Mordaunt didn’t have the numbers – politicalbetting.com
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The centre-left usually dislikes Brexiteers. They seem to be making an exception for Rishi Sunak.0
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Inclined to group wordclouds with voxpops and focus groups.nico679 said:
The word cloud shown earlier suggest the public think this already .numbertwelve said:I think Labour really need to avoid the “Rishi is loaded and doesn’t care about you” angle.
Whenever Labour have tried to attack Tory PMs for their apparent wealth and privilege it has backfired. I don’t think it’s a good look.
Attack him on policy. There’s plenty they can go on.
Johnson seemed to dupe many into falling for his man of the people guff . I don’t see Sunak managing this . I suspect he’ll really help the Tories in the south but the infamous red wall will be much more difficult .
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They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.Driver said:
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.wooliedyed said:
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive conping said:Just had a “McPlant” for the first time.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.1 -
Mr Hunt isn't his minder? I can very possibly have misunderestimated Mr S, to be fair, so feel free to tell me I'm wrong. But in reality the economics are going to dominate, and no way was he going to give Mr H the boot.StuartDickson said:
He has a minder?Carnyx said:
Must say I haven't quite processed the implications for Scotland - given the four parties involved in practice, five at Holyrood. I think I need to see a few more policies from Mr S [edit] and his minder first.StuartDickson said:
Poor old FUDHY. He’ll have to script some new gobbledegook to copy n paste now that Mr Starmer is no longer the saviour of his precious ring Union.Andy_JS said:We almost have crossover on the next election / overall majority market:
NOM 2.42
Con maj 6.4
Lab maj 2.38
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.1672491950 -
Any idea when the country will hear from the new PM?0
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I think Cleverly might keep the FO. One of the few Johnsonites who isn't pure 100% dickhead. So that's a low risk, defensible way for Sunak to look broad church.IanB2 said:
Hunt isn't going anywhere!Gardenwalker said:I think the risk of malcontented ERGers and Trussites is a bit overblown. My sense is that Rishi’s coronation is broadly welcomed across factional divides.
I’m a Rishi skeptic, but I appreciate he was/is the best of a bad lot.
His first test will be Cabinet.
If he rewards talentless but early supporters like Williamson and Raab, and fails to deal with toxic Rees-Mogg and Braverman, it will be a bad sign.
If he tries to eject Hunt, ditto.
The two tests for the Cabinet appointments will be:
- does he reach out to all wings of the party? I reckon he'll pass this one, including having some right wingers along for the ride
- will the appointments be based on talent? (less politely, will he bin the nutters?) This will be the interesting one; the list of people he should ditch is long, and the question will be how much the politics pushes him to retain a few names that he shouldn't (such as Braverman)0 -
Since we left the old place we lacked daily interaction with pedantic weirdos but that gap was filled once we discovered PB.TOPPING said:Who would have thought that PB was such a hotbed of Wykehamists.
It was always the school where bright people go. You don't hear about it so much these days (this from my nieces and nephews) so presumably still as rarefied and selective as it ever was.4 -
Amazing resemblance to Albert Speer (minus arm band) in HIS salad days (pre-Spandau).AlistairM said:Medvedev going for the full Nazi look now.
Major sartorial escalation from Medvedev, who visited the Uralvagonzavod tank factory in this leather trench coat
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Hooray Spurs are unbeaten under our new PM.
Didn't get to vote but I'm ready for Rishi and don't have to tear up my (PB) Tory membership card again ...well, not yet.3 -
It's good that someone performs this unattractive task so that we don't have to. At the moment not much above the line in the Speccie is of great value either (I exempt book reviews from this generalisation).StuartDickson said:I have been monitoring the below the line comments on The Spectator for a while – call it research – and noticed over past months an uptick in racist dog whistles 1/7
https://twitter.com/chedwardes/status/1584508048537550848?s=46&t=7RE56skczd2vb2Y1_ovcfg
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I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.3 -
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.kle4 said:
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.Driver said:
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.wooliedyed said:
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive conping said:Just had a “McPlant” for the first time.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.1 -
Could have waited until Wednesday so Truss was PM for 50 days.0
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An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.Scott_xP said:Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE
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I assume that's the goal, albeit not achieved yet.Driver said:
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.kle4 said:
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.Driver said:
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.wooliedyed said:
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive conping said:Just had a “McPlant” for the first time.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.0 -
Can you give examples? I know they tried it on Cameron, but I think that didn't work due to proximity to a previous Labour government, not because it wasn't true / Tories were good at combatting it.numbertwelve said:I think Labour really need to avoid the “Rishi is loaded and doesn’t care about you” angle.
Whenever Labour have tried to attack Tory PMs for their apparent wealth and privilege it has backfired. I don’t think it’s a good look.
Attack him on policy. There’s plenty they can go on.
Considering the fact that Labour under SKS are going out of their way to make the bridge between certain Tory and Labour policies as small as possible, going after Sunak as an unlikable rich posho makes sense to me. He has Mitt Romney vibes.0 -
I sent my sons somewhere a bit more normal. But there is a slight tribal satisfaction to put against my financial losses on RS.TOPPING said:Who would have thought that PB was such a hotbed of Wykehamists.
It was always the school where bright people go. You don't hear about it so much these days (this from my nieces and nephews) so presumably still as rarefied and selective as it ever was.
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It used to be a point of honour (and a subtle boast) until fees became egregiousCarnyx said:
Why would X score a scholarship but only plump for an exhibition, please? Cos X has enough money or what?Ishmael_Z said:
Bugger these trivialities. A hot must be held, and Domum sung, forthwith. It's not every day a 218 year drought ends.DJ41 said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. Did Sunak sit the Winchester College Election exams, or didn't he? And if he did, did he put down that he wanted to be a scholar? (Some sit Election and even perform well and say they only want an exhibition - as you probably know.) We know he wasn't a scholar. I'm interested in whether he tried to be one.boulay said:DJ41 said:Neat takeover of No10 by the almost-billionaire, starting in July when he resigned from the government.
He could never have won a membership vote, but it turned out there was another route.
Questions include
1. Will someone (Banksy?) put the money up to split the Tory party? (Recall Malcolm Pearson meeting Tommy Robinson in the HoL.)
2. Did Sunak try to become a scholar at Winchester, or did he think that becoming anything other than a commoner was beyond his grasp? (What do you reckon, @Boulay?
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3. What will the Daily Mail say about the Sunak administration's imminent (Halloween) budget, or will the entire media perhaps call it Hunt's statement? (Recall the Daily Mail's joyous applause for the Truss and Kwarteng budget.)
You don’t want to be a scholar, Dynamo, otherwise you turn out like Marcus Fysh.1 -
What is timetable for LT going to palace, then RS being summoned by KCIII?0
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For me it is the utter relief that Johnson has gone and the conservative party has elected a person of decency and integrity, and having Asian origin speaks highly of our country, and yes the conservative partyGardenwalker said:Rishi was a dedicated Brexiter from a young age, probably through precocious reading of Telegraph editorials in the Maastricht era and consuming all the guff about “sclerosis”.
He is an instinctive fiscal dry, with an additional dose of Treasury orthodoxy which he clearly absorbed wholesale as CEx. Probably unsurprising as he is relatively inexperienced.
He works hard, and as a cultural “outsider” I think he is free from some of the more deranged shibboleths of Tory thinking - the thinly disguised 1950s nostalgia.
On the other hand, despite being highly articulate, he has a tendency toward insincerity, narcissism, possibly arrogance, and he presents as very out of touch. He really only understands “working people” in the very abstract.
He will be a much more worthy opponent for Keir than than Johnson or Truss.
This is going to be interesting.
I am confident he will appoint a cabinet from across the party and will be serious in tackling the awful financial position we face
He will give Starmer a different number of problems and 2 years is a long time in politics and I do expect he will close the polls in due course
However, this is not to say that Starmer will not win in 24 but his task may be a wee bit harder after today4 -
When he's PM?kle4 said:Any idea when the country will hear from the new PM?
He's Leader of the Conservatives, but until Truss resigns and HMKCIII asks him to form a government, he isn't PM.
King returning to London today, but expectation is that this will happen tomorrow.0 -
Rabbit family update. FaceTime with dad and he has big broad smile on his face at long last. 😍
In the background, Daily Mail reading mother blames Gove for the mess of the last month 😁2 -
The expectation is that it’ll happen tomorrowSeaShantyIrish2 said:What is timetable for LT going to palace, then RS being summoned by KCIII?
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Too much to hope that it can be pushed to the 1st January I think.SeaShantyIrish2 said:What is timetable for LT going to palace, then RS being summoned by KCIII?
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He's due to speak for the first time as Tory leader shortly. BBC and Sky keep showing a shot of a podium.CarlottaVance said:
When he's PM?kle4 said:Any idea when the country will hear from the new PM?
He's Leader of the Conservatives, but until Truss resigns and HMKCIII asks him to form a government, he isn't PM.
King returning to London today, but expectation is that this will happen tomorrow.0 -
Maybe he can square the circle. That is, the problem that economically we can't do without it, and politically we can't do with it.Andy_JS said:The centre-left usually dislikes Brexiteers. They seem to be making an exception for Rishi Sunak.
Perhaps in a perfect world he could do a truce with SKS thus: Let's agree in the centre ground, Tory and Labour, that taxes sometimes rise and we both accept that we say so even at election time, and that taxes fall on all but should be nicely progressive as you get richer, and that EEA/EFTA is the only solution that is both sane and honours the letter of the Brexit referendum.0 -
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?Driver said:
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.kle4 said:
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.Driver said:
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.wooliedyed said:
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive conping said:Just had a “McPlant” for the first time.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap.
I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them.
Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.0 -
In time for PMQs?SeaShantyIrish2 said:What is timetable for LT going to palace, then RS being summoned by KCIII?
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The Daily Mail is speculating that Braverman could return as Home Secretary. Surely not.0
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There was the moment in a press conference last winter, when asked if he supported Boris ‘Saville’ jibe, Rishi answered it’s not a remark he would have used himself, and straight away we could imagine a dawn across a whole new land and way of doing things.Big_G_NorthWales said:
For me it is the utter relief that Johnson has gone and the conservative party has elected a person of decency and integrity, and having Asian origin speaks highly of our country, and yes the conservative partyGardenwalker said:Rishi was a dedicated Brexiter from a young age, probably through precocious reading of Telegraph editorials in the Maastricht era and consuming all the guff about “sclerosis”.
He is an instinctive fiscal dry, with an additional dose of Treasury orthodoxy which he clearly absorbed wholesale as CEx. Probably unsurprising as he is relatively inexperienced.
He works hard, and as a cultural “outsider” I think he is free from some of the more deranged shibboleths of Tory thinking - the thinly disguised 1950s nostalgia.
On the other hand, despite being highly articulate, he has a tendency toward insincerity, narcissism, possibly arrogance, and he presents as very out of touch. He really only understands “working people” in the very abstract.
He will be a much more worthy opponent for Keir than than Johnson or Truss.
This is going to be interesting.
I am confident he will appoint a cabinet from across the party and will be serious in tackling the awful financial position we face
He will give Starmer a different number of problems and 2 years is a long time in politics and I do expect he will close the polls in due course
However, this is not to say that Starmer will not win in 24 but his task may be a wee bit harder after today
It was also the moment The Mail started howling “traitor” for the first time.0 -
I imagine KC3 is relieved. Tough trying to work out if Johnson had the confidence of the house.1
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How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .0 -
The four big tests to come
1. No ministerial job for Braverman
2. No ministerial job for Patel
3. Ditch the Rwanda policy.
4. No position whatsoever for Rees Mogg
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Are either of Rishi's parents still alive?
If so, they must be insanely proud, like only Indian parents can do - cubed!2 -
Daughter loves the model of the giant squid in the out-of-the-way anteroom (which is also conveniently located for the cafe that is usually empty because no-one knows it is there.)Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.0 -
Glad all is well in the warren.MoonRabbit said:Rabbit family update. FaceTime with dad and he has big broad smile on his face at long last. 😍
In the background, Daily Mail reading mother blames Gove for the mess of the last month 😁3 -
Sky showing live statement shortlykle4 said:Any idea when the country will hear from the new PM?
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I must have missed that controversy, what's dodgy about Teddy Roosevelt?Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
I thought he was roundly, across the aisle, accepted as one of America's greatest Presidents? What's controversial that leads to status toppling?0 -
Those letters to the nuclear submarine commanders have certainly been getting some turnover anyway.1
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Had a look at the website; didn't seem so there was anything posted recently. Or anything much! And what there was was up there with John Majors 'old maids cycling to evensong'.StillWaters said:
An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.Scott_xP said:Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE
In other news, personal news, I might not be around for a few days. Booked into hospital first thing tomorrow for a cervical decompression. Four vertebrae are involved and I won't be allowed out until I've got some mobility.
Play nicely while I'm away!7 -
Good calls, Big G and GW.Big_G_NorthWales said:
For me it is the utter relief that Johnson has gone and the conservative party has elected a person of decency and integrity, and having Asian origin speaks highly of our country, and yes the conservative partyGardenwalker said:Rishi was a dedicated Brexiter from a young age, probably through precocious reading of Telegraph editorials in the Maastricht era and consuming all the guff about “sclerosis”.
He is an instinctive fiscal dry, with an additional dose of Treasury orthodoxy which he clearly absorbed wholesale as CEx. Probably unsurprising as he is relatively inexperienced.
He works hard, and as a cultural “outsider” I think he is free from some of the more deranged shibboleths of Tory thinking - the thinly disguised 1950s nostalgia.
On the other hand, despite being highly articulate, he has a tendency toward insincerity, narcissism, possibly arrogance, and he presents as very out of touch. He really only understands “working people” in the very abstract.
He will be a much more worthy opponent for Keir than than Johnson or Truss.
This is going to be interesting.
I am confident he will appoint a cabinet from across the party and will be serious in tackling the awful financial position we face
He will give Starmer a different number of problems and 2 years is a long time in politics and I do expect he will close the polls in due course
However, this is not to say that Starmer will not win in 24 but his task may be a wee bit harder after today
Yes, it will be tougher for Starmer now but he can't have Christmas every day forever.0 -
Given that artificial sweeteners have been around for decades and drinks with them in still don't taste anything like (or as good as) equivalents with real sugar in, I won't be holding my breath...kle4 said:
I assume that's the goal, albeit not achieved yet.Driver said:
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.kle4 said:
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.Driver said:
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.wooliedyed said:
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive conping said:Just had a “McPlant” for the first time.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.1 -
Can someone explain what happens in this clip? I can’t figure it out as there seems to be no exchange between the individuals or pause in motionStuartDickson said:Rishi Sunak is becoming Prime Minister. His family is loaded so caviar and lobster on the menu for me from tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/number10cat/status/1584531605305298945?s=46&t=zwJrgd_fAg5vVIbAqlOl5w
https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/1584535572441620483?cxt=HHwWhoDTlaets_0rAAAA2 -
The statue had him on horseback, flanked by a grateful “negro” and “red indian”.BartholomewRoberts said:
I must have missed that controversy, what's dodgy about Teddy Roosevelt?Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
I thought he was roundly, across the aisle, accepted as one of America's greatest Presidents? What's controversial that leads to status toppling?2 -
Best wishes from me for a quick recovery!OldKingCole said:
Had a look at the website; didn't seem so there was anything posted recently. Or anything much! And what there was was up there with John Majors 'old maids cycling to evensong'.StillWaters said:
An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.Scott_xP said:Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE
In other news, personal news, I might not be around for a few days. Booked into hospital first thing tomorrow for a cervical decompression. Four vertebrae are involved and I won't be allowed out until I've got some mobility.
Play nicely while I'm away!3 -
Best of luck.OldKingCole said:
Had a look at the website; didn't seem so there was anything posted recently. Or anything much! And what there was was up there with John Majors 'old maids cycling to evensong'.StillWaters said:
An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.Scott_xP said:Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE
In other news, personal news, I might not be around for a few days. Booked into hospital first thing tomorrow for a cervical decompression. Four vertebrae are involved and I won't be allowed out until I've got some mobility.
Play nicely while I'm away!
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Sounds nasty, OKC. Good luck and hurry back.OldKingCole said:
Had a look at the website; didn't seem so there was anything posted recently. Or anything much! And what there was was up there with John Majors 'old maids cycling to evensong'.StillWaters said:
An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.Scott_xP said:Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE
In other news, personal news, I might not be around for a few days. Booked into hospital first thing tomorrow for a cervical decompression. Four vertebrae are involved and I won't be allowed out until I've got some mobility.
Play nicely while I'm away!5 -
I remember seeing Mrs Thatcher resign when I was 8 years old. So far as I could understand it felt like a significant event. Then in 1997 we had the Labour landslide and again a new PM. This felt significant because the win was so large and I only had the briefest memory of Thatcher as PM.
So we have a new government but it just feels like something that happens all the time now.0 -
“EVERYONE GETS A RISHI HUG!”
Matt Hancock: 😃
“Not you”
Matt Hancock: 😐
https://twitter.com/jamesorharry/status/1584558158252748802/video/13 -
I believe that is what is called a "joke".Mexicanpete said:
I remember Jeremy Clarkson on (old) Top Gear saying in 1997, "so you've all voted communist" and without sanction. BBC impartiality is an absolute crock- see my comment re: the Cenotaph.Andy_JS said:
It really isn't. BBC journalists are supposed to be neutral.nico679 said:
Ridiculous over reaction by the BBC. They could have just said she’s been reminded about the impartiality rules and warned and left it at that . The BBC are clearly terrified of the Tories and their mission to destroy the organization.CarlottaVance said:BBC takes Martine Croxall off air for potential breach of impartiality over Johnson
https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/15845469124762705940 -
Cleverly might get a job. He has less of a track record of being a fool.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .
He needs a headbanger, but Braverman really shouldn't get a job after quitting/sacking so soon. Patel failed too, so needs another option.0 -
It's edited. It's part of a Sky News segment about a Green budget.StillWaters said:
Can someone explain what happens in this clip? I can’t figure it out as there seems to be no exchange between the individuals or pause in motionStuartDickson said:Rishi Sunak is becoming Prime Minister. His family is loaded so caviar and lobster on the menu for me from tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/number10cat/status/1584531605305298945?s=46&t=zwJrgd_fAg5vVIbAqlOl5w
https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/1584535572441620483?cxt=HHwWhoDTlaets_0rAAAA1 -
Very disappointing from Sunak so far. Nothing much seems to have changed.
At least Truss got on with it.1 -
Agree, but I'd settle for him firing Mogg, three times.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .3 -
Can relate to this.MarqueeMark said:Are either of Rishi's parents still alive?
If so, they must be insanely proud, like only Indian parents can do - cubed!
We are on the brink of getting our first British Asian Prime Minister. Spare a thought for us with Indian mums who are about to get absolutely rinsed about our lack of success.
https://twitter.com/ayeshahazarika/status/1584292613212946432?s=46&t=ZwoNMRsfHMNZdAMgET03Pw5 -
Haven’t discovered that yet!mwadams said:
Daughter loves the model of the giant squid in the out-of-the-way anteroom (which is also conveniently located for the cafe that is usually empty because no-one knows it is there.)Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.1 -
(1) He wasn't rejected overwhelmingly.mwadams said:The Bruges Group have given us the benefit of their wisdom:
"Rishi Sunak was rejected overwhelmingly by Conservative Party Members mere weeks ago.
MPs are about to crown him leader regardless.
It’s a decision which will alienate activists (upon whom MPs rely to campaign on their behalf), with significant ramifications for the next GE."
https://twitter.com/BrugesGroup/status/1584531598858326016?s=20&t=sv8Fxix-__t7ERHS61szeA
(2) We have a Parliamentary democracy.7 -
Out of a cannon.Peter_the_Punter said:
Agree, but I'd settle for him firing Mogg, three times.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .1 -
Hey! I'm a finickity weirdo, thank you very much.boulay said:
Since we left the old place we lacked daily interaction with pedantic weirdos but that gap was filled once we discovered PB.TOPPING said:Who would have thought that PB was such a hotbed of Wykehamists.
It was always the school where bright people go. You don't hear about it so much these days (this from my nieces and nephews) so presumably still as rarefied and selective as it ever was.1 -
Baker and/or IDS are both - in their own unique ways! - less nuts and toxic than Patel or Braverman.kle4 said:
Cleverly might get a job. He has less of a track record of being a fool.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .
He needs a headbanger, but Braverman really shouldn't get a job after quitting/sacking so soon. Patel failed too, so needs another option.0 -
He also blew away vast quantities of wildlife, esp. on a widely publicised world tour safari. No idea if that helped or not (some of the collected items ended up in the AMNH and/or the Smithsonian in DC, I believe?)Gardenwalker said:
The statue had him on horseback, flanked by a grateful “negro” and “red indian”.BartholomewRoberts said:
I must have missed that controversy, what's dodgy about Teddy Roosevelt?Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
I thought he was roundly, across the aisle, accepted as one of America's greatest Presidents? What's controversial that leads to status toppling?0 -
Get well soon!OldKingCole said:
Had a look at the website; didn't seem so there was anything posted recently. Or anything much! And what there was was up there with John Majors 'old maids cycling to evensong'.StillWaters said:
An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.Scott_xP said:Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE
In other news, personal news, I might not be around for a few days. Booked into hospital first thing tomorrow for a cervical decompression. Four vertebrae are involved and I won't be allowed out until I've got some mobility.
Play nicely while I'm away!
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Braverman would be a bad move . Immediate attacks as to why she’s back in that job after breaking the ministerial code .kle4 said:
Cleverly might get a job. He has less of a track record of being a fool.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .
He needs a headbanger, but Braverman really shouldn't get a job after quitting/sacking so soon. Patel failed too, so needs another option.1 -
It has been meetings Monday and Teams has twatted up successive meetings in entirely different ways. It (sadly) is now entirely integrated into the infrastructure I use - I just wish it would work consistently.Richard_Nabavi said:Meanwhile, Microsoft Teams hasn't got any better...
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Starts off with a tribute to Truss.0
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Good luck OKC. Hope it goes well and see you on here again soon!OldKingCole said:
Had a look at the website; didn't seem so there was anything posted recently. Or anything much! And what there was was up there with John Majors 'old maids cycling to evensong'.StillWaters said:
An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.Scott_xP said:Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vyj1C8ogtE
In other news, personal news, I might not be around for a few days. Booked into hospital first thing tomorrow for a cervical decompression. Four vertebrae are involved and I won't be allowed out until I've got some mobility.
Play nicely while I'm away!3 -
Short and sweet - strange pause at the end. For photos I guess.0
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BBC commentary.
"Well, that was... short.."0 -
It is photoshopped to make a point in the voiceover about green budgetsStillWaters said:
Can someone explain what happens in this clip? I can’t figure it out as there seems to be no exchange between the individuals or pause in motionStuartDickson said:Rishi Sunak is becoming Prime Minister. His family is loaded so caviar and lobster on the menu for me from tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/number10cat/status/1584531605305298945?s=46&t=zwJrgd_fAg5vVIbAqlOl5w
https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/1584535572441620483?cxt=HHwWhoDTlaets_0rAAAA
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/briefcase-changes-color/
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I blinked and missed itBig_G_NorthWales said:
Sky showing live statement shortlykle4 said:Any idea when the country will hear from the new PM?
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Steve Baker is the thinking person's headbanger. If it is him instead of Rees-Mogg, Dorries, Patel, Braverman then I can live with thatkle4 said:
Cleverly might get a job. He has less of a track record of being a fool.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .
He needs a headbanger, but Braverman really shouldn't get a job after quitting/sacking so soon. Patel failed too, so needs another option.2 -
I thought the story was that Rishi didn't become a lawyer or a doctor, and so he settled for PM as the next best thing for his parents.TheScreamingEagles said:
Can relate to this.MarqueeMark said:Are either of Rishi's parents still alive?
If so, they must be insanely proud, like only Indian parents can do - cubed!
We are on the brink of getting our first British Asian Prime Minister. Spare a thought for us with Indian mums who are about to get absolutely rinsed about our lack of success.
https://twitter.com/ayeshahazarika/status/1584292613212946432?s=46&t=ZwoNMRsfHMNZdAMgET03Pw4 -
Are we discussing the same museum? I was thinking the American Museum of Natural History in NY but the squid reminds me of the NHM in South Ken.Gardenwalker said:
Haven’t discovered that yet!mwadams said:
Daughter loves the model of the giant squid in the out-of-the-way anteroom (which is also conveniently located for the cafe that is usually empty because no-one knows it is there.)Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.0 -
How about a strong and stable Home Secretary?kle4 said:
Cleverly might get a job. He has less of a track record of being a fool.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .
He needs a headbanger, but Braverman really shouldn't get a job after quitting/sacking so soon. Patel failed too, so needs another option.
After all, it was Theresa May who originally argued that we should leave the ECHR.1 -
You need to add "...as expected." to the end of that.Nigelb said:BBC commentary.
"Well, that was... short.."1 -
I would be very happy to see JRM get a peerage from Bozo's resignation list even if it was added on in very wet ink.Peter_the_Punter said:
Agree, but I'd settle for him firing Mogg, three times.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .1 -
He's the eldest of three children, so he'd be pretty unlucky if both had died, but Wikipedia doesn't say.MarqueeMark said:Are either of Rishi's parents still alive?
If so, they must be insanely proud, like only Indian parents can do - cubed!
If he was my child I would breathe more easily once he'd made it to 50 days...2 -
He’s as Indian as Johnson is Turkish…TOPPING said:
Thing is, we (normal ex-Cons members) used up a lot of our relief once Boris left and Liz took over. Yes we knew she would be bad but quite how catastrophically bad how quickly took us a bit by surprise.StuartDickson said:Is @Scott_xP voting Tory again yet?
As a result we are cautious about Rishi. Our loving the fact that Boris is no longer there has been watered down somewhat and our goodwill in less abundant supply.
Let's see what Rishi does - he was a leaver for example but maybe he realises the damage that that did (or perhaps he didn't really believe it in the first place). Either way, we have yet to see his true colours.
Can't speak for Scott, obvs.
I would also say that it is fantastic having someone of Indian origin as PM of the UK. We should all take a moment to ponder that.
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Hopefully this is the DM trying to put their preferred candidate forward . Seeing as they’d always go for the most hateful one on offer .DavidL said:
That would be seriously disappointing, to understate it somewhat.Andy_JS said:The Daily Mail is speculating that Braverman could return as Home Secretary. Surely not.
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5. Find a route through Austerity which doesn't cause widespread cold and hunger this winterRoger said:The four big tests to come
1. No ministerial job for Braverman
2. No ministerial job for Patel
3. Ditch the Rwanda policy.
4. No position whatsoever for Rees Mogg
6. Display the same level of pragmatism towards trade and migration that he showed when dropping the Furlough scheme onto us0 -
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For how much faffing they did setting up that lectern, that was a bit of a waste of time, wasn't it.0
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I googled it, apparently the AMNH does indeed have a giant squid, fished up in NZ waters of all places…Carnyx said:
Are we discussing the same museum? I was thinking the American Museum of Natural History in NY but the squid reminds me of the NHM in South Ken.Gardenwalker said:
Haven’t discovered that yet!mwadams said:
Daughter loves the model of the giant squid in the out-of-the-way anteroom (which is also conveniently located for the cafe that is usually empty because no-one knows it is there.)Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.0 -
On an entertainment programme, not a news programme...rcs1000 said:
I believe that is what is called a "joke".Mexicanpete said:
I remember Jeremy Clarkson on (old) Top Gear saying in 1997, "so you've all voted communist" and without sanction. BBC impartiality is an absolute crock- see my comment re: the Cenotaph.Andy_JS said:
It really isn't. BBC journalists are supposed to be neutral.nico679 said:
Ridiculous over reaction by the BBC. They could have just said she’s been reminded about the impartiality rules and warned and left it at that . The BBC are clearly terrified of the Tories and their mission to destroy the organization.CarlottaVance said:BBC takes Martine Croxall off air for potential breach of impartiality over Johnson
https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/15845469124762705940 -
"The Standing at the Back Dressed Cleverly and Looking Cleverly Party"kle4 said:
Cleverly might get a job. He has less of a track record of being a fool.nico679 said:How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .
He needs a headbanger, but Braverman really shouldn't get a job after quitting/sacking so soon. Patel failed too, so needs another option.3 -
I find it's pretty good once you actually get into the meeting. It's all the dross that they've superimposed on top of it which is a disaster, such as account management.RochdalePioneers said:
It has been meetings Monday and Teams has twatted up successive meetings in entirely different ways. It (sadly) is now entirely integrated into the infrastructure I use - I just wish it would work consistently.Richard_Nabavi said:Meanwhile, Microsoft Teams hasn't got any better...
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Oh . . . yeah that isn't a good look.Gardenwalker said:
The statue had him on horseback, flanked by a grateful “negro” and “red indian”.BartholomewRoberts said:
I must have missed that controversy, what's dodgy about Teddy Roosevelt?Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
I thought he was roundly, across the aisle, accepted as one of America's greatest Presidents? What's controversial that leads to status toppling?
But not an issue with Teddy himself then? Not expecting any defacing of Mount Rushmore any time soon?0 -
It would be Sunak's first major mistake to appoint Braverman to anything. She has just resigned having admitted breaking the Ministerial Code. Some time on the backbenches is the minimum punishment.
If Sunak is serious about governing with integrity, this is his first test.7 -
Labour needs to challenge Sunak's perceived strengths. I guess today that is that he is different to Johnson and more moderate than Truss.
So his record as Johnson's faithful number two carefully building up our debt and his right-wing background wanting to move money from North to South are all relevant.3 -
He is not even PM yet, and you want to have a go much like the news presenters who expect him to provide the lecturn speech he will give tomorrow in front of no 10 once he has met CharlesNorthern_Al said:Very disappointing from Sunak so far. Nothing much seems to have changed.
At least Truss got on with it.
If anything else I hope we move into an era of grown up politics and media presentations, but will not hold my breath2 -
Braverman sounds mad. She's only just resigned and she was total rubbish. I hope he hasn't had to do deals with the headbangers.3
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Welcome back, Scrapheap.Scrapheap_as_was said:Hooray Spurs are unbeaten under our new PM.
Didn't get to vote but I'm ready for Rishi and don't have to tear up my (PB) Tory membership card again ...well, not yet.2 -
So it does, and also a life reconstruction model (squids being rather squishy and needing lots of pickling liquid).Gardenwalker said:
I googled it, apparently the AMNH does indeed have a giant squid, fished up in NZ waters of all places…Carnyx said:
Are we discussing the same museum? I was thinking the American Museum of Natural History in NY but the squid reminds me of the NHM in South Ken.Gardenwalker said:
Haven’t discovered that yet!mwadams said:
Daughter loves the model of the giant squid in the out-of-the-way anteroom (which is also conveniently located for the cafe that is usually empty because no-one knows it is there.)Gardenwalker said:I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
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Robot Rishi could be a problem. That isn't who he is at all! The genuine warmth and ability to do human which I have seen first hand needs to be put in front of the cameras, not what he has just done.0
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It really ought not to be much of a test. It is not as if she is a strong performer.Northern_Al said:It would be Sunak's first major mistake to appoint Braverman to anything. She has just resigned having admitted breaking the Ministerial Code. Some time on the backbenches is the minimum punishment.
If Sunak is serious about governing with integrity, this is his first test.0 -
Yes it was inadequate and a bit strange.RochdalePioneers said:Robot Rishi could be a problem. That isn't who he is at all! The genuine warmth and ability to do human which I have seen first hand needs to be put in front of the cameras, not what he has just done.
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While I strongly disagree with Rishi Sunak’s politics and question his mandate, it’s important to recognise the significance of Britain’s first Prime Minister of South Asian heritage.
It’s not something our grandparents would ever have imagined when they made the UK home.
https://twitter.com/AnasSarwar/status/15845616068011212823 -
Oh, Big G. My comment was so obviously a joke. Of course Sunak hasn't done anything yet.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is not even PM yet, and you want to have a go much like the news presenters who expect him to provide the lecturn speech he will give tomorrow in front of no 10 once he has met CharlesNorthern_Al said:Very disappointing from Sunak so far. Nothing much seems to have changed.
At least Truss got on with it.
If anything else I hope we move into an era of grown up politics and media presentations, but will not hold my breath3
