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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    It's food.

    It's taste hasn't changed. It's calorie count hasn't changed. It's texture and the way it's cooked hasn't changed.

    Food doesn't have opinions.

    To quote MJ Hibbett in The Lesson of the Smiths:

    "Just because a bunch of wankers like it, doesn't mean that it's shit"
    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
  • I am going for a woke run

    A "They / Them" run instead of a "He / Him" one?
    My shins identify as Bob and Sarah, I will have you know!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,412

    @Casino_Royale why would you not eat something just because some other people (who you don't like) also like it?

    Because these people are trying to dictate my choices and push their own world view on me.

    Don't try and deny it.
    I’m not a vegan and I don’t go to vegan/venison restaurants. I go to Wetherspoons.

    I honestly don’t see the problem.
    15 years ago, having Venison or Rabbit (or other meats) on the menu would have been about expanding choice and range into traditional meats for the right reasons.

    Now, it's done by Woke people to restrict and qualifyt the choices of others for Woke reasons.

    It is therefore now Woke, and it has put me off.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    It's food.

    It's taste hasn't changed. It's calorie count hasn't changed. It's texture and the way it's cooked hasn't changed.

    Food doesn't have opinions.

    To quote MJ Hibbett in The Lesson of the Smiths:

    "Just because a bunch of wankers like it, doesn't mean that it's shit"
    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    I remember a graffito in the biology dept at the uni. "Eat shite; 1,000,000,000 flies can't be wrong.'
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I misread 'cervid' and was thinking that shooting a cervix didn't sound very woke.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829

    @Casino_Royale why would you not eat something just because some other people (who you don't like) also like it?

    Because these people are trying to dictate my choices and push their own world view on me.

    Don't try and deny it.
    I’m not a vegan and I don’t go to vegan/venison restaurants. I go to Wetherspoons.

    I honestly don’t see the problem.
    15 years ago, having Venison or Rabbit (or other meats) on the menu would have been about expanding choice and range into traditional meats for the right reasons.

    Now, it's done by Woke people to restrict and qualifyt the choices of others for Woke reasons.

    It is therefore now Woke, and it has put me off.
    Haw! That's excellent satire. Really catches the Wokefinder General ambience. Now all you need is some RAF chaps' dog names.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    My old boss used to love shooting pheasants.

    He called it "the humane harvesting of organic free range produce".
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,412
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    It's food.

    It's taste hasn't changed. It's calorie count hasn't changed. It's texture and the way it's cooked hasn't changed.

    Food doesn't have opinions.

    To quote MJ Hibbett in The Lesson of the Smiths:

    "Just because a bunch of wankers like it, doesn't mean that it's shit"
    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    It's restricted the choice at one of my favourite pubs. And I am royally pissed off.

    That's what I object to.

    If someone tries and tells me what to do I am liable to do the exact opposite, and then turn it up to eleven to spite them and teach them a lesson.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    rcs1000 said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    My old boss used to love shooting pheasants.

    He called it "the humane harvesting of organic free range produce".
    Quite. So long as he was accurate, mind.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    It's food.

    It's taste hasn't changed. It's calorie count hasn't changed. It's texture and the way it's cooked hasn't changed.

    Food doesn't have opinions.

    To quote MJ Hibbett in The Lesson of the Smiths:

    "Just because a bunch of wankers like it, doesn't mean that it's shit"
    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    It's restricted the choice at one of my favourite pubs. And I am royally pissed off.

    That's what I object to.

    If someone tries and tells me what to do I am liable to do the exact opposite, and then turn it up to eleven to spite them and teach them a lesson.
    It's not the venison you object to, it's the restriction of other choices.

    Which is perfectly reasonable. But that doesn't make venison in any way wrong or woke.
  • The great thing about the free market is that I am free to dine at vegan restaurants - I have some great suggestions in South Ken if anyone would be interested? - and others can go to McD and have a cheeseburger. I had one last night, it was yummy.
  • ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I misread 'cervid' and was thinking that shooting a cervix didn't sound very woke.
    There's a joke to be made about shooting your load into a cervix but I'm too classy to make it.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    It's food.

    It's taste hasn't changed. It's calorie count hasn't changed. It's texture and the way it's cooked hasn't changed.

    Food doesn't have opinions.

    To quote MJ Hibbett in The Lesson of the Smiths:

    "Just because a bunch of wankers like it, doesn't mean that it's shit"
    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    It's restricted the choice at one of my favourite pubs. And I am royally pissed off.

    That's what I object to.

    If someone tries and tells me what to do I am liable to do the exact opposite, and then turn it up to eleven to spite them and teach them a lesson.
    Loads of pubs close every year. Its a tough gig. Quite surprised that they can afford to base their menu specifically to piss off their customers. Of course they might be doing what they think sells....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,412

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    edited March 2023
    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
    Pan fried [edit:] two breasts yesterday night, very shallowly with chopped shallots and mushrooms, and mashed potatoes, and peas (the latter only cos we have to empty the freezer: else sprouts or cabbage or sweetcorn. Served with a little cranberry sauce left over from Christmas (else we'd have redcurrant or sloe jelly).
  • I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Seeing as we're on a food kick, this news is causing a lot of "it's the end of days" vibes here : https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-64834929

    "Scottish bakery Morton's Rolls 'ceases trading'"

    Which I know means naff-all to almost almost anyone, but a "roll'n'square" without the roll being a Mortons... is just unthinkable. And please, no-one be so cruel as to suggest a McGhee's.

    (Allegedly there is a little chicanery behind the 'ceases trading' - but we'll see)
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,214
    edited March 2023

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
    Pan fried [edit:] two breasts yesterday night, very shallowly with chopped shallots and mushrooms, and mashed potatoes, and peas (the latter only cos we have to empty the freezer: else sprouts or cabbage or sweetcorn. Served with a little cranberry sauce left over from Christmas (else we'd have redcurrant or sloe jelly).
    That isn't helping my cravings.... Tonights chicken stir fry is becoming less appealing by the minute.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,412

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    Do you want a fight?

    Apologise and stop your obsession with me.

    Or let's have this over once and for all.

    You can DM me any time.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I misread 'cervid' and was thinking that shooting a cervix didn't sound very woke.
    There's a joke to be made about shooting your load into a cervix but I'm too classy to make it.
    Did you find that restraint a hard one?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    ohnotnow said:

    Seeing as we're on a food kick, this news is causing a lot of "it's the end of days" vibes here : https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-64834929

    "Scottish bakery Morton's Rolls 'ceases trading'"

    Which I know means naff-all to almost almost anyone, but a "roll'n'square" without the roll being a Mortons... is just unthinkable. And please, no-one be so cruel as to suggest a McGhee's.

    (Allegedly there is a little chicanery behind the 'ceases trading' - but we'll see)

    Used to live 3 doors away from a traditional bakery. Fresh rolls every morning. Now ...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    Do you want a fight?

    Apologise and stop your obsession with me.

    Or let's have this over once and for all.

    You can DM me any time.
    Swords or pistols?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    ydoethur said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    Do you want a fight?

    Apologise and stop your obsession with me.

    Or let's have this over once and for all.

    You can DM me any time.
    Swords or pistols?
    Keyboards surely.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    edited March 2023
    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
    Pan fried [edit:] two breasts yesterday night, very shallowly with chopped shallots and mushrooms, and mashed potatoes, and peas (the latter only cos we have to empty the freezer: else sprouts or cabbage or sweetcorn. Served with a little cranberry sauce left over from Christmas (else we'd have redcurrant or sloe jelly).
    That isn't helping my cravings.... Tonights chicken stir fry is becoming less appealing by the minute.

    What do we pay for pheasants? I still have a couple left in the freezer from my Christmas Game Box from Aldi. I have now taken one out for this evening :smile: .

    Looking at my usual sources for kippers*, I see that Mallards are now at £4.99, which was 3 or £10 at Christmas 2022. Is that decent value, short of shooting it myself?

    * https://www.lancastersmokehouse.co.uk/collections/meats/products/oven-ready-wild-mallard
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Seeing as we're on a food kick, this news is causing a lot of "it's the end of days" vibes here : https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-64834929

    "Scottish bakery Morton's Rolls 'ceases trading'"

    Which I know means naff-all to almost almost anyone, but a "roll'n'square" without the roll being a Mortons... is just unthinkable. And please, no-one be so cruel as to suggest a McGhee's.

    (Allegedly there is a little chicanery behind the 'ceases trading' - but we'll see)

    Used to live 3 doors away from a traditional bakery. Fresh rolls every morning. Now ...
    I have some really good bakers around me from central/eastern Europe. But none of them do rolls. It seems like it's not 'a thing' for them.

    I have to make do with freshly made caraway sourdough loaves and the like. I struggle through as best I can...
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,249
    ydoethur said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    Do you want a fight?

    Apologise and stop your obsession with me.

    Or let's have this over once and for all.

    You can DM me any time.
    Swords or pistols?
    Davy Crockett’s at half a mile - the woke, vegan nuclear weapon. 20 ton minimum yield.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,650
    Now seems like a good time to discuss the relative merits of different forms of proportional representation and Liberal Democrat policy creation processes.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    Do you want a fight?

    Apologise and stop your obsession with me.

    Or let's have this over once and for all.

    You can DM me any time.
    Swords or pistols?
    Keyboards surely.
    Mac vs PC perhaps?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    edited March 2023
    A massive big PB fight is actually a good idea

    Settle all this shit once and for all

    So you think the d’Hondt mechanism is a sensible solution to the issue of constituency representation?

    KERPOW

    The first side to lose more than 50% of its proponents to death or severe incapacitation is deemed to be in the wrong, and is not allowed to mention its ideas for 36 hours
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    MattW said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
    Pan fried [edit:] two breasts yesterday night, very shallowly with chopped shallots and mushrooms, and mashed potatoes, and peas (the latter only cos we have to empty the freezer: else sprouts or cabbage or sweetcorn. Served with a little cranberry sauce left over from Christmas (else we'd have redcurrant or sloe jelly).
    That isn't helping my cravings.... Tonights chicken stir fry is becoming less appealing by the minute.

    What do we pay for pheasants? I still have a couple left in the freezer from my Christmas Game Box from Aldi. I have now taken one out for this evening :smile: .

    Looking at my usual sources for kippers*, I see that Mallards are now at £4.99, which was 3 or £10 at Christmas 2022. Is that decent value, short of shooting it myself?

    * https://www.lancastersmokehouse.co.uk/collections/meats/products/oven-ready-wild-mallard
    It was about 7 to 10 quid for a whole pheasant last time I checked locally.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
  • Leon said:

    A massive big PB fight is actually a good idea

    Settle all this shit once and for all

    So you think the d’Hondt mechanism is a sensible solution to the issue of constituency representation?

    KERPOW

    The first side to lose more than 50% of its proponents to death or severe incapacitation is deemed to have lost

    You'd need to hire a suitable venue, but the cost would be worth it. The event could perhaps be televised, and might even show a profit.

    Let's suggest it to Robert. It's would be far more interesting and effective than that stupid ban hammer of his.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,036
    edited March 2023
    ydoethur said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    Murray Watts once said 'When somebody makes an angry comment to you, do not return in kind, but give him a soft answer. It is commanded by Holy Writ. But also, it makes him madder than anything else you could say.'
    I was once on a training course at work about conflict descalation and they said the best thing to do when somebody shouts at you is to reply softly and quietly because it is almost impossible to continue shouting at someone when they're talking softer than normal to you. They end up having to put much too much energy into continuing to yell and also just look stupid.

    It needs a lot of self-discipline, but it works really well.
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,904

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    It's food.

    It's taste hasn't changed. It's calorie count hasn't changed. It's texture and the way it's cooked hasn't changed.

    Food doesn't have opinions.

    To quote MJ Hibbett in The Lesson of the Smiths:

    "Just because a bunch of wankers like it, doesn't mean that it's shit"
    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    It's restricted the choice at one of my favourite pubs. And I am royally pissed off.

    That's what I object to.

    If someone tries and tells me what to do I am liable to do the exact opposite, and then turn it up to eleven to spite them and teach them a lesson.
    I think I ought to instruct you to vote Conservative at the next election. It is my duty.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    edited March 2023
    ohnotnow said:

    MattW said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
    Pan fried [edit:] two breasts yesterday night, very shallowly with chopped shallots and mushrooms, and mashed potatoes, and peas (the latter only cos we have to empty the freezer: else sprouts or cabbage or sweetcorn. Served with a little cranberry sauce left over from Christmas (else we'd have redcurrant or sloe jelly).
    That isn't helping my cravings.... Tonights chicken stir fry is becoming less appealing by the minute.

    What do we pay for pheasants? I still have a couple left in the freezer from my Christmas Game Box from Aldi. I have now taken one out for this evening :smile: .

    Looking at my usual sources for kippers*, I see that Mallards are now at £4.99, which was 3 or £10 at Christmas 2022. Is that decent value, short of shooting it myself?

    * https://www.lancastersmokehouse.co.uk/collections/meats/products/oven-ready-wild-mallard
    It was about 7 to 10 quid for a whole pheasant last time I checked locally.
    About 3.50 for a pair of pretty chunky breasts here. Specialist local game firm + community shop.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    Leon said:

    boulay said:

    Mr. Max, DS9 has a lot to like. Damar's arc springs to mind, and the conversation Kira has with him about whether or not to bomb facilities after the Dominion choose to make sure every one has Cardassians present is interesting for the moral quandry it raises.

    Mr. Seal, I hardly ever watch new stuff (although I did get a box set of the first three seasons of The Expanse and liked it a lot. May watch House of the Dragon at some point). A problem can be when something seeks to claim the fanbase of an IP then changes it utterly for a 'modern audience' (Velma could be such an example).

    And sometimes writing quality is just atrocious. Yes, Galadriel taking a pyroclastic flow to the face and being just fine. I'm looking at you.

    The trouble is writers can't resist the Wokery.

    And, when they do, people just turn off.
    I stumbled across a series called “the boys” (I usually don’t like superhero things) and have never watched anything so non-correct. Attacks certain political positions but not from a pearl clutching standpoint and with dark humour.

    The best thing is that I have never heard the banned “C” word used so much outside of mumsnet.
    The Boys is fantastic. Karl Urban proving once again what a great actor he is. Also worth watching Preacher which was also written by Garth Ennis. Made by the same team and has the same black humour.

    Unless you are religious. If you are religious you probably won't enjoy it.
    The Boys is excellent. I am running out of tv drama to watch in the Kok but that’s kept me going

    Barbarians Season Two is, by contrast, beyond poor. It’s like a Parody of Wokeness but written by Woke people. In the 14th minute of season 2 episode 1 there’s a handy Carthaginian princess to be black and female and powerful and in minute 36 it turns out the brutal Roman general is actually having a tragic gay affair with the Teutonic chieftain

    Then I gave up
    Shame, I enjoyed the first season.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    edited March 2023
    Leon said:

    A massive big PB fight is actually a good idea

    Settle all this shit once and for all

    So you think the d’Hondt mechanism is a sensible solution to the issue of constituency representation?

    KERPOW

    The first side to lose more than 50% of its proponents to death or severe incapacitation is deemed to be in the wrong, and is not allowed to mention its ideas for 36 hours

    Will the result be decided by AV?

    Edit - besides, that's a bad question. Nobody thinks the d'Hondt mechanism is sensible. It's the Verification Principle applied to politics.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    A massive big PB fight is actually a good idea

    Settle all this shit once and for all

    So you think the d’Hondt mechanism is a sensible solution to the issue of constituency representation?

    KERPOW

    The first side to lose more than 50% of its proponents to death or severe incapacitation is deemed to be in the wrong, and is not allowed to mention its ideas for 36 hours

    Will the result be decided by AV?

    Edit - besides, that's a bad question. Nobody thinks the d'Hondt mechanism is sensible. It's the Verification Principle applied to politics.
    One might inquire, is it the d'Hondt version of Scottish Labour plus Scottish Liberal Democrats 1997? Or some other variant? One needs to know.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    It revealed he is a twat, Williamson is a bigger twat and Johnson is actually insane.

    So it didn't really tell us anything we didn't already know.

    Congrats on the new job, hope it's going well.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    He and Williamson were rude about teachers, he doesn't like Rishi, some measures were brought in for political reasons not health reasons, and Boris watches a lot of news.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    #JustRelax people. It's very rarely worth losing your shit on the internet.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,812
    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Challenges to duels, a fetish about pheasants, a Brexit tinged obsession with yesterday's man, it all looks pretty normal to me.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,802
    Not heard of venison being woke tbh, it's not a meat I particularly enjoy but never thought of it as particularly woke or otherwise. What makes it so?
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366
    MaxPB said:

    I think in hindsight we should have locked the over 60s and very vulnerable indoors but everyone else should have been free. I naively assumed we’d get some kind of gratitude or sympathy for what we did but no we just get fucked over again and again. Sick of it.

    I think you let your anger colour a rational appreciation of reality. Many, many people under 60 died, and many more would have if we had simply locked up the over 60s. Besides, you’d never pass such a law. What next? Only under 30s to wear tight jeans?
    At the time you were one of the most strident in calling for lockdowns. Endless posts of ‘lockdown now’. It was never just about protecting the elderly. Prior to vaccination covid could take people of any age, albeit skewed to the older population, just like flu. The lockdowns were to prevent stress on the healthcare system so that deaths from other causes didn’t happen. You think the ambulance waits were bad recently? Wonder what would have happened if we had not locked down in March 2020.

    There is one awful counterfactual out there. A do nothing approach, have a huge wave, infect most and then recover. No idea how many would have died but plausibly over a million when secondary death is included due to the lack of healthcare. But we would have been through it quicker. It’s just that few societies would accept that risk.
    I think the anti-lockdown crowd also forget that the vast majority of people were already locking themselves down in advance of the official rules. Shops were closing, pubs and cafes were empty. This matters because the economy was grinding to a halt but without it being official the systems to provide support to our economy, to all the businesses that were going to go bust, would have been a lot more difficult if not impossible.

    So the end result would have been more people dying but less support for people to survive. Far more people would have been forced to put themselves in danger for purely economic reasons and the country would have come out of it in a far worse place.
    That's people's personal choice at that point which is what should have been after lockdown 1. You're supposed to be a liberal.
    Liberalism is based on the no harm principle. Spreading a deadly virus to people, to the point when healthcare won't be available, breaks that.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,412
    Dura_Ace said:

    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,802

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Nothing we didn't already know. Confirmed that Boris is thick and easily bamboozled by big numbers and scientists with an agenda. Rishi not so easily convinced.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    Dura_Ace said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    Sunak is too boring for kompromat.
    The man likes Coca Cola and Star Wars. His hinterland stretches to the end of his walk-in, under-lit, wardrobe
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,006

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Perhaps it was empty because they knew "Mr Angry" was coming in.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    Dura_Ace said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    The man's got 18 months left in office at most, no need for kompomat to hasten things.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366

    Dura_Ace said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    Sunak is too boring for kompromat.
    The man likes Coca Cola and Star Wars. His hinterland stretches to the end of his walk-in, under-lit, wardrobe
    Nothing wrong with that.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    MaxPB said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Nothing we didn't already know. Confirmed that Boris is thick and easily bamboozled by big numbers and scientists with an agenda. Rishi not so easily convinced.
    I’m not ready to give Rishi the plaudits on that.
    He is driven by fiscal, rather than liberal, motivations.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    That Isabel Oakeshott isn’t to be trusted by sources?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,812
    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,006

    @Casino_Royale why would you not eat something just because some other people (who you don't like) also like it?

    Because these people are trying to dictate my choices and push their own world view on me.

    Don't try and deny it.
    FFS just go to a different pub.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,383

    WillG said:

    I don't understand why people still want to talk about lockdown. I would rather forget it ever happened to be honest.

    There's a non-negligible risk that another pandemic virus emerges in our lifetimes, so it's a good idea to argue this out now and be prepared for what to do next time.

    I'd like to see work done on filtration, to make transmission of airborne viruses less likely in indoor spaces. We should consider why masks were so ineffective, whether they're worth bothering with next time, or what we can do differently to improve their efficacy (better mask designs, valved masks, minimum standards, etc).

    There's lots of things we should be able to do differently next time to reduce the deaths suffered and the inconvenience. And we should remember the things that we did well - such as treatment studies and vaccination development.
    Masks aren't ineffective. The studies that claim they were actually are just studies that show Americans are entitled numpties that don't listen to rules. The effects of mask mandates in Germany, for example, immediately slowed the spread of the virus.

    As for the determining policy based on future pandemics, it is largely futile because we won't know the dynamics of the next virus. What if it has a 10% death rate rather than 2%, and mainly affects children?

    The main thing I learned from lockdown was how mentally weak and lacking in grit the modern day West is. Yes, there were specific circumstances where restrictions were excessive (e.g. visiting elderly relatives) but for most people it was just staying in your home. Modern technology also meant you could easily chat to anyone over Zoom. Comparing that to losing, say, 100k more people forever... well, it was just entitled.
    Quite right. Lockdown was great. I missed the pub bit, but it saved me a fortune on season tickets.
    Yup. Lockdown was fantastic for me. Worked at home. Saved a fortune on going out, I rarely drive to work so that didn’t save me much. Simply ordered my beers in and started making my own ginger beer and banana wine. One home shop from Tesco was just 40 mixed cans and bottles of beer.

    I also managed to catch up on loads of obscure series I had on DVD that I’d not had a chance to watch as well as converting my collection to MP4s.

  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    ydoethur said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    It revealed he is a twat, Williamson is a bigger twat and Johnson is actually insane.

    So it didn't really tell us anything we didn't already know.

    Congrats on the new job, hope it's going well.
    Thanks.
    I will report on any wokery as I’m in a slightly more corporate environment than before.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    I actually think we are closer than we used to be on this point, though pearl clutching over offence still remains - and it is far from a merely liberal phenomenom. Snowflakes come in all shapes and sizes after all.


    At some point, liberals and “progressives” are just going to have to admit that nobody - and that includes minorities who may experience prejudice - do not have a right not to be offended. Not to experience hate? Yes. Not to experience discrimination? Yes. Offence? No


    https://twitter.com/residentadviser/status/1631923668132540419?cxt=HHwWhsC9ucH74KUtAAAA
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,647

    Dura_Ace said:

    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    BigG will win just by sitting on everyone.

    In my mind he is an enormous 8ft Welsh grizzly bear type thing. Generally benign, but...
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    MaxPB said:

    Not heard of venison being woke tbh, it's not a meat I particularly enjoy but never thought of it as particularly woke or otherwise. What makes it so?

    Please, please don't ask.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,812
    Sandpit said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    That Isabel Oakeshott isn’t to be trusted by sources?
    If that was news to Mr Hancock then he really was not fit to be SoS for anything. And hasn't he heard of injunctions, by the way?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    MaxPB said:

    Not heard of venison being woke tbh, it's not a meat I particularly enjoy but never thought of it as particularly woke or otherwise. What makes it so?

    Low carbon emissions, at a guess. Much more environmentally friendly.

    But honestly, not liking venison. You'll say you take your pizzas with pineapple next.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366

    @Casino_Royale why would you not eat something just because some other people (who you don't like) also like it?

    Because these people are trying to dictate my choices and push their own world view on me.

    Don't try and deny it.
    I’m not a vegan and I don’t go to vegan/venison restaurants. I go to Wetherspoons.

    I honestly don’t see the problem.
    We live in a world where there is more variety and access to choice than at any time in human history. There are a lot of stupid woke people about but I don't need to talk to them, watch their media or visit their establishments. It feels like the people who get really angry at woke just don't like to be exposed to philosophies they disagree with.

    (There are of course other elements of woke which I find opposition to a lot more reasonable.)
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited March 2023
    WillG said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    Sunak is too boring for kompromat.
    The man likes Coca Cola and Star Wars. His hinterland stretches to the end of his walk-in, under-lit, wardrobe
    Nothing wrong with that.
    Yes there is. His cultural curiosity seems to have stopped aged about 13.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375

    Dura_Ace said:

    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    Blimey. Somebody's wearing not so much the Bishop's shoes as his entire regalia.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,647
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    Venison Burgers have loads of other crap thrown in to make them edible.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,812
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    I presume that I am not on it? We used to have it on Christmas day (en croute) as a tastier alternative to turkey. Kept moist it is delicious.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375

    WillG said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    Sunak is too boring for kompromat.
    The man likes Coca Cola and Star Wars. His hinterland stretches to the end of his walk-in, under-lit, wardrobe
    Nothing wrong with that.
    Yes there is. His cultural curiosity seems to have stopped aged about 13.
    So about three years ago? :smile:
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    ydoethur said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    Blimey. Somebody's wearing not so much the Bishop's shoes as his entire regalia.
    Don't know that expression. Sounds a useful one ...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    edited March 2023
    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    I presume that I am not on it? We used to have it on Christmas day (en croute) as a tastier alternative to turkey. Kept moist it is delicious.
    *scrubs DavidL off the list as he redeems himself*

    *substitutes @Eabhal *
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    Eabhal said:

    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    Venison Burgers have loads of other crap thrown in to make them edible.
    I like venison burgers. Much gamier, and maybe richer in iron? Hard to find in the US.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    MattW said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Carnyx said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    Venison is awesome - a little tricky to cook well… now I’m heading to the butchers.
    And helps keep the number of deer down, which helps reforestation efforts and stops the deers themselves slowly dying of starvation over winter.
    Concern for the environment and animal welfare, definitely Woke!
    I am woke because I eat shot game such as pheasant, partridge and cervid? Who knew?
    I haven't had pheasant for ages. Now I want pheasant. I'm holding you responsible for the dent in my wallet!
    Pan fried [edit:] two breasts yesterday night, very shallowly with chopped shallots and mushrooms, and mashed potatoes, and peas (the latter only cos we have to empty the freezer: else sprouts or cabbage or sweetcorn. Served with a little cranberry sauce left over from Christmas (else we'd have redcurrant or sloe jelly).
    That isn't helping my cravings.... Tonights chicken stir fry is becoming less appealing by the minute.

    What do we pay for pheasants? I still have a couple left in the freezer from my Christmas Game Box from Aldi. I have now taken one out for this evening :smile: .

    Looking at my usual sources for kippers*, I see that Mallards are now at £4.99, which was 3 or £10 at Christmas 2022. Is that decent value, short of shooting it myself?

    * https://www.lancastersmokehouse.co.uk/collections/meats/products/oven-ready-wild-mallard
    It was about 7 to 10 quid for a whole pheasant last time I checked locally.
    About 3.50 for a pair of pretty chunky breasts here. Specialist local game firm + community shop.
    Don't think I've seen pheasant breast on sale here for a long while. But a quick look at a 'fancy' butchers website has them £7 for a pair. I'm being robbed!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    Blimey. Somebody's wearing not so much the Bishop's shoes as his entire regalia.
    Don't know that expression. Sounds a useful one ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiawHyLKnks
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,383
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    It's food.

    It's taste hasn't changed. It's calorie count hasn't changed. It's texture and the way it's cooked hasn't changed.

    Food doesn't have opinions.

    To quote MJ Hibbett in The Lesson of the Smiths:

    "Just because a bunch of wankers like it, doesn't mean that it's shit"
    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    It's food.

    It's taste hasn't changed. It's calorie count hasn't changed. It's texture and the way it's cooked hasn't changed.

    Food doesn't have opinions.

    To quote MJ Hibbett in The Lesson of the Smiths:

    "Just because a bunch of wankers like it, doesn't mean that it's shit"
    The people that select the food you are able to purchase have opinions, that's the problem. And the taste absolutely does change if your choice is restricted.

    And food is so much more than raw calories.

    So much more.
    The MJ Hibbett quote is appropriate. Morrissey is a dick. He produced an album called Meat is Murder, which puts him pretty high on the wanker scale.

    But you know what? He made some good music.

    Just because a bunch of woke people promote venison doesn't lessen it as a food.
    We had venison last night, it’s lovely. I like food for what it is, Including venison, irrespective of the people who promote it.

    Also, on the bad people make good music point, rock n roll part 2 by Gary Glitter is a fantastic track. You have to detach the person from the art.

    I watched the Tales of the Unexpected episode “the flypaper” this week. Ronald Dahl presenting it seemed a kindly uncle figure rather than the virulent bigot he was. Mind you the story wasn’t his. But many of his stories were fabulous.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366

    WillG said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    Sunak is too boring for kompromat.
    The man likes Coca Cola and Star Wars. His hinterland stretches to the end of his walk-in, under-lit, wardrobe
    Nothing wrong with that.
    Yes there is. His cultural curiosity seems to have stopped aged about 13.
    If someone finds what they like at 13 and happily enjoys that the rest of his life, while following the law, being economically productive and raising kids into decent human beings, then that's great. Its better than a big chunk of the population.

    Stop being such an elitist arse. Not everyone needs to delight in Ethiopian food or Sumatran poetry. You are doing the same thing as Casino Royale, being so upset that others have different preferences to you that don't affect you one bit.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,748

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    As far as I can tell, the most dramatic revelation was that he had got some kind of official clearance to release all kinds of government-related correspondence to a journalist with the idea of making himself look good and/or making himself some money.

    And then he whined to high heaven when she published it for her own purposes.

    Generally the most interesting Hancock-related revelations remain:
    (1) that a pint is very nearly an armful and
    (2) that Magna Carta was a brave Hungarian girl peasant girl who played a crucial part in medieval licensing law.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    Eabhal said:

    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    Venison Burgers have loads of other crap thrown in to make them edible.
    You do need the pork fat to keep them not-dry and stop them falling apart.

    Quite like making excess venison stew and having half reheated as a curry the next day, which also helps moisturise.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    Chris said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    As far as I can tell, the most dramatic revelation was that he had got some kind of official clearance to release all kinds of government-related correspondence to a journalist with the idea of making himself look good and/or making himself some money.

    And then he whined to high heaven when she published it for her own purposes.

    Generally the most interesting Hancock-related revelations remain:
    (1) that a pint is very nearly an armful and
    (2) that Magna Carta was a brave Hungarian girl peasant girl who played a crucial part in medieval licensing law.
    He had official clearance?!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    Carnyx said:

    Eabhal said:

    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    Venison Burgers have loads of other crap thrown in to make them edible.
    You do need the pork fat to keep them not-dry and stop them falling apart.

    Quite like making excess venison stew and having half reheated as a curry the next day, which also helps moisturise.
    And there was me thinking you use Oil of Ulay.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,383

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Only Hancocks gullibility in trusting Oakshott.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,586
    edited March 2023
    Eabhal said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    BigG will win just by sitting on everyone.

    In my mind he is an enormous 8ft Welsh grizzly bear type thing. Generally benign, but...
    I've been misreading BigG for BFG intermitently for years.

    Edit: I'll flatten you all, obviously.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    MattW said:

    Carnyx said:

    Eabhal said:

    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    felix said:

    Not sure the site I normally read has not been hijacked today. It's seriously weird.

    Why? Don't you like venison?
    Venison is excellent en croute or in a stew. Otherwise it is generally too dry, being exceptionally lean.
    OK, I'm creating a list of people to be cancelled for disliking venison.
    Venison Burgers have loads of other crap thrown in to make them edible.
    You do need the pork fat to keep them not-dry and stop them falling apart.

    Quite like making excess venison stew and having half reheated as a curry the next day, which also helps moisturise.
    And there was me thinking you use Oil of Ulay.
    Nah. Avon Skin So Soft, until Tisos came up with something else for the midges.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,355

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    I studied Environmental Science for some time. Venison is one of the best meats we could eat in the UK, nothing woke about it.
    It's Woke. You're a child

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "Lockdown" is a terrible word and covers a very wide variety of sins.

    A much better way of looking at this has to be restrictions, and what impact they had on the spread of the virus, as opposed to the costs on personal freedoms.

    So restrictions on nightclubs probably made a lot of sense, as did a requirement to wear masks in rush hour on public transport.

    While preventing people from meeting others, even outside!, was a massive invasion of personal liberty with very little evidence it will have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus.

    It was grotesque. It was quite Pol Pot esque, when you think about it. A surreal perversion of normal life for some infantile creed and no obvious purpose
    It's funny, because I was reading an article by a man called Sean Thomas today, about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. In it he described people smashing the heads of children against a tree, having been instructed to laugh out loud while swinging the infants.

    And you know what, I thought "wow, that was just like lockdown."

    I seem to remember SeanT reporting that he'd seen someone coughing in the fruit isle of his local supermarket and wanting to 'bury a knife in his head'. So perhaps for him it was.
    I've just gone to one of my favourite pubs in Alresford and discovered their specials board is now entirely "plant based" - and venison as the meat option on the main menu, which is the Wokies choice of meat - and now I want to bury a knife in the new owner/chefs head, so I know what that feels like.

    Might be why they only have three covers at 1pm on a Saturday.
    Venison is woke? Why? Isn't that the only mammal meat you can get that has to be hunted not farmed?
    It's the sort of meat Greens and Lefties offer as an "alternative" to their veganism, and isn't very popular.

    Trust me, it's Woke.
    This sounds quite deranged to be honest.
    I used to like vension.

    It's been destroyed by the brand. Idiotic fellow travellers, like you.
    I'm sorry that venison has been ruined for you. That's awfully tragic. If you're ever in West Cork there's a great pig farm around here that makes the most delicious marinated pork chops.

    Does it ruin it for you if I tell you that they only got the pigs to feed them the waste whey from their cheese production?
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,523



    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    etc.

    We all get some anonymous poster being rude to us at times, and we get over it. But your post is profoundly and unreasonably unpleasant about someone who has said they have mental health difficulties. You normally seem better than that. You might on reflection consider apologising?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,217
    ydoethur said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    Blimey. Somebody's wearing not so much the Bishop's shoes as his entire regalia.
    Ironic, given how woke the average bishop is accused of being.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,748
    Carnyx said:

    Chris said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    As far as I can tell, the most dramatic revelation was that he had got some kind of official clearance to release all kinds of government-related correspondence to a journalist with the idea of making himself look good and/or making himself some money.

    And then he whined to high heaven when she published it for her own purposes.

    Generally the most interesting Hancock-related revelations remain:
    (1) that a pint is very nearly an armful and
    (2) that Magna Carta was a brave Hungarian girl peasant girl who played a crucial part in medieval licensing law.
    He had official clearance?!
    Matt or Tony?
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,214
    edited March 2023
    Unpicking the assertion that venison is "woke" has occupied me for longer than I expected this afternoon.

    Aside from an award for extending this now-useless term to new, non-human boundaries I think where CR is coming from is this: being confronted with a menu where the choice is either 1) plant-based (why advertise that FFS. Just give each dish its title?) or 2) meat only from a source which can be regarded as "poncey" = a combined offering almost calculated to annoy on a mass scale.

    So I think it's the virtue-signally, pretentious menu that annoys rather than venison per se.

    Sorted that out. No thanks needed.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    Carnyx said:

    Chris said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    As far as I can tell, the most dramatic revelation was that he had got some kind of official clearance to release all kinds of government-related correspondence to a journalist with the idea of making himself look good and/or making himself some money.

    And then he whined to high heaven when she published it for her own purposes.

    Generally the most interesting Hancock-related revelations remain:
    (1) that a pint is very nearly an armful and
    (2) that Magna Carta was a brave Hungarian girl peasant girl who played a crucial part in medieval licensing law.
    He had official clearance?!
    You're surprised? This government gave Gavin Williamson and Huawei security clearances.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    edited March 2023
    Chris said:

    Carnyx said:

    Chris said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    As far as I can tell, the most dramatic revelation was that he had got some kind of official clearance to release all kinds of government-related correspondence to a journalist with the idea of making himself look good and/or making himself some money.

    And then he whined to high heaven when she published it for her own purposes.

    Generally the most interesting Hancock-related revelations remain:
    (1) that a pint is very nearly an armful and
    (2) that Magna Carta was a brave Hungarian girl peasant girl who played a crucial part in medieval licensing law.
    He had official clearance?!
    Matt or Tony?
    Mr M. Hancock.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    edited March 2023
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Stocky said:

    I see @Casino_Royale is having one of his woke breakdowns again.

    I hope everything is okay with him, we will all send him our best wishes I am sure.
    You might have missed my post earlier.

    I am sick and tired of you and your bullshit.

    You are a sad, cheeky, needy little shit who demeans this site daily with your bullshit shitposting and needy little appeals for friendship to anonymous posters you've never met and never will.

    It's fucking pathetic.

    You have been, repeatedly, personally rude to me for no reason and never apologised. And you persist in being sarcastic and defining yourself and your identity against me.

    FUCK YOU.

    I am sick of it. If you want to say it to myself, (you live nearby, I think?) you can fucking DM me and come and say it to my fucking face.

    Then we'll see who the big boy is.

    You massive massive wanker.

    Sending you my very best wishes.
    CR has to put up with a lot of corporate virtue signalling nonsense at work, I understand, so I should cut him a bit of slack. You are by no means the most irritating poster in this regard either.

    May I suggest a truce?
    No. We want to see the fight live streamed on YouTube with Super Chats and Super Stickers.

    CHB3 will batter Casino who will gas out in 2 minutes due to the lethargy induced by his 100% meat but not venison diet.
    Do you want some as well?

    Bet you're a fucking pansy in real life.
    Blimey. Somebody's wearing not so much the Bishop's shoes as his entire regalia.
    Don't know that expression. Sounds a useful one ...
    It's the punchline to a joke about a nun getting fucked by a bishop. Everyone tells the nun she's got out of the wrong side of the bed and she gets really arsey. Except, and here is the resolution of the liminal and subliminal narratives that is the basis of all humour, they are being literal not figurative and she really did get out of the wrong side of the bed because SHE IS WEARING THE BISHOP'S SHOES.

    Pretty sure I've heard Russ Abbott tell it with no great elan.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    WillG said:

    WillG said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I’ve started a new role which means firstly that I’ve hardly had time to check the news this week, and secondly that posting will be “lite” for some time.

    Did the Hancock WhatsApp leak actually reveal anything of interest?

    Not really. It just confirmed that the inner workings of a tory government are as banal and lackwitted as one would expect.

    No Sunak kompromat yet but we live in hope,
    Sunak is too boring for kompromat.
    The man likes Coca Cola and Star Wars. His hinterland stretches to the end of his walk-in, under-lit, wardrobe
    Nothing wrong with that.
    Yes there is. His cultural curiosity seems to have stopped aged about 13.
    If someone finds what they like at 13 and happily enjoys that the rest of his life, while following the law, being economically productive and raising kids into decent human beings, then that's great. Its better than a big chunk of the population.

    Stop being such an elitist arse. Not everyone needs to delight in Ethiopian food or Sumatran poetry. You are doing the same thing as Casino Royale, being so upset that others have different preferences to you that don't affect you one bit.
    I’m sorry, I don’t agree.
    People are better leaders if they a wider hinterland they can access.

    Sunak is a cultural man-child, and it’s one of the most/least interesting things about him. He may be the least culturally curious PM the country has ever had.
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