mechanism is a sensible solution to the issue of constituency representation?

    KERPOW

    The first side to lose more than 50% of its proponents to death or severe incapacitation is deemed to have lost

    You'd need to hire a suitable venue, but the cost would be worth it. The event could perhaps be televised, and might even show a profit.

    Let's suggest it to Robert. It's would be far more interesting and effective than that stupid ban hammer of his.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,499
    edited March 2023
    ydoethur said:

    Murray Watts once said 'When somebody makes an angry comment to you, do not return in kind, but give him a soft answer. It is commanded by Holy Writ. But also, it makes him madder than anything else you could say.'
    I was once on a training course at work about conflict descalation and they said the best thing to do when somebody shouts at you is to reply softly and quietly because it is almost impossible to continue shouting at someone when they're talking softer than normal to you. They end up having to put much too much energy into continuing to yell and also just look stupid.

    It needs a lot of self-discipline, but it works really well.
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,962

    It's restricted the choice at one of my favourite pubs. And I am royally pissed off.

    That's what I object to.

    If someone tries and tells me what to do I am liable to do the exact opposite, and then turn it up to eleven to spite them and teach them a lesson.
    I think I ought to instruct you to vote Conservative at the next election. It is my duty.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    edited March 2023
    ohnotnow said:

    It was about 7 to 10 quid for a whole pheasant last time I checked locally.
    About 3.50 for a pair of pretty chunky breasts here. Specialist local game firm + community shop.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,537
    Leon said:

    The Boys is excellent. I am running out of tv drama to watch in the Kok but that’s kept me going

    Barbarians Season Two is, by contrast, beyond poor. It’s like a Parody of Wokeness but written by Woke people. In the 14th minute of season 2 episode 1 there’s a handy Carthaginian princess to be black and female and powerful and in minute 36 it turns out the brutal Roman general is actually having a tragic gay affair with the Teutonic chieftain

    Then I gave up
    Shame, I enjoyed the first season.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507
    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507
    edited March 2023
    Leon said:

    A massive big PB fight is actually a good idea

    Settle all this shit once and for all

    So you think the d’Hondt mechanism is a sensible solution to the issue of constituency representation?

    KERPOW

    The first side to lose more than 50% of its proponents to death or severe incapacitation is deemed to be in the wrong, and is not allowed to mention its ideas for 36 hours

    Will the result be decided by AV?

    Edit - besides, that's a bad question. Nobody thinks the d'Hondt mechanism is sensible. It's the Verification Principle applied to politics.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    ydoethur said:

    Will the result be decided by AV?

    Edit - besides, that's a bad question. Nobody thinks the d'Hondt mechanism is sensible. It's the Verification Principle applied to politics.
    One might inquire, is it the d'Hondt version of Scottish Labour plus Scottish Liberal Democrats 1997? Or some other variant? One needs to know.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    It revealed he is a twat, Williamson is a bigger twat and Johnson is actually insane.

    So it didn't really tell us anything we didn't already know.

    Congrats on the new job, hope it's going well.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,537

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    He and Williamson were rude about teachers, he doesn't like Rishi, some measures were brought in for political reasons not health reasons, and Boris watches a lot of news.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,537
    #JustRelax people. It's very rarely worth losing your shit on the internet.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,161
    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Challenges to duels, a fetish about pheasants, a Brexit tinged obsession with yesterday's man, it all looks pretty normal to me.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,817
    Not heard of venison being woke tbh, it's not a meat I particularly enjoy but never thought of it as particularly woke or otherwise. What makes it so?
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366
    MaxPB said:

    That's people's personal choice at that point which is what should have been after lockdown 1. You're supposed to be a liberal.
    Liberalism is based on the no harm principle. Spreading a deadly virus to people, to the point when healthcare won't be available, breaks that.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,271
    Dura_Ace said:

    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,817

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Nothing we didn't already know. Confirmed that Boris is thick and easily bamboozled by big numbers and scientists with an agenda. Rishi not so easily convinced.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,309

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Dura_Ace said:

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    Sunak is too boring for kompromat.
    The man likes Coca Cola and Star Wars. His hinterland stretches to the end of his walk-in, under-lit, wardrobe
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,035

    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Perhaps it was empty because they knew "Mr Angry" was coming in.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,537
    Dura_Ace said:

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    The man's got 18 months left in office at most, no need for kompomat to hasten things.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366

    Sunak is too boring for kompromat.
    The man likes Coca Cola and Star Wars. His hinterland stretches to the end of his walk-in, under-lit, wardrobe
    Nothing wrong with that.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    MaxPB said:

    Nothing we didn't already know. Confirmed that Boris is thick and easily bamboozled by big numbers and scientists with an agenda. Rishi not so easily convinced.
    I’m not ready to give Rishi the plaudits on that.
    He is driven by fiscal, rather than liberal, motivations.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    That Isabel Oakeshott isn’t to be trusted by sources?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,161
    ydoethur said:

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,035

    Because these people are trying to dictate my choices and push their own world view on me.

    Don't try and deny it.
    FFS just go to a different pub.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,612

    Quite right. Lockdown was great. I missed the pub bit, but it saved me a fortune on season tickets.
    Yup. Lockdown was fantastic for me. Worked at home. Saved a fortune on going out, I rarely drive to work so that didn’t save me much. Simply ordered my beers in and started making my own ginger beer and banana wine. One home shop from Tesco was just 40 mixed cans and bottles of beer.

    I also managed to catch up on loads of obscure series I had on DVD that I’d not had a chance to watch as well as converting my collection to MP4s.

  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    ydoethur said:

    It revealed he is a twat, Williamson is a bigger twat and Johnson is actually insane.

    So it didn't really tell us anything we didn't already know.

    Congrats on the new job, hope it's going well.
    Thanks.
    I will report on any wokery as I’m in a slightly more corporate environment than before.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,537
    I actually think we are closer than we used to be on this point, though pearl clutching over offence still remains - and it is far from a merely liberal phenomenom. Snowflakes come in all shapes and sizes after all.


    At some point, liberals and “progressives” are just going to have to admit that nobody - and that includes minorities who may experience prejudice - do not have a right not to be offended. Not to experience hate? Yes. Not to experience discrimination? Yes. Offence? No


    https://twitter.com/residentadviser/status/1631923668132540419?cxt=HHwWhsC9ucH74KUtAAAA
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,130

    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    BigG will win just by sitting on everyone.

    In my mind he is an enormous 8ft Welsh grizzly bear type thing. Generally benign, but...
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,634
    MaxPB said:

    Not heard of venison being woke tbh, it's not a meat I particularly enjoy but never thought of it as particularly woke or otherwise. What makes it so?

    Please, please don't ask.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,161
    Sandpit said:

    That Isabel Oakeshott isn’t to be trusted by sources?
    If that was news to Mr Hancock then he really was not fit to be SoS for anything. And hasn't he heard of injunctions, by the way?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507
    MaxPB said:

    Not heard of venison being woke tbh, it's not a meat I particularly enjoy but never thought of it as particularly woke or otherwise. What makes it so?

    Low carbon emissions, at a guess. Much more environmentally friendly.

    But honestly, not liking venison. You'll say you take your pizzas with pineapple next.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507
    DavidL said:

    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366

    I’m not a vegan and I don’t go to vegan/venison restaurants. I go to Wetherspoons.

    I honestly don’t see the problem.
    We live in a world where there is more variety and access to choice than at any time in human history. There are a lot of stupid woke people about but I don't need to talk to them, watch their media or visit their establishments. It feels like the people who get really angry at woke just don't like to be exposed to philosophies they disagree with.

    (There are of course other elements of woke which I find opposition to a lot more reasonable.)
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    edited March 2023
    WillG said:

    Nothing wrong with that.
    Yes there is. His cultural curiosity seems to have stopped aged about 13.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507

    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    Blimey. Somebody's wearing not so much the Bishop's shoes as his entire regalia.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,130
    ydoethur said:

    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    Venison Burgers have loads of other crap thrown in to make them edible.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,161
    ydoethur said:

    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    I presume that I am not on it? We used to have it on Christmas day (en croute) as a tastier alternative to turkey. Kept moist it is delicious.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507

    Yes there is. His cultural curiosity seems to have stopped aged about 13.
    So about three years ago? :smile:
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    ydoethur said:

    Blimey. Somebody's wearing not so much the Bishop's shoes as his entire regalia.
    Don't know that expression. Sounds a useful one ...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507
    edited March 2023
    DavidL said:

    I presume that I am not on it? We used to have it on Christmas day (en croute) as a tastier alternative to turkey. Kept moist it is delicious.
    *scrubs DavidL off the list as he redeems himself*

    *substitutes @Eabhal *
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Eabhal said:

    Venison Burgers have loads of other crap thrown in to make them edible.
    I like venison burgers. Much gamier, and maybe richer in iron? Hard to find in the US.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,634
    Carnyx said:

    About 3.50 for a pair of pretty chunky breasts here. Specialist local game firm + community shop.
    Don't think I've seen pheasant breast on sale here for a long while. But a quick look at a 'fancy' butchers website has them £7 for a pair. I'm being robbed!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507
    Carnyx said:

    Don't know that expression. Sounds a useful one ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiawHyLKnks
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,612
    rcs1000 said:

    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    rcs1000 said:

    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    We had venison last night, it’s lovely. I like food for what it is, Including venison, irrespective of the people who promote it.

    Also, on the bad people make good music point, rock n roll part 2 by Gary Glitter is a fantastic track. You have to detach the person from the art.

    I watched the Tales of the Unexpected episode “the flypaper” this week. Ronald Dahl presenting it seemed a kindly uncle figure rather than the virulent bigot he was. Mind you the story wasn’t his. But many of his stories were fabulous.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366

    Yes there is. His cultural curiosity seems to have stopped aged about 13.
    If someone finds what they like at 13 and happily enjoys that the rest of his life, while following the law, being economically productive and raising kids into decent human beings, then that's great. Its better than a big chunk of the population.

    Stop being such an elitist arse. Not everyone needs to delight in Ethiopian food or Sumatran poetry. You are doing the same thing as Casino Royale, being so upset that others have different preferences to you that don't affect you one bit.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,917

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    As far as I can tell, the most dramatic revelation was that he had got some kind of official clearance to release all kinds of government-related correspondence to a journalist with the idea of making himself look good and/or making himself some money.

    And then he whined to high heaven when she published it for her own purposes.

    Generally the most interesting Hancock-related revelations remain:
    (1) that a pint is very nearly an armful and
    (2) that Magna Carta was a brave Hungarian girl peasant girl who played a crucial part in medieval licensing law.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    Eabhal said:

    Venison Burgers have loads of other crap thrown in to make them edible.
    You do need the pork fat to keep them not-dry and stop them falling apart.

    Quite like making excess venison stew and having half reheated as a curry the next day, which also helps moisturise.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    Chris said:

    As far as I can tell, the most dramatic revelation was that he had got some kind of official clearance to release all kinds of government-related correspondence to a journalist with the idea of making himself look good and/or making himself some money.

    And then he whined to high heaven when she published it for her own purposes.

    Generally the most interesting Hancock-related revelations remain:
    (1) that a pint is very nearly an armful and
    (2) that Magna Carta was a brave Hungarian girl peasant girl who played a crucial part in medieval licensing law.
    He had official clearance?!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,614
    Carnyx said:

    You do need the pork fat to keep them not-dry and stop them falling apart.

    Quite like making excess venison stew and having half reheated as a curry the next day, which also helps moisturise.
    And there was me thinking you use Oil of Ulay.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,612

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Only Hancocks gullibility in trusting Oakshott.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,685
    edited March 2023
    Eabhal said:

    BigG will win just by sitting on everyone.

    In my mind he is an enormous 8ft Welsh grizzly bear type thing. Generally benign, but...
    I've been misreading BigG for BFG intermitently for years.

    Edit: I'll flatten you all, obviously.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    MattW said:

    And there was me thinking you use Oil of Ulay.
    Nah. Avon Skin So Soft, until Tisos came up with something else for the midges.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,156

    It's Woke. You're a child I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    I'm sorry that venison has been ruined for you. That's awfully tragic. If you're ever in West Cork there's a great pig farm around here that makes the most delicious marinated pork chops.

    Does it ruin it for you if I tell you that they only got the pigs to feed them the waste whey from their cheese production?
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,674



    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    etc.

    We all get some anonymous poster being rude to us at times, and we get over it. But your post is profoundly and unreasonably unpleasant about someone who has said they have mental health difficulties. You normally seem better than that. You might on reflection consider apologising?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,339
    ydoethur said:

    Blimey. Somebody's wearing not so much the Bishop's shoes as his entire regalia.
    Ironic, given how woke the average bishop is accused of being.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,917
    Carnyx said:

    He had official clearance?!
    Matt or Tony?
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,276
    edited March 2023
    Unpicking the assertion that venison is "woke" has occupied me for longer than I expected this afternoon.

    Aside from an award for extending this now-useless term to new, non-human boundaries I think where CR is coming from is this: being confronted with a menu where the choice is either 1) plant-based (why advertise that FFS. Just give each dish its title?) or 2) meat only from a source which can be regarded as "poncey" = a combined offering almost calculated to annoy on a mass scale.

    So I think it's the virtue-signally, pretentious menu that annoys rather than venison per se.

    Sorted that out. No thanks needed.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,507
    Carnyx said:

    He had official clearance?!
    You're surprised? This government gave Gavin Williamson and Huawei security clearances.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    edited March 2023
    Chris said:

    Matt or Tony?
    Mr M. Hancock.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,309
    edited March 2023
    Carnyx said:

    Don't know that expression. Sounds a useful one ...
    It's the punchline to a joke about a nun getting fucked by a bishop. Everyone tells the nun she's got out of the wrong side of the bed and she gets really arsey. Except, and here is the resolution of the liminal and subliminal narratives that is the basis of all humour, they are being literal not figurative and she really did get out of the wrong side of the bed because SHE IS WEARING THE BISHOP'S SHOES.

    Pretty sure I've heard Russ Abbott tell it with no great elan.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    WillG said:

    If someone finds what they like at 13 and happily enjoys that the rest of his life, while following the law, being economically productive and raising kids into decent human beings, then that's great. Its better than a big chunk of the population.

    Stop being such an elitist arse. Not everyone needs to delight in Ethiopian food or Sumatran poetry. You are doing the same thing as Casino Royale, being so upset that others have different preferences to you that don't affect you one bit.
    I’m sorry, I don’t agree.
    People are better leaders if they a wider hinterland they can access.

    Sunak is a cultural man-child, and it’s one of the most/least interesting things about him. He may be the least culturally curious PM the country has ever had.
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