"Sunday Herald Editor, saying he's heard from several sources yes is ahead in postal vote"
I read this tweet. Does anyone know if its possible that this could be known at this stage?
Surely they only count postals at the same time as the other ballots?
It's often possible with good eyesight to make a good guess from verification of the postal votes. Quoting from that IS illegal, but saying you've met someone who did is not.
I thought that the Chief Returning Officer had decided that postal votes were to be mixed in with the ballots on the day? There were critics of this who pointed to the doubts raised in the previous Glenrothes election
Betfair's main Indy market does appear to have gone strangely quiet. Perhaps the high rollers have done all their business and retired for the night, or at least until the results start coming in.
I don't think old people would have no landline, but I think deprived people may. I think the lowest income 10% who are essentially not in good accommodation.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
Yes has done better among the very deprived than No.
I'm sure that's right. I guess if you, your kids and your kids' kids had all subsisted on estates for decades, seeing one Labour MP after another come and go with no change, you'd be ready to vote for anything.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
New here so apologies for what is probably a stupid question. In a two horse race, huge unknowns, difference between the sides in polls within the margin of error, how can the odds be so wildly out? 6.4 on yes must be a worth a bet, possibly a huge one? What am I missing?
"Have you ever wondered how the man who drives the snowplough gets to the snowplough" if anyone remembers this most famous VW commercial it got me thinking who the two people who manned the polling station voted. Well the answer in the polling station I was manning both voted YES. The Bastards! Prediction turnout 86% Yes 46 .
New here so apologies for what is probably a stupid question. In a two horse race, huge unknowns, difference between the sides in polls within the margin of error, how can the odds be so wildly out? 6.4 on yes must be a worth a bet, possibly a huge one? What am I missing?
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
There will undoubtedly be a high proportion of postals - but the main factor was the use of a helecopter to pick all the ballot boxes up. The'd probably have all 22000 votes ready to count by 11pm in that case - hence the early estimated declaration.
If the helecopter can't fly, then the boxes will be taken by road tomorrow morning.
"Have you ever wondered how the man who drives the snowplough gets to the snowplough" if anyone remembers this most famous VW commercial it got me thinking who the two people who manned the polling station voted. Well the answer in the polling station I was manning both voted YES. The Bastards! Prediction turnout 86% Yes 46 .
Roger
good to see you can do some manual work outside the confines of your bathroom.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
I've thought from the start turnout would be something like 75% rather than some of the more spectacular predictions. I say this admittedly having not set foot in Scotland in years and there's a very good chance I'm completely wrong, but I suppose cynically I just wonder whether ANYTHING political (even something as significant as this) could ever engage 90%+ of the public in this day and age.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
"Sunday Herald Editor, saying he's heard from several sources yes is ahead in postal vote"
I read this tweet. Does anyone know if its possible that this could be known at this stage?
Surely they only count postals at the same time as the other ballots?
It's often possible with good eyesight to make a good guess from verification of the postal votes. Quoting from that IS illegal, but saying you've met someone who did is not.
I thought that the Chief Returning Officer had decided that postal votes were to be mixed in with the ballots on the day? There were critics of this who pointed to the doubts raised in the previous Glenrothes election
They're still verified as they come in (to save fiddling about with declaration forms on the day). It's done face down but some claim to be able to see through the papers, or you can catch glimpses as they're laid down, a bit like a card sharp watching the dealer. I have a LibDem colleague who was extremely confident of it at the Euros (but was mostly wrong). It's a bit better than tea leaves, but not a precise art.
Someone made the point that there could be another Scots indy ref in 2017, if there was a UK wide EU in/out referendum, which a Tory government supported to come out.
I think this is a possibility. According to the YES campaign they could easily obtain EU membership using article 48. In the event that it was mainly England that wanted to leave the EU, this might trigger Wales and Scotland to vote for independence to stay in the EU.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
I've thought from the start turnout would be something like 75% rather than some of the more spectacular predictions. I say this admittedly having not set foot in Scotland in years and there's a very good chance I'm completely wrong, but I suppose cynically I just wonder whether ANYTHING political (even something as significant as this) could ever engage 90%+ of the public in this day and age.
I think even in elections with compulsory turnout 90% isn't unusual, though I will stand corrected if someone has better info. To even get close to that is a phenomenal achievement.
New here so apologies for what is probably a stupid question. In a two horse race, huge unknowns, difference between the sides in polls within the margin of error, how can the odds be so wildly out? 6.4 on yes must be a worth a bet, possibly a huge one? What am I missing?
Nothing.
The Yes price is too big. If I were starting from scratch, I would have a small wager on Yes, because it is better value. Most of us here have however been betting on this event for a long while, years in some cases. We have built up positions over that period and are now, mostly, hedging and adjusting our positions.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
If Stuart Dickson really wants a yes vote then why the hell is he dicking around on political betting.com while the polls are still open?
Doesn't Stuart live in Sweden?
Surprised he's not trying to contribute to his life's work
It's important but not important enough to fly in from Sweden, that would require actual commitment, not internet commitment which is so much easier and more comfortable. Its a bit like all the Facebook campaigns that swirl around, it allows people to feel they have done something when in fact they have done feck all.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
Just to say thanks v much for your updates in this campaign - I've enjoyed reading them.
Nick Palmer I did vote verification for the Euros, and as you say the postal ballots have to be kept face down, even by the verifier. You may be able to get an idea of the result in a council ward if you are really good at picking out marks and symbols from a distance, but how on earth you can know the result for the whole of Scotland is beyond me!
The Chief Counting Officer expects the result between 6 am and 9 am
Not sure whether I go to bed now and get up at 5am or stay up to watch the first piffling results and then not dare to turn on the news in the morning.
Mr. Dickson, a better low odds bet might be a safety car to appear at Singapore at 1.2. Haven't backed it myself (I have a loathing of short odds) but it is probably value.
Finding it painful to look at a computer screen now (the brightness on my eyes, not pain at the likely outcome that is). Of all the bloody days, honestly. I may have to bow out soon (horrible, I know). Now having a tablet, I doubt I will be able to sleep though, being able to check in every now and then no doubt.
The Chief Counting Officer expects the result between 6 am and 9 am
Not sure whether I go to bed now and get up at 5am or stay up to watch the first piffling results and then not dare to turn on the news in the morning.
I think Stuart Dickson did let slip once that he has a property in Scotland. So, my guess is he has voted postally.
And talking of second home-owners, an acquaintance of mine took her teenage daughter out of school for the day, and they both drove 250 odd miles to vote in person.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
Very, very refreshing after FPTP.
FFS this poll IS FPTP squared
How on earth do you work that out??
First past the post plus one.
Its FPTP with only 2 candidates
Of course, sorry, quite so, up too early to vote (but not often), thanks. I was thinking of the way in which every vote counts - not like so many FPTP GEs.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
Just to say thanks v much for your updates in this campaign - I've enjoyed reading them.
I'll second that.The various political organisers from all parties have put in a huge effort and can take a lot of credit for the high turnout
Mr. kle4, my eyes go fuzzy sometimes with screen-staring. Hope it's not too bad. if it's painful, then you really should stop, and hopefully they'll be right tomorrow.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
That makes it all seem totally uncertain. Look forward to getting your post 10pm report. I have enjoyed your updates.
Do we have any idea who will make a victory / concession speech for BT? I assume Salmond will make one if it is Yes, but who will do it if it is No? Darling? Brown? Cameron?
I think Stuart Dickson did let slip once that he has a property in Scotland. So, my guess is he has voted postally.
And talking of second home-owners, an acquaintance of mine took her teenage daughter out of school for the day, and they both drove 250 odd miles to vote in person.
Doesn't it have to be your first home to get a vote?
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.
David if the Union holds guys like you have done a cracking job.
Do we have any idea who will make a victory / concession speech for BT? I assume Salmond will make one if it is Yes, but who will do it if it is No? Darling? Brown? Cameron?
Darling I would say if NO lose. Them all if they win !
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.
David if the Union holds guys like you have done a cracking job.
I think Stuart Dickson did let slip once that he has a property in Scotland. So, my guess is he has voted postally.
And talking of second home-owners, an acquaintance of mine took her teenage daughter out of school for the day, and they both drove 250 odd miles to vote in person.
Please be aware that if your acquaintance has just cast a vote based upon second-home ownership alone (ie. not normally resident in Scotland) then she has just broken the law.
Also be aware that the relevant officers are keeping a very close eye on known 2nd home property registrations.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
Very, very refreshing after FPTP.
FFS this poll IS FPTP squared
How on earth do you work that out??
First past the post plus one.
Its FPTP with only 2 candidates
Of course, sorry, quite so, up too early to vote (but not often), thanks. I was thinking of the way in which every vote counts - not like so many FPTP GEs.
Aberdonians just getting on with their day here, no real frenzy of any sort as I saw and heard it.
A Yes stand was out for a bit in the city centre, had the odd visitor but looked dead and they shut up shop sharp...
I dropped into the BT office. Those who weren't at the Poling Places were on the phones.
Saw an usual couple walking about with a Yes flag with a goth, kilt thing going on. They had chants of No following them - largely from school kids.
I think the biggest news in Aberdeen the last couple of days is that Bill Daniel the Union Street Piper died at the age of 41.
He was a fixture next to the statue of Edward VII and though his piping could sometimes be a little 'variable' he was a great local attraction.
RIP Bill.
I was in Aberdeen last week and only remarked to my sister that the piper by Edward VII (who had a traffic cone over his orb) was absolutely terrible. RIP.
I've just fallen in love with Alex Clare. And Fitz and the Tantrums.
I've spent most of the summer expanding my record collection. Just my own favourite tracks file stands at about 8Gb. Will look up Mr Frisell. Always up for a recommendation. I've got everything from Elizabethan lutes to Dolly Parton via Black Sabbath.
"Always listen to your favourite music" - I currently have Bill Frisell's "Intercontinentals" on the CD player. Awesome stuff. Few people can do music that appeals at once to head and heart, but Frisell is one of them.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.
David if the Union holds guys like you have done a cracking job.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.
David if the Union holds guys like you have done a cracking job.
Actually there are increasing indications that turnout may not prove to be quite as massive as once thought. There was incredie turnout first thing this morning but there are indications this has tailed off a bit. Outside a poling station now waiting for final figures and it is pretty much deserted.
Had a more difficult session of GOTV since I last posted where there was some slippage to yes and another where the don't knows had broken our way heavily. Basically good areas have got better and bad areas have got worse.
David - with just 40 minutes to go before the the polling booths close, what's your overall take in terms of the Yes/No balance against expectation and also as regards turnout?
I have been door knocking etc all day and have to emphasise that I do not have access to inside info only my own perceptions and some gossip. Anyone betting money on that does so at their own risk.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.
David if the Union holds guys like you have done a cracking job.
We all owe you.
Agreed.
Of course if the nats just had the honesty to wear white bedsheets with eye slits I'd be backing them.
Do we have any idea who will make a victory / concession speech for BT? I assume Salmond will make one if it is Yes, but who will do it if it is No? Darling? Brown? Cameron?
Darling I would say if NO lose. Them all if they win !
Theory: the first place to get a real intimation of the results will be the currency markets. The government will have to anticipate a run on the £, and the BoE will need to pre-empt this with interventions.
This is so much more important than a GE, and with such vaster implications, the governments in London and Holyrood will presumably have a hotline to all returning officers, YouGov etc.
So if we start seeing sudden eerie volatility in sterling/dollar markets, for instance, that means that YES are probably going to win.
Well, it's a theory. It may need work.
What first attracted me to this site all those years ago was the idea that people who invested their own money on the out-come of an election were probably more likely to be correct than the pundits in the media. If the idea was ever sound (and I have had some nice wins courtesy of gents that used to post here) I think it has long gone. PB is still a fun place to hang out though, but perhaps slightly more eccentric that it once was.
I think Stuart Dickson did let slip once that he has a property in Scotland. So, my guess is he has voted postally.
And talking of second home-owners, an acquaintance of mine took her teenage daughter out of school for the day, and they both drove 250 odd miles to vote in person.
Please be aware that if your acquaintance has just cast a vote based upon second-home ownership alone (ie. not normally resident in Scotland) then she has just broken the law.
Also be aware that the relevant officers are keeping a very close eye on known 2nd home property registrations.
I have never known law officers to prosecute for that.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
Very, very refreshing after FPTP.
FFS this poll IS FPTP squared
How on earth do you work that out??
First past the post plus one.
Its FPTP with only 2 candidates
Of course, sorry, quite so, up too early to vote (but not often), thanks. I was thinking of the way in which every vote counts - not like so many FPTP GEs.
I agree with that. In a race this huge and tight and tense, there are bound to be results which spook the market and send it all over the place. FFS the rumour of a rumour of a poll can shift Betfair substantially.
YES is bound to trade under 4.5 at some point in the night. Of course if YES wins it will at some point crossover.
Stornoway airport is closed due to fog, this will massively effect the vote count time
Saw something earlier about the possibility of Western Isles being the first to declare. Struck me that was logistically impossible, unless they were all postals.
So few people live there that they wont matter in terms of the outcome.
We never know (or at least not till sparrow f*rt tomorrow). And, more to the point, for once, everyone's vote counts and is equal.
Very, very refreshing after FPTP.
FFS this poll IS FPTP squared
How on earth do you work that out??
First past the post plus one.
Its FPTP with only 2 candidates
Of course, sorry, quite so, up too early to vote (but not often), thanks. I was thinking of the way in which every vote counts - not like so many FPTP GEs.
Theory: the first place to get a real intimation of the results will be the currency markets. The government will have to anticipate a run on the £, and the BoE will need to pre-empt this with interventions.
This is so much more important than a GE, and with such vaster implications, the governments in London and Holyrood will presumably have a hotline to all returning officers, YouGov etc.
So if we start seeing sudden eerie volatility in sterling/dollar markets, for instance, that means that YES are probably going to win.
Well, it's a theory. It may need work.
What first attracted me to this site all those years ago was the idea that people who invested their own money on the out-come of an election were probably more likely to be correct than the pundits in the media. If the idea was ever sound (and I have had some nice wins courtesy of gents that used to post here) I think it has long gone. PB is still a fun place to hang out though, but perhaps slightly more eccentric that it once was.
in this election there are too many people from outside the relevant judisdiction voting, I guess?
I remember asking my folks about the parties when I first became aware of such things.
They explained that the conservatives liked things the way they were. Life seemed pretty good to me so I backed the conservatives for that election. I was 9 and it was 1974.
In retrospect, things as they were was not great!
It is heresy in some circles to admit that life was ever crap before 1979.
Doing homework by candlelight during the three day week was rather fun as I recall.
Comments
Over 85% 4/7
80 - 85% 9/4
75 - 80% 5/1
Perhaps the high rollers have done all their business and retired for the night, or at least until the results start coming in.
I'm sure that's right. I guess if you, your kids and your kids' kids had all subsisted on estates for decades, seeing one Labour MP after another come and go with no change, you'd be ready to vote for anything.
Many have asked that question.
Who'd a thunk Neil Oliver would have such a sum!
Pretty much every poll has come in as NO.
If the helecopter can't fly, then the boxes will be taken by road tomorrow morning.
The second is that I hope all those that are queuing up at 10:00 are able to vote and we don't see a repeat of the 2010 general election fiasco.
If I were to call tonight, I think yes wins 52/48
good to see you can do some manual work outside the confines of your bathroom.
Are you calling it yes, no, maybe or civil war ?
Very, very refreshing after FPTP.
I think this is a possibility. According to the YES campaign they could easily obtain EU membership using article 48. In the event that it was mainly England that wanted to leave the EU, this might trigger Wales and Scotland to vote for independence to stay in the EU.
A Yes stand was out for a bit in the city centre, had the odd visitor but looked dead and they shut up shop sharp...
I dropped into the BT office. Those who weren't at the Poling Places were on the phones.
Saw an usual couple walking about with a Yes flag with a goth, kilt thing going on. They had chants of No following them - largely from school kids.
Nothing.
The Yes price is too big. If I were starting from scratch, I would have a small wager on Yes, because it is better value. Most of us here have however been betting on this event for a long while, years in some cases. We have built up positions over that period and are now, mostly, hedging and adjusting our positions.
http://www.economicsuk.com/blog/
If its Yes then sadly its all too late.
What price YES trades under 4.5?
Its FPTP with only 2 candidates
Clear signs of distress there!
Don't believe it myself, but 85% + looks about right.
He was a fixture next to the statue of Edward VII and though his piping could sometimes be a little 'variable' he was a great local attraction.
RIP Bill.
Eep
Everyone try to have ...fun?
And talking of second home-owners, an acquaintance of mine took her teenage daughter out of school for the day, and they both drove 250 odd miles to vote in person.
Having said that I think turnout will be higher than in a GE but 90%+ is ridiculous and will not happen unless Dundee is seriously atypical.
BT volunteers think they have won. Not by much but there is an air of confidence.
Labour think they have won Glasgow. The gap has definitely closed there but they are pretty confident it still exists.
Hard national figures seem non existent.
We all owe you.
Turnout in Glasgow is going to be huge. At least 87% of postal votes have been cast in the council area.
"Doesn't it have to be your first home to get a vote?"
No idea.
How many second homes are there in Scotland ?
Also be aware that the relevant officers are keeping a very close eye on known 2nd home property registrations.
RIP Bill.
I've spent most of the summer expanding my record collection. Just my own favourite tracks file stands at about 8Gb. Will look up Mr Frisell. Always up for a recommendation. I've got everything from Elizabethan lutes to Dolly Parton via Black Sabbath.
All I hear on this blog is people making shed loads of money...
I shall let you when and if my acquaintance is hauled off to jail.
I'll put you down as a NO :-)
Inspired by a mini-vacation in Royal Deeside Mr and Ms Briskin have gone for-
100 quid at evens (ish) at Yes 45 - 50
NO FOR THE WIN!!!!!!