"Based on those YouGov findings Rishi Sunak’s leadership ambitions are as doomed as stepmother’s chances in succeeding in a Disney film yet there is one morsel of comfort for him."
Enchanted says hello. Disney Princess becomes a loving stepmother.
Off topic but may be of interests to geologists on here.
I have acquired some 600 square metres of land which I am very very slowly turning into a garden and potager etc. it is currently wild and this week NW Electricity have started the process of removing an electricity pole on the land and laying the connection in an underground cable. It is hard work because the rock under the land (and we are on a hill) is dolerite, which is a sort of volcanic-like - and incredibly hard - rock, as you can see below.
Raised beds in the potager anyway. Even digging up a small bed in the front garden brought up quantities of the stuff. Imagine doing 600 sq mtrs!!
I hope you're paying to have the cable buried, given the costs of doing it!
Late to the game, but given the leadership contest is done and dusted already and we're just going to see 5 weeks of Sunak looking desperate and its not worth looking at, that Cruddas story would be hilarious were it not so stupid and worrying.
My favourite line from the story was this:
Lord Cruddas said he felt ashamed the PM could be ousted in Britain, adding Britons live in a country he can barely recognise any longer
Since it reveals quite clearly he has not the slightest idea how the country works, and so he is saying he barely recognises the reality from the fantasy Britain he has invented in his head where PMs could not be ousted by their party. I mean, what are they even legally challenging - he stated he would be resigning, thus a vacancy emerged, end of.
It's just so histrionic it is barely believable - why would anyone worship any politician so much, nevermind Boris Johnson?
'There he will set up a French company to export back to his own company in Wales.
He said the only way he could get around the “incredibly complicated” paperwork for importing alcohol was to establish a French company to export into the UK, and do the administration in the EU himself.
“I am doing what the government was suggesting, which is to have a company here and in Europe to mitigate the impact of Brexit,” he said. “What I’m doing will enable me to import and export into and out of the EU within the company itself, so that we mitigate all of the cost of importing into the UK.”'
And that's a lot of employment, profit and tax lost to the UK. As HMG should have knonw when they said "**** business, go away and set up elsewhere".
That's the same whinging individual who has been quoted a thousand times before.
If everyone is struggling, why is it always the same moaning FBPE bugger with an EU flag on his handle that is the goto to be quoted instead of thousands of different individuals all complaining?
Here's a thought. If we assume that Truss is the next Tory prime minister, let's look at the last four. Cameron, May , Johnson and Truss. Now imagine they had been elected as new MPs in 1979 how would they have fared in their careers? The only one I can envisage making it to the cabinet is Cameron and even there I'm not entirely convinced. It is hard to imagine the other 3 getting beyond junior ministerial roles.
At some point we are going to have to think seriously about the calibre of our leaders. I'm not actually that critical of MPs in general but there are 650 of them and you would expect the cream to be rising to the top. That doesn't seem to be happening.
Other than WTF, I was just typing out that Rishi is way over-using the 'Like all Sun Readers...' line. Couple of times felt genuine, the 10th time feels like 'pump the line!'.
"Based on those YouGov findings Rishi Sunak’s leadership ambitions are as doomed as stepmother’s chances in succeeding in a Disney film yet there is one morsel of comfort for him."
Enchanted says hello. Disney Princess becomes a loving stepmother.
"Based on those YouGov findings Rishi Sunak’s leadership ambitions are as doomed as stepmother’s chances in succeeding in a Disney film yet there is one morsel of comfort for him."
Enchanted says hello. Disney Princess becomes a loving stepmother.
Here's a thought. If we assume that Truss is the next Tory prime minister, let's look at the last four. Cameron, May , Johnson and Truss. Now imagine they had been elected as new MPs in 1979 how would they have fared in their careers? The only one I can envisage making it to the cabinet is Cameron and even there I'm not entirely convinced. It is hard to imagine the other 3 getting beyond junior ministerial roles.
At some point we are going to have to think seriously about the calibre of our leaders. I'm not actually that critical of MPs in general but there are 650 of them and you would expect the cream to be rising to the top. That doesn't seem to be happening.
The electorate consistently reward politicians for lying about the future and blaming others for the present. How should ambitious politicians react to these rewards? Boris and Trump are just pre-runners of what we should expect unless the electorate somehow gets a grip themselves.
Has anyone else noticed how team PB Johnson/ Truss is painting Sunak to be as useless a loser as they have painted Starmer over the last two years?
I certainly think they have decided who is the next Conservative Party Leader.
Sun internet feed gonje down
Whoever said Keir needed to be *painted* as a useless loser? The only development is, Sunak has come in to his own as a Keir grade bore. Liz for the lolz is my position, cos I can't bear the thought of a sunak starmer pmqs.
Truss going over to help probably won't damage her chances.
She's so far ahead unless she caused an accident I think her chances are hard to budge. But chances to look actually human are rare for top line politicians. See Javid convincing that reporting to get a booster on air.
It’s truly unbelievable that we could have PM Truss in a few weeks time. Just reflect on that. PM Truss. WTF!!!!!
The UK’s journey from latrine to sewer will be complete in a few years time.
Fatal last words, but purely on a personal morals and standards level she would be hard pressed to be worse. So even if policies were no better or even worse, it's still an improvement.
'There he will set up a French company to export back to his own company in Wales.
He said the only way he could get around the “incredibly complicated” paperwork for importing alcohol was to establish a French company to export into the UK, and do the administration in the EU himself.
“I am doing what the government was suggesting, which is to have a company here and in Europe to mitigate the impact of Brexit,” he said. “What I’m doing will enable me to import and export into and out of the EU within the company itself, so that we mitigate all of the cost of importing into the UK.”'
And that's a lot of employment, profit and tax lost to the UK. As HMG should have knonw when they said "**** business, go away and set up elsewhere".
That's the same whinging individual who has been quoted a thousand times before.
If everyone is struggling, why is it always the same moaning FBPE bugger with an EU flag on his handle that is the goto to be quoted instead of thousands of different individuals all complaining?
There are so many questions left unanswered by that article, but that's definitely high up the list.
It sounds like he's decided to do his own logistics because the freight forwarders were ripping him off. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they were overcharging him in part because he was making their lives difficult at least as much as customs were. He's still going to have to do the same paperwork for cross-channel shipment, surely.
HS codes have of course long been familiar to people who export outside the EU, such as to Norway and the Channel Islands. It can be a bit of a pain to categorise your inventory but you should only need to do it once.
What happened there? Sounded like a microphone falling over.
A lot more than a microphone. That crashing sound was LOUD
I was listening to the TV rather than watching it, heard that very loud bang, the look of horror on the face of Liz Truss (and the Oh my god) was like something very bad has happened.
Arj Singh @singharj · 2m News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
What happened there? Sounded like a microphone falling over.
A lot more than a microphone. That crashing sound was LOUD
I was listening to the TV rather than watching it, heard that very loud bang, the look of horror on the face of Liz Truss (and the Oh my god) was like something very bad has happened.
Liz Truss argues that increase in NHS rise should be funded from general taxation - "we did have that money available in our budget". For better or worse, a major repudiation of Tory orthodoxy on the public finances.
Wut
I answered this on another thread. Cabinet collective responsibility means ministers have to support government policy or leave cabinet.
Arj Singh @singharj News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
But a medical issue doesn’t create a loud crashing noise
What happened there? Sounded like a microphone falling over.
A lot more than a microphone. That crashing sound was LOUD
Sounded terrible on times radio.
Immediately I thought the worst.
High profile event could it have been targeted?
Who knows. Whatever it was, I hope it was an accident.
It didn't sound anything like a bomb or an attack, and it happened right where the presenter was standing (judging by Truss' reaction). So hopefully just a nasty accident with a podium/rig, but no one badly hurt
Cool. She reacts, recovers and then ADVANCES to investigate before it all cuts out. The new Ellen Ripley.
Bye bye Sunak. Game over.
When things go your way...... i mean im hoping Kate is OK of course but Truss getting to be Mumma Bear whilst Robot Rishi has an aide assist (after getting him a coffee) etc etc
Arj Singh @singharj News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
But a medical issue doesn’t create a loud crashing noise
It does if she falls on the lectern knocking it over.
Arj Singh @singharj News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
But a medical issue doesn’t create a loud crashing noise
Arj Singh @singharj News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
But a medical issue doesn’t create a loud crashing noise
Arj Singh @singharj · 2m News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
Liz Truss argues that increase in NHS rise should be funded from general taxation - "we did have that money available in our budget". For better or worse, a major repudiation of Tory orthodoxy on the public finances.
Wut
I answered this on another thread. Cabinet collective responsibility means ministers have to support government policy or leave cabinet.
So why didn't she? It's a pretty major series of policy failures she seems to be identifying, the sort of thing she supposedly feels strongly about. And it's still a repudiation, even with collective responsibility - she cannot simultaneously claim it was an incredible government and also that it has royally f*cked up on major policy issues, when maintaining that policy is apparently beyond the pale.
Or at least she shouldn't be able to simultaneously claim it.
Arj Singh @singharj News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
But a medical issue doesn’t create a loud crashing noise
But things which create a loud crashing noise are also capable of causing medical issues.
Arj Singh @singharj News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
But a medical issue doesn’t create a loud crashing noise
Unless she fainted and that caused something she was connected to to fall?
Liz Truss argues that increase in NHS rise should be funded from general taxation - "we did have that money available in our budget". For better or worse, a major repudiation of Tory orthodoxy on the public finances.
Wut
I answered this on another thread. Cabinet collective responsibility means ministers have to support government policy or leave cabinet.
So why didn't she? It's a pretty major series of policy failures she seems to be identifying, the sort of thing she supposedly feels strongly about. And it's still a repudiation, even with collective responsibility - she cannot simultaneously claim it was an incredible government and also that it has royally f*cked up on major policy issues, when maintaining that policy is apparently beyond the pale.
Or at least she shouldn't be able to simultaneously claim it.
Of course you can. You can think its better to remain inside the tent making your case than going to the backbenches handing more power to those who don't think like you.
Cool. She reacts, recovers and then ADVANCES to investigate before it all cuts out. The new Ellen Ripley.
Bye bye Sunak. Game over.
When things go your way...... i mean im hoping Kate is OK of course but Truss getting to be Mumma Bear whilst Robot Rishi has an aide assist (after getting him a coffee) etc etc
The camera was on Truss, for all we know Rishi might have rushed over first.
8:48 BREAKING Presenter 'fainted and collapsed' A well informed source has told the BBC the Tory debate crashed off air because presenter Kate McCann is understood to have fainted and collapsed. She was presenting alone, after Harry Cole pulled out with Covid.
Liz Truss argues that increase in NHS rise should be funded from general taxation - "we did have that money available in our budget". For better or worse, a major repudiation of Tory orthodoxy on the public finances.
Wut
I answered this on another thread. Cabinet collective responsibility means ministers have to support government policy or leave cabinet.
So why didn't she? It's a pretty major series of policy failures she seems to be identifying, the sort of thing she supposedly feels strongly about. And it's still a repudiation, even with collective responsibility - she cannot simultaneously claim it was an incredible government and also that it has royally f*cked up on major policy issues, when maintaining that policy is apparently beyond the pale.
Or at least she shouldn't be able to simultaneously claim it.
Of course you can. You can think its better to remain inside the tent making your case than going to the backbenches handing more power to those who don't think like you.
No, I don't buy it. You can claim that for some smaller things, or even a significant thing or two, but she seems to be arguing all the governments she served under were fundamentally in error about how to address basic economic problems. At a certain level the 'stay in the tent' argument does not work (and I bet people do not extend that courtesy to, say, Keir Starmer).
At that point you are just making things worse by staying in the tent, since she apparently had zero success in changing that economic direction in 8 years.
This is not a case of 'I was not in favour of raising implenting policy A, but on balance better to stay as we were doing good' it is 'We were completely wrong this whole time'. What person stays backing fundamental policies they disagree with, especially as they haven't made their case at all during that period it seems?
Right at the end of that you can hear a groan that sounds like I would if I'd just fainted an fallen badly. Though obviously I would be terribly stoic about such things and certainly wouldn't wee myself and cry 'till Liz told me I was a brave boy.
Cool. She reacts, recovers and then ADVANCES to investigate before it all cuts out. The new Ellen Ripley.
Bye bye Sunak. Game over.
When things go your way...... i mean im hoping Kate is OK of course but Truss getting to be Mumma Bear whilst Robot Rishi has an aide assist (after getting him a coffee) etc etc
The camera was on Truss, for all we know Rishi might have rushed over first.
Yes i know but the camera was on Truss. When things go your way..... what was seen was her going to help.
PM Viktor Orbán's long-time adviser, Zsuzsa Hegedüs resigns, telling his boss in a letter that "I don't know how you didn't notice that you were turning your earlier anti-migrant and anti-Europeanism into a pure Nazi speech worthy of Goebbels”
8:48 BREAKING Presenter 'fainted and collapsed' A well informed source has told the BBC the Tory debate crashed off air because presenter Kate McCann is understood to have fainted and collapsed. She was presenting alone, after Harry Cole pulled out with Covid.
Cool. She reacts, recovers and then ADVANCES to investigate before it all cuts out. The new Ellen Ripley.
Bye bye Sunak. Game over.
When things go your way...... i mean im hoping Kate is OK of course but Truss getting to be Mumma Bear whilst Robot Rishi has an aide assist (after getting him a coffee) etc etc
The camera was on Truss, for all we know Rishi might have rushed over first.
Could be, but lacking visuals it'll be easy for the joke to be made. wooliedyed's already done it, and you can bet there are others floating around, like how Sunal wouldn't even have paused in his delivery or something.
8:48 BREAKING Presenter 'fainted and collapsed' A well informed source has told the BBC the Tory debate crashed off air because presenter Kate McCann is understood to have fainted and collapsed. She was presenting alone, after Harry Cole pulled out with Covid.
We'll bring you more when we have it.
God speed and good health to Ms McCann
Covid?
Possible if she'd been working on this with the Tubby Cuck before he pulled out with it
Cool. She reacts, recovers and then ADVANCES to investigate before it all cuts out. The new Ellen Ripley.
Bye bye Sunak. Game over.
When things go your way...... i mean im hoping Kate is OK of course but Truss getting to be Mumma Bear whilst Robot Rishi has an aide assist (after getting him a coffee) etc etc
The camera was on Truss, for all we know Rishi might have rushed over first.
Yes i know but the camera was on Truss. When things go your way..... what was seen was her going to help.
Quite. It wasn't Bob Dole's fault that railing gave way.
Comments
"Red tape and tax cuts".
"I still can't eat"
Enchanted says hello. Disney Princess becomes a loving stepmother.
But it is too late for him
oh god
My favourite line from the story was this:
Lord Cruddas said he felt ashamed the PM could be ousted in Britain, adding Britons live in a country he can barely recognise any longer
Since it reveals quite clearly he has not the slightest idea how the country works, and so he is saying he barely recognises the reality from the fantasy Britain he has invented in his head where PMs could not be ousted by their party. I mean, what are they even legally challenging - he stated he would be resigning, thus a vacancy emerged, end of.
It's just so histrionic it is barely believable - why would anyone worship any politician so much, nevermind Boris Johnson?
If everyone is struggling, why is it always the same moaning FBPE bugger with an EU flag on his handle that is the goto to be quoted instead of thousands of different individuals all complaining?
Jesus
At some point we are going to have to think seriously about the calibre of our leaders. I'm not actually that critical of MPs in general but there are 650 of them and you would expect the cream to be rising to the top. That doesn't seem to be happening.
https://twitter.com/pimlicat/status/1551984635533557765?s=20&t=34WEgTorCTbnJCxIukNXYw
This is 10x more exciting than the debate!
Nasty. Shocking. Hope she's ok
A moment of disruption while Liz Truss answers a question about the UK's support for Ukraine amid the Russian invasion.
It appears a podium has been knocked over, but we don't know for sure. Truss looks panicked as a loud crash is heard in the studio.
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1551985003004940288
Whoever said Keir needed to be *painted* as a useless loser? The only development is, Sunak has come in to his own as a Keir grade bore. Liz for the lolz is my position, cos I can't bear the thought of a sunak starmer pmqs.
The UK’s journey from latrine to sewer will be complete in a few years time.
Guess that was wrong.
Hope everyone's OK.
Bye bye Sunak. Game over.
Immediately I thought the worst.
High profile event could it have been targeted?
Who knows. Whatever it was, I hope it was an accident.
It sounds like he's decided to do his own logistics because the freight forwarders were ripping him off. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they were overcharging him in part because he was making their lives difficult at least as much as customs were. He's still going to have to do the same paperwork for cross-channel shipment, surely.
HS codes have of course long been familiar to people who export outside the EU, such as to Norway and the Channel Islands. It can be a bit of a pain to categorise your inventory but you should only need to do it once.
@singharj
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News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
@singharj
News UK spokeswoman: "There's been a medical issue, it's not a security issue and the candidates are okay" - "if we can get back on air we will"
But a medical issue doesn’t create a loud crashing noise
Quite alarming tho
Hope everyone’s ok.
Or at least she shouldn't be able to simultaneously claim it.
Then why the awful crashing sound?
I was just saying it was boring, as well
I'll start - Sunak reacted like a fighter pilot and Truss took his lead. Sub.
I'm going to guess something fell from that ceiling....
BREAKING
Presenter 'fainted and collapsed'
A well informed source has told the BBC the Tory debate crashed off air because presenter Kate McCann is understood to have fainted and collapsed. She was presenting alone, after Harry Cole pulled out with Covid.
We'll bring you more when we have it.
EDIT: If that rumour about McCann collapsing is true, fingers crossed it was just from the heat of the set and she'll make a full and speedy recovery.
At that point you are just making things worse by staying in the tent, since she apparently had zero success in changing that economic direction in 8 years.
This is not a case of 'I was not in favour of raising implenting policy A, but on balance better to stay as we were doing good' it is 'We were completely wrong this whole time'. What person stays backing fundamental policies they disagree with, especially as they haven't made their case at all during that period it seems?
https://twitter.com/panyiszabolcs/status/1551908898575196160
The tax rises were less than a year ago. Her policy is to go back to the prior rates promised to be kept by the Manifesto so not 8 years.
Covid?
https://twitter.com/katyballs/status/1551988634823319565?s=20&t=09H5kIcBxMBwWq0cyr8fdg
@JuliaHB1
Ok. I've been told that
@KateEMcCann
is ok. That's all I know.
https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1551987166061989891