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Truss dominates Sunak in the polling except the key one? – politicalbetting.com

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  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,162
    Leon said:

    LIZ TRUSS FOR QUEEN!!!

    I disagree, if they are getting rid of Adam Lambert as Freddie Mercury’s replacement they should go for Sam Ryder of Eurovision fame
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited July 2022
    GIN1138 said:

    LOL! Was an elderly lady from what I can remember. He was cowering behind her.
    Poor old Eamonn. If he got any bigger he'd have to breathe in to hide behind a row of terraces.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,690
    So Nadine Dorries is basically French, another reason not to abolish the licence fee.

    France’s National Assembly has formally voted to end the €138 ($142) annual TV licence fee (la contribution pour l’audiovisuel public) in favour of a VAT increase.

    The bill was passed over the weekend with 170 French MPs in favour and 57 opposed and follows president Emmanuel Macron’s decision to make the end of the licence fee a key pledge in his re-election campaign to “give back purchasing power”.

    Once in effect, public broadcasting in the country would be financed by “a fraction” of VAT for a total of around €3.7bn. The existing licence fee will bring in €3.2bn in 2022.


    https://tbivision.com/2022/07/25/france-votes-to-scrap-licence-fee/
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,860
    Leon said:

    LIZ TRUSS FOR QUEEN!!!

    The PM of hearts.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,542
    Leon said:

    What arrant nonsense

    How often does a TV presenter faint and crash to the floor, live, during a crucial TV leaders debate?

    I'll tell you how often: never

    And of course there was and is always the chance of foul play, of the first incident leading to much more, perhaps poisoning, who knows. So Truss would have been feeling fear as well as shock; likwise Sunak

    Jeez I know politicians can be wankers but cut them some slack when they behave decently
    TV presenters keel over like nine pins. Just Google it. I assume due to hot lights. So never is actually quite often in fact. They also deal with studio invasions, exploding light bulbs, etc. You are making too much of this as usual.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,364

    So Nadine Dorries is basically French, another reason not to abolish the licence fee.

    France’s National Assembly has formally voted to end the €138 ($142) annual TV licence fee (la contribution pour l’audiovisuel public) in favour of a VAT increase.

    The bill was passed over the weekend with 170 French MPs in favour and 57 opposed and follows president Emmanuel Macron’s decision to make the end of the licence fee a key pledge in his re-election campaign to “give back purchasing power”.

    Once in effect, public broadcasting in the country would be financed by “a fraction” of VAT for a total of around €3.7bn. The existing licence fee will bring in €3.2bn in 2022.


    https://tbivision.com/2022/07/25/france-votes-to-scrap-licence-fee/

    "Give back purchasing power" by clawing it back (and more) through VAT? Not sure how that works.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,400
    kjh said:

    TV presenters keel over like nine pins. Just Google it. I assume due to hot lights. So never is actually quite often in fact. They also deal with studio invasions, exploding light bulbs, etc. You are making too much of this as usual.
    How often, given the fact such events are *always* caught on camera, and the thousands of hours of video captured every day around the world? It'll be very unusual.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,690
    RobD said:

    "Give back purchasing power" by clawing it back (and more) through VAT? Not sure how that works.
    IIRC the extra purchasing power comes from saving money from collecting the licence fee because now you just get it as a cash lump sum from the government.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,162
    boulay said:

    I disagree, if they are getting rid of Adam Lambert as Freddie Mercury’s replacement they should go for Sam Ryder of Eurovision fame
    Whilst thinking about Eurovision they should host it in Salisbury and have the spire as the symbol to troll Russia.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,364

    IIRC the extra purchasing power comes from saving money from collecting the licence fee because now you just get it as a cash lump sum from the government.
    Ah, purchasing power for the broadcaster? Note how the total amount received actually goes up by almost 20%!
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,538
    Sweden look better than England. It’s not coming home.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,867

    I just tuned in to TalkTV, Rishi's team have announced he will go to assist Kate once inflation is under control and not before. Now is not the time to be assisting fainted ladies. Its not fiscally prudent.

    :wink:
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,542
    Leon said:

    Crikey. That's quite a story
    I was first aid trained, but forgot everything. Surprisingly doctors aren't first aid trained (I don't know if they are these days) but it all seemed natural to her. She hadn't done any A&E stuff for sometime. She was a pathologist at the time. All I was useful for was checking all the vehicles and then updating the police when they arrived. The only thing that shook me was seeing a car plough into the empty car I had just checked and thought gosh that was close.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575

    The PM of hearts.
    Well, certainly not of diamonds.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,922

    I just tuned in to TalkTV, Rishi's team have announced he will go to assist Kate once inflation is under control and not before. Now is not the time to be assisting fainted ladies. Its not fiscally prudent.

    If Sunak's team actually used the word "ladies" that will be very big news.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620

    That's the same whinging individual who has been quoted a thousand times before.

    If everyone is struggling, why is it always the same moaning FBPE bugger with an EU flag on his handle that is the goto to be quoted instead of thousands of different individuals all complaining?
    That's a bit like saying you are always the one to leap to the defence of Brexit so can be ignored. You see?
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    Chris said:

    God knows after the tragic business with her daughter I'm sure we all wish her well.
    Different Kate McCann I think....
  • Carnyx said:

    That's a bit like saying you are always the one to leap to the defence of Brexit so can be ignored. You see?
    Its exactly like that, yes.

    My stating my opinion isn't new or original. Fitting for a discussion website, but for so-called "news" sources? That this FBPE guy doesn't like Brexit is about as much news as hearing that John Major doesn't like Boris for the 17654th time.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,860
    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1551990768092454912

    "I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit."
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,356

    It is safe
    But what’s the word?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,197
    Eabhal said:
    Reading an autocue?
  • Eabhal said:
    Normally I think all these "Biden is ..." things are silly, but yeah that's an undoctored clip they've put out not being snipped by GOP trolls and those eyes are creepy.

    Unmoving and don't look right at all.

    I hope he's OK. I think America is going to need President Kamala sooner than later.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620

    Its exactly like that, yes.

    My stating my opinion isn't new or original. Fitting for a discussion website, but for so-called "news" sources? That this FBPE guy doesn't like Brexit is about as much news as hearing that John Major doesn't like Boris for the 17654th time.
    But what is news is that he has fulfilled the instructions of your favourite Brexiter fraction. Which were to **** off to Europe and take his employment and tax with him.
  • DavidL said:
    Doesn't look like it, normally with an autocue you see the eyes shifting slightly left to right as they read. His are just fixed, unmoving. It seems a bit creepy.

    Maybe its normal, but it doesn't look it.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,166
    DavidL said:
    He usually screws them up when he's struggling with the autocue?

    I've gone through a few of his recent vids and something is weird about this one.
  • Carnyx said:

    But what is news is that he has fulfilled the instructions of your favourite Brexiter fraction. Which were to **** off to Europe and take his employment and tax with him.
    Cool, so will this be the last time we hear from him? Or will he be back in a few weeks time getting shared by the usual FBPE circlejerk updating us on how much of a challenge Brexit is for his business?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,859
    Carnyx said:

    But what is news is that he has fulfilled the instructions of your favourite Brexiter fraction. Which were to **** off to Europe and take his employment and tax with him.
    The guy in question runs a sizeable wine business. The idea that he is doing all of this for fun to make political points is laughable.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Eabhal said:

    He usually screws them up when he's struggling with the autocue?

    I've gone through a few of his recent vids and something is weird about this one.
    They couldnt even find same sized ones in the Mr Biden Head box
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,808

    After GE19 most of the money has been spent on London.

    Vote Labour, the only party to have actually levelled up this country in the last thirty years.
    Pfft labour always leaves me poorer and I am not rolling in it but live pay check to pay check.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    PICTURE QUIZ

    Where is this? No googling

  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Its exactly like that, yes.

    My stating my opinion isn't new or original. Fitting for a discussion website, but for so-called "news" sources? That this FBPE guy doesn't like Brexit is about as much news as hearing that John Major doesn't like Boris for the 17654th time.
    He has done something about it, he has emigrated, whereas you have instructed me to broaden my travel horizons when so far this year I have been to Cape Verde, Sicily and Scilly and you have yet to leave Warrington.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,197
    England probably a little fortunate to be level. But they have already had 2 poor first halves in this tournament.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,542

    How often, given the fact such events are *always* caught on camera, and the thousands of hours of video captured every day around the world? It'll be very unusual.
    I believe it is quite common because of the lights. Another one is operating theatres. My wife had to give up any ideas of surgery because of this. On her feet for extended periods in a warm room she was prone to keeling over.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Leon said:

    PICTURE QUIZ

    Where is this? No googling

    N Australia
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,134
    MrEd said:

    Different Kate McCann I think....
    Different humour I think
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,932
    Eabhal said:
    White House stare-out competition stopping him blinking?
  • DavidL said:

    England probably a little fortunate to be level. But they have already had 2 poor first halves in this tournament.

    Its OK though as Stokes can chase down any target in the second half of the innings.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    Leon said:

    PICTURE QUIZ

    Where is this? No googling

    Looks freshwater (no sea anemones etc), but it is hard to tell if it is an Old World croc or a New World alligator. But it is obvs a zoo so the reptile could be far from home. Gut feeling is something touristy in Thailand.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,538
    DavidL said:

    England probably a little fortunate to be level. But they have already had 2 poor first halves in this tournament.

    Name on the trophy.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,197
    Meade!!
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,922
    Leon said:

    PICTURE QUIZ

    Where is this? No googling

    Channel 5 studio, looking for a different angle for the 25th leadership debate?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,835
    Pagan2 said:

    Pfft labour always leaves me poorer and I am not rolling in it but live pay check to pay check.
    The money is always spent in London. Was the case when Labour were in power, was the case when the Tories were in power. It's not where the politicians are from, it's where the civil servants are from.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620

    Cool, so will this be the last time we hear from him? Or will he be back in a few weeks time getting shared by the usual FBPE circlejerk updating us on how much of a challenge Brexit is for his business?
    Why not, given that Brexit is a complete pain in the arse? Think for once, can't you? Normal wine importers deal with wine from n x 10e2 different suppliers. Many will say "foutez-vous en" rather than deal with the new paperwork. So he now has to effectily set up a new company just to deal with the paperwork and crap you so lovingly regard.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,356
    Great to see the fine tradition of BBC English football commentary kept up for the Lionesses.

    ‘Can’t see how that was a free kick’

    ‘Oh, ok, it’s pretty clear in the replay’

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,690
    DavidL said:

    England probably a little fortunate to be level. But they have already had 2 poor first halves in this tournament.

    We thank you for your contribution.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    People diss the wimmins football game, but this is every bit as ballsachingly boring as the blokes version.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,197
    Chris said:

    Channel 5 studio, looking for a different angle for the 25th leadership debate?
    Yep. So you can answer questions about Russia but who can handle a crocodile? That’s what the voters want to know.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,485
    Pagan2 said:

    Pfft labour always leaves me poorer and I am not rolling in it but live pay check to pay check.
    Yes, you do know Labour haven't been in Government since 2010....

    There will always be a core of people who believe ANY Conservative Government will be better than ANY Labour Government and another core who believe the exact opposite.

    Both groups have their representatives on PB - I suspect more of the former than the latter.

  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    IshmaelZ said:

    N Australia
    That was too easy!

    If you haven’t been there hats off for a brilliant guesstimate

    It’s crocosaurus in Darwin Oz. They put me in that tank with the world’s largest ‘saltie’ - then they chucked raw meat in to make him lively

    Quite the experience
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,134
    IshmaelZ said:

    People diss the wimmins football game, but this is every bit as ballsachingly boring as the blokes version.

    Some dirty play out there as well
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Cool, so will this be the last time we hear from him? Or will he be back in a few weeks time getting shared by the usual FBPE circlejerk updating us on how much of a challenge Brexit is for his business?
    you are on average one of the most articulate and responsive posters on the site, but not when I ask the question: do you sell goods or services to anyone outside the UK?

    I wonder why that is.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,690
    The Swedes look cooked.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Leon said:

    That was too easy!

    If you haven’t been there hats off for a brilliant guesstimate

    It’s crocosaurus in Darwin Oz. They put me in that tank with the world’s largest ‘saltie’ - then they chucked raw meat in to make him lively

    Quite the experience
    It was a guess. Thinking was, there's crocs all over, but you really, really want first world croc cages for your daughters to view them from. Do Not Try This In Africa.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,134
    Leon said:

    That was too easy!

    If you haven’t been there hats off for a brilliant guesstimate

    It’s crocosaurus in Darwin Oz. They put me in that tank with the world’s largest ‘saltie’ - then they chucked raw meat in to make him lively

    Quite the experience
    Reckon you were safe…vegetarian sharks are extremely rare
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,268
    There are crocodiles in the Americas. Southern Florida is the northern limit of their range. (There are, of course, many more alligators than crocodiles in Florida.)
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,197

    The Swedes look cooked.

    Well that’s a Turnip for the books.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,339
    Pagan2 said:

    Pfft labour always leaves me poorer and I am not rolling in it but live pay check to pay check.
    Thanks, I'll bear that in mind.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331

    Great to see the fine tradition of BBC English football commentary kept up for the Lionesses.

    ‘Can’t see how that was a free kick’

    ‘Oh, ok, it’s pretty clear in the replay’

    Good to hear that Kevin Keegan’s back in work.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    IshmaelZ said:

    It was a guess. Thinking was, there's crocs all over, but you really, really want first world croc cages for your daughters to view them from. Do Not Try This In Africa.
    Aussie salt water crocs are the biggest and most aggressive on earth. Quite terrifying
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,398
    Just checked: faintgate is top story on BBC News, The Times, The Telegraph, The Mail, The Sun and even the Independent and the Guardian.

    That's amazing coverage for Truss.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    Ok this is a really good one. It is absurdly hard but it’s entertaining

    Whose house is this and where is it?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,692
    So hang on - there was ANOTHER debate tonight?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    If anyone can guess that without googling and without further clues I will buy them an oyster
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,712
    Leon said:

    Ok this is a really good one. It is absurdly hard but it’s entertaining

    Whose house is this and where is it?

    Goldeneye in bad weather?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    carnforth said:

    Goldeneye in bad weather?

    No but right hemisphere
  • LennonLennon Posts: 1,797
    Leon said:

    Ok this is a really good one. It is absurdly hard but it’s entertaining

    Whose house is this and where is it?

    Totally random guess - but is it where Napolean was sent on St Helena? Atlantic fog and on a hill?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    Most of us will have heard of the inhabitant of that house (maybe all?) and I imagine a similar proportion will have heard of its quite famous location
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    Lennon said:

    Totally random guess - but is it where Napolean was sent on St Helena? Atlantic fog and on a hill?

    No
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62311410

    'Flashy' NYC bishop robbed of $1m in jewellery during live sermon

    Let's all laugh at Christians
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,692
    Leon said:

    If anyone can guess that without googling and without further clues I will buy them an oyster

    Oyster? I haven't used an Oyster since I first got a contactless bank card in 2015.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Leon said:

    If anyone can guess that without googling and without further clues I will buy them an oyster

    Che Guevaras pad
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,814
    Leon said:


    No
    Pol Pot’s retirement home?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852

    Che Guevaras pad
    Oooh. Much nearer. Wrong, but a great guess
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,690
    Another entry in the file that the police are wankers and the Met needs disbanding.

    Five children are being strip searched by Met Police officers every week without even being arrested first.

    Data obtained by LBC shows 799 children aged between 10 and 17 were strip-searched whilst not in custody, from 2019 to 2021.

    The vast majority were for suspected drugs offences, and in just under half of the cases there was no outcome or arrest.

    The figures also expose huge racial disparities; more than half of the children strip-searched were black (436), three-quarters of them were from ethnically diverse backgrounds (607), while only one in five (179) were white.

    Scotland Yard sparked national outrage after news emerged earlier this year of a 15-year-old black school girl from Hackney, known as Child Q, being strip-searched, without having been first arrested for any crime.

    The searches of 10 other children have also been referred to the police watchdog to investigate.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-strip-search-five-children-every-week/
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,808
    Cookie said:

    The money is always spent in London. Was the case when Labour were in power, was the case when the Tories were in power. It's not where the politicians are from, it's where the civil servants are from.
    Shrugs been through two labour governments they always fucked me. Been through a few conservative ones sometimes got better off sometime fucked as well. CHB can do one with his levelling up spiel the only thing in anyones experience if you arent public sector or a benefits junkie is to level everyone down. They are the anti midas of political parties turning gold into shit
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,814
    Leon said:

    Oooh. Much nearer. Wrong, but a great guess
    Escobar
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,712
    edited July 2022
    Leon said:

    Oooh. Much nearer. Wrong, but a great guess
    Hemingway, then?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    moonshine said:

    Pol Pot’s retirement home?
    No, tho I have been there (to Pol Pot's last house)
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Oyster? I haven't used an Oyster since I first got a contactless bank card in 2015.
    I bought one on a whim 4 years ago, always wanted one because James Bond. It has not, to put it mildly, depreciated.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,786
    Leon said:

    PICTURE QUIZ

    Where is this? No googling

    Brighton Sea Life Centre?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    moonshine said:

    Escobar
    No
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    carnforth said:

    Hemingway, then?
    No

    OK hold on I will give everyone a clue
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,808
    stodge said:

    Yes, you do know Labour haven't been in Government since 2010....

    There will always be a core of people who believe ANY Conservative Government will be better than ANY Labour Government and another core who believe the exact opposite.

    Both groups have their representatives on PB - I suspect more of the former than the latter.

    The blair years left me on 60% down compared to inflation at the time by the time of 2007 so cutting out the gfc. Tories governements at least sometimes but not always at least let me keep up more with inflation.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Leon said:

    Oooh. Much nearer. Wrong, but a great guess
    Hmmmm, its got a Guyana feel
    Jim Jones
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852

    Hmmmm, its got a Guyana feel
    Jim Jones
    No....
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,814
    Leon said:

    No....
    Waco
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    Here’s a chunky clue

    The house is about 500m from THIS



  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,560

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1551990768092454912

    "I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit."

    Must be an old clip, surely, since they're all wearing masks?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    moonshine said:

    Waco
    David Koresh if so?
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,644
    Leon said:

    Oooh. Much nearer. Wrong, but a great guess
    For some reason I'm thinking of Aleister Crowley and Sicily. How far out?
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,808
    Pagan2 said:

    The blair years left me on 60% down compared to inflation at the time by the time of 2007 so cutting out the gfc. Tories governements at least sometimes but not always at least let me keep up more with inflation.
    In my view the labour party want minimum wage to catch up with most of the country so we are all beholden to government largess....tories arent much better mind
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852

    For some reason I'm thinking of Aleister Crowley and Sicily. How far out?
    Trillion miles
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    For some reason I'm thinking of Aleister Crowley and Sicily. How far out?
    No. Bin there and it ain't that.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,166
    Leon said:

    Trillion miles
    Bolivia
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,814
    Eabhal said:

    Bolivia
    Yeah looks like the coroico death road doesn’t it
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Noriega
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,786
    Pagan2 said:

    In my view the labour party want minimum wage to catch up with most of the country so we are all beholden to government largess....tories arent much better mind
    Tell you what, why don't you just vote Tory and have done with it? I don't think Labour were expecting your vote, somehow.
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