Robot Rishi could be a problem. That isn't who he is at all! The genuine warmth and ability to do human which I have seen first hand needs to be put in front of the cameras, not what he has just done.
Yes it was inadequate and a bit strange.
I expect there'll be a longer speech in Downing Street tomorrow which he had better start practicing for.
I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
I must have missed that controversy, what's dodgy about Teddy Roosevelt?
I thought he was roundly, across the aisle, accepted as one of America's greatest Presidents? What's controversial that leads to status toppling?
The statue had him on horseback, flanked by a grateful “negro” and “red indian”.
On the horse thing, he made a point of being photographed riding horses, as a "man of the people" thing, but covered up the fact that he played golf cos that was posh abd elitist.
Robot Rishi could be a problem. That isn't who he is at all! The genuine warmth and ability to do human which I have seen first hand needs to be put in front of the cameras, not what he has just done.
Yes it was inadequate and a bit strange.
Would it not be a bit rude to launch into a big speech before seeing Charles?
While I strongly disagree with Rishi Sunak’s politics and question his mandate, it’s important to recognise the significance of Britain’s first Prime Minister of South Asian heritage.
It’s not something our grandparents would ever have imagined when they made the UK home.
Very disappointing from Sunak so far. Nothing much seems to have changed. At least Truss got on with it.
He is not even PM yet, and you want to have a go much like the news presenters who expect him to provide the lecturn speech he will give tomorrow in front of no 10 once he has met Charles
If anything else I hope we move into an era of grown up politics and media presentations, but will not hold my breath
Oh, Big G. My comment was so obviously a joke. Of course Sunak hasn't done anything yet.
Great! Promising Tory MPs low taxes combined with more spending, and growth through productivity combined with incentives to less-productive regions. Sorry, but Johnson can't take the blame for the cake eatery and havery.
Robot Rishi could be a problem. That isn't who he is at all! The genuine warmth and ability to do human which I have seen first hand needs to be put in front of the cameras, not what he has just done.
Yes it was inadequate and a bit strange.
Would it not be a bit rude to launch into a big speech before seeing Charles?
The rapid turnovers have made it far easier to slip up about new PMs without the ceremonials
Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
Had a look at the website; didn't seem so there was anything posted recently. Or anything much! And what there was was up there with John Majors 'old maids cycling to evensong'.
In other news, personal news, I might not be around for a few days. Booked into hospital first thing tomorrow for a cervical decompression. Four vertebrae are involved and I won't be allowed out until I've got some mobility.
I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
It's great. One of the great museums of the world. But my favourite in that neck of the woods remains Ellis Island. The Americans have made a superb job of that.
Enormous goodwill for Rishi Sunak coming out of the room. Charles Walker says: “If last Wed was a low point in politics, this was a high point.” MPs said he made a point of thanking and being gracious to all his predecessors (a marked contrast to Truss)
Not so much with the Tory member vox poppers on 5live.
The membership needs to go and join ReformUK or Farage while the party moves to the centre
Twitter is absolutely chockablock with that kind of frustrated frothing. It remains to be seen how many are actually members, and how many follow through.
See you survived your Night at the Museum. Did Teddy Roosevelt make an appearance?
No, but we had a visitation from both Nefertiti and Akhenaten. (I thoroughly recommend it, BTW, if you have kids.)
Did you get a visitation from George Osborne as well?
Extremely disappointing news that Penny Mordaunt has quit and that Rishi Sunak will be next Tory leader and Prime Minister. It's not what Conservative members want; nor what the country wants. We will have a globalist PM and the #MigrantCrisis and #IdentityCrisis will get worse. https://twitter.com/ruralconserv/status/1584536248642781185
An extreme pressure group with 1,350 followers founded and led by a former columnist for the Express, the Star and the Daily Post.
I’m disappointed in you Scotty. Surely you can do better than that?
A perfect enemy to cultivate. The fact that it's insignificant doesn't really matter. He needs to rile a few noisy right wing zealots to prove he's not just a vanilla economist.
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
Thing is, we (normal ex-Cons members) used up a lot of our relief once Boris left and Liz took over. Yes we knew she would be bad but quite how catastrophically bad how quickly took us a bit by surprise.
As a result we are cautious about Rishi. Our loving the fact that Boris is no longer there has been watered down somewhat and our goodwill in less abundant supply.
Let's see what Rishi does - he was a leaver for example but maybe he realises the damage that that did (or perhaps he didn't really believe it in the first place). Either way, we have yet to see his true colours.
Can't speak for Scott, obvs.
I would also say that it is fantastic having someone of Indian origin as PM of the UK. We should all take a moment to ponder that.
He’s as Indian as Johnson is Turkish…
Mrs DA says that Sunak's grandfather hails from what is now Pakistan. Said in the tone that most people normally reserve for describing Birmingham City fans.
Enormous goodwill for Rishi Sunak coming out of the room. Charles Walker says: “If last Wed was a low point in politics, this was a high point.” MPs said he made a point of thanking and being gracious to all his predecessors (a marked contrast to Truss)
Not so much with the Tory member vox poppers on 5live.
The membership needs to go and join ReformUK or Farage while the party moves to the centre
Twitter is absolutely chockablock with that kind of frustrated frothing. It remains to be seen how many are actually members, and how many follow through.
See you survived your Night at the Museum. Did Teddy Roosevelt make an appearance?
No, but we had a visitation from both Nefertiti and Akhenaten. (I thoroughly recommend it, BTW, if you have kids.)
Did you get a visitation from George Osborne as well?
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Sunak’s acceptance statement was wooden, generic and thus ominously reminiscent of Theresa May and Liz Truss. He will need more gusto than this to get party and country through the next months.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Thing is, we (normal ex-Cons members) used up a lot of our relief once Boris left and Liz took over. Yes we knew she would be bad but quite how catastrophically bad how quickly took us a bit by surprise.
As a result we are cautious about Rishi. Our loving the fact that Boris is no longer there has been watered down somewhat and our goodwill in less abundant supply.
Let's see what Rishi does - he was a leaver for example but maybe he realises the damage that that did (or perhaps he didn't really believe it in the first place). Either way, we have yet to see his true colours.
Can't speak for Scott, obvs.
I would also say that it is fantastic having someone of Indian origin as PM of the UK. We should all take a moment to ponder that.
He’s as Indian as Johnson is Turkish…
Mrs DA says that Sunak's grandfather hails from what is now Pakistan. Said in the tone that most people normally reserve for describing Birmingham City fans.
Tell Mrs DA Pakistan and India were once the same country.
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
Thing is, we (normal ex-Cons members) used up a lot of our relief once Boris left and Liz took over. Yes we knew she would be bad but quite how catastrophically bad how quickly took us a bit by surprise.
As a result we are cautious about Rishi. Our loving the fact that Boris is no longer there has been watered down somewhat and our goodwill in less abundant supply.
Let's see what Rishi does - he was a leaver for example but maybe he realises the damage that that did (or perhaps he didn't really believe it in the first place). Either way, we have yet to see his true colours.
Can't speak for Scott, obvs.
I would also say that it is fantastic having someone of Indian origin as PM of the UK. We should all take a moment to ponder that.
He’s as Indian as Johnson is Turkish…
Mrs DA says that Sunak's grandfather hails from what is now Pakistan. Said in the tone that most people normally reserve for describing Birmingham City fans.
Tell Mrs DA Pakistan and India were once the same country.
Sunak’s acceptance statement was wooden, generic and thus ominously reminiscent of Theresa May and Liz Truss. He will need more gusto than this to get party and country through the next months.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
No one could do sincerity like Blair tbf.
Or absolute, irredeemable arsehole. He was a master of many guises
How will Sunak please all wings of the party with only so many high profile jobs available .
If Hunt needs to stay as COE and Wallace at defence .
The FO I think should go to Mordaunt .
Those who should be fired with no job . Cleverly , Mogg and Zahawi are at the top of the list .
Cleverly might get a job. He has less of a track record of being a fool.
He needs a headbanger, but Braverman really shouldn't get a job after quitting/sacking so soon. Patel failed too, so needs another option.
Wasn't Braverman sacked for doing something improper? Surely the change of leader doesn't lessen her impropriety so if she was sacked she should remain sacked
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Seriously? Did you not see the Peppa Pig episode?
I did. It was mad, but it wasn't boring.
Sunak set a similar tone to the voice on the tannoy that comes on after a concert telling you the party's over and it's time for everyone to go home. Maybe that is what he intended. :-)
Our tories seem to have made a late yet no less fervent conversion to the cause of identity politics today.
Look! He's Indian! These are our virtues and we must signal them!
Yea, it is easy to say that, but Labour does have a bit of diversity problem seeing as all their leaders throughout their history have been white middle-aged men.
Enormous goodwill for Rishi Sunak coming out of the room. Charles Walker says: “If last Wed was a low point in politics, this was a high point.” MPs said he made a point of thanking and being gracious to all his predecessors (a marked contrast to Truss)
Not so much with the Tory member vox poppers on 5live.
The membership needs to go and join ReformUK or Farage while the party moves to the centre
Twitter is absolutely chockablock with that kind of frustrated frothing. It remains to be seen how many are actually members, and how many follow through.
See you survived your Night at the Museum. Did Teddy Roosevelt make an appearance?
No, but we had a visitation from both Nefertiti and Akhenaten. (I thoroughly recommend it, BTW, if you have kids.)
Did you get a visitation from George Osborne as well?
Surely Andrea Leadsom, speaking as a mummy...
Probably not close enough to Halloween for that.
Witch is a ludicrous remark when all the shops are filled with pumpkins.
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
What about Benjamin Disraeli?
Likely to have had more Italian ancestors than anything else, and at the more unusual minimum at least half, if DNA studies of similar European jews are to be believed.
Our tories seem to have made a late yet no less fervent conversion to the cause of identity politics today.
Look! He's Indian! These are our virtues and we must signal them!
Yea, it is easy to say that, but Labour does have a bit of diversity problem seeing as all their leaders throughout their history have been white middle-aged men.
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
Welsh don't count?
We're a nationality not an ethnic group! Most of us are Caucasian although not by any means all.
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Our tories seem to have made a late yet no less fervent conversion to the cause of identity politics today.
Look! He's Indian! These are our virtues and we must signal them!
Yea, it is easy to say that, but Labour does have a bit of diversity problem seeing as all their leaders throughout their history have been white middle-aged men.
Middle aged is a generous description of Foot and Corbyn
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Seriously? Did you not see the Peppa Pig episode?
I did. It was mad, but it wasn't boring.
Sunak set a similar tone to the voice on the tannoy that comes on after a concert telling you the party's over and it's time for everyone to go home. Maybe that is what he intended. :-)
I am quite happy with sensible and boring for politicians. If I want to see a clown I'll go to a circus.
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
What about Benjamin Disraeli?
The Moors of Spain might also have something to say on this. As would the Sultans of the Ottoman Empire.
Our tories seem to have made a late yet no less fervent conversion to the cause of identity politics today.
Look! He's Indian! These are our virtues and we must signal them!
Yea, it is easy to say that, but Labour does have a bit of diversity problem seeing as all their leaders throughout their history have been white middle-aged men.
You have to deal with those who are available. These are arguments based on tiny numbers. If, when Labour get into power, they choose to appoint (say) Diane Abbott to high office simply for diversity reasons then it'll be a mistake.
(They have to appoint her as their greatest light!)
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Seriously? Did you not see the Peppa Pig episode?
I did. It was mad, but it wasn't boring.
Sunak set a similar tone to the voice on the tannoy that comes on after a concert telling you the party's over and it's time for everyone to go home. Maybe that is what he intended. :-)
I am quite happy with sensible and boring for politicians. If I want to see a clown I'll go to a circus.
I think you can kill two birds with one stone......
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Possibly Alan Johnson, although he wasn't there particularly long. The greatest of all, of course, was Roy Jenkins who changed this country so much for the better.
Interesting comments abound on European twitter that Varadkar was half-Irish. So Sunak is in fact indeed the first ethnic minority leader of any european country.
Welsh don't count?
We're a nationality not an ethnic group! Most of us are Caucasian although not by any means all.
IIRC LlG was a native Brythonic speaker for his mother tongue as opposed to the assorted lot acrtoss the border. Anyway if that isn't enough these days then fair enough.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Seriously? Did you not see the Peppa Pig episode?
I did. It was mad, but it wasn't boring.
Sunak set a similar tone to the voice on the tannoy that comes on after a concert telling you the party's over and it's time for everyone to go home. Maybe that is what he intended. :-)
I am quite happy with sensible and boring for politicians. If I want to see a clown I'll go to a circus.
Quite right on clowns, but national leaders can't afford to be completely boring if they want people to follow them.
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Possibly Alan Johnson, although he wasn't there particularly long. The greatest of all, of course, was Roy Jenkins who changed this country so much for the better.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Seriously? Did you not see the Peppa Pig episode?
I did. It was mad, but it wasn't boring.
Sunak set a similar tone to the voice on the tannoy that comes on after a concert telling you the party's over and it's time for everyone to go home. Maybe that is what he intended. :-)
I am quite happy with sensible and boring for politicians. If I want to see a clown I'll go to a circus.
Quite right on clowns, but national leaders can't afford to be completely boring if they want people to follow them.
Starmer will be giving it a jolly good go from 2024.
Our tories seem to have made a late yet no less fervent conversion to the cause of identity politics today.
Look! He's Indian! These are our virtues and we must signal them!
Yea, it is easy to say that, but Labour does have a bit of diversity problem seeing as all their leaders throughout their history have been white middle-aged men.
You have to deal with those who are available. These are arguments based on tiny numbers. If, when Labour get into power, they choose to appoint (say) Diane Abbott to high office simply for diversity reasons then it'll be a mistake.
(They have to appoint her as their greatest light!)
I don't disagree, and Starmer was their best person by a long way, but it must still get under their collective skins a bit that they can't seem to manage to put forward an intelligent electable person who is not white and male. That said I think Rachel Reeves could be a reasonable potential leader for them
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
More high level calls between Russia and Western officials:
@DefenceHQ A statement on the Chief of the Defence Staff’s call with the Russian Chief of the General Staff, General of the Army Valery Vasilyevich Gerasimov
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Possibly Alan Johnson, although he wasn't there particularly long. The greatest of all, of course, was Roy Jenkins who changed this country so much for the better.
Whitelaw as well?
Yes, he definitely gets a pass mark. Not many though. It is an incredibly difficult department to run and prone to producing far more than the average level of cockups.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Seriously? Did you not see the Peppa Pig episode?
Or even worse, Kermit the Frog.
My favourite of all was the attempt to game Google by doing that interview where he said he makes model buses.
It is a delight that page 1 of Google results today nails him for the lie about introducing bus passes, implicates him in the £250m Brexit bus slogan, *and* ridicules him for his "bizarre" model bus building claim, if you plumb in 'Boris Johnson bus'.
I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
I must have missed that controversy, what's dodgy about Teddy Roosevelt?
I thought he was roundly, across the aisle, accepted as one of America's greatest Presidents? What's controversial that leads to status toppling?
The statue had him on horseback, flanked by a grateful “negro” and “red indian”.
Theodore Roosevelt was VERY big on White Man's Burden and pro-imperialism, whether by US or UK.
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Possibly Alan Johnson, although he wasn't there particularly long. The greatest of all, of course, was Roy Jenkins who changed this country so much for the better.
Whitelaw as well?
Yes, he definitely gets a pass mark. Not many though. It is an incredibly difficult department to run and prone to producing far more than the average level of cockups.
Clarke was Home Secretary as well of course for a time - just over a year.
Edit - and of course he initiated many changes at Justice in 2010 with the intent of liberalising the system.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Seriously? Did you not see the Peppa Pig episode?
I did. It was mad, but it wasn't boring.
Sunak set a similar tone to the voice on the tannoy that comes on after a concert telling you the party's over and it's time for everyone to go home. Maybe that is what he intended. :-)
I am quite happy with sensible and boring for politicians. If I want to see a clown I'll go to a circus.
Quite right on clowns, but national leaders can't afford to be completely boring if they want people to follow them.
Starmer will be giving it a jolly good go from 2024.
Clement Attlee was pretty dull by all accounts. I believe Churchill described him as a humble man with much to be humble about
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
Liz Truss has told colleagues she would like to hold one last cabinet on Tuesday morning. Rishi Sunak's supporters say he favours an orderly transfer of power. No 10 "can't be definitive" about who will do PMQs on Weds
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Possibly Alan Johnson, although he wasn't there particularly long. The greatest of all, of course, was Roy Jenkins who changed this country so much for the better.
The Binyam Mohammed affair/MI5 stuff says no for me
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Also just watched. I guess he wanted carefully chosen words, but for something that short it would have been better to either do it off the cuff/from the heart or at least read the autocue in a way that made it look like it was.
Still, if the worst that we can say is that he's a bit wooden, he's not doing too badly. No spooking of the markets or breaking of his own laws just yet
'Wooden' when you're up against Starmer is not that big a problem anyway, to be fair.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Seriously? Did you not see the Peppa Pig episode?
I did. It was mad, but it wasn't boring.
Sunak set a similar tone to the voice on the tannoy that comes on after a concert telling you the party's over and it's time for everyone to go home. Maybe that is what he intended. :-)
I am quite happy with sensible and boring for politicians. If I want to see a clown I'll go to a circus.
Quite right on clowns, but national leaders can't afford to be completely boring if they want people to follow them.
Starmer will be giving it a jolly good go from 2024.
Clement Attlee was pretty dull by all accounts. I believe Churchill described him as a humble man with much to be humble about
Churchill was always rather indignant about that, because he didn't. In fact, he rated Attlee highly for all he could make silly remarks about Gestapos.
I think it was Duff Cooper who said however 'an empty taxi drew up and Clement Attlee got out.'
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
Also just watched. I guess he wanted carefully chosen words, but for something that short it would have been better to either do it off the cuff/from the heart or at least read the autocue in a way that made it look like it was.
Still, if the worst that we can say is that he's a bit wooden, he's not doing too badly. No spooking of the markets or breaking of his own laws just yet
'Wooden' when you're up against Starmer is not that big a problem anyway, to be fair.
Also unlike Truss, Sunak has done loads of interviews over the past few years and he usually comes off somewhere between fine and well. However, obviously its much easier when you are giving sweeties out rather than taking them away. Rishi problems have normally come when he has tried to go out into the real world and do a photo-op, which is quite different to doing the Westminster interviews and as PM something you do a lot less (other than obvious Boris who just did hi-viz vest and no actual work).
Thing is, we (normal ex-Cons members) used up a lot of our relief once Boris left and Liz took over. Yes we knew she would be bad but quite how catastrophically bad how quickly took us a bit by surprise.
As a result we are cautious about Rishi. Our loving the fact that Boris is no longer there has been watered down somewhat and our goodwill in less abundant supply.
Let's see what Rishi does - he was a leaver for example but maybe he realises the damage that that did (or perhaps he didn't really believe it in the first place). Either way, we have yet to see his true colours.
Can't speak for Scott, obvs.
I would also say that it is fantastic having someone of Indian origin as PM of the UK. We should all take a moment to ponder that.
He’s as Indian as Johnson is Turkish…
Can you employ some of that renowned Wykehamist intellect to let us know what exactly an Indian is supposed to be in your view.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
Imagine. Scientists spend years carefully replicating the texture and taste of real, prime meat and the product bombs because it tastes nothing like a 'real' sausage.
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
Short and sweet . I really don’t care he gave a one minute statement , we don’t need half an hour of vacuous guff , he’s not Bozo.
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
We so need a liberally minded, independent thinker at the Home Office which has not quite recovered from Theresa May's baleful influence. I would love to see what someone like Gove could do with it.
I can't think of any liberally minded, independent thinkers at the Home Office any time I've been following politics.
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Possibly Alan Johnson, although he wasn't there particularly long. The greatest of all, of course, was Roy Jenkins who changed this country so much for the better.
Whitelaw as well?
Yes, he definitely gets a pass mark. Not many though. It is an incredibly difficult department to run and prone to producing far more than the average level of cockups.
Clarke was Home Secretary as well of course for a time - just over a year.
Edit - and of course he initiated many changes at Justice in 2010 with the intent of liberalising the system.
Clarke was worse than Blunkett. IDcards, restrictive on trial by jury stuff etc Jacqui Smith with 42 day detention... Labour had some right nutters
I live opposite the Natural History Museum (although I’m moving shortly). It’s the one they used for the Night of the Museum movies.
They’ve toppled the admittedly dodgy Teddy Roosevelt statue outside as it is no longer considered appropriate, so Teddy ain’t turning up there anymore either.
Superb collection of stuffed animals in dioramas, though. Totally worth a visit or two.
Daughter loves the model of the giant squid in the out-of-the-way anteroom (which is also conveniently located for the cafe that is usually empty because no-one knows it is there.)
Haven’t discovered that yet!
Are we discussing the same museum? I was thinking the American Museum of Natural History in NY but the squid reminds me of the NHM in South Ken.
I googled it, apparently the AMNH does indeed have a giant squid, fished up in NZ waters of all places…
So it does, and also a life reconstruction model (squids being rather squishy and needing lots of pickling liquid).
Sometimes, talking at cross purposes unearths interesting details!
Just watched it, it was a little strange reading sincerity straight off the autocue. He'll need to work on that. Boris is a hard act to follow on the comms side of the job.
The more the contrast between Rishi and de Pfeffel, the better for the former. And NOT just for Sunak.
Thanks for that. If I ever think that having a Labour government might not be that bad, I just have to watch Angela Rayner for about 3 or 4 seconds and I am cured of that misunderstanding
Not impressed. If you’re tempted, I wouldn’t bother.
There is much better/tastier/healthier vegetarian/vegan food out there.
Not even worth the £1.39 I paid for it. Normal price nearer £4.
Processed shite.
Most 'plant based' stuff is heavily processed unhealthy shit. Its a massive con
Thing I don't understand is why a vegetarian/vegan would want to eat fake meat when there's so much proper vegetarian/vegan food available.
They might like the taste of meat but have moral issues with it.
Right, but fake meat doesn't taste like meat.
How would you know if you're a vegetarian ?
The Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers are surprisingly edible, and quite cheap. I occasionally join the vegetarians in my family in eating them. Ditto the sausages, which I actually prefer when ordering cooked breakfasts, as most greasy spoon sausages are crap.
My understanding is that Beyond sausages contain almost exactly the same amount of meat as Tesco values ones.
Imagine. Scientists spend years carefully replicating the texture and taste of real, prime meat and the product bombs because it tastes nothing like a 'real' sausage.
And yet quite unintelligent animals produce real, prime meat with no effort at all.
Comments
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 56% (-1)
CON: 22% (=)
LDM: 10% (+3)
GRN: 4% (=)
SNP: 4% (=)
RFM: 3% (=)
Via @Omnisis, 21-22 Oct.
Changes w/ 20 Oct.
https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1584565663175098368
But if we should be evicted
From our homes
We'll just move somewhere else
And still carry on
Now we may not know
Where our next meal is coming from
But with you by my side
I'll face what is to come
Still I’ll give him a chance unless he puts the stain on humanity as HS.
https://twitter.com/BloombergUK/status/1584565692459732994/video/1
Look! He's Indian! These are our virtues and we must signal them!
Sunak set a similar tone to the voice on the tannoy that comes on after a concert telling you the party's over and it's time for everyone to go home. Maybe that is what he intended. :-)
Straw and Blunkett etc were major authoritarians in the job too.
Who was the last liberally minded Home Secretary do you think?
Striking to think just how big a cock he was when Labour were in government.
And I'm not referring to *that* photo!
(They have to appoint her as their greatest light!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hRwnXmdRCo
Well, marine archaeologists have just found her sister ship: Äpplet (’The Apple’). What are the chances?
@DefenceHQ
A statement on the Chief of the Defence Staff’s call with the Russian Chief of the General Staff, General of the Army Valery Vasilyevich Gerasimov
https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1584560170323017728
Labour deputy leader Angela Rayner reacts to Rishi Sunak being selected as the next Tory party leader and PM.
Latest here: http://trib.al/UvZomA7
📺 Sky 501, Virgin 602, Freeview 233 and YouTube https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1584571076960403456/video/1
It is a delight that page 1 of Google results today nails him for the lie about introducing bus passes, implicates him in the £250m Brexit bus slogan, *and* ridicules him for his "bizarre" model bus building claim, if you plumb in 'Boris Johnson bus'.
Master communicator.
Brownsville Affair also relevant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownsville_affair#:~:text=The Brownsville affair, or the,stationed at nearby Fort Brown.
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imperial_Cruise
Personally oppose iconoclasm. But zero surprise Teddy was target when toppling statues became all the rage.
Edit - and of course he initiated many changes at Justice in 2010 with the intent of liberalising the system.
Liz Truss has told colleagues she would like to hold one last cabinet on Tuesday morning. Rishi Sunak's supporters say he favours an orderly transfer of power. No 10 "can't be definitive" about who will do PMQs on Weds
https://twitter.com/GeorgeWParker/status/1584567597231591424
Still, if the worst that we can say is that he's a bit wooden, he's not doing too badly. No spooking of the markets or breaking of his own laws just yet
'Wooden' when you're up against Starmer is not that big a problem anyway, to be fair.
The cheapest Tesco pork sausages are 53% pork.
https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1584555852094005248
I think it was Duff Cooper who said however 'an empty taxi drew up and Clement Attlee got out.'
Jacqui Smith with 42 day detention...
Labour had some right nutters