Truss dominates Sunak in the polling except the key one? – politicalbetting.com
Tory members think both candidates performed well in last night's leadership debate, but more say so of Truss than SunakTrussDid well: 78%Did badly: 21%SunakDid well: 65%Did badly: 34%https://t.co/UHictqetge pic.twitter.com/qmLqXMH0YT
So a third of Tory voters in the Red Wall think Keir would be a better PM than Truss? Is this historically high or not? Anyone got anything to compare it to?
So a third of Tory voters in the Red Wall think Keir would be a better PM than Truss? Is this historically high or not? Anyone got anything to compare it to?
Not sure but looking at the figures against VI, it also means an awful lot of Labour voters dont think Starmer would be a better PM either..... I'd suggest the figures are a little skewed because Rishi ravers dont want Liz and vice versa. It will settle once election completed
Good headline, @TheScreamingEagles . If I didn’t know better I’d think an experienced sub had written it.
I have form, the weekend after Mrs May announced her snap election.
It seems every day new record breaking polls come out implying that the Tories are going win a stonking landslide on June the 8th, whilst Jeremy Corbyn and Labour would suffer less punishment if they booked 400 dominatrices concurrently that night and chose ‘mower’ as their safe word.
@wooliedyed perhaps Truss should risk a GE? Before the economic headwinds get too bad?
If she gets a lead of anything over 5 points i would suggest going for it. She either gets 5 years to ride out the storm or is LOTO against a ridiculously weak Starmer multi party coalition/minority
But its carrying the party/convincing them its the best chance
He has changed his tune, this is him in March 2021
That [seafood market in Wuhan] was definitely connected to a lot of the early cases, but it's now clear that the epidemic started well before that," said Canadian researcher Michael Worobey, professor and head of the University of Arizona's Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology.
"Rather than being the source of early infections from animals to humans in that market, it was probably really a human-to-human amplifier of outbreak," Worobey told Quirks & Quarks host, Bob McDonald.
Current thread says it started in the seafood market, no ifs or buts. Bit hard to take seriously.
@wooliedyed perhaps Truss should risk a GE? Before the economic headwinds get too bad?
If she gets a lead of anything over 5 points i would suggest going for it. She either gets 5 years to ride out the storm or is LOTO against a ridiculously weak Starmer multi party coalition/minority
But its carrying the party/convincing them its the best chance
However im far from convinced she will get a 5 point lead outwith Opinium
So a third of Tory voters in the Red Wall think Keir would be a better PM than Truss? Is this historically high or not? Anyone got anything to compare it to?
Is that based on current voting intention or 2019 vote?
So a third of Tory voters in the Red Wall think Keir would be a better PM than Truss? Is this historically high or not? Anyone got anything to compare it to?
Is that based on current voting intention or 2019 vote?
So a third of Tory voters in the Red Wall think Keir would be a better PM than Truss? Is this historically high or not? Anyone got anything to compare it to?
Is that based on current voting intention or 2019 vote?
So a third of Tory voters in the Red Wall think Keir would be a better PM than Truss? Is this historically high or not? Anyone got anything to compare it to?
Is that based on current voting intention or 2019 vote?
The person behind Labour's social media team has got some game.
I assumed yesterday that the opening shot was showing two holograms, but I've seen it suggested that it was actually a live shot of them. Does anyone know the answer?
Which of the following individuals do Conservative Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the United Kingdom? (25-26 July)
Liz Truss 47% Rishi Sunak 34% Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48% Keir Starmer 33% Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54% Keir Starmer 27% Don't Know 20%
Starmer will be absolutely delighted with those numbers.
Christ.
Do note this is CONSERVATIVE voters, not all voters as I originally read it as. A third of Tory voters think Starmer would be a better PM than Truss.
But do also remember we are in a leadership battle. Rishi backers are predisposed and programmed to vote not Truss and Truss backers the same re Rishi. The key issue for them right now is the leadership not the next GE
Which of the following individuals do Conservative Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the United Kingdom? (25-26 July)
Liz Truss 47% Rishi Sunak 34% Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48% Keir Starmer 33% Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54% Keir Starmer 27% Don't Know 20%
Starmer will be absolutely delighted with those numbers.
Christ.
Do note this is CONSERVATIVE voters, not all voters as I originally read it as. A third of Tory voters think Starmer would be a better PM than Truss.
But do also remember we are in a leadership battle. Rishi backers are predispo andsed programmed to vote not Truss and Truss backers the same re Rishi. The key issue for them right now is the leadership not the next GE
Yes indeedy - one to study over the next few months.
If Truss starts behind though, it's not going to go well if the economy goes in the toilet.
Which of the following individuals do Conservative Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the United Kingdom? (25-26 July)
Liz Truss 47% Rishi Sunak 34% Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48% Keir Starmer 33% Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54% Keir Starmer 27% Don't Know 20%
Starmer will be absolutely delighted with those numbers.
Christ.
Do note this is CONSERVATIVE voters, not all voters as I originally read it as. A third of Tory voters think Starmer would be a better PM than Truss.
But do also remember we are in a leadership battle. Rishi backers are predispo andsed programmed to vote not Truss and Truss backers the same re Rishi. The key issue for them right now is the leadership not the next GE
Yes indeedy - one to study over the next few months.
If Truss starts behind though, it's not going to go well if the economy goes in the toilet.
She will likely surge to start as the Tories recoalesce and 'new thing' voters. She'll get a limited honeymoon to either use or bed down for the run in to late 2024
Which of the following individuals do Conservative Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the United Kingdom? (25-26 July)
Liz Truss 47% Rishi Sunak 34% Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48% Keir Starmer 33% Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54% Keir Starmer 27% Don't Know 20%
Starmer will be absolutely delighted with those numbers.
Christ.
Do note this is CONSERVATIVE voters, not all voters as I originally read it as. A third of Tory voters think Starmer would be a better PM than Truss.
But do also remember we are in a leadership battle. Rishi backers are predispo andsed programmed to vote not Truss and Truss backers the same re Rishi. The key issue for them right now is the leadership not the next GE
Yes indeedy - one to study over the next few months.
If Truss starts behind though, it's not going to go well if the economy goes in the toilet.
She will likely surge to start as the Tories recoalesce and 'new thing' voters. She'll get a limited honeymoon to either use or bed down for the run in to late 2024
So we will see if she's Gordo or Johnson.
The economy is not making me confident about her chances of success
Listened to TalkRadio on the way home, which is as close to ConMember radio as you'll get. Just wall to wall presenters and phone ins negative on Rishi. Not only is he behind he also has all the forces against him.
So a third of Tory voters in the Red Wall think Keir would be a better PM than Truss? Is this historically high or not? Anyone got anything to compare it to?
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes · 9m Hearing Team Rishi is wobbling and considering announcing some immediate multi-billion tax cuts... fancy that! Seems like they will be affordable after all now he's trailing badly.
So a third of Tory voters in the Red Wall think Keir would be a better PM than Truss? Is this historically high or not? Anyone got anything to compare it to?
Is that based on current voting intention or 2019 vote?
So if that is the assumption, a third of 2019 Tory voters think Keir Starmer would be a better PM than Truss.
(in the Red Wall)
It is 2019 voters. For comparison, 16% of 2019 Labour voters prefer Truss to SKS So better for Starmer but reflective too of the change in VI from 2019 to now
Which of the following individuals do Conservative Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the United Kingdom? (25-26 July)
Liz Truss 47% Rishi Sunak 34% Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48% Keir Starmer 33% Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54% Keir Starmer 27% Don't Know 20%
Starmer will be absolutely delighted with those numbers.
Christ.
Do note this is CONSERVATIVE voters, not all voters as I originally read it as. A third of Tory voters think Starmer would be a better PM than Truss.
But do also remember we are in a leadership battle. Rishi backers are predispo andsed programmed to vote not Truss and Truss backers the same re Rishi. The key issue for them right now is the leadership not the next GE
Yes indeedy - one to study over the next few months.
If Truss starts behind though, it's not going to go well if the economy goes in the toilet.
She will likely surge to start as the Tories recoalesce and 'new thing' voters. She'll get a limited honeymoon to either use or bed down for the run in to late 2024
So we will see if she's Gordo or Johnson.
The economy is not making me confident about her chances of success
Attlee faced a much more difficult economic situation.
Which of the following individuals do Conservative Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the United Kingdom? (25-26 July)
Liz Truss 47% Rishi Sunak 34% Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48% Keir Starmer 33% Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54% Keir Starmer 27% Don't Know 20%
Starmer will be absolutely delighted with those numbers.
Christ.
Do note this is CONSERVATIVE voters, not all voters as I originally read it as. A third of Tory voters think Starmer would be a better PM than Truss.
But do also remember we are in a leadership battle. Rishi backers are predispo andsed programmed to vote not Truss and Truss backers the same re Rishi. The key issue for them right now is the leadership not the next GE
Yes indeedy - one to study over the next few months.
If Truss starts behind though, it's not going to go well if the economy goes in the toilet.
She will likely surge to start as the Tories recoalesce and 'new thing' voters. She'll get a limited honeymoon to either use or bed down for the run in to late 2024
So we will see if she's Gordo or Johnson.
The economy is not making me confident about her chances of success
She will need the assistance of not inconsiderable smoke and mirrors
Hearing Team Rishi is wobbling and considering announcing some immediate multi-billion tax cuts... fancy that! Seems like they will be affordable after all now he's trailing badly.
That would surely destroy his credibility after last night's performance.
Listened to TalkRadio on the way home, which is as close to ConMember radio as you'll get. Just wall to wall presenters and phone ins negative on Rishi. Not only is he behind he also has all the forces against him.
Truss to cancel Rishi's planned rise in Corporation Tax you say?
Which of the following individuals do Conservative Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the United Kingdom? (25-26 July)
Liz Truss 47% Rishi Sunak 34% Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48% Keir Starmer 33% Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54% Keir Starmer 27% Don't Know 20%
Starmer will be absolutely delighted with those numbers.
Christ.
Do note this is CONSERVATIVE voters, not all voters as I originally read it as. A third of Tory voters think Starmer would be a better PM than Truss.
But do also remember we are in a leadership battle. Rishi backers are predispo andsed programmed to vote not Truss and Truss backers the same re Rishi. The key issue for them right now is the leadership not the next GE
Yes indeedy - one to study over the next few months.
If Truss starts behind though, it's not going to go well if the economy goes in the toilet.
She will likely surge to start as the Tories recoalesce and 'new thing' voters. She'll get a limited honeymoon to either use or bed down for the run in to late 2024
So we will see if she's Gordo or Johnson.
The economy is not making me confident about her chances of success
Attlee faced a much more difficult economic situation.
Attlee had essentially run the domestic agenda during WW2.
Hearing Team Rishi is wobbling and considering announcing some immediate multi-billion tax cuts... fancy that! Seems like they will be affordable after all now he's trailing badly.
That would surely destroy his credibility after last night's performance.
Are they the ones he'd already pencilled in for 2023/4?
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes · 9m Hearing Team Rishi is wobbling and considering announcing some immediate multi-billion tax cuts... fancy that! Seems like they will be affordable after all now he's trailing badly.
Off topic but may be of interests to geologists on here.
I have acquired some 600 square metres of land which I am very very slowly turning into a garden and potager etc. it is currently wild and this week NW Electricity have started the process of removing an electricity pole on the land and laying the connection in an underground cable. It is hard work because the rock under the land (and we are on a hill) is dolerite, which is a sort of volcanic-like - and incredibly hard - rock, as you can see below.
Raised beds in the potager anyway. Even digging up a small bed in the front garden brought up quantities of the stuff. Imagine doing 600 sq mtrs!!
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes · 9m Hearing Team Rishi is wobbling and considering announcing some immediate multi-billion tax cuts... fancy that! Seems like they will be affordable after all now he's trailing badly.
Merkel made a number of serious policy mistakes during her time in office that, had it not been for her centrism, would have been put down to populism.
Off topic but may be of interests to geologists on here.
I have acquired some 600 square metres of land which I am very very slowly turning into a garden and potager etc. it is currently wild and this week NW Electricity have started the process of removing an electricity pole on the land and laying the connection in an underground cable. It is hard work because the rock under the land (and we are on a hill) is dolerite, which is a sort of volcanic-like - and incredibly hard - rock, as you can see below.
Raised beds in the potager anyway. Even digging up a small bed in the front garden brought up quantities of the stuff. Imagine doing 600 sq mtrs!!
Great! I’m working on a pier restoration project for which we need 500+ m3 of dolerite type rock. Mind if we establish a quarry in your garden?😁
Off topic but may be of interests to geologists on here.
I have acquired some 600 square metres of land which I am very very slowly turning into a garden and potager etc. it is currently wild and this week NW Electricity have started the process of removing an electricity pole on the land and laying the connection in an underground cable. It is hard work because the rock under the land (and we are on a hill) is dolerite, which is a sort of volcanic-like - and incredibly hard - rock, as you can see below.
Raised beds in the potager anyway. Even digging up a small bed in the front garden brought up quantities of the stuff. Imagine doing 600 sq mtrs!!
Don't they mine that stuff round there? You could see if anyone might want to buy it if you get enough collected.
Which of the following individuals do Conservative Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the United Kingdom? (25-26 July)
Liz Truss 47% Rishi Sunak 34% Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48% Keir Starmer 33% Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54% Keir Starmer 27% Don't Know 20%
A interesting comparison is with the latest (24th July) R&W poll amongst all 2019 Conservative voters across the whole country. Sunak led Starmer as best PM by 32% (55% to 23%) and Truss by +45% (60% to 15%).
So the margins amongst Red Wall 2019 Conservatives are much narrower than for 2019 Consevatives as a whole, at a pretty paltry +15% and +27% for Sunak and Truss respectively. That is good news for Starmer in the seats he needs to win back.
Off topic but may be of interests to geologists on here.
I have acquired some 600 square metres of land which I am very very slowly turning into a garden and potager etc. it is currently wild and this week NW Electricity have started the process of removing an electricity pole on the land and laying the connection in an underground cable. It is hard work because the rock under the land (and we are on a hill) is dolerite, which is a sort of volcanic-like - and incredibly hard - rock, as you can see below.
Raised beds in the potager anyway. Even digging up a small bed in the front garden brought up quantities of the stuff. Imagine doing 600 sq mtrs!!
Don't they mine that stuff round there? You could see if anyone might want to buy it if you get enough collected.
Labour leads Conservatives in ALL issues but Ukraine.
Which party do Red Wall voters trust the most on...? (Conservative | Labour)
Pandemic (27% | 31%) The NHS (20% | 40%) Immigration (21% | 30%) The Economy (26% | 33%) Levelling Up (18% | 38%)
That's a huge lead on levelling up. Especially since it's a Conservative flagship policy taken in the area it's supposed to benefit.
New research out from @IPPRNorth today shows public spending since ‘levelling up’ was unveiled - three years ago this week - has risen more in London than anywhere else; lowest rises in the north. It says levelling up has been ‘business as usual’ https://t.co/zGFz82WVLl
Labour leads Conservatives in ALL issues but Ukraine.
Which party do Red Wall voters trust the most on...? (Conservative | Labour)
Pandemic (27% | 31%) The NHS (20% | 40%) Immigration (21% | 30%) The Economy (26% | 33%) Levelling Up (18% | 38%)
That's a huge lead on levelling up. Especially since it's a Conservative flagship policy taken in the area it's supposed to benefit.
New research out from @IPPRNorth today shows public spending since ‘levelling up’ was unveiled - three years ago this week - has risen more in London than anywhere else; lowest rises in the north. It says levelling up has been ‘business as usual’ https://t.co/zGFz82WVLl
And yet. It has been noted more than once that folk down South think they are struggling because all the money is being spent up North. That's some good politics, there.
Labour leads Conservatives in ALL issues but Ukraine.
Which party do Red Wall voters trust the most on...? (Conservative | Labour)
Pandemic (27% | 31%) The NHS (20% | 40%) Immigration (21% | 30%) The Economy (26% | 33%) Levelling Up (18% | 38%)
Interesting to see labour, the party of open door migration, so ahead on that subject.
I’d guess that post brexit people are far more relaxed about migration. Over a million people came in the last 12 months, including 400,000 students, and barely a murmur.
Labour leads Conservatives in ALL issues but Ukraine.
Which party do Red Wall voters trust the most on...? (Conservative | Labour)
Pandemic (27% | 31%) The NHS (20% | 40%) Immigration (21% | 30%) The Economy (26% | 33%) Levelling Up (18% | 38%)
That's a huge lead on levelling up. Especially since it's a Conservative flagship policy taken in the area it's supposed to benefit.
New research out from @IPPRNorth today shows public spending since ‘levelling up’ was unveiled - three years ago this week - has risen more in London than anywhere else; lowest rises in the north. It says levelling up has been ‘business as usual’ https://t.co/zGFz82WVLl
I think for that to be serious you'd need the massive fiscal transfers the FDR made to the former GDR post reunification.
In reality it's meant a few million here and there for some town centre facelifts and a bit of HS2/transpennine.
'There he will set up a French company to export back to his own company in Wales.
He said the only way he could get around the “incredibly complicated” paperwork for importing alcohol was to establish a French company to export into the UK, and do the administration in the EU himself.
“I am doing what the government was suggesting, which is to have a company here and in Europe to mitigate the impact of Brexit,” he said. “What I’m doing will enable me to import and export into and out of the EU within the company itself, so that we mitigate all of the cost of importing into the UK.”'
And that's a lot of employment, profit and tax lost to the UK. As HMG should have knonw when they said "**** business, go away and set up elsewhere".
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes · 9m Hearing Team Rishi is wobbling and considering announcing some immediate multi-billion tax cuts... fancy that! Seems like they will be affordable after all now he's trailing badly.
Dirty tricks!
Rishi's best hope is to stick to his guns and hope to be vindicated in time, probably in opposition.
Off topic but may be of interests to geologists on here.
I have acquired some 600 square metres of land which I am very very slowly turning into a garden and potager etc. it is currently wild and this week NW Electricity have started the process of removing an electricity pole on the land and laying the connection in an underground cable. It is hard work because the rock under the land (and we are on a hill) is dolerite, which is a sort of volcanic-like - and incredibly hard - rock, as you can see below.
Raised beds in the potager anyway. Even digging up a small bed in the front garden brought up quantities of the stuff. Imagine doing 600 sq mtrs!!
Labour leads Conservatives in ALL issues but Ukraine.
Which party do Red Wall voters trust the most on...? (Conservative | Labour)
Pandemic (27% | 31%) The NHS (20% | 40%) Immigration (21% | 30%) The Economy (26% | 33%) Levelling Up (18% | 38%)
Interesting to see labour, the party of open door migration, so ahead on that subject.
I’d guess that post brexit people are far more relaxed about migration. Over a million people came in the last 12 months, including 400,000 students, and barely a murmur.
OTOH some polling showed it was No 2 concern amongst Tory voters/party members (can't recall which, members I think) recently. Some disconnect somewhere.
Sunak's tendency to use policy wonk vocabulary is really unfortunate: "Grip inflation", "surgical hubs to crack through the backlog". If I were waiting for an operation, I wouldn't want to hear that.
Sunak's tendency to use policy wonk vocabulary is really unfortunate: "Grip inflation", "surgical hubs to crack through the backlog". If I were waiting for an operation, I wouldn't want to hear that.
Has a 'new boy at McKinsey who's over-prepped his presentation' feel.
Liz Truss argues that increase in NHS rise should be funded from general taxation - "we did have that money available in our budget". For better or worse, a major repudiation of Tory orthodoxy on the public finances.
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1.27 Liz Truss 79%
4.8 Rishi Sunak 21%
Next Conservative leader
1.26 Liz Truss 79%
4.7 Rishi Sunak 21%
Liz Truss 38%
Rishi Sunak 33%
Don't Know 29%
Keir Starmer 44%
Rishi Sunak 29%
Don't Know 27%
Keir Starmer 40%
Liz Truss 35%
Don't Know 25%
Liz Truss 47%
Rishi Sunak 34%
Don't Know 20%
Rishi Sunak 48%
Keir Starmer 33%
Don't Know 27%
Liz Truss 54%
Keir Starmer 27%
Don't Know 20%
https://twitter.com/MichaelWorobey/status/1551949557205938176
Our preprints on the origin of SARS-CoV-2 have now been peer reviewed and published as a pair of Research Articles by @ScienceMagazine
Well worth a read for those still interested.
I'd suggest the figures are a little skewed because Rishi ravers dont want Liz and vice versa. It will settle once election completed
It seems every day new record breaking polls come out implying that the Tories are going win a stonking landslide on June the 8th, whilst Jeremy Corbyn and Labour would suffer less punishment if they booked 400 dominatrices concurrently that night and chose ‘mower’ as their safe word.
https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/04/23/why-a-1997-style-landslide-or-even-a-1983-style-landslide-might-not-happen-but-maybe-a-2005-style-majority-of-66-will/
But its carrying the party/convincing them its the best chance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngb9770xx10
That [seafood market in Wuhan] was definitely connected to a lot of the early cases, but it's now clear that the epidemic started well before that," said Canadian researcher Michael Worobey, professor and head of the University of Arizona's Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology.
"Rather than being the source of early infections from animals to humans in that market, it was probably really a human-to-human amplifier of outbreak," Worobey told Quirks & Quarks host, Bob McDonald.
Current thread says it started in the seafood market, no ifs or buts. Bit hard to take seriously.
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-red-wall-voting-intention-12-13-june-2022/
https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1551933291338547206
(in the Red Wall)
If Truss starts behind though, it's not going to go well if the economy goes in the toilet.
Liz Truss says she will legislate to deny workers the right to strike, despite unions warning that this would lead to an all out general strike.
I'd love to see how Truss plans to force workers, to work against their will. Also, what that might be called. ~AA
So Liz is against basic democratic rights then? Should we not be allowed to strike?
Sunak's a shouty little Tory boy.
The economy is not making me confident about her chances of success
Not only is he behind he also has all the forces against him.
Guido Fawkes
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Hearing Team Rishi is wobbling and considering announcing some immediate multi-billion tax cuts... fancy that! Seems like they will be affordable after all now he's trailing badly.
That was what got Johnson the job.
So better for Starmer but reflective too of the change in VI from 2019 to now
But I am afraid trying to legislate against them puts us down a very dark road indeed.
Which party do Red Wall voters trust the most on...? (Conservative | Labour)
Pandemic (27% | 31%)
The NHS (20% | 40%)
Immigration (21% | 30%)
The Economy (26% | 33%)
Levelling Up (18% | 38%)
I have acquired some 600 square metres of land which I am very very slowly turning into a garden and potager etc. it is currently wild and this week NW Electricity have started the process of removing an electricity pole on the land and laying the connection in an underground cable. It is hard work because the rock under the land (and we are on a hill) is dolerite, which is a sort of volcanic-like - and incredibly hard - rock, as you can see below.
Raised beds in the potager anyway. Even digging up a small bed in the front garden brought up quantities of the stuff. Imagine doing 600 sq mtrs!!
Especially since it's a Conservative flagship policy taken in the area it's supposed to benefit.
Vote Labour, the only party to have actually levelled up this country in the last thirty years.
Merkel made a number of serious policy mistakes during her time in office that, had it not been for her centrism, would have been put down to populism.
You could see if anyone might want to buy it if you get enough collected.
So the margins amongst Red Wall 2019 Conservatives are much narrower than for 2019 Consevatives as a whole, at a pretty paltry +15% and +27% for Sunak and Truss respectively. That is good news for Starmer in the seats he needs to win back.
versus
Rishi 'vanillaboy' Sunak
Let's RUMBLE
Shouldn't we be doing something about it before an election in two years time?!?!
And look at the co-authors: Angela Rasmussen, Kristian Andersen, on and on, and all part of the conspiracy to silence lab leak at the beginning
I can't see the point in this drivel
That's some good politics, there.
Off to the beach, then.
Laters.
I’d guess that post brexit people are far more relaxed about migration. Over a million people came in the last 12 months, including 400,000 students, and barely a murmur.
In reality it's meant a few million here and there for some town centre facelifts and a bit of HS2/transpennine.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/26/british-wine-wholesaler-leave-uk-over-post-brexit-paperwork
He's having to move to France:
'There he will set up a French company to export back to his own company in Wales.
He said the only way he could get around the “incredibly complicated” paperwork for importing alcohol was to establish a French company to export into the UK, and do the administration in the EU himself.
“I am doing what the government was suggesting, which is to have a company here and in Europe to mitigate the impact of Brexit,” he said. “What I’m doing will enable me to import and export into and out of the EU within the company itself, so that we mitigate all of the cost of importing into the UK.”'
And that's a lot of employment, profit and tax lost to the UK. As HMG should have knonw when they said "**** business, go away and set up elsewhere".
He's not going to win this one.
ETA it's what Osgood Mackenzie did at Inverewe.
The format yesterday was miles better
This is shyte. Both utterly unconvincing.
Right. Telly on.
I certainly think they have decided who is the next Conservative Party Leader.
Wut