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I hate to think what Rangers voting is ...Alanbrooke said:
You really haven't got the hang of celtic voting.Carnyx said:
Once!Alanbrooke said:
how often did you vote ? ;-)Carnyx said:
Of course, sorry, quite so, up too early to vote (but not often), thanks. I was thinking of the way in which every vote counts - not like so many FPTP GEs.Alanbrooke said:
First past the post plus one.Carnyx said:
How on earth do you work that out??Alanbrooke said:Alanbrooke said:
FFS this poll IS FPTP squaredCarnyx said:
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.Howard said:
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.ThomasNashe said:
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.Alistair said:Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Very, very refreshing after FPTP.
Its FPTP with only 2 candidates
I'll put you down as a NO :-)
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Aren't you in SF?RobD said:
*tea drinking intensifies*TheScreamingEagles said:Betfair price is back up to 6.
Calm down people.
Drinking tea at 1 in the afternoon...0 -
You've done a terrific job David - it's almost time to get yourself home for a large mug of cocoa, or whatever.DavidL said:
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.peter_from_putney said:
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?DavidL said:Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.0 -
Word on the street is that there are going to be a substantial number of prosecutions because of bogus voter registrations based upon 2nd home ownership (by people not otherwise normally resident in Scotland). I am aware of a number of active cases in a relatively small section of the West Highlands alone.Howard said:
I have never known law officers to prosecute for that.Stuart_Dickson said:
Please be aware that if your acquaintance has just cast a vote based upon second-home ownership alone (ie. not normally resident in Scotland) then she has just broken the law.YBarddCwsc said:I think Stuart Dickson did let slip once that he has a property in Scotland. So, my guess is he has voted postally.
And talking of second home-owners, an acquaintance of mine took her teenage daughter out of school for the day, and they both drove 250 odd miles to vote in person.
Also be aware that the relevant officers are keeping a very close eye on known 2nd home property registrations.0 -
Probably not this one - though it might make a caption contest.kle4 said:
Stunned realization he's achieved his life's endeavour will do that to a man, sadly.ThomasNashe said:
I'm really looking forward to the first shot of Salmond when the news is confirmed. For once, I don't think we'll see that famous smug grin.SouthamObserver said:The Yes camp seems absolutely certain of victory, as it has for weeks. The reaction if by some freak No wins will be something to behold.
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2 or 3 bottles of Champers at the bar for lucky (apparently, currently grumpy) Ms Briskin, Malky!!!!!!malcolmg said:
100 quid down the drain Briskin, what a donkeyJBriskin said:BANG - and the #indyref vote bet is done-
Inspired by a mini-vacation in Royal Deeside Mr and Ms Briskin have gone for-
100 quid at evens (ish) at Yes 45 - 50
NO FOR THE WIN!!!!!!
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Mr. Saddened, I read elsewhere a polling station or two had closed due to 100% turnout.0
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ask malcolmG - more NOs than Ian PaisleyCarnyx said:
I hate to think what Rangers voting is ...Alanbrooke said:
You really haven't got the hang of celtic voting.Carnyx said:
Once!Alanbrooke said:
how often did you vote ? ;-)Carnyx said:
Of course, sorry, quite so, up too early to vote (but not often), thanks. I was thinking of the way in which every vote counts - not like so many FPTP GEs.Alanbrooke said:
First past the post plus one.Carnyx said:
How on earth do you work that out??Alanbrooke said:Alanbrooke said:
FFS this poll IS FPTP squaredCarnyx said:
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.Howard said:
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.ThomasNashe said:
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.Alistair said:Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Very, very refreshing after FPTP.
Its FPTP with only 2 candidates
I'll put you down as a NO :-)0 -
Seems a bit harsh considering the MPs weren't prosecuted for pretending their 2nd home was their main residence to get thousands of pounds in expenses.Stuart_Dickson said:
Word on the street is that there are going to be a substantial number of prosecutions because of bogus voter registrations based upon 2nd home ownership (by people not otherwise normally resident in Scotland). I am aware of a number of active cases in a relatively small section of the West Highlands alone.Howard said:
I have never known law officers to prosecute for that.Stuart_Dickson said:
Please be aware that if your acquaintance has just cast a vote based upon second-home ownership alone (ie. not normally resident in Scotland) then she has just broken the law.YBarddCwsc said:I think Stuart Dickson did let slip once that he has a property in Scotland. So, my guess is he has voted postally.
And talking of second home-owners, an acquaintance of mine took her teenage daughter out of school for the day, and they both drove 250 odd miles to vote in person.
Also be aware that the relevant officers are keeping a very close eye on known 2nd home property registrations.
I wonder if the fact that they would probably be voting no has motivated this crackdown.0 -
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Thanks - I am not familiar with these things. I guess then the odds will respond and change rapidly after 10.SeanT said:
Surely not. Trading doesn't stop for by-elections etc. It carries on until the result is declared. not sure how you could legally stop it, anyway.Howard said:
Does trading stop at 10pm Sean?SeanT said:
I agree with that. In a race this huge and tight and tense, there are bound to be results which spook the market and send it all over the place. FFS the rumour of a rumour of a poll can shift Betfair substantially.Stuart_Dickson said:
Rock solid certainty.isam said:We could bet on the betting?
What price YES trades under 4.5?
YES is bound to trade under 4.5 at some point in the night. Of course if YES wins it will at some point crossover.0 -
council juice for you tomorrow BriskinJBriskin said:
2 or 3 bottles of Champers at the bar for lucky (apparently, currently grumpy) Ms Briskin, Malky!!!!!!malcolmg said:
100 quid down the drain Briskin, what a donkeyJBriskin said:BANG - and the #indyref vote bet is done-
Inspired by a mini-vacation in Royal Deeside Mr and Ms Briskin have gone for-
100 quid at evens (ish) at Yes 45 - 50
NO FOR THE WIN!!!!!!0 -
Trading on all Betfair's markets is 24/7 until the outcome is known (or voided, etc.)Howard said:
Does trading stop at 10pm Sean?SeanT said:
I agree with that. In a race this huge and tight and tense, there are bound to be results which spook the market and send it all over the place. FFS the rumour of a rumour of a poll can shift Betfair substantially.Stuart_Dickson said:
Rock solid certainty.isam said:We could bet on the betting?
What price YES trades under 4.5?
YES is bound to trade under 4.5 at some point in the night. Of course if YES wins it will at some point crossover.0 -
YES on the drift.
I'm calling it for No.0 -
Yes up to 6.20
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Doh you are kiddingSeanT said:
Also completely untrue, and denied by the polling station itself.malcolmg said:Imagine if this happened in the US. MT @moyesy A polling station in Falkirk has already closed because it's had 100% turnout #indyref
Apparently it is illegal for a polling station to close early, even if they do reach "100%" (however that is defined).0 -
YES moving out...
Wind of a poll?0 -
Happy with my predictions of 42-580
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For a bit of fun I am prepared to lay EVEN money that YES does not go lower than 4.5 again
First three respondents can have a tenner0 -
I am drinking Champers whether it goes the way I want or not!!!0
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It has come down to a contest between hope and fear.
If hope wins then it will be YES, if fear then it will be NO.
If its YES then the Scots deserve to be treated with respect and a mutually beneficial settlement agreed.
If its NO then the Scots deserve to be treated with contempt and ground down politically and economically.
And am I the only person who will be watching Spartacus: War Of The Dammed at 10pm rather than looking for Scottish exit polls ?
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Where is it on the drift?0
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The 45-50% band on betfair is pretty much a direct bet on the accuracy of the pollsters.
If you think there's a greater than 50% chance the polls are within 2.5% of the final result, back it, if you think they're more likely than not to be more than 2.5% out, lay it.
My hunch is to lay, yet statistically with MOE etc, I'd be stupid not to back.
It's going to be fascinating....0 -
2 wrongs do not make a right.CopperSulphate said:
Seems a bit harsh considering the MPs weren't prosecuted for pretending their 2nd home was their main residence to get thousands of pounds in expenses.Stuart_Dickson said:
Word on the street is that there are going to be a substantial number of prosecutions because of bogus voter registrations based upon 2nd home ownership (by people not otherwise normally resident in Scotland). I am aware of a number of active cases in a relatively small section of the West Highlands alone.Howard said:
I have never known law officers to prosecute for that.Stuart_Dickson said:
Please be aware that if your acquaintance has just cast a vote based upon second-home ownership alone (ie. not normally resident in Scotland) then she has just broken the law.YBarddCwsc said:I think Stuart Dickson did let slip once that he has a property in Scotland. So, my guess is he has voted postally.
And talking of second home-owners, an acquaintance of mine took her teenage daughter out of school for the day, and they both drove 250 odd miles to vote in person.
Also be aware that the relevant officers are keeping a very close eye on known 2nd home property registrations.
I wonder if the fact that they would probably be voting no has motivated this crackdown.
Just because Alistair Darling got caught but let off by resigning from the Faculty of Advocates does not protect ordinary people from harsh prosecution. I have no idea if they are yes or no voters.0 -
@Alanbrooke and @malcolmg
Actually, now I look at the issue, I must have missed this. The samples must be rather small for the smaller clubs, but there must be a fair sample for Rangers and Celtic. Just a bit surprising if it is true.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/old-firm-united-both-celtic-3598872
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Not long now, chaps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJ-wNmazHQ0 -
Ave it says:
Yes 44% No 56%!!!!0 -
My polling station 57.1% turnout. Can't see why it would be seriously atypical. Voting stopped at lunchtime.0
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Richard very true, if NO Scotland should be gutted , it would be an ex country full of wankers and deserve all it got.0
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indyref twitter heat map via @ jamesrbuk
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759720/From-Fife-Fiji-Amazing-Twitter-heatmap-shows-Scottish-independence-referendum-followed-world.html0 -
Betfair just jumped
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"Word on the street is that there are going to be a substantial number of prosecutions because of bogus voter registrations based upon 2nd home ownership (by people not otherwise normally resident in Scotland). I am aware of a number of active cases in a relatively small section of the West Highlands alone."
Excellent. I don't much like my acquaintance anyhow. It's good to know Dickson is on the case.
And, also, I think she may voted Yes. At least, she is an ardent Scottish patriot.
But, she is also very concerned about taxes going up, so she may have voted No.0 -
Thank you for all your work. I sincerely hope it has not been in vain.DavidL said:
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.peter_from_putney said:
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?DavidL said:Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.0 -
Six minutes to go, shame there are no exit polls. Instead we have to make do with the likes of Kevin Maguire.0
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sorry AR rare we disagree, but if it's yes scots deserve to be treated with contempt since they're thick and all their daughters need a taxi drive in rotherham.another_richard said:It has come down to a contest between hope and fear.
If hope wins then it will be YES, if fear then it will be NO.
If its YES then the Scots deserve to be treated with respect and a mutually beneficial settlement agreed.
If its NO then the Scots deserve to be treated with contempt and ground down politically and economically.
And am I the only person who will be watching Spartacus: War Of The Dammed at 10pm rather than looking for Scottish exit polls ?
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Dittoviewcode said:
Amen.Alanbrooke said:
David if the Union holds guys like you have done a cracking job.DavidL said:
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.peter_from_putney said:
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?DavidL said:Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.
We all owe you.0 -
Looks like the referendum is invalid and will have to be re run as part of Scotland was left out. If the rerun produces a Yes Labour will be looking for a new leader in 2016.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2760467/Doncaster-technically-Scotland-signed-900-years-ago-never-formally-given-back.html0 -
Do we all sing Auld Lang Syne at 10pm?
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From Previous Thread.Charles said:
If they are more generous on welfare, and have a fixed budget, won't that just mean people move fom England to Scotland to claim benefits?manofkent2014 said:<
I have no doubt it will be less than Salmond wants (Independence) so he will whine incessantly throughout the whole exercise which will result in him being offered more than the government wants to give and that will likely have a cost to it. As it goes as pensions are one of the biggest headaches for Government. Having funding which is fully accounted for has no allure to it at all. There is no good news there for voters. I'm quite sure Salmond will be happy if London hangs on to that for the time being. That he can wrest control of the rest of the Welfare policy I suspect is more his aim and then he will be able to further wind up the English.
But still that is not the main problem with what is on offer. It is the seemingly open ended continuation of that economic nonsense Barnett which means that London aside southern and eastern regions of England remain outrageously underfunded in order that north of the border they can have free prescriptions, free university education and presumably in future advantageous welfare settlements.
Possibly but given the SNP's track record on Tuition Fees it's quite possible they would devise some sort of discriminatory method of denying the migrants from the south from getting any advantage. How that would then play with the EU would be interesting0 -
There are no exit polls.another_richard said:It has come down to a contest between hope and fear.
If hope wins then it will be YES, if fear then it will be NO.
If its YES then the Scots deserve to be treated with respect and a mutually beneficial settlement agreed.
If its NO then the Scots deserve to be treated with contempt and ground down politically and economically.
And am I the only person who will be watching Spartacus: War Of The Dammed at 10pm rather than looking for Scottish exit polls ?0 -
Mr. Putney, isn't YouGov doing one?0
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jesus malc when it comes to wanking scots are looking drained.malcolmg said:Richard very true, if NO Scotland should be gutted , it would be an ex country full of wankers and deserve all it got.
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Is the pulsating red one Malcolms house?Carola said:indyref twitter heat map via @ jamesrbuk
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759720/From-Fife-Fiji-Amazing-Twitter-heatmap-shows-Scottish-independence-referendum-followed-world.html0 -
Shocked he's not in Scotland, it's not like they announced the referendum date last week. Plastic natCharles said:
Not much of a GOTV operation in UppsalaMaddocio said:If Stuart Dickson really wants a yes vote then why the hell is he dicking around on political betting.com while the polls are still open?
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YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead down one to two points: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%0
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could be one of my housesPaul_Mid_Beds said:
Is the pulsating red one Malcolms house?Carola said:indyref twitter heat map via @ jamesrbuk
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759720/From-Fife-Fiji-Amazing-Twitter-heatmap-shows-Scottish-independence-referendum-followed-world.html0 -
YouGov daily poll anyone?
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Popcorn at the ready for a long night ahead.
I guess my main hope is that it's decisive either way - uniting Scotland in the coming months might be far harder than campaigning either way, and a clear cut result might make it that bit easier.0 -
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead down one to two points: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%0
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Presumably plus postals?DavidL said:My polling station 57.1% turnout. Can't see why it would be seriously atypical. Voting stopped at lunchtime.
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As I understand we're getting an exit poll that isn't an exit poll.
Reportedly YouGov have polled people today, on how they intended to vote.0 -
Freedom come all ye, and A man's a man for a that, I would hope.MarkHopkins said:
Do we all sing Auld Lang Syne at 10pm?
Scots wha hae is strictly for the No side to sing, as it is about Bannockburn, which they love.
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Bed for me soon off on hols tomorrow0
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Claims that some polling stations in Glasgow apparently as high as 70% for yes, asking how they voted after the event I assume0
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Mr. Eagles, an entry poll? Any ETA?0
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I'll stick it on Youtube in 2 mins!!!!!!!! (i.e 10pm)MarkHopkins said:
Do we all sing Auld Lang Syne at 10pm?
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Anyway in the important news Everton have just banged in a fourth :-)0
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Tonights YG LAB 333 CON 272 LD 18 Other 27
Ed is Crap is PM-1 -
I was rather hoping for some local council by elections...murali_s said:YouGov daily poll anyone?
(I'll get my coat)0 -
If it is a Yes who is going to volunteer to recalculate the polls without the Scottish share of the vote?0
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yeah progressive scotlandCarnyx said:
Freedom come all ye, and A man's a man for a that, I would hope.MarkHopkins said:
Do we all sing Auld Lang Syne at 10pm?
Scots wha hae is strictly for the No side to sing, as it is about Bannockburn, which they love.
#quotingfreemasons0 -
Well, this is it everyone..0
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O/T
Westminster Voting Intention:
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead down one to two points: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%0 -
YouGov @YouGov 20s
YouGov will announce its final #IndyRef prediction at 22:30, based on recontacting voters today after they voted0 -
Here we go.
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Is there a frickin' exit poll , or not?
Anyone know?0 -
That's brilliant!Paul_Mid_Beds said:Looks like the referendum is invalid and will have to be re run as part of Scotland was left out. If the rerun produces a Yes Labour will be looking for a new leader in 2016.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2760467/Doncaster-technically-Scotland-signed-900-years-ago-never-formally-given-back.html
Does it mean we can get hope to get rid of Ed Miliband as well as Gordon Brown, assuming the Scots have done the decent thing?0 -
Actually, the Graun is reporting a capella choir outside Holyrood. No idea what they are singing though!Alanbrooke said:
yeah progressive scotlandCarnyx said:
Freedom come all ye, and A man's a man for a that, I would hope.MarkHopkins said:
Do we all sing Auld Lang Syne at 10pm?
Scots wha hae is strictly for the No side to sing, as it is about Bannockburn, which they love.
#quotingfreemasons
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Ok - we know that no has won!
We can withdraw the extra benefits now!!!!0 -
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The £ has really spiked upwards in the last 15 minutes.0
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To give myself an idea to compare with, I dug out my results sheet from the 1997 Devolution referendum, and the times of declaration are given as follows:
00:41 Clackmannan
00:50 South Lanarkshire
01:49 West Lothian
01:54 Orkney
01:59 Renfrewshire
02:11 Western Isles
02:15 Moray
02:20 Dundee
02:27 East Renfrewshire
02:31 South Ayrshire
02:37 East Lothian
02:45 Dumfries & Galloway
02:53 Falkirk
02:57 Stirling
03:02 Perth & Kinross
03:05 Edinburgh
03:09 Midlothian
03:13 Shetland
03:17 West Dumbartonshire
03:22 Inverclyde
03:27 Angus
03:32 Glasgow
03:36 Fife
03:40 Borders
03:46 East Ayrshire
03:50 North Ayrshire
04:08 North Lanarkshire
04:13 Aberdeen
04:17 East Dumbartonshire
04:21 Aberdeenshire
04:27 Argyll & Bute
05:47 Highland0 -
"ouGov will announce its final #IndyRef prediction at 22:30, based on recontacting voters today after they voted"
EEk. I still predict 51% yes.0 -
Schottland uber alles ?Carnyx said:
Actually, the Graun is reporting a capella choir outside Holyrood. No idea what they are singing though!Alanbrooke said:
yeah progressive scotlandCarnyx said:
Freedom come all ye, and A man's a man for a that, I would hope.MarkHopkins said:
Do we all sing Auld Lang Syne at 10pm?
Scots wha hae is strictly for the No side to sing, as it is about Bannockburn, which they love.
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English aren't allowed to vote in this election!!!!!malcolmg said:
I spoke to one person who had voted NO today, my English son-in -law and he nearly went YES.jimmyczz said:Claims that some polling stations in Glasgow apparently as high as 70% for yes, asking how they voted after the event I assume
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steve richards @steverichards14
If Scotland votes 'no' with devo max there will be the 'English question' to answer. I expect the row over England to begin around 7am
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Why is there no exit poll, by the way?0
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Thank God it is over0
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Hear hear! Quite apart from the suspense...did you enjoy it a bit too?peter_from_putney said:
You've done a terrific job David - it's almost time to get yourself home for a large mug of cocoa, or whatever.
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I hope they don't go, they would have staggering levels of unemployment and no help from anyone. How can they not know?0
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In other news...
"Security forces in Australia have prevented an alleged Islamic State plot to carry out a filmed beheading of a random person in Sydney “within days” as part of a series of gruesome public executions. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11103346/Australia-foils-Islamic-State-terror-plot-to-commit-Lee-Rigby-style-murders.html0 -
FIRST post after the polls close..... Oh b*gg*r0
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Mr Briskin , he resides in God's country having married my daughter. To be fair so do his family who are sure to be No's but in Australia so hopefully did not vote.JBriskin said:
English aren't allowed to vote in this election!!!!!malcolmg said:
I spoke to one person who had voted NO today, my English son-in -law and he nearly went YES.jimmyczz said:Claims that some polling stations in Glasgow apparently as high as 70% for yes, asking how they voted after the event I assume
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Michael Fabricant ✔ @Mike_Fabricant
Whether it is No or Yes, and I think it will be No, we need a new deal for the UK and a new Act of Union with clear powers for each nation
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No, that's Kinloss, on the Moray firth. Now a barracks, not an RAF base by the way.Unionist1707 said:
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Moment of truth. Anxious!HurstLlama said:Thank God it is over
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Ah ok, that answers my question about benchmarks and weighting. The key thing then to look for is any polling day movement.Howard said:"ouGov will announce its final #IndyRef prediction at 22:30, based on recontacting voters today after they voted"
EEk. I still predict 51% yes.
It does still beg the question about how exactly they are contacting? Landlines? Really? Young people generally don't have landlines these days. Or is it mobiles? Or online?
Just having a wobble as to whether pollsters have really switched on to the changing world of communications.0 -
Another union benefitEh_ehm_a_eh said:
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Chris Green ✔ @cghgreen
YouGov poll conducted AFTER people voted will be released at 10.30pm, it says #IndyRef
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