More high level calls between Russia and Western officials:
@DefenceHQ A statement on the Chief of the Defence Staff’s call with the Russian Chief of the General Staff, General of the Army Valery Vasilyevich Gerasimov
The Chief of the Defence staff guffawed loudly when his Russian counterpart suggested Ukraine was seeking escalate, and suggested that escalation kinda started with Russia's invasion.
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
When the Tories lose the General Election will Rishi stand down? I don't believe any Tory has stayed in post when they have lost an election for 50 years. History would suggest he would go. Penny I'm sure will be chomping at the bit but it will be at least 5 years in opposition.
Howard stood down not because he had lost but because he felt he had underperformed, ie lost by too wide a margin.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
So the question is whether they're over their adicktion?
I was concerned that Boris Johnson had become a Dick-tator
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
When the Tories lose the General Election will Rishi stand down? I don't believe any Tory has stayed in post when they have lost an election for 50 years. History would suggest he would go. Penny I'm sure will be chomping at the bit but it will be at least 5 years in opposition.
Howard stood down not because he had lost but because he felt he had underperformed, ie lost by too wide a margin.
He was also getting on a bit. And unlike Corbyn, was under no illusions as to the demands of the role.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
So the question is whether they're over their adicktion?
I was concerned that Boris Johnson had become a Dick-tator
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
In that case, don't give her education. It's even more of a car crash department than the Home Office, because the civil servants in it are so very dumb (even when sober).
On a serious point, any ambitious young politician wanting to avoid pitfalls but make a name for themselves should aim for Business, dealing with energy and trade deals.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
You are now on the CCHQ data base, when they are looking for a gigolo...
However his rise to be PM is a really great thing. Skin colour will hopefully never be an issue in the UK ever again.
I hope you are right. Though the number of people spouting the "we've tried a woman and I don't think we should do that again" line contra-PM4PM makes me fear we aren't exactly on solid ground in that regard.
South Holland and the Deepings safer than it was yesterday - now just an extreme Con/Lab marginal.
The serious betting question is this: Will 2022-2024 be a repeat of 1992 (ERM disaster)-1997, ending with Tory rout despite doing sort of OK as a government; or does a new leader + the fact that things happen more quickly than in the medieval 1990s mean the Tories have a chance of recovery?
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
In that case, don't give her education. It's even more of a car crash department than the Home Office, because the civil servants in it are so very dumb (even when sober).
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
In that case, don't give her education. It's even more of a car crash department than the Home Office, because the civil servants in it are so very dumb (even when sober).
"don't give her education." Boko haram motto.
Yeees...I accept that could have been better phrased.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
You are now on the CCHQ data base, when they are looking for a gigolo...
It was quite a small one IIRC. It still gives me a sort of adolescent thrill of amusement imagining someone there opening it up thinking that they had received a donation
So in accelerating growth, I have three priorities. Priorities that I believe will foster a new culture of enterprise and deliver a higher growth rate. The first is to encourage greater levels of capital investment by our businesses. Second, we need to improve the technical skills of the tens of millions of people already in work. And third, we want to make this the most innovative economy in the world by driving up business investment in research and development.
Capital. People. Ideas. Three priorities to deliver higher productivity, tied with one golden thread: that what government does is far less important than creating the conditions for private businesses and individuals to thrive. Let me take each priority in turn.
Excoriates unfunded tax cuts “which DON’T pay for themselves”.
Worth a read.
They have just asked why Sunak unlike all his colleagues from the City supported Brexit. Apparently the reason is that though the City were all for Remain the hedge fund group to which Rishi belonged would do very well out of Brexit.....
So he's basically a speculator. Just what we don't need.......
Calling Moonrabbit..... You've got your first convert
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
In that case, don't give her education. It's even more of a car crash department than the Home Office, because the civil servants in it are so very dumb (even when sober).
On a serious point, any ambitious young politician wanting to avoid pitfalls but make a name for themselves should aim for Business, dealing with energy and trade deals.
As indeed we saw with Truss.
As Cicero pointed out the greater the difficulty, the greater the glory. And the economy and the country really need education to up its game north and south of the border.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
You are now on the CCHQ data base, when they are looking for a gigolo...
It was quite a small one IIRC. It still gives me a sort of adolescent thrill of amusement imagining someone there opening it up thinking that they had received a donation
FUN FACT: Between the end of 2005 and Mario Draghi stepping down Sunday, the G-7 economies always featured at least one ex-Goldman Sachs banker as premier, central bank chief or finance minister.
The run resumes once Rishi Sunak takes the UK's helm.
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
In that case, don't give her education. It's even more of a car crash department than the Home Office, because the civil servants in it are so very dumb (even when sober).
On a serious point, any ambitious young politician wanting to avoid pitfalls but make a name for themselves should aim for Business, dealing with energy and trade deals.
As indeed we saw with Truss.
As Cicero pointed out the greater the difficulty, the greater the glory. And the economy and the country really need education to up its game north and south of the border.
Nobody has ever gained glory at education.
Nor will they.
The problems are too intractable and can't be sorted out by a government which is, usually probably with excellent intentions, causing most of them.
South Holland and the Deepings safer than it was yesterday - now just an extreme Con/Lab marginal.
The serious betting question is this: Will 2022-2024 be a repeat of 1992 (ERM disaster)-1997, ending with Tory rout despite doing sort of OK as a government; or does a new leader + the fact that things happen more quickly than in the medieval 1990s mean the Tories have a chance of recovery?
SKS's shooting fish in a barrel licence has expired, PMQs will be Dull and Duller. Tory vote will recover markedly from where it is now and the recovery will last because it isn't a honeymoon it is isostatic rebound from boz n liz. But sks next PM still a safe bet.
Lol. I am delighted such brainless twats are leaving the Conservative Party. Not before time. This post on that feed had me absolutely delighted ("brilliant mini-budget" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣):
@SusanBanbury1 and 2 others Well said it’s how we all feel. I resigned when Hunt became Chancellor and Liz was forced to do the U turns on her brilliant mini budget which has now been confirmed by many experts after they have u turned as soon as she was removed against our wishes.
What are the odds, that some of the more questionable (to put it mildly) selections for Boris Johnson's DisHonours List will NOT get their unjust payoffs?
AND also that Liz Truss will get no list at all for her 15 minutes of infamy as badly-acting Prime Minister?
South Holland and the Deepings safer than it was yesterday - now just an extreme Con/Lab marginal.
The serious betting question is this: Will 2022-2024 be a repeat of 1992 (ERM disaster)-1997, ending with Tory rout despite doing sort of OK as a government; or does a new leader + the fact that things happen more quickly than in the medieval 1990s mean the Tories have a chance of recovery?
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
In that case, don't give her education. It's even more of a car crash department than the Home Office, because the civil servants in it are so very dumb (even when sober).
On a serious point, any ambitious young politician wanting to avoid pitfalls but make a name for themselves should aim for Business, dealing with energy and trade deals.
As indeed we saw with Truss.
As Cicero pointed out the greater the difficulty, the greater the glory. And the economy and the country really need education to up its game north and south of the border.
Not possible without a lot of money and a wholesale change in how education works.
We've commented on this in the past, but we really need to change things round - use "homework" for some of the video lessons (with way better quality teaching) and using school time / teachers to actually spend time making sure people understand what they were shown in those video lessons.
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
When the Tories lose the General Election will Rishi stand down? I don't believe any Tory has stayed in post when they have lost an election for 50 years. History would suggest he would go. Penny I'm sure will be chomping at the bit but it will be at least 5 years in opposition.
If its next year and not too bad a defeat, maybe. But I doubt it.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
You are now on the CCHQ data base, when they are looking for a gigolo...
It was quite a small one IIRC. It still gives me a sort of adolescent thrill of amusement imagining someone there opening it up thinking that they had received a donation
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
What about Benjamin Disraeli?
Benjamin Disraeli opens a whole can of worms around whether Judaism is an ethnicity or a religion. Fwiw, in religious terms, Disraeli was Christian.
It is obviously an ethnicity linked to a religion. No can of worms at all unless your name is Jeremy Corbyn
As someone married into that ethnicity/religion, I would say it is indeed incredibly complex. Some Jews identify as an ethnicity, others as a religion, others almost only as some sort of cultural or intellectual affiliation or worldview. The European-Jewish inheritance.
On purely the ethnic front alone as per the discussion below, the average European component mix for European Jews is actually around 75%, from the DNA figures, IIRC.
One of my Grandmas was Jewish, though the family adopted Catholicism in an attempt to protect themselves from anti-Semitism. I'd consider myself part-Jewish as a result, but not part-Catholic.
Lol. I am delighted such brainless twats are leaving the Conservative Party. Not before time. This post on that feed had me absolutely delighted ("brilliant mini-budget" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣):
@SusanBanbury1 and 2 others Well said it’s how we all feel. I resigned when Hunt became Chancellor and Liz was forced to do the U turns on her brilliant mini budget which has now been confirmed by many experts after they have u turned as soon as she was removed against our wishes.
Elizabe62115581 with egg profile pic and only joined a few months ago....timeline again diatribe of retweets.
Perhaps we can knock it off the bot / troll accounts.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
'one time doner'? Hmm, Do I or do I not start one of those annoying PB punning threads?
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
In that case, don't give her education. It's even more of a car crash department than the Home Office, because the civil servants in it are so very dumb (even when sober).
On a serious point, any ambitious young politician wanting to avoid pitfalls but make a name for themselves should aim for Business, dealing with energy and trade deals.
As indeed we saw with Truss.
As Cicero pointed out the greater the difficulty, the greater the glory. And the economy and the country really need education to up its game north and south of the border.
Not possible without a lot of money and a wholesale change in how education works.
We've commented on this in the past, but we really need to change things round - use "homework" for some of the video lessons (with way better quality teaching) and using school time / teachers to actually spend time making sure people understand what they were shown in those video lessons.
Although that would require decent video lessons. The government offering from Oak National Academy is mostly a sick joke.
So in accelerating growth, I have three priorities. Priorities that I believe will foster a new culture of enterprise and deliver a higher growth rate. The first is to encourage greater levels of capital investment by our businesses. Second, we need to improve the technical skills of the tens of millions of people already in work. And third, we want to make this the most innovative economy in the world by driving up business investment in research and development.
Capital. People. Ideas. Three priorities to deliver higher productivity, tied with one golden thread: that what government does is far less important than creating the conditions for private businesses and individuals to thrive. Let me take each priority in turn.
Excoriates unfunded tax cuts “which DON’T pay for themselves”.
Worth a read.
They have just asked why Sunak unlike all his colleagues from the City supported Brexit. Apparently the reason is that though the City were all for Remain the hedge fund group to which Rishi belonged would do very well out of Brexit.....
So he's basically a speculator. Just what we don't need.......
Calling Moonrabbit..... You've got your first convert
Since you’ve not read the speech, perhaps you’d prefer to not watch the video?
Betfair have already got a new next Conservative Leader market up.
Lol.
Kemi will be the next leader (and LOTO) IMO.
She needs to be given control of a significant department, like Education, and make improvements in it with no more than the minimum of mistakes. As does Penny, of course. That way we can test whether their skills are relevant to the job.
In that case, don't give her education. It's even more of a car crash department than the Home Office, because the civil servants in it are so very dumb (even when sober).
On a serious point, any ambitious young politician wanting to avoid pitfalls but make a name for themselves should aim for Business, dealing with energy and trade deals.
As indeed we saw with Truss.
As Cicero pointed out the greater the difficulty, the greater the glory. And the economy and the country really need education to up its game north and south of the border.
Not possible without a lot of money and a wholesale change in how education works.
We've commented on this in the past, but we really need to change things round - use "homework" for some of the video lessons (with way better quality teaching) and using school time / teachers to actually spend time making sure people understand what they were shown in those video lessons.
Although that would require decent video lessons. The government offering from Oak National Academy is mostly a sick joke.
Oh I know that - I was just trying to work out how you could improve education without wasting another few 10s of billions.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
You are now on the CCHQ data base, when they are looking for a gigolo...
It was quite a small one IIRC. It still gives me a sort of adolescent thrill of amusement imagining someone there opening it up thinking that they had received a donation
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
'one time doner'? Hmm, Do I or do I not start one of those annoying PB punning threads?
Now, there's a man who needs to get his shift key checked. It seems to be engaging at random points. Then, after that, the apostrophe and exclamation mark keys. But shift key first, I'd say.
Grammar and spelling-checker also need an upgrade.
Also he needs to buy a copy of Dicey, and read the chapter on how a Prime Minister is determined.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
'one time doner'? Hmm, Do I or do I not start one of those annoying PB punning threads?
You're more of a shish man now?
Barry Humphries flatly declined to eat doner kebabs because you are never quite certain who the doner was...
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
What about Benjamin Disraeli?
Benjamin Disraeli opens a whole can of worms around whether Judaism is an ethnicity or a religion. Fwiw, in religious terms, Disraeli was Christian.
It is obviously an ethnicity linked to a religion. No can of worms at all unless your name is Jeremy Corbyn
As someone married into that ethnicity/religion, I would say it is indeed incredibly complex. Some Jews identify as an ethnicity, others as a religion, others almost only as some sort of cultural or intellectual affiliation or worldview. The European-Jewish inheritance.
On purely the ethnic front alone as per the discussion below, the average European component mix for European Jews is actually around 75%, from the DNA figures, IIRC.
Wife is half-Jewish.
The bit that isn't loves a bacon sandwich. The bit that is feels very guilty about it.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
'one time doner'? Hmm, Do I or do I not start one of those annoying PB punning threads?
You're more of a shish man now?
Barry Humphries flatly declined to eat doner kebabs because you are never quite certain who the doner was...
Reminds me of the joke of my student rag mags about a certain person not wanting to eat fish fingers because he didn't know where they had been.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
You are now on the CCHQ data base, when they are looking for a gigolo...
It was quite a small one IIRC. It still gives me a sort of adolescent thrill of amusement imagining someone there opening it up thinking that they had received a donation
Do you suppose they spermed your offer?
Perhaps they thought it was a second coming
Load of nonsense if you ask me
It took a certain amount of spunk to have the courage to do it
So I am disheartened when I hear the flippant claim that ‘tax cuts always pay for themselves’. They do not. Cutting tax sustainably requires hard work, prioritisation, and the willingness to make difficult and often unpopular arguments elsewhere. And it is hard to cut taxes at a time when demands on the state are growing.….
“The notion that tax cuts, without any spending cuts or substitute source of revenue, will so stimulate the economy that the Budget balance will improve, enabling further tax cuts to be made…is a spurious kind of virtuous circle [and] emphatically not part of my thinking”. Not my words – those of Nigel Lawson.….
I cannot see any Putin replacement forcing the war harder - because if they wanted that, they'd just keep Putin in place. I really don't see Putin being as a roadblock in Russian barbarity.
The only significant political pressure on VVP inside Russia with regard to the SMO is from those who consider that it's being executed incompetently and with insufficient aggression.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
So I am disheartened when I hear the flippant claim that ‘tax cuts always pay for themselves’. They do not. Cutting tax sustainably requires hard work, prioritisation, and the willingness to make difficult and often unpopular arguments elsewhere. And it is hard to cut taxes at a time when demands on the state are growing.….
“The notion that tax cuts, without any spending cuts or substitute source of revenue, will so stimulate the economy that the Budget balance will improve, enabling further tax cuts to be made…is a spurious kind of virtuous circle [and] emphatically not part of my thinking”. Not my words – those of Nigel Lawson.….
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Shame it wasn't exactly 40 days and 40 nights. That would have had a certain Biblical beauty to it. If it rains on St. Liz's Day you will have political turmoil for 40 days and 40 nights.
Anyone who has ever visited Stockholm will likely have seen the amazing Vasa warship, built 1626-28. An astonishing sight.
Well, marine archaeologists have just found her sister ship: Äpplet (’The Apple’). What are the chances?
Fabulous fact about Vasa
The use of different measuring systems on either side of the vessel caused its mass to be distributed asymmetrically, heavier to port. During construction both Swedish feet and Amsterdam feet were in use by different teams. Archaeologists have found four rulers used by the workmen who built the ship. Two were calibrated in Swedish feet, which had 12 inches, while the other two measured Amsterdam feet, which had 11 inches.[62]
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
He also presided over keeping a very large number of businesses in business and a lot of people away from the dole queue.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
He also presided over keeping a very large number of businesses in business and a lot of people away from the dole queue.
Anyway, I suspect for each one that leaves, two of us will bounce back to the party to replace him.
Yep, I am thinking of rejoining. They might refuse me, because when they last sent me a begging letter (as I was a one time doner) I drew a big cock and balls on the letter and sent it back in the prepaid envelope.
So the question is whether they're over their adicktion?
I was concerned that Boris Johnson had become a Dick-tator
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
A misunderstanding. Sunak said you can't borrow to pay for tax cuts. Liz did that. That's what caused the meltdown.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
You do realise the Chancellor isn’t the boss and so cannot do what he wants so if the top dog wants a certain direction or policies the Chancellor has limited room for manoeuvre. They can influence, argue or explain but ultimately the PM sets the direction.
You could be the best Chancellor in the world but if your PM says he wants to spaff money on x, y and z you can do it but hope to rein in excesses or nix certain elements or resign and let someone more pliable take over - ironically how Sunak got the job which worked well for Boris when it didn’t go as he hoped on the pliability front.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
A misunderstanding. Sunak said you can't borrow to pay for tax cuts. Liz did that. That's what caused the meltdown.
Sunak borrowed to pay for Covid, energy bills, and his leadership ambitions. The difference is he did it earlier, when interest rates were on the floor. Sunak 2: The Cutter is going to look starkly different to Sunak 1: The Spender.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
No one could do sincerity like Blair tbf.
As Michael Flanders once said: “always be sincere, especially when you don’t mean it.”
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
Sunak was the architect of the hugely successful furlough scheme and in case you have forgotten introduced a windfall tax on energy
You clearly do not like him but maybe opposition supporters protest too much, as they see a very different decent and honest PM taking the fight to labour
Just got fifty quid on Fetterman @ evens in Pennsylvania. I know it's tight but it's not that tight.
If rust belt polling is going to stab me in the back again then so be it - I had vowed not to put money on these midterms for the same reason I didn't in 2018 (high voter engagement rendering polling turnout models useless) but that is a value bet in my estimation.
EDIT: I suppose I'm continually drawn back to the Kansas abortion referendum. The polling had Yes winning (checks notes) 52/48. In the end No won 41/59.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
A misunderstanding. Sunak said you can't borrow to pay for tax cuts. Liz did that. That's what caused the meltdown.
Truss inherited a powder keg. She foolishly set it off as you point out, but the massive borrowing she inherited created the conditions for the explosion. Sunak is at least partly responsible for that.
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
Sunak was the architect of the hugely successful furlough scheme and in case you have forgotten introduced a windfall tax on energy
You clearly do not like him but maybe opposition supporters protest too much, as they see a very different decent and honest PM taking the fight to labour
It was successful because he borrowed promising to repay later, and the energy tax was a tiny percentage of the energy bills stimulus. Basically, Sunak is very good when he is allowed spend tens of billions more than he taxes, which isn't the world he's entering right now.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
Sunak was the architect of the hugely successful furlough scheme and in case you have forgotten introduced a windfall tax on energy
You clearly do not like him but maybe opposition supporters protest too much, as they see a very different decent and honest PM taking the fight to labour
I just think you are glad that you got anyone but Boris. I don't blame you. But dig a little deeper and there are a few question marks over Sunak.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
That clip of Sunak’s initial speech is awful. Comes across as even more wooden than Truss and totally fake.
He needs to loosen up.
Hopefully he’ll grow into the role.
I've previously thought that Sunak has come across as too slick, like an arrogant second hand car salesman that I instantly distrust.
A bit of wooden might help dispel that impression.
Yes it's fine. He's probably and understandably shellshocked. I just don't care about all that 'charisma' thing now. In fact the less of it the better.
I do wish the media would stop droning on about how long Sunaks speech was . I don’t care if he’s wooden . Dull politicians are very welcome after the clown show !
Politicians should be judged on what they do and not how long a speech is or whether they’re entertaining.
I do wish the media would stop droning on about how long Sunaks speech was . I don’t care if he’s wooden . Dull politicians are very welcome after the clown show !
Politicians should be judged on what they do and not how long a speech is or whether they’re entertaining.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
Sunak was the architect of the hugely successful furlough scheme and in case you have forgotten introduced a windfall tax on energy
You clearly do not like him but maybe opposition supporters protest too much, as they see a very different decent and honest PM taking the fight to labour
I just think you are glad that you got anyone but Boris. I don't blame you. But dig a little deeper and there are a few question marks over Sunak.
He will answer them in the fullness of time but yes I am delighted Johnson has gone and he did forsee everything that went wrong with Truss and has been vindicated
Tomorrow will see the start of a very different conservative party but it has an enormous task to regain trust
Thing is, we (normal ex-Cons members) used up a lot of our relief once Boris left and Liz took over. Yes we knew she would be bad but quite how catastrophically bad how quickly took us a bit by surprise.
As a result we are cautious about Rishi. Our loving the fact that Boris is no longer there has been watered down somewhat and our goodwill in less abundant supply.
Let's see what Rishi does - he was a leaver for example but maybe he realises the damage that that did (or perhaps he didn't really believe it in the first place). Either way, we have yet to see his true colours.
Can't speak for Scott, obvs.
I would also say that it is fantastic having someone of Indian origin as PM of the UK. We should all take a moment to ponder that.
He’s as Indian as Johnson is Turkish…
Can you employ some of that renowned Wykehamist intellect to let us know what exactly an Indian is supposed to be in your view.
AIUI his grandparents moved to East Africa… but his great grandparents were Punjabis. (I believe Boris’s great grandfather was a Turkish politician?)
But it was intended as a snarky comment about people getting excited about ethnicity which is complete irrelevant in my view.
He’s either good at the job or he’s not. In my view he’ll be competent but unlikely to do anything earth-shattering. Which may be a good thing 😯
Like him, loath him or are just lukewarm (or cold) about him, think it's obvious that Rishi Sunak handled himself in a positive, effective, strategic manner during the 40-plus days in the desert during the Truss maladministration.
Took his (initial) defeat and demotion to the backbenches without whining, let alone wailing and gnashing of teeth. RS managed to show up for his humble job as MP - unlike BJ - including dutifully trooping through the NO lobby - unlike LT - at the behest of the tactical genius of TC & RJM.
And in refreshing contrast to his ham-handed "leadership" campaign versus Truss, his most recent operation has been WAY less gaffe-prone and hugely more effective - obviously.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
The nation gave Truss 40 days. Things move quickly these days. I can't recall you asking for more time for Truss.
Truss behaviour and mini budget condemned her in days
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
You do realise Sunak worked quite happily for Johnson and presided over the creation of the economic problems we now face. You can blame Truss for many things, but she just lit the touch paper on the charges that Sunak had laid before she entered no10.
Sunak was the architect of the hugely successful furlough scheme and in case you have forgotten introduced a windfall tax on energy
You clearly do not like him but maybe opposition supporters protest too much, as they see a very different decent and honest PM taking the fight to labour
I just think you are glad that you got anyone but Boris. I don't blame you. But dig a little deeper and there are a few question marks over Sunak.
He will answer them in the fullness of time but yes I am delighted Johnson has gone and he did forsee everything that went wrong with Truss and has been vindicated
Tomorrow will see the start of a very different conservative party but it has an enormous task to regain trust
Enjoy today. It must be delightful to be released from the Truss chaos and Johnson purgatory. You deserve a good day. Open the good stuff.
I doubt tomorrow will see a very different conservative party, but we will see. I do welcome the intent to clear up the mess they have created.
I also welcome the challenge for Labour, competition is a good thing. I am sure Labour is more than a match for whatever the Tories can throw at them and the Labour government will be all the better for it.
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On a serious point, any ambitious young politician wanting to avoid pitfalls but make a name for themselves should aim for Business, dealing with energy and trade deals.
As indeed we saw with Truss.
Government Competency Rating (23 October):
Incompetent: 72% (+5)
Competent: 8% (+1)
Net: -64% (-4)
Changes +/- 16 October
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-gb-voting-intention-23-october-2022 https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1584583059273310208/photo/1
The serious betting question is this: Will 2022-2024 be a repeat of 1992 (ERM disaster)-1997, ending with Tory rout despite doing sort of OK as a government; or does a new leader + the fact that things happen more quickly than in the medieval 1990s mean the Tories have a chance of recovery?
A bit of wooden might help dispel that impression.
At this rate, Labour in single figures by the weekend....
So he's basically a speculator. Just what we don't need.......
Calling Moonrabbit..... You've got your first convert
The run resumes once Rishi Sunak takes the UK's helm.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-24/sunak-as-uk-pm-reinforces-goldman-hold-on-g-7-top-jobs-graphic
Nor will they.
The problems are too intractable and can't be sorted out by a government which is, usually probably with excellent intentions, causing most of them.
a) Very b) A little bit c) Not at all
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Well said it’s how we all feel. I resigned when Hunt became Chancellor and Liz was forced to do the U turns on her brilliant mini budget which has now been confirmed by many experts after they have u turned as soon as she was removed against our wishes.
AND also that Liz Truss will get no list at all for her 15 minutes of infamy as badly-acting Prime Minister?
We've commented on this in the past, but we really need to change things round - use "homework" for some of the video lessons (with way better quality teaching) and using school time / teachers to actually spend time making sure people understand what they were shown in those video lessons.
Starmer: 389 wins in constituencies
Sunak: 127 constituencies
'Not sure': 116 constituencies
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/10/24/mrp-starmer-wins-best-prime-minister-389-seats-sun https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1584584547156766720/photo/1
Perhaps we can knock it off the bot / troll accounts.
You're more of a shish man now?
https://youtu.be/Gc2g2OR_dq4
Delivered the day Russia invaded Ukraine - so got no attention.
Also he needs to buy a copy of Dicey, and read the chapter on how a Prime Minister is determined.
Starmer: wins in 31 constituencies
'Not sure': 19 constituencies
Sunak: 0 constituencies
'Best PM' results in the Blue Wall
Starmer: wins in 43 constituencies
Sunak: 10 constituencies
'Not sure': 0 constituencies
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/10/24/mrp-starmer-wins-best-prime-minister-389-seats-sun https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1584585934552825856/photo/1
The bit that isn't loves a bacon sandwich. The bit that is feels very guilty about it.
He isn't PM until tomorrow and any change in polling will take time
Let's see where we are next April/ May
So I am disheartened when I hear the flippant claim that ‘tax cuts always pay for themselves’. They do not. Cutting tax sustainably requires hard work, prioritisation, and the willingness to make difficult and often unpopular arguments elsewhere. And it is hard to cut taxes at a time when demands on the state are growing.….
“The notion that tax cuts, without any spending cuts or substitute source of revenue, will so stimulate the economy that the Budget balance will improve, enabling further tax cuts to be made…is a spurious kind of virtuous circle [and] emphatically not part of my thinking”. Not my words – those of Nigel Lawson.….
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/chancellor-rishi-sunaks-mais-lecture-2022
https://youtu.be/sPwQ0PmK9lw
Sunak/ Hunt combination has steadied the markets and been welcomed especially the bond market
Next Monday is Hunt's statement produced alongside the OBR which will be responsible and I expect substantial energy and bank windfall taxes
Johnson is gone and my relief is palpable, and I expect a very different government going forward
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Dutch TTF gas spot prices go negative. https://twitter.com/DamienERNST1/status/1584534948652126208
He also is not Boris Johnson.
You could be the best Chancellor in the world but if your PM says he wants to spaff money on x, y and z you can do it but hope to rein in excesses or nix certain elements or resign and let someone more pliable take over - ironically how Sunak got the job which worked well for Boris when it didn’t go as he hoped on the pliability front.
You clearly do not like him but maybe opposition supporters protest too much, as they see a very different decent and honest PM taking the fight to labour
If rust belt polling is going to stab me in the back again then so be it - I had vowed not to put money on these midterms for the same reason I didn't in 2018 (high voter engagement rendering polling turnout models useless) but that is a value bet in my estimation.
EDIT: I suppose I'm continually drawn back to the Kansas abortion referendum. The polling had Yes winning (checks notes) 52/48. In the end No won 41/59.
Politicians should be judged on what they do and not how long a speech is or whether they’re entertaining.
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1584584547156766720
Tomorrow will see the start of a very different conservative party but it has an enormous task to regain trust
But it was intended as a snarky comment about people getting excited about ethnicity which is complete irrelevant in my view.
He’s either good at the job or he’s not. In my view he’ll be competent but unlikely to do anything earth-shattering. Which may be a good thing 😯
Took his (initial) defeat and demotion to the backbenches without whining, let alone wailing and gnashing of teeth. RS managed to show up for his humble job as MP - unlike BJ - including dutifully trooping through the NO lobby - unlike LT - at the behest of the tactical genius of TC & RJM.
And in refreshing contrast to his ham-handed "leadership" campaign versus Truss, his most recent operation has been WAY less gaffe-prone and hugely more effective - obviously.
"'Best PM' results in the Red Wall
Starmer: wins in 31 constituencies
'Not sure': 19 constituencies
Sunak: 0 constituencies
'Best PM' results in the Blue Wall
Starmer: wins in 43 constituencies
Sunak: 10 constituencies
'Not sure': 0 constituencies"
But early days.
I doubt tomorrow will see a very different conservative party, but we will see. I do welcome the intent to clear up the mess they have created.
I also welcome the challenge for Labour, competition is a good thing. I am sure Labour is more than a match for whatever the Tories can throw at them and the Labour government will be all the better for it.