Mr. kle4, attacking nuance as weakness is something Thucydides refers to in regards to the rising factionalism and internal dissent in cities between the democrats and oligarchs (NB the democrats weren't necessarily good. cf the Athenians executing successful leaders).
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
'“When Kemi got a new department, Michael [Gove] encouraged her to ask for Sue as her permanent secretary and she was only too keen to do so.”
But it appears that the most senior civil servant in the Government Cabinet Secretary Simon Case had other plans.
According to sources he is alleged to have got involved in the recruitment process and vetoed Ms Gray’s candidacy on a technicality because she was “not of the right grade to be promoted to permanent secretary".
The impact of this was devastating.
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”'
And if your face doesn't fit - then it's time to get out.
On the subject of Boris Johnson standing in a ‘safe’’ constituency, perhaps someone should remind him of the fate of Neil Hamilton in Tatton. It’s happened once, it could happen again!
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Rishi is exceptional.
As one of the very few in the government who's not a complete idiot ? Yes, I'll grant you that.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
It's not absurd to think that her future prospects in the civil service were blighted by having conducted an enquiry which embarrassed the government, even if you don't believe a word the Express prints.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Rishi is exceptional.
As one of the very few in the government who's not a complete idiot ? Yes, I'll grant you that.
Why is everyone whining about junior Doctors asking for a decent pay rise?
They've had huge real terms pay cuts over the last 10 years. Conditions in the NHS are rubbish. Australia beckons.
The PB cohort should have a keen interest in retaining as many of these staff as possible, especially given the UK's upcoming demographic timebomb.
Giving the junior doctors an above inflation pay rise is inflationary.
This doesn’t mean they don’t need or deserve such a rise.
Both can be true at once.
I’ve noticed a curious modern phenomenon of
1) X is nice/moral/right 2) Therefore X can have no negative side effects. Saying it has negative side effects is evidence the sayer is evil.
Everything has side effects. All decisions are a balance between the positives and the negatives.
I'm not making a fairness argument. I'm just pointing out that the NHS is in ever deeper trouble if it can't retain staff. The same argument allies there as in the private sector.
My gf just got her contract in from the hospital in Melbourne. Very nice.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
It's not absurd to think that her future prospects in the civil service were blighted by having conducted an enquiry which embarrassed the government, even if you don't believe a word the Express prints.
This is also worth a read: essentially, the union rep point of view.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
Why is everyone whining about junior Doctors asking for a decent pay rise?
They've had huge real terms pay cuts over the last 10 years. Conditions in the NHS are rubbish. Australia beckons.
The PB cohort should have a keen interest in retaining as many of these staff as possible, especially given the UK's upcoming demographic timebomb.
Giving the junior doctors an above inflation pay rise is inflationary.
This doesn’t mean they don’t need or deserve such a rise.
Both can be true at once.
I’ve noticed a curious modern phenomenon of
1) X is nice/moral/right 2) Therefore X can have no negative side effects. Saying it has negative side effects is evidence the sayer is evil.
Everything has side effects. All decisions are a balance between the positives and the negatives.
I'm not making a fairness argument. I'm just pointing out that the NHS is in ever deeper trouble if it can't retain staff. The same argument allies there as in the private sector.
My gf just got her contract in from the hospital in Melbourne. Very nice.
Don't hit your arse on the door on the way out
It's people like you she spends her shifts looking after.
On the subject of Boris Johnson standing in a ‘safe’’ constituency, perhaps someone should remind him of the fate of Neil Hamilton in Tatton. It’s happened once, it could happen again!
Twice, at least, Patrick Gordon-Walker? Although I doubt Labour or the LDs would field a candidate quite like Peter Griffiths
Mr. kle4, attacking nuance as weakness is something Thucydides refers to in regards to the rising factionalism and internal dissent in cities between the democrats and oligarchs (NB the democrats weren't necessarily good. cf the Athenians executing successful leaders).
To be fair, when it came to populist demagoguery, Athens led the world.
Why is everyone whining about junior Doctors asking for a decent pay rise?
They've had huge real terms pay cuts over the last 10 years. Conditions in the NHS are rubbish. Australia beckons.
The PB cohort should have a keen interest in retaining as many of these staff as possible, especially given the UK's upcoming demographic timebomb.
Giving the junior doctors an above inflation pay rise is inflationary.
This doesn’t mean they don’t need or deserve such a rise.
Both can be true at once.
I’ve noticed a curious modern phenomenon of
1) X is nice/moral/right 2) Therefore X can have no negative side effects. Saying it has negative side effects is evidence the sayer is evil.
Everything has side effects. All decisions are a balance between the positives and the negatives.
Nuance is for the weak and cowardly!
The long term solution to medical staff issues needs to be something like -
1) Trust level pay deals. Create an actual pay market. 2) Training 100% of the required number of nurses and doctors. 3) Contracts, conditions as best practise in the 21st cent. The existing system seems to be built on abusing junior staff. And not much better for the senior! 4) Pay negotiated by the methods used in a number of industries - see 3)
Hmmm, 3 seems to be mental, £120K a year for Mon - Fri 9-5 and free to do private and double or treble your cash. My wife had a 5-10 minute appointment recently at £270, not bad work if you can get it.
Even then celebrities were paying a quarter mill as a deposit for going up into space, estimated to begin flights 'by end of 2014'. To some extent, Branson was sold a pup in that the original SpaceShipOne couldn't scale up (ironic given it was built by a company called 'Scaled Composites') but as he tries to stay in the billionaire space club with Elon and Jeff, he has doubled down on the 'flights by end of next year' messaging for ten years and at some point the can can't be kicked down the road any further.
It's comparing apples and oranges I know, and the ambition and risk profiles are totally different, but from Kennedy's speech to footprints on the Moon was 8 years. Next year (2024) it will be 20 years since SpaceShipOne won the Ansari X Prize and we were promised rides to space.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Rishi is exceptional.
As one of the very few in the government who's not a complete idiot ? Yes, I'll grant you that.
But he’s rule breaking Rishi.
The one that required incompetence and subservience to BigDog for promotion ?
I'm not going to vote for the guy, but you have to accept he's a step up from his predecessors.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
You seriously think that is sensible? She was going for a job in the CS with Kemi Badenoch and was turned down on a technicality, if the Express is correct. That's whem *anyone* sane starts applying for jobs outside.
FPT - @Leon had it right when he said all this stuff about crown jewels, Elgin Marbles, and Diego Garcia, slavery reparations etc is feeding into a wider narrative that Britain has lost confidence in itself, is consumed by guilt, and in irrevocable decline and thus everything is up for discussion for those who shout loudly enough, usually for domestic consumption. So it's no wonder people are queueing up to pick at the carcass to see what they can get. Hence, Argentina and the Falklands.
Government need to grow a pair, up investment in the foreign office and ministry of defence, hold our heads high on the international stage, and, diplomatically, tell everyone who wants a piece of us to fuck off.
Sadly, this time there is no Margaret Thatcher to tell them to go jump in a lake
No, but there is SKS and labour who are already open to slavery reparations, climate reparations, and much more.
Mr. kle4, attacking nuance as weakness is something Thucydides refers to in regards to the rising factionalism and internal dissent in cities between the democrats and oligarchs (NB the democrats weren't necessarily good. cf the Athenians executing successful leaders).
To be fair, when it came to populist demagoguery, Athens led the world.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
You seriously think that is sensible? She was going for a job in the CS with Kemi Badenoch and was turned down on a technicality, if the Express is correct. That's whem *anyone* sane starts applying for jobs outside.
The cabinet office are investigating the circumstances of her resignation and if that is true then she will be able to join Labour no doubt with a few months gardening leave
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
You seriously think that is sensible? She was going for a job in the CS with Kemi Badenoch and was turned down on a technicality, if the Express is correct. That's whem *anyone* sane starts applying for jobs outside.
The cabinet office are investigating the circumstances of her resignation and if that is true then she will be able to join Labour no doubt with a few months gardening leave
Well, I hope she is a member of FDA. She'll need it.
And of course she has excellent character references from Johnson B, Gove M, Dorries N et aliis.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
I don't believe your are reading Starmer/Gray right at all.
I get the impression it is another straw for you to clutch, just like Currygate.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
I don't believe your are reading Starmer/Gray right at all.
I get the impression it is another straw for you to clutch, just like Currygate.
Places at med schools are massively over subscribed. Pay and conditions are not putting people off wanting to become doctors.
Not actually true on either point.
75% of applicants with the right A levels or equivalent get a place, albeit often at second attempt.
Retention of postgraduate medical staff (like nurses and teachers) is terrible with multiple vacancies across rotas.
Incidentally we are finding very high dropout rates in the medical school now, particularly those in the post covid A level year that never did the exams. This is a national phenomenon, not sure if the same on other university courses.
Indeed expanding medical schools requires more of us grognards in order to teach and train them. Better pay us to stay on...
On topic - Johnson’s squirming, desperate, disingenuous, angry TV interventions yesterday told us everything: he is finished as a serious politician. He will never lead the Tories again, let alone be PM. He may escape a sanction tough enough to cause a by-election, but it’s over for him. The lies, the grift and the hubris have finally struck him down. It is magnificent to see. And very good news for the country (and for the Tories if they are smart enough to realise).
On another note, does anyone seriously believe that Simon Case is a neutral civil servant? Seriously??
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
You seriously think that is sensible? She was going for a job in the CS with Kemi Badenoch and was turned down on a technicality, if the Express is correct. That's whem *anyone* sane starts applying for jobs outside.
To be fair to Simon Case (why?) the phrase if the Expressi is correct should have the IF in capitals.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Rishi is exceptional.
As one of the very few in the government who's not a complete idiot ? Yes, I'll grant you that.
But he’s rule breaking Rishi.
The one that required incompetence and subservience to BigDog for promotion ?
I'm not going to vote for the guy, but you have to accept he's a step up from his predecessors.
In the same way that stepping in some dog poo is preferable to swimming in a septic tank.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
There is a particular delusion about that without lockdown everything would have carried on normally as if there wasn't a massive fatal or debilitating viral pandemic. It was the bloody virus that was the problem, not the attempt at controlling it. Just look at Brazil to see what happens when government just decides to ignore a pandemic.
Brazil, which implemented fewer lockdown measures, had lower excess deaths than Ecuador, Bolivia or Peru, which were far stricter.
As Johnson said virus was only a danger to the old and sick whilst fixy thinks it is akin to the black death.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
I don't believe your are reading Starmer/Gray right at all.
I get the impression it is another straw for you to clutch, just like Currygate.
Why is everyone whining about junior Doctors asking for a decent pay rise?
They've had huge real terms pay cuts over the last 10 years. Conditions in the NHS are rubbish. Australia beckons.
The PB cohort should have a keen interest in retaining as many of these staff as possible, especially given the UK's upcoming demographic timebomb.
Giving the junior doctors an above inflation pay rise is inflationary.
This doesn’t mean they don’t need or deserve such a rise.
Both can be true at once.
I’ve noticed a curious modern phenomenon of
1) X is nice/moral/right 2) Therefore X can have no negative side effects. Saying it has negative side effects is evidence the sayer is evil.
Everything has side effects. All decisions are a balance between the positives and the negatives.
The point is that people need to be paid what is needed to recruit and retain them. It does not matter if that is inflationary.
The current wave of inflation has been caused purely by external factors, not by excessive pay increases. That's just a pretext to try and hold down wages.
Why is everyone whining about junior Doctors asking for a decent pay rise?
They've had huge real terms pay cuts over the last 10 years. Conditions in the NHS are rubbish. Australia beckons.
The PB cohort should have a keen interest in retaining as many of these staff as possible, especially given the UK's upcoming demographic timebomb.
Giving the junior doctors an above inflation pay rise is inflationary.
This doesn’t mean they don’t need or deserve such a rise.
Both can be true at once.
I’ve noticed a curious modern phenomenon of
1) X is nice/moral/right 2) Therefore X can have no negative side effects. Saying it has negative side effects is evidence the sayer is evil.
Everything has side effects. All decisions are a balance between the positives and the negatives.
Nuance is for the weak and cowardly!
The long term solution to medical staff issues needs to be something like -
1) Trust level pay deals. Create an actual pay market. 2) Training 100% of the required number of nurses and doctors. 3) Contracts, conditions as best practise in the 21st cent. The existing system seems to be built on abusing junior staff. And not much better for the senior! 4) Pay negotiated by the methods used in a number of industries - see 3)
Hmmm, 3 seems to be mental, £120K a year for Mon - Fri 9-5 and free to do private and double or treble your cash. My wife had a 5-10 minute appointment recently at £270, not bad work if you can get it.
You are not paying for 10 minutes of expertise, you are paying for 20 years of expertise and experience.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
You seriously think that is sensible? She was going for a job in the CS with Kemi Badenoch and was turned down on a technicality, if the Express is correct. That's whem *anyone* sane starts applying for jobs outside.
To be fair to Simon Case (why?) the phrase if the Expressi is correct should have the IF in capitals.
Even so, it is the Express and not, say, the Grauniad. Which says something. Though I'm not quite sure why they are doing it.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
There is a particular delusion about that without lockdown everything would have carried on normally as if there wasn't a massive fatal or debilitating viral pandemic. It was the bloody virus that was the problem, not the attempt at controlling it. Just look at Brazil to see what happens when government just decides to ignore a pandemic.
Brazil, which implemented fewer lockdown measures, had lower excess deaths than Ecuador, Bolivia or Peru, which were far stricter.
As Johnson said virus was only a danger to the old and sick whilst fixy thinks it is akin to the black death.
Why is everyone whining about junior Doctors asking for a decent pay rise?
They've had huge real terms pay cuts over the last 10 years. Conditions in the NHS are rubbish. Australia beckons.
The PB cohort should have a keen interest in retaining as many of these staff as possible, especially given the UK's upcoming demographic timebomb.
Giving the junior doctors an above inflation pay rise is inflationary.
This doesn’t mean they don’t need or deserve such a rise.
Both can be true at once.
I’ve noticed a curious modern phenomenon of
1) X is nice/moral/right 2) Therefore X can have no negative side effects. Saying it has negative side effects is evidence the sayer is evil.
Everything has side effects. All decisions are a balance between the positives and the negatives.
Nuance is for the weak and cowardly!
The long term solution to medical staff issues needs to be something like -
1) Trust level pay deals. Create an actual pay market. 2) Training 100% of the required number of nurses and doctors. 3) Contracts, conditions as best practise in the 21st cent. The existing system seems to be built on abusing junior staff. And not much better for the senior! 4) Pay negotiated by the methods used in a number of industries - see 3)
Hmmm, 3 seems to be mental, £120K a year for Mon - Fri 9-5 and free to do private and double or treble your cash. My wife had a 5-10 minute appointment recently at £270, not bad work if you can get it.
You are not paying for 10 minutes of expertise, you are paying for 20 years of expertise and experience.
In the immortal words of Red Adair:
Lol i love the way you try to justify sheer greed.
I presume Boris will take a similar view of parties as Bill Clinton did on sexual relations. Odd of Simon Case to be so obstructive to Sue Gray getting a permanent secretary job since he himself was plucked from relative obscurity.
Does Rishi get a boost from the NI deal? It seems to have shifted the polls a bit but the market reaction has been fairly tepid given how much businesses were panicking about the protocol bill. Still we have the opportunity to improve relations with the EU now around visas and other sensible areas.
Just a point on the privileges committee there are 4 conservative mps out of 7 members
Would they dare vote in favour of BigDog?
Shouldn’t that depend on the evidence ?
Personal integrity is more important than party loyalty.
As the evidence would seem already to be in the public domain, and from what we have seen appears damning. The defence is "despite the bottles of champagne on the table, a glass in my hand, Government Ministers singing to Waterloo and a couple of work colleagues inflagrante on the Lulu Lytle sofa, I was unaware I was at a party".
It would appear to be an easy call for the non-partisan.
Australian men: all they talk about is sport, and are chippy.
Australian women: a bit chippy/bolshy and whilst they don't talk about sport, there's not much else they do talk about except work and Wokery, if from Melbourne and Canberra.
Conclusions: Australia is boring and Australians have no depth.
Just a point on the privileges committee there are 4 conservative mps out of 7 members
One of them is Charles Walker, who has laid into Boris more effectively than most opposition MPs, and is standing down at the next GE. Another is Bernard Jenkin, who though unpredictable has given Boris a hard time at the Liaison Committee. So I'm not sure the Tory majority will help him much.
Australian men: all they talk about is sport, and are chippy.
Australian women: a bit chippy/bolshy and whilst they don't talk about sport, there's not much else they do talk about except work and Wokery, if from Melbourne and Canberra.
Conclusions: Australia is boring and Australians have no depth.
What on earth did you do? Say they ought to be grateful their g-g-g-grandparents got the Tolpuddle Martyrs treatment?
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
'“When Kemi got a new department, Michael [Gove] encouraged her to ask for Sue as her permanent secretary and she was only too keen to do so.”
But it appears that the most senior civil servant in the Government Cabinet Secretary Simon Case had other plans.
According to sources he is alleged to have got involved in the recruitment process and vetoed Ms Gray’s candidacy on a technicality because she was “not of the right grade to be promoted to permanent secretary".
The impact of this was devastating.
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”'
And if your face doesn't fit - then it's time to get out.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
'“When Kemi got a new department, Michael [Gove] encouraged her to ask for Sue as her permanent secretary and she was only too keen to do so.”
But it appears that the most senior civil servant in the Government Cabinet Secretary Simon Case had other plans.
According to sources he is alleged to have got involved in the recruitment process and vetoed Ms Gray’s candidacy on a technicality because she was “not of the right grade to be promoted to permanent secretary".
The impact of this was devastating.
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”'
And if your face doesn't fit - then it's time to get out.
Case seems oddly young for his position yet has multiple cock ups to his name. Weird.
Convinced my wife a few months ago to watch DS9, she's not hugely into sci-fi but I sold it as a character drama more than anything else. She's really enjoying it, we got to Far Beyond the Stars (captain Sisko transports back to 1950s segregated America in a vision) this morning after putting Jen down for her nap. She was actually amazed at how good it is and how relevant it is today.
What I think has impressed her most over the whole run is how well having a black captain was done. The reason she agreed was because she watched Discovery originally and found it merely ok so I suggested we go back to peak ST which for me is DS9. Coming back to this morning's episode she thinks if it was released today it would get lauded as one of the best TV episodes made. Have to say I agree, it really is brilliant.
Just a point on the privileges committee there are 4 conservative mps out of 7 members
Would they dare vote in favour of BigDog?
Shouldn’t that depend on the evidence ?
Personal integrity is more important than party loyalty.
As the evidence would seem already to be in the public domain, and from what we have seen appears damning. The defence is "despite the bottles of champagne on the table, a glass in my hand, Government Ministers singing to Waterloo and a couple of work colleagues inflagrante on the Lulu Lytle sofa, I was unaware I was at a party".
It would appear to be an easy call for the non-partisan.
I believe the term is "having discussions". Ugandan discussions, to be sure, but discussions.
Australian men: all they talk about is sport, and are chippy.
Australian women: a bit chippy/bolshy and whilst they don't talk about sport, there's not much else they do talk about except work and Wokery, if from Melbourne and Canberra.
Conclusions: Australia is boring and Australians have no depth.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
'“When Kemi got a new department, Michael [Gove] encouraged her to ask for Sue as her permanent secretary and she was only too keen to do so.”
But it appears that the most senior civil servant in the Government Cabinet Secretary Simon Case had other plans.
According to sources he is alleged to have got involved in the recruitment process and vetoed Ms Gray’s candidacy on a technicality because she was “not of the right grade to be promoted to permanent secretary".
The impact of this was devastating.
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”'
And if your face doesn't fit - then it's time to get out.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
'“When Kemi got a new department, Michael [Gove] encouraged her to ask for Sue as her permanent secretary and she was only too keen to do so.”
But it appears that the most senior civil servant in the Government Cabinet Secretary Simon Case had other plans.
According to sources he is alleged to have got involved in the recruitment process and vetoed Ms Gray’s candidacy on a technicality because she was “not of the right grade to be promoted to permanent secretary".
The impact of this was devastating.
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”'
And if your face doesn't fit - then it's time to get out.
Case seems oddly young for his position yet has multiple cock ups to his name. Weird.
Also surprised by the tone of his communications in the Whatsapps, but I haven't looked at many, so it may be unfair. But it doesn't come over very Sir Humphrey.
Prince Andrew demands mansion 'fit for a king' and disgraced royal wants 'top role'
Duke of York is refusing to leave the palatial 30-bedroom Windsor home after King Charles informed him of planned budget cuts to the royal finances….
… Andrew, 63, has even offered to run some of the most prestigious estates in the Royal Family’s portfolio, including the late Queen’s beloved Balmoral Castle in Aberdeenshire.
Sources have revealed how the Duke pleaded with the King for a “top role”, believing the responsibility and prestige with running the properties would offer him a way back into the fold.
I didn't know the D of Y was an experienced rural estate manager. Change of career at the age of 63? Not impossible, but ...
I'd say give him a try at the estate management job, but still make him move to Frogmore Cottage. He's not exactly asking to be Emperor of the known universe is he? It's important for him to have some sort of occupation to keep him busy.
I presume Boris will take a similar view of parties as Bill Clinton did on sexual relations. Odd of Simon Case to be so obstructive to Sue Gray getting a permanent secretary job since he himself was plucked from relative obscurity.
Does Rishi get a boost from the NI deal? It seems to have shifted the polls a bit but the market reaction has been fairly tepid given how much businesses were panicking about the protocol bill. Still we have the opportunity to improve relations with the EU now around visas and other sensible areas.
Rishi played a blinder with NI, but Boris and Sir Keir were quick to move the story on so it had no time whatsoever to sink in. We're back to normality.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Agree. Boris too. Hancock the worst, but that seems to be the point.
Australian men: all they talk about is sport, and are chippy.
Australian women: a bit chippy/bolshy and whilst they don't talk about sport, there's not much else they do talk about except work and Wokery, if from Melbourne and Canberra.
Conclusions: Australia is boring and Australians have no depth.
I presume Boris will take a similar view of parties as Bill Clinton did on sexual relations. Odd of Simon Case to be so obstructive to Sue Gray getting a permanent secretary job since he himself was plucked from relative obscurity.
Does Rishi get a boost from the NI deal? It seems to have shifted the polls a bit but the market reaction has been fairly tepid given how much businesses were panicking about the protocol bill. Still we have the opportunity to improve relations with the EU now around visas and other sensible areas.
Rishi played a blinder with NI, but Boris and Sir Keir were quick to move the story on so it had no time whatsoever to sink in. We're back to normality.
Smart Tories will not have expected more than they got in terms of a poll boost. The NI agreement is part of a process, not an end in itself. If Sunak can continue to deliver positives over a period of time then there is a chance the gap could close. After all, Labour hasn’t had big leads for that long. However, he needs the partygate and lockdown stuff to go away and for the Johnson loyalists to realise just how damaging their man is. That may be a tall order.
Convinced my wife a few months ago to watch DS9, she's not hugely into sci-fi but I sold it as a character drama more than anything else. She's really enjoying it, we got to Far Beyond the Stars (captain Sisko transports back to 1950s segregated America in a vision) this morning after putting Jen down for her nap. She was actually amazed at how good it is and how relevant it is today.
What I think has impressed her most over the whole run is how well having a black captain was done. The reason she agreed was because she watched Discovery originally and found it merely ok so I suggested we go back to peak ST which for me is DS9. Coming back to this morning's episode she thinks if it was released today it would get lauded as one of the best TV episodes made. Have to say I agree, it really is brilliant.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Agree. Boris too. Hancock the worst, but that seems to be the point.
Boris doesn't at all, he is way too easily convinced by Hancock and the lockdown loving scientists. If he'd backed Rishi and stood up to the scientists and Hancock we'd have avoided lockdowns 2 and 3.
There were six council by-elections on Thursday (one of the three counting on Friday took a long time, so I wasn't able to post yesterday)
Labour held in Oxford and Oxfordshire despite a strong Independent Labour also held in Newcastle; the turnout was extremely low, possibly because it's such a safe ward, but the LibDems and Greens will take some comfort from a numerical increase in their vote, and hence a decent percentage increase. Conservatives held in Staffordshire and Tamworth, but both saw a good swing towards Labour. Tamworth required a recount, and the significant vote for an Independent may have help the Cons survive there. The only gain of the night was in Kent, where the Greens took a seat off the Cons.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Agree. Boris too. Hancock the worst, but that seems to be the point.
Boris doesn't at all, he is way too easily convinced by Hancock and the lockdown loving scientists. If he'd backed Rishi and stood up to the scientists and Hancock we'd have avoided lockdowns 2 and 3.
All lockdowns were a waste of time when the elderly are so ungrateful and continue to fuck us over.
I think in hindsight we should have locked the over 60s and very vulnerable indoors but everyone else should have been free. I naively assumed we’d get some kind of gratitude or sympathy for what we did but no we just get fucked over again and again. Sick of it.
Just a point on the privileges committee there are 4 conservative mps out of 7 members
Would they dare vote in favour of BigDog?
They might well. The impact on the party of him not taking his punishment could influence them subconsciously. Though in my experience people on panels like that tend to be decent at putting aside party considerations. Often to the annoyance of their party colleagues.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Agree. Boris too. Hancock the worst, but that seems to be the point.
Boris doesn't at all, he is way too easily convinced by Hancock and the lockdown loving scientists. If he'd backed Rishi and stood up to the scientists and Hancock we'd have avoided lockdowns 2 and 3.
All lockdowns were a waste of time when the elderly are so ungrateful and continue to fuck us over.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Agree. Boris too. Hancock the worst, but that seems to be the point.
Boris doesn't at all, he is way too easily convinced by Hancock and the lockdown loving scientists. If he'd backed Rishi and stood up to the scientists and Hancock we'd have avoided lockdowns 2 and 3.
All lockdowns were a waste of time when the elderly are so ungrateful and continue to fuck us over.
Indeed, my support for lockdowns ended in May 2020, everything after that was unnecessary, we shouldn't have spent any additional money on it, businesses should have stayed fully open and people should have been free to do as they pleased.
The scientists and Hancock conspired to put the country into a neverending lockdown based on bullshit data and the fool PM fell for it because he can't do maths or interrogate data.
Even then celebrities were paying a quarter mill as a deposit for going up into space, estimated to begin flights 'by end of 2014'. To some extent, Branson was sold a pup in that the original SpaceShipOne couldn't scale up (ironic given it was built by a company called 'Scaled Composites') but as he tries to stay in the billionaire space club with Elon and Jeff, he has doubled down on the 'flights by end of next year' messaging for ten years and at some point the can can't be kicked down the road any further.
It's comparing apples and oranges I know, and the ambition and risk profiles are totally different, but from Kennedy's speech to footprints on the Moon was 8 years. Next year (2024) it will be 20 years since SpaceShipOne won the Ansari X Prize and we were promised rides to space.
Fair enough, but the two companies are still linked (via Virgin Group) and share a lot of facilities, and (crucially) finance arrangements. Virgin Orbit was originally a side hustle to try to make some money / gain credibility whilst the tourism business kept being delayed.
Have to say Rishi seems to be coming out well from all of the WhatsApp leaks. Vindicated by his early anti lockdown stance and opposing the clearly power crazed Hancock and other DoH wankers who ruined everyone's lives.
Agree. Boris too. Hancock the worst, but that seems to be the point.
Boris doesn't at all, he is way too easily convinced by Hancock and the lockdown loving scientists. If he'd backed Rishi and stood up to the scientists and Hancock we'd have avoided lockdowns 2 and 3.
All lockdowns were a waste of time when the elderly are so ungrateful and continue to fuck us over.
I’m not! And I’m not!
You are one of the very few OKC. You get a pass and thanks from me
Convinced my wife a few months ago to watch DS9, she's not hugely into sci-fi but I sold it as a character drama more than anything else. She's really enjoying it, we got to Far Beyond the Stars (captain Sisko transports back to 1950s segregated America in a vision) this morning after putting Jen down for her nap. She was actually amazed at how good it is and how relevant it is today.
What I think has impressed her most over the whole run is how well having a black captain was done. The reason she agreed was because she watched Discovery originally and found it merely ok so I suggested we go back to peak ST which for me is DS9. Coming back to this morning's episode she thinks if it was released today it would get lauded as one of the best TV episodes made. Have to say I agree, it really is brilliant.
FPT - @Leon had it right when he said all this stuff about crown jewels, Elgin Marbles, and Diego Garcia, slavery reparations etc is feeding into a wider narrative that Britain has lost confidence in itself, is consumed by guilt, and in irrevocable decline and thus everything is up for discussion for those who shout loudly enough, usually for domestic consumption. So it's no wonder people are queueing up to pick at the carcass to see what they can get. Hence, Argentina and the Falklands.
Government need to grow a pair, up investment in the foreign office and ministry of defence, hold our heads high on the international stage, and, diplomatically, tell everyone who wants a piece of us to fuck off.
Sadly, this time there is no Margaret Thatcher to tell them to go jump in a lake
Maybe they need you or, better still, Judith Chalmers to do so.
Prince Andrew demands mansion 'fit for a king' and disgraced royal wants 'top role'
Duke of York is refusing to leave the palatial 30-bedroom Windsor home after King Charles informed him of planned budget cuts to the royal finances….
… Andrew, 63, has even offered to run some of the most prestigious estates in the Royal Family’s portfolio, including the late Queen’s beloved Balmoral Castle in Aberdeenshire.
Sources have revealed how the Duke pleaded with the King for a “top role”, believing the responsibility and prestige with running the properties would offer him a way back into the fold.
I didn't know the D of Y was an experienced rural estate manager. Change of career at the age of 63? Not impossible, but ...
I'd say give him a try at the estate management job, but still make him move to Frogmore Cottage. He's not exactly asking to be Emperor of the known universe is he? It's important for him to have some sort of occupation to keep him busy.
When I was at Uni, the Land Management students were the cream - rich and thick.
Convinced my wife a few months ago to watch DS9, she's not hugely into sci-fi but I sold it as a character drama more than anything else. She's really enjoying it, we got to Far Beyond the Stars (captain Sisko transports back to 1950s segregated America in a vision) this morning after putting Jen down for her nap. She was actually amazed at how good it is and how relevant it is today.
What I think has impressed her most over the whole run is how well having a black captain was done. The reason she agreed was because she watched Discovery originally and found it merely ok so I suggested we go back to peak ST which for me is DS9. Coming back to this morning's episode she thinks if it was released today it would get lauded as one of the best TV episodes made. Have to say I agree, it really is brilliant.
DS9 is amazing.
Also enjoying the new Picard. Why it took them until Season 3 to deliver what everyone wanted I don't know.
I presume Boris will take a similar view of parties as Bill Clinton did on sexual relations. Odd of Simon Case to be so obstructive to Sue Gray getting a permanent secretary job since he himself was plucked from relative obscurity.
Does Rishi get a boost from the NI deal? It seems to have shifted the polls a bit but the market reaction has been fairly tepid given how much businesses were panicking about the protocol bill. Still we have the opportunity to improve relations with the EU now around visas and other sensible areas.
Rishi played a blinder with NI, but Boris and Sir Keir were quick to move the story on so it had no time whatsoever to sink in. We're back to normality.
Smart Tories will not have expected more than they got in terms of a poll boost. The NI agreement is part of a process, not an end in itself. If Sunak can continue to deliver positives over a period of time then there is a chance the gap could close. After all, Labour hasn’t had big leads for that long. However, he needs the partygate and lockdown stuff to go away and for the Johnson loyalists to realise just how damaging their man is. That may be a tall order.
I think we're in the situation where the Borisites (and others of that persuasion) would actually prefer Sir Keir to win if it meant Rishi failing. A similar phenomenon within the British Right occurred during the Major/Blair era and even - albeit to a lesser extent - with Cameron/Miliband. Rishi has few friends.
Prince Andrew demands mansion 'fit for a king' and disgraced royal wants 'top role'
Duke of York is refusing to leave the palatial 30-bedroom Windsor home after King Charles informed him of planned budget cuts to the royal finances….
… Andrew, 63, has even offered to run some of the most prestigious estates in the Royal Family’s portfolio, including the late Queen’s beloved Balmoral Castle in Aberdeenshire.
Sources have revealed how the Duke pleaded with the King for a “top role”, believing the responsibility and prestige with running the properties would offer him a way back into the fold.
I didn't know the D of Y was an experienced rural estate manager. Change of career at the age of 63? Not impossible, but ...
I'd say give him a try at the estate management job, but still make him move to Frogmore Cottage. He's not exactly asking to be Emperor of the known universe is he? It's important for him to have some sort of occupation to keep him busy.
When I was at Uni, the Land Management students were the cream - rich and thick.
IIRC Land management was the subject people studied who were otherwise heavily involved in sport
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
'“When Kemi got a new department, Michael [Gove] encouraged her to ask for Sue as her permanent secretary and she was only too keen to do so.”
But it appears that the most senior civil servant in the Government Cabinet Secretary Simon Case had other plans.
According to sources he is alleged to have got involved in the recruitment process and vetoed Ms Gray’s candidacy on a technicality because she was “not of the right grade to be promoted to permanent secretary".
The impact of this was devastating.
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”'
And if your face doesn't fit - then it's time to get out.
My hope is that conservative mps realise just how toxic Johnson and his allies are, especially at their ludicrous attempts to discredit Sue Gray's report, that they row in behind Sunak as Sreve Baker did yesterday when he told Boris there is no coming back from this
Listening to the analysis of the privileges committee report released yesterday, conservative mps must see the evidence against Johnson is overwhelming and continued association with him is not political savvy
On Sue Gray, her report was fair and showed no political bias but her sudden acceptance of the position in Starmer's office was very badly timed and no doubt the cabinet office will investigate the time line of communications between her and Starmer to establish just when this was first discussed
Maybe obtain their what's app messages !!!!
If the Express is to be believed, it all happened in the last month and is due to the stupidity of Simon Case;
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”
It is understood she was “upset and frustrated” and soon after Starmer approached her.
A source said: “Everybody knew what had happened and Starmer must have got to hear about it too so he swooped. It’s actually a masterstroke by him.”
'“When Kemi got a new department, Michael [Gove] encouraged her to ask for Sue as her permanent secretary and she was only too keen to do so.”
But it appears that the most senior civil servant in the Government Cabinet Secretary Simon Case had other plans.
According to sources he is alleged to have got involved in the recruitment process and vetoed Ms Gray’s candidacy on a technicality because she was “not of the right grade to be promoted to permanent secretary".
The impact of this was devastating.
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”'
And if your face doesn't fit - then it's time to get out.
Case seems oddly young for his position yet has multiple cock ups to his name. Weird.
Also surprised by the tone of his communications in the Whatsapps, but I haven't looked at many, so it may be unfair. But it doesn't come over very Sir Humphrey.
I don't know senior civil servants but I have met senior LA people, and there often seems like a culture of informality and casualness at the top, a sort of reaction against perceived stuffiness. Blunt talking over smooth Humphrey evasiveness.
Australian men: all they talk about is sport, and are chippy.
Australian women: a bit chippy/bolshy and whilst they don't talk about sport, there's not much else they do talk about except work and Wokery, if from Melbourne and Canberra.
Conclusions: Australia is boring and Australians have no depth.
So much for the Anglosphere then.
Anglosphere is great but I've generally found Canadians much more interesting.
Places at med schools are massively over subscribed. Pay and conditions are not putting people off wanting to become doctors.
There’s some naïveté I think. Wanting to do something to help. Whenever I go to college Law Society dinners earnest undergraduates ache to become Human Rights Barristers, which pays sod all. If you want to be a rich liberal follow the example of tax barristers Joylon Maugham, who couldn’t fund his extra curricular activities without a solid helping of tax…clients.
* Asylum claims by those who make small boat crossings automatically inadmissible
* New detention powers
* Removal to third country
* Permanently banned from returning to UK
* No right to remain while cases heard
ROFL there is no way this is going to work
You can laugh all you want but if the problem continues to fester things will only get worse.
How does making new laws that will be thrown out by the courts help one iota? It merely provides comfort to the readers of the Daily Mail, whilst further weakening public trust in the judiciary.
I think in hindsight we should have locked the over 60s and very vulnerable indoors but everyone else should have been free. I naively assumed we’d get some kind of gratitude or sympathy for what we did but no we just get fucked over again and again. Sick of it.
Convinced my wife a few months ago to watch DS9, she's not hugely into sci-fi but I sold it as a character drama more than anything else. She's really enjoying it, we got to Far Beyond the Stars (captain Sisko transports back to 1950s segregated America in a vision) this morning after putting Jen down for her nap. She was actually amazed at how good it is and how relevant it is today.
What I think has impressed her most over the whole run is how well having a black captain was done. The reason she agreed was because she watched Discovery originally and found it merely ok so I suggested we go back to peak ST which for me is DS9. Coming back to this morning's episode she thinks if it was released today it would get lauded as one of the best TV episodes made. Have to say I agree, it really is brilliant.
DS9 is amazing.
Also enjoying the new Picard. Why it took them until Season 3 to deliver what everyone wanted I don't know.
Haven't started Picard season 3, the first two were so awful so I'm waiting until it's all out to watch it.
On the latter it's because modern TV writers have planet sized egos. They can't admit they got it wrong, season 3 has got a new writing team after Paramount sacked the original team after season 2 flopped. The Witcher suffers from this issue and Amazon will need to get a new writing team for Rings of Power as well. The Witcher writers managed to push Henry Cavill out and with him I think the audience goes too so Netflix will have to choose after season 4 flops whether to cancel it or sack the writers and bring back Henry Cavill with a team that will actually respect the source material. Same as Rings of Power.
If you look at the most successful recent shows they are House of the Dragon and The Last of Us, both of them respect the brilliant source material and bring it all to life. In games Hogwarts Legacy has been a huge success and that's because it is a love letter to the Harry Potter universe and really respects everything JK Rowling wrote.
FPT - @Leon had it right when he said all this stuff about crown jewels, Elgin Marbles, and Diego Garcia, slavery reparations etc is feeding into a wider narrative that Britain has lost confidence in itself, is consumed by guilt, and in irrevocable decline and thus everything is up for discussion for those who shout loudly enough, usually for domestic consumption. So it's no wonder people are queueing up to pick at the carcass to see what they can get. Hence, Argentina and the Falklands.
Government need to grow a pair, up investment in the foreign office and ministry of defence, hold our heads high on the international stage, and, diplomatically, tell everyone who wants a piece of us to fuck off.
Sadly, this time there is no Margaret Thatcher to tell them to go jump in a lake
Maybe they need you or, better still, Judith Chalmers to do so.
I did see you and @Dura_Ace mockingly comparing my tireless stalker, @SeanT, to Ms Chalmers for his work in the Spectator
Places at med schools are massively over subscribed. Pay and conditions are not putting people off wanting to become doctors.
There’s some naïveté I think. Wanting to do something to help. Whenever I go to college Law Society dinners earnest undergraduates ache to become Human Rights Barristers, which pays sod all. If you want to be a rich liberal follow the example of tax barristers Joylon Maugham, who couldn’t fund his extra curricular activities without a solid helping of tax…clients.
Grandson Two, currently reading history is thinking of transferring to law, or are doing a fourth year to get into law. His mother who used to work with high-level sporting contracts has, I fear, influenced him
* Asylum claims by those who make small boat crossings automatically inadmissible
* New detention powers
* Removal to third country
* Permanently banned from returning to UK
* No right to remain while cases heard
ROFL there is no way this is going to work
You can laugh all you want but if the problem continues to fester things will only get worse.
How does making new laws that will be thrown out by the courts help one iota? It merely provides comfort to the readers of the Daily Mail, whilst further weakening public trust in the judiciary.
If we want to do this, then accept that we must withdraw from international human rights treaties. Or make laws that are consistent with them. Either is better than government pretending to solve a problem in full knowledge it will not be allowed by the courts.
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'“When Kemi got a new department, Michael [Gove] encouraged her to ask for Sue as her permanent secretary and she was only too keen to do so.”
But it appears that the most senior civil servant in the Government Cabinet Secretary Simon Case had other plans.
According to sources he is alleged to have got involved in the recruitment process and vetoed Ms Gray’s candidacy on a technicality because she was “not of the right grade to be promoted to permanent secretary".
The impact of this was devastating.
One source noted: “It in effect put an end to her career chances because it meant she would never be promoted to a permanent secretary job and never have a chance to become Cabinet Secretary. A lot of ministers wanted her to land the top job one day.”'
And if your face doesn't fit - then it's time to get out.
On the subject of Boris Johnson standing in a ‘safe’’ constituency, perhaps someone should remind him of the fate of Neil Hamilton in Tatton. It’s happened once, it could happen again!
Yes, I'll grant you that.
Lots of doctors emigrating.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/04/sue-gray-labour-boris-johnson
I really wonder if she will be lawyering up against HMG and the Tory Party, not just the media.
But...that does seem plausible.
private and double or treble your cash.
My wife had a 5-10 minute appointment recently at £270, not bad work if you can get it.
I'm not going to vote for the guy, but you have to accept he's a step up from his predecessors.
Yep, Demosthenes got them all fired up ahead of the Battle of Chaeronea. Ahem.
Not to mention 10% on pensions and benefits.
Australia has billboards in Central London encouraging British doctors to emigrated there.
And of course she has excellent character references from Johnson B, Gove M, Dorries N et aliis.
I get the impression it is another straw for you to clutch, just like Currygate.
75% of applicants with the right A levels or equivalent get a place, albeit often at second attempt.
Retention of postgraduate medical staff (like nurses and teachers) is terrible with multiple vacancies across rotas.
Incidentally we are finding very high dropout rates in the medical school now, particularly those in the post covid A level year that never did the exams. This is a national phenomenon, not sure if the same on other university courses.
Indeed expanding medical schools requires more of us grognards in order to teach and train them. Better pay us to stay on...
On another note, does anyone seriously believe that Simon Case is a neutral civil servant? Seriously??
Personal integrity is more important than party loyalty.
The current wave of inflation has been caused purely by external factors, not by excessive pay increases. That's just a pretext to try and hold down wages.
In the immortal words of Red Adair:
Does Rishi get a boost from the NI deal? It seems to have shifted the polls a bit but the market reaction has been fairly tepid given how much businesses were panicking about the protocol bill. Still we have the opportunity to improve relations with the EU now around visas and other sensible areas.
You ever met an interesting Aussie with "depth" ?
Also, it will shortly be on fire.
It would appear to be an easy call for the non-partisan.
Australian women: a bit chippy/bolshy and whilst they don't talk about sport, there's not much else they do talk about except work and Wokery, if from Melbourne and Canberra.
Conclusions: Australia is boring and Australians have no depth.
Another is Bernard Jenkin, who though unpredictable has given Boris a hard time at the Liaison Committee.
So I'm not sure the Tory majority will help him much.
In hindsight, do you think the government’s handling of the Covid-19 outbreak was…
All Britons
🟰 About right: 34%
✖️ Not strict enough: 37%
❌ Too strict: 19%
Con voters
🟰 50%
✖️ 20%
❌ 25%
Lab voters
🟰 23%
✖️ 54%
❌ 14%
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1631689264072126464
(Have I missed the entire life cycle of a troll while doing the washing up? That has to be some sort of record.)
What I think has impressed her most over the whole run is how well having a black captain was done. The reason she agreed was because she watched Discovery originally and found it merely ok so I suggested we go back to peak ST which for me is DS9. Coming back to this morning's episode she thinks if it was released today it would get lauded as one of the best TV episodes made. Have to say I agree, it really is brilliant.
* Asylum claims by those who make small boat crossings automatically inadmissible
* New detention powers
* Removal to third country
* Permanently banned from returning to UK
* No right to remain while cases heard
ROFL there is no way this is going to work
There were six council by-elections on Thursday (one of the three counting on Friday took a long time, so I wasn't able to post yesterday)
Labour held in Oxford and Oxfordshire despite a strong Independent
Labour also held in Newcastle; the turnout was extremely low, possibly because it's such a safe ward, but the LibDems and Greens will take some comfort from a numerical increase in their vote, and hence a decent percentage increase.
Conservatives held in Staffordshire and Tamworth, but both saw a good swing towards Labour. Tamworth required a recount, and the significant vote for an Independent may have help the Cons survive there.
The only gain of the night was in Kent, where the Greens took a seat off the Cons.
Good Week/Bad Week Index
Lab +84
Grn +52
LDm +9
Con -84
Full explanation of the Index here: https://drinkentire.wordpress.com/2023/02/07/the-good-week-bad-week-index/
Adjusted Seat Value
Lab +1.4
Grn +0.9
LDm +0.2
Con -1.4
b) it's not an attack on Starmer.
What's going on BJO?
The scientists and Hancock conspired to put the country into a neverending lockdown based on bullshit data and the fool PM fell for it because he can't do maths or interrogate data.
They presumably won’t be a Tory much longer. Far too much reason and common sense
Also enjoying the new Picard. Why it took them until Season 3 to deliver what everyone wanted I don't know.
You cannot make it illegal for somebody who crosses in a boat to submit an asylum claim.
Which third country? What agreement do we have? We had one with France within the EU but that has gone.
How can you permanently ban a refugee from the UK? Until they are proven to not have a legitimate claim we have an obligation for their safety.
Where on earth will these people go whilst their claims are listened to?
These solutions will not resolve the problem and will just make it worse.
https://unherd.com/2022/01/has-the-great-barrington-declaration-been-vindicated/
It clarifies better than I can what being a Senior Civil Servant means, and why the fuss over Gray's appointment is so ludicrous.
On the latter it's because modern TV writers have planet sized egos. They can't admit they got it wrong, season 3 has got a new writing team after Paramount sacked the original team after season 2 flopped. The Witcher suffers from this issue and Amazon will need to get a new writing team for Rings of Power as well. The Witcher writers managed to push Henry Cavill out and with him I think the audience goes too so Netflix will have to choose after season 4 flops whether to cancel it or sack the writers and bring back Henry Cavill with a team that will actually respect the source material. Same as Rings of Power.
If you look at the most successful recent shows they are House of the Dragon and The Last of Us, both of them respect the brilliant source material and bring it all to life. In games Hogwarts Legacy has been a huge success and that's because it is a love letter to the Harry Potter universe and really respects everything JK Rowling wrote.
He seems to be doing ok, tho
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-we-forgot-about-pol-pot/
Let’s start from the POV that these are human beings. And the rhetoric of this lot is now leading to violence against them.
His mother who used to work with high-level sporting contracts has, I fear, influenced him