Bet yesterday on Dominic Raab on Smarkets as next PM thinking he might be interim PM. Smarkets have made clear on their rules though that interim PM would not count (despite the claim no such thing exists).
However Raab has come in to 6.6-6.8 so I've laid off my stake and made a 420% return on my stake in 24 hours. Not bad. However if that is because others are thinking Raab will be interim, or because they're matching Betfair (where the rules indicate interim may pay out unlike Smarkets) then this could be a very good lay.
I don't see why Raab would be layable at 6.8 otherwise. Cashing out or laying Raab on Smarkets could be good value. Laying him on Smarkets and backing him on Betfair might even be potentially profitable.
Clarification 1 Feb 2022 11:00 The question of whether an individual would count as an interim or caretaker will, if possible, be resolved by the official government page linked to above e.g. if somebody takes over the responsibilities of a PM who has resigned and left the government, that person will count as the next PM if they are listed as such unless the listing describes them as temporary, interim or similar.
That's unambiguous, I think. There is absolutely no chance at all of the official government page describing the replacement as temporary or interim.
That’s a lot of power being invested in the government website admin guy.
Germany’s largest real estate group Vonovia wants to lower the heating temperature of the gas central heating at night to reduce gas consumption. The company announced on Thursday that the power would be reduced to a room temperature of 17 degrees between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m. the heating temperature should be changed as part of the routine maintenance of the heating systems before the start of the heating season.
Bumper jumper sales in Germany this autumn.
That still strikes me as pretty warm for a night time indoor temperature.
As has been said by others, Wallace will be the favourite... unless and until there is a real competition. And they have to persuade people of their merits
And there SHOULD be a competition. We don't want a coronation. This is the next Prime Minister
Wallace is lacklustre, he will struggle in a debate.
Yes. see the principle enunciated above: He has no chance of growing into the role. He is exactly as boring as he looks.
He is so obviously IDS 2.0
I can't believe the Tories are so dumb they will nominate him. He will soon have everyone yearning for Boris, which is exactly what they don't want. Plus he nullifies the advantage for them that is the Boringness of Starmer
Simplistic poppycock. You are just unhappy because you are a closet Bozo apologist. You like having a clown for a leader. The country would like someone who has cred at home and abroad. Wallace has this. Johnson never did. he was a joke. Any genuine patriot would see that.
lol
Ben Wallace has cred abroad? I doubt there are three people beyond the UK who know who he is. In fact I doubt there are three people IN the UK who know who he is, probably his wife sometimes forgets his name
I suspect most people "abroad" know very few of our politicians, except the Clown, for all the wrong reasons. He has made us a laughing stock in the same way Trump has done to the US. The slight difference is that Trump gets a slight grudging respect because he is a thug. Johnson is seen with incredulity outside the UK. How could a serious country with a great history make such an incompetent charlatan their most senior lawmaker? And you (much as I actually rather like you sweety) are one of his apologists in chief. Perhaps you like to have our country laughed at?
Bet yesterday on Dominic Raab on Smarkets as next PM thinking he might be interim PM. Smarkets have made clear on their rules though that interim PM would not count (despite the claim no such thing exists).
However Raab has come in to 6.6-6.8 so I've laid off my stake and made a 420% return on my stake in 24 hours. Not bad. However if that is because others are thinking Raab will be interim, or because they're matching Betfair (where the rules indicate interim may pay out unlike Smarkets) then this could be a very good lay.
I don't see why Raab would be layable at 6.8 otherwise. Cashing out or laying Raab on Smarkets could be good value. Laying him on Smarkets and backing him on Betfair might even be potentially profitable.
Clarification 1 Feb 2022 11:00 The question of whether an individual would count as an interim or caretaker will, if possible, be resolved by the official government page linked to above e.g. if somebody takes over the responsibilities of a PM who has resigned and left the government, that person will count as the next PM if they are listed as such unless the listing describes them as temporary, interim or similar.
That's unambiguous, I think. There is absolutely no chance at all of the official government page describing the replacement as temporary or interim.
That’s a lot of power being invested in the government website admin guy.
Actually, does anyone know who is the CISO of the relevant department? That’s really worth flagging to them, that potentially millions of pounds of bets hang on what they might publish.
For the record, I will be buying Boris Johnson's autobiography. I'm sure it will contain much that is self justifying rubbish, and that some parts will be simply untrue. But it will probably be enjoyable and lightweight, and - like it or not - he is part of history.
Boris' book will sell more than 5,000 copies. He's got a huge army of sycophants out there still.
How many of them buy and read political biographies?
I would probably buy a serious biography of Johnson once the dust has settled but an autobiography is going to be nothing but a series of self-serving lies. Does anyone seriously think Boris has kept detailed documentation of his period in office? He "forgot" he'd had a personal briefing on Pincher FFS.
As an historical record his book will be worse than useless.
As has been said by others, Wallace will be the favourite... unless and until there is a real competition. And they have to persuade people of their merits
And there SHOULD be a competition. We don't want a coronation. This is the next Prime Minister
Wallace is lacklustre, he will struggle in a debate.
Yes. see the principle enunciated above: He has no chance of growing into the role. He is exactly as boring as he looks.
He is so obviously IDS 2.0
I can't believe the Tories are so dumb they will nominate him. He will soon have everyone yearning for Boris, which is exactly what they don't want. Plus he nullifies the advantage for them that is the Boringness of Starmer
Simplistic poppycock. You are just unhappy because you are a closet Bozo apologist. You like having a clown for a leader. The country would like someone who has cred at home and abroad. Wallace has this. Johnson never did. he was a joke. Any genuine patriot would see that.
lol
Ben Wallace has cred abroad? I doubt there are three people beyond the UK who know who he is. In fact I doubt there are three people IN the UK who know who he is, probably his wife sometimes forgets his name
Wallace hasn't a prayer. Truss is the only game in town.
Perhaps there’ll be a ticket like the Clarke/Redwood alliance. A Remainer supported by Baker.
As has been said by others, Wallace will be the favourite... unless and until there is a real competition. And they have to persuade people of their merits
And there SHOULD be a competition. We don't want a coronation. This is the next Prime Minister
Wallace is lacklustre, he will struggle in a debate.
Yes. see the principle enunciated above: He has no chance of growing into the role. He is exactly as boring as he looks.
He is so obviously IDS 2.0
I can't believe the Tories are so dumb they will nominate him. He will soon have everyone yearning for Boris, which is exactly what they don't want. Plus he nullifies the advantage for them that is the Boringness of Starmer
Simplistic poppycock. You are just unhappy because you are a closet Bozo apologist. You like having a clown for a leader. The country would like someone who has cred at home and abroad. Wallace has this. Johnson never did. he was a joke. Any genuine patriot would see that.
lol
Ben Wallace has cred abroad? I doubt there are three people beyond the UK who know who he is. In fact I doubt there are three people IN the UK who know who he is, probably his wife sometimes forgets his name
It is possible Wallace might persuade Zelensky to name check him in any 'thank you Boris for your support' utterances given how involved he has been in support to Ukraine. It might assist his bid.
Sort of shameless thing the Clown would do, but I can't imagine an ex-army officer would want to do that. If it happens, fine, but I can't imagine him asking for it.
As has been said by others, Wallace will be the favourite... unless and until there is a real competition. And they have to persuade people of their merits
And there SHOULD be a competition. We don't want a coronation. This is the next Prime Minister
Wallace is lacklustre, he will struggle in a debate.
Yes. see the principle enunciated above: He has no chance of growing into the role. He is exactly as boring as he looks.
He is so obviously IDS 2.0
I can't believe the Tories are so dumb they will nominate him. He will soon have everyone yearning for Boris, which is exactly what they don't want. Plus he nullifies the advantage for them that is the Boringness of Starmer
Simplistic poppycock. You are just unhappy because you are a closet Bozo apologist. You like having a clown for a leader. The country would like someone who has cred at home and abroad. Wallace has this. Johnson never did. he was a joke. Any genuine patriot would see that.
lol
Ben Wallace has cred abroad? I doubt there are three people beyond the UK who know who he is. In fact I doubt there are three people IN the UK who know who he is, probably his wife sometimes forgets his name
Wallace hasn't a prayer. Truss is the only game in town.
Perhaps there’ll be a ticket like the Clarke/Redwood alliance. A Remainer supported by Baker.
Bet yesterday on Dominic Raab on Smarkets as next PM thinking he might be interim PM. Smarkets have made clear on their rules though that interim PM would not count (despite the claim no such thing exists).
However Raab has come in to 6.6-6.8 so I've laid off my stake and made a 420% return on my stake in 24 hours. Not bad. However if that is because others are thinking Raab will be interim, or because they're matching Betfair (where the rules indicate interim may pay out unlike Smarkets) then this could be a very good lay.
I don't see why Raab would be layable at 6.8 otherwise. Cashing out or laying Raab on Smarkets could be good value. Laying him on Smarkets and backing him on Betfair might even be potentially profitable.
How do they define 'interim PM' ?
A Prime Minister who isn’t leader of the Conservative Party.
They could only pay out on an individual who is BOTH Conservative Party Leader AND Prime Minister.
As has been said by others, Wallace will be the favourite... unless and until there is a real competition. And they have to persuade people of their merits
And there SHOULD be a competition. We don't want a coronation. This is the next Prime Minister
Wallace is lacklustre, he will struggle in a debate.
Yes. see the principle enunciated above: He has no chance of growing into the role. He is exactly as boring as he looks.
He is so obviously IDS 2.0
I can't believe the Tories are so dumb they will nominate him. He will soon have everyone yearning for Boris, which is exactly what they don't want. Plus he nullifies the advantage for them that is the Boringness of Starmer
Simplistic poppycock. You are just unhappy because you are a closet Bozo apologist. You like having a clown for a leader. The country would like someone who has cred at home and abroad. Wallace has this. Johnson never did. he was a joke. Any genuine patriot would see that.
lol
Ben Wallace has cred abroad? I doubt there are three people beyond the UK who know who he is. In fact I doubt there are three people IN the UK who know who he is, probably his wife sometimes forgets his name
Wallace hasn't a prayer. Truss is the only game in town.
Germany’s largest real estate group Vonovia wants to lower the heating temperature of the gas central heating at night to reduce gas consumption. The company announced on Thursday that the power would be reduced to a room temperature of 17 degrees between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m. the heating temperature should be changed as part of the routine maintenance of the heating systems before the start of the heating season.
Bumper jumper sales in Germany this autumn.
Vonovia stock ticked up 1% in the US in a generally down market.
The precedent? Gordon Brown. Realised he was a barrier and voluntarily resigned as party leader. But expected he would continue as PM. As that quickly became not just untenable but laughable he had to make another statement that he was going. Before it went dark.
That's not a valid precedent because when Brown left it was clear who would take over.
Do you really image the theatre of someone going to the palace to be asked to form a caretaker government?
The Deputy Prime Minister. Or if he recuses himself because he wants the job permanently, then we are back to the men in grey suits making a recommendation to the monarch. As they always used to do.
I'm still waiting for an example of when what "they always used to do" happened.
Boris' book will sell more than 5,000 copies. He's got a huge army of sycophants out there still.
How many of them buy and read political biographies?
I would probably buy a serious biography of Johnson once the dust has settled but an autobiography is going to be nothing but a series of self-serving lies. Does anyone seriously think Boris has kept detailed documentation of his period in office? He "forgot" he'd had a personal briefing on Pincher FFS.
As an historical record his book will be worse than useless.
The purposes of such books is not for the historical record it is for a personal record.
It will sell more than 5000 - journalists and politicos along will get it above that. The idea no one will be interested at all is just plain silliness because we dislike him and he is on the way out.
Bet yesterday on Dominic Raab on Smarkets as next PM thinking he might be interim PM. Smarkets have made clear on their rules though that interim PM would not count (despite the claim no such thing exists).
However Raab has come in to 6.6-6.8 so I've laid off my stake and made a 420% return on my stake in 24 hours. Not bad. However if that is because others are thinking Raab will be interim, or because they're matching Betfair (where the rules indicate interim may pay out unlike Smarkets) then this could be a very good lay.
I don't see why Raab would be layable at 6.8 otherwise. Cashing out or laying Raab on Smarkets could be good value. Laying him on Smarkets and backing him on Betfair might even be potentially profitable.
Clarification 1 Feb 2022 11:00 The question of whether an individual would count as an interim or caretaker will, if possible, be resolved by the official government page linked to above e.g. if somebody takes over the responsibilities of a PM who has resigned and left the government, that person will count as the next PM if they are listed as such unless the listing describes them as temporary, interim or similar.
That's unambiguous, I think. There is absolutely no chance at all of the official government page describing the replacement as temporary or interim.
That’s a lot of power being invested in the government website admin guy.
Actually, does anyone know who is the CISO of the relevant department? That’s really worth flagging to them, that potentially millions of pounds of bets hang on what they might publish.
Off topic, but @Sandpit, given our conversation last week, you may be interested to know that a colleague of mine is moving to Dubai - when I asked him what the main push/pull factors were, the number one thing in his list was schools.
Oh god a message to the people of Ukraine. Oh wait he's now talking about investment in infrastructure in the UK. Are the Ukrainians interested in his levelling up programme?
Don't know whether it will matter, but I'm fairly certain there's a majority in Parliament who are unhappy with that. Lots of Tory MPs have been saying it's not acceptable.
Bet yesterday on Dominic Raab on Smarkets as next PM thinking he might be interim PM. Smarkets have made clear on their rules though that interim PM would not count (despite the claim no such thing exists).
However Raab has come in to 6.6-6.8 so I've laid off my stake and made a 420% return on my stake in 24 hours. Not bad. However if that is because others are thinking Raab will be interim, or because they're matching Betfair (where the rules indicate interim may pay out unlike Smarkets) then this could be a very good lay.
I don't see why Raab would be layable at 6.8 otherwise. Cashing out or laying Raab on Smarkets could be good value. Laying him on Smarkets and backing him on Betfair might even be potentially profitable.
Clarification 1 Feb 2022 11:00 The question of whether an individual would count as an interim or caretaker will, if possible, be resolved by the official government page linked to above e.g. if somebody takes over the responsibilities of a PM who has resigned and left the government, that person will count as the next PM if they are listed as such unless the listing describes them as temporary, interim or similar.
That's unambiguous, I think. There is absolutely no chance at all of the official government page describing the replacement as temporary or interim.
That’s a lot of power being invested in the government website admin guy.
Actually, does anyone know who is the CISO of the relevant department? That’s really worth flagging to them, that potentially millions of pounds of bets hang on what they might publish.
Off topic, but @Sandpit, given our conversation last week, you may be interested to know that a colleague of mine is moving to Dubai - when I asked him what the main push/pull factors were, the number one thing in his list was schools.
Feel free to PM me his details if he wishes. Always happy to help welcome new expats. It’s a nice community out here.
Bet yesterday on Dominic Raab on Smarkets as next PM thinking he might be interim PM. Smarkets have made clear on their rules though that interim PM would not count (despite the claim no such thing exists).
However Raab has come in to 6.6-6.8 so I've laid off my stake and made a 420% return on my stake in 24 hours. Not bad. However if that is because others are thinking Raab will be interim, or because they're matching Betfair (where the rules indicate interim may pay out unlike Smarkets) then this could be a very good lay.
I don't see why Raab would be layable at 6.8 otherwise. Cashing out or laying Raab on Smarkets could be good value. Laying him on Smarkets and backing him on Betfair might even be potentially profitable.
Clarification 1 Feb 2022 11:00 The question of whether an individual would count as an interim or caretaker will, if possible, be resolved by the official government page linked to above e.g. if somebody takes over the responsibilities of a PM who has resigned and left the government, that person will count as the next PM if they are listed as such unless the listing describes them as temporary, interim or similar.
That's unambiguous, I think. There is absolutely no chance at all of the official government page describing the replacement as temporary or interim.
That’s a lot of power being invested in the government website admin guy.
Actually, does anyone know who is the CISO of the relevant department? That’s really worth flagging to them, that potentially millions of pounds of bets hang on what they might publish.
Off topic, but @Sandpit, given our conversation last week, you may be interested to know that a colleague of mine is moving to Dubai - when I asked him what the main push/pull factors were, the number one thing in his list was schools.
Have relatives at and can very much recommend Dubai British School.
Timetable announced next week, wants to be leader until election completed.
Both too slow by far.
They aren't going to determine the timetable until the new 1922 executive is in place, which is in any case parliament's next sitting day IIRC. They'll announce it Monday or Tuesday, I expect. Nominations could close by the end of next week and they could be down to two by the end of the following week.
Quite a good resignation speech; no Trumpian tendencies, no constitutional crisis. But Boris has always been fine with speeches, a few good turns of phrase, a dose of boosterism.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJIv3yzC430
They have 3 models:
- Polls only model has the Democrats as FAVOURITES to win - 60% chance Dem control, 40% chance Rep control
- Classic model (Polls model + fundraising/past voting) also has Dems as favourites - 58% chance Dem control
- Deluxe model (Classic model + expert ratings) has 47% chance Dem control
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/?cid=rrpromo
I would probably buy a serious biography of Johnson once the dust has settled but an autobiography is going to be nothing but a series of self-serving lies. Does anyone seriously think Boris has kept detailed documentation of his period in office? He "forgot" he'd had a personal briefing on Pincher FFS.
As an historical record his book will be worse than useless.
It will sell more than 5000 - journalists and politicos along will get it above that. The idea no one will be interested at all is just plain silliness because we dislike him and he is on the way out.
Both too slow by far.
Populist and incapable of understanding the British system to the bitter end.
VONC now.
"What a week to hold this lecture," she starts. "But for the avoidance of doubt this is the speech I would have delivered regardless."
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1545002080112414720
Lots of Tory MPs have been saying it's not acceptable.
For two people anyway.
https://twitter.com/vinod_d007/status/1544956802126647296?s=20&t=R21KM3D3YMJrZCDH_vp-XQ
@benrileysmith
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EXCLUSIVE
1922 chairman Sir Graham Brady did NOT agree that Boris Johnson can remain PM until October when they talked this morning
He only agreed a new leader would be in place *by* Oct party conference - an important distinction. Ie PM could go sooner
Not the most important thing that's slipped his mind recently.
So an improvement.
7 June to 23 July
So it can be done quite quickly.
(a) Dems lead in Senate polls in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania
and
(b) Evan McMullin has a decent outside shot in Utah
I would be a seller of Republican majority on Betfair, because that requires them to get 51 seats. Right now, the polls show them getting 49.
Now, the enthusiasm gap is definitely on the Republicans side (albeit Roe v Wade has spiced things up), but still... those are amazing odds.
Lol
As PM boris had considerable influence too, much god it did him
Most probably unfortunately we are heading for up to a decade in opposition
It was self-pitying waffle devoid even of joie de vivre.
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https://twitter.com/hoffman_noa/status/1545009832205467651