The Tories look set to lose both June 23rd by-elections – politicalbetting.com
The Tories look set to lose both June 23rd by-elections – politicalbetting.com
At least one PBer, surely, will know when the last time that the Tory party lost two Westminster by elections on the same day.
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In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.3
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A red letter day?TheScreamingEagles said:7th of November 1991.
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A jury in the US has shown it has far better judgement than a UK judge. Depp should appeal against the UK judgement which was based on nothing more than Heard batting her eyelashes at the judge.6
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Value is Con Tiverton Lab Wakefield double.
That 80% is ludicrous. That doesn't tally with @MarqueeMark's reports.1 -
I kind of admire their persistence, but their alternative suggestions are pretty cumbersome to say the least
France's language watchdog has told government officials to use French gaming terms instead of English ones.
The Académie Française says "jeu video de competition" should replace "e-sports", and "streamer" should become "joueur-animateur en direct".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-616471921 -
What happened next?TheScreamingEagles said:In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.
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French for streamer just rolls off the tongue. Why use 1 word, when you can use 4.kle4 said:I kind of admire their persistence, but their alternative suggestions are pretty cumbersome to say the least
France's language watchdog has told government officials to use French gaming terms instead of English ones.
The Académie Française says "jeu video de competition" should replace "e-sports", and "streamer" should become "joueur-animateur en direct".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-616471921 -
What happens if there's a VONC next week and Johnson loses?
Could there be a sufficient "Ding Dong Big Dog is dead" bounce to get the blue team over the line?1 -
I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD and no local knowledge at all about Devon. That said, the >75% implied probability of a Lib Dem win seems strikingly high.0
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This new thread header is at serious risk of derailing the conversations about international supermarket cheese provision.8
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This year's Eurovision was the first without any French-language songs. The French entry was actually sung in Breton.kle4 said:I kind of admire their persistence, but their alternative suggestions are pretty cumbersome to say the least
France's language watchdog has told government officials to use French gaming terms instead of English ones.
The Académie Française says "jeu video de competition" should replace "e-sports", and "streamer" should become "joueur-animateur en direct".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-616471924 -
Evening all, been celebrating and working (and both) since Wembley on Sunday
Is the threshold close? If it happens and Johnson wins, is that him effectively safe until the election?2 -
Also. No word in English could be pronounced in a more stereotypically French way than streamer.FrancisUrquhart said:
French for streamer just rolls off the tongue. Why use 1 word, when you can use 4.kle4 said:I kind of admire their persistence, but their alternative suggestions are pretty cumbersome to say the least
France's language watchdog has told government officials to use French gaming terms instead of English ones.
The Académie Française says "jeu video de competition" should replace "e-sports", and "streamer" should become "joueur-animateur en direct".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-616471922 -
Thatcher's 1987 majority was reduced to just 21 under Major.IshmaelZ said:
What happened next?TheScreamingEagles said:In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.
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Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
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Am I the only one who doesn't give a monkey's about Depp v Heard?6 -
Yes.Stuartinromford said:What happens if there's a VONC next week and Johnson loses?
Could there be a sufficient "Ding Dong Big Dog is dead" bounce to get the blue team over the line?2 -
Clearly not to a great extent in national polling, but in some of the bizarre events called by-elections, yes. Now is this more North Shropshire or is it more like Old Bexley and Sidcup. Clearly more like N Shropshire with none of the class & ethnic anxiety of that part of the London periphery. So clearly it is an event that could happen. But what distinguishes a 20% probability from a 45% probability of a Tory win is hard for me to understand.IshmaelZ said:
Boris doesEPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD and no local knowledge at all about Devon. That said, the >75% implied probability of a Lib Dem win seems strikingly high.
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Yep, all those French kids will be saying “jeu video de competition” rather than “e-sports”kle4 said:I kind of admire their persistence, but their alternative suggestions are pretty cumbersome to say the least
France's language watchdog has told government officials to use French gaming terms instead of English ones.
The Académie Française says "jeu video de competition" should replace "e-sports", and "streamer" should become "joueur-animateur en direct".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61647192
It’s a bit like a posh great great grandmother trying to get you to say “looking glass” rather than “mirror”, except there isn’t even a poshness value, plus the whole thing is even more embarrassing
Any French teen will simply CRINGE
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Depp was laughably unprepared for the UK trial. He just assumed that if he said it wasn't true, then he'd be believed. He then got all antsy when he was asked some tricky questions, and looked as slippery as an eel.MaxPB said:A jury in the US has shown it has far better judgement than a UK judge. Depp should appeal against the UK judgement which was based on nothing more than Heard batting her eyelashes at the judge.
If he'd had the good sense to prepare properly for the UK trial, I doubt he'd have lost it.1 -
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Priti Patel tells Tory plotters who remember she was sacked from the cabinet for having secret meetings with ministers and spies from a foreign country and then brought back to the cabinet and then broke the ministerial code by bullying staff to “forget it”
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Sensible Tories would take a repeat of thatSunil_Prasannan said:
Thatcher's 1987 majority was reduced to just 21 under Major.IshmaelZ said:
What happened next?TheScreamingEagles said:In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.
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The National Space Centre is well worth a visit.kle4 said:
It was a great fit for me in that respect.Leon said:
The biggest UK city I haven’t visited is probably Leicester. I’ve no great desire to amend this. Everything about it screams: BORING. Sorry Foxy
But hey, at least now it has a royal tomb to visit.
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Or she should appeal against the US verdict which was based on nothing more than deference to star power with a dash of misogyny throw in.MaxPB said:A jury in the US has shown it has far better judgement than a UK judge. Depp should appeal against the UK judgement which was based on nothing more than Heard batting her eyelashes at the judge.
You pays your money you takes your choice.0 -
You are right. I bet on Cons in both, and still confident Tivi is a winner. marq is one of PBs straight guys. I am calling Wakefield for Labour by 2.01168 kilometres to wind the Boris fans up. I’ve cached out that bet.dixiedean said:Value is Con Tiverton Lab Wakefield double.
That 80% is ludicrous. That doesn't tally with @MarqueeMark's reports.0 -
I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)1 -
So... the answer is "yes". With that said, they won in North Shropshire, where they started in third and more than fifty percentage points behind. *And* the cost of living crisis and Partygate have only gotten worse since December.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD and no local knowledge at all about Devon. That said, the >75% implied probability of a Lib Dem win seems strikingly high.
And they won North Shropshire at a canter: 47% vs 32%.
So, it's hard to make the LDs anything other than favourites.4 -
Although not what happened next...IshmaelZ said:
Sensible Tories would take a repeat of thatSunil_Prasannan said:
Thatcher's 1987 majority was reduced to just 21 under Major.IshmaelZ said:
What happened next?TheScreamingEagles said:In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.
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On current polls Labour would gain Wakefield but the Tories would still hold Tiverton and Honiton.
Yes there is the LD by election but the Tories have picked a better candidate than in Chesham and Amersham or North Shropshire, a well known local lady0 -
Before my in-laws became my in-laws they visited us in England and brought a 4kg block of Dubliner cheese from their local supermarket with them. No-one has every brought me such a well-judged gift.mwadams said:This new thread header is at serious risk of derailing the conversations about international supermarket cheese provision.
It was actually in a Dunnes supermarket in Galway, in the very early days of the pandemic (late February 2020) that I discovered there was a seasonal variation in cheese. As they were selling a mature cheddar cheese that was labelled as being made from autumn milk, which apparently has a different nature to spring milk, and so produces a different cheese. This cheese was made from milk from the co-operative that my uncle-in-law sells his milk to.3 -
Yes. He's partisan. But self-aware that he is partisan.MoonRabbit said:
You are right. I bet on Cons in both, and still confident Tivi is a winner. marq is one of PBs straight guys. I am calling Wakefield for Labour by 2.01168 kilometres to wind the Boris fans up. I’ve cached out that bet.dixiedean said:Value is Con Tiverton Lab Wakefield double.
That 80% is ludicrous. That doesn't tally with @MarqueeMark's reports.
Not at all certain it's a Tory hold. But it's a damn sight better than a one in five chance.1 -
Yes, to those of us whose instinct is to be sceptical of state intervention, it's not instinctively obvious that the Conservative Party is more in line with our thinking than the Lib Dems. Especially given the two parties' records on covid.MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
But even the current Tory Party is probably still less keen on state intervention than Labour.0 -
I brought my sons up from the beginning to say toilet when they meant lavatory because of the pain I knew it would inflict on my father.Leon said:
Yep, all those French kids will be saying “jeu video de competition” rather than “e-sports”kle4 said:I kind of admire their persistence, but their alternative suggestions are pretty cumbersome to say the least
France's language watchdog has told government officials to use French gaming terms instead of English ones.
The Académie Française says "jeu video de competition" should replace "e-sports", and "streamer" should become "joueur-animateur en direct".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61647192
It’s a bit like a posh great great grandmother trying to get you to say “looking glass” rather than “mirror”, except there isn’t even a poshness value, plus the whole thing is even more embarrassing
Any French teen will simply CRINGE5 -
Amber Heard is claiming her right to free speech has been infringed.rcs1000 said:
Depp was laughably unprepared for the UK trial. He just assumed that if he said it wasn't true, then he'd be believed. He then got all antsy when he was asked some tricky questions, and looked as slippery as an eel.MaxPB said:A jury in the US has shown it has far better judgement than a UK judge. Depp should appeal against the UK judgement which was based on nothing more than Heard batting her eyelashes at the judge.
If he'd had the good sense to prepare properly for the UK trial, I doubt he'd have lost it.
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Not next next, nodixiedean said:
Although not what happened next...IshmaelZ said:
Sensible Tories would take a repeat of thatSunil_Prasannan said:
Thatcher's 1987 majority was reduced to just 21 under Major.IshmaelZ said:
What happened next?TheScreamingEagles said:In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.
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General Election 2024: Jermey Hunt Vs Keith Starmer - Dull And Duller!0
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How did they get your email address?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)0 -
Leicesters motto is "Semper Eadem" translated often as "always the same"*. Mine is a city proud of being boring, but the fact is that it isnt really. It is a dynamic, and gritty multicultural city. You don't really need to travel the world anymore. In Leicester the world comes to you. Its not for everyone, but I love my adopted city.kle4 said:
It was a great fit for me in that respect.Leon said:
The biggest UK city I haven’t visited is probably Leicester. I’ve no great desire to amend this. Everything about it screams: BORING. Sorry Foxy
But hey, at least now it has a royal tomb to visit.
*"always constant", with the implication of reliable, is probably a better translation.1 -
Who is apparently unwilling to answer questions.HYUFD said:On current polls Labour would gain Wakefield but the Tories would still hold Tiverton and Honiton.
Yes there is the LD by election but the Tories have picked a better candidate than in Chesham and Amersham or North Shropshire, a well known local lady
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A mixed sex jury vs an old white man judge. Plus she got found to be lying a lot when questioned by Depp's team so her claims of being abused were very untrustworthy.kinabalu said:
Or she should appeal against the US verdict which was based on nothing more than deference to star power with a dash of misogyny throw in.MaxPB said:A jury in the US has shown it has far better judgement than a UK judge. Depp should appeal against the UK judgement which was based on nothing more than Heard batting her eyelashes at the judge.
You pays your money you takes your choice.1 -
"Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again"MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
What on earth are you talking about?0 -
Can Ed Davey come through the middle? ☀️👍GIN1138 said:General Election 2024: Jermey Hunt Vs Keith Starmer - Dull And Duller!
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Owen who?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)0 -
Likewise morning and evening milk.LostPassword said:
Before my in-laws became my in-laws they visited us in England and brought a 4kg block of Dubliner cheese from their local supermarket with them. No-one has every brought me such a well-judged gift.mwadams said:This new thread header is at serious risk of derailing the conversations about international supermarket cheese provision.
It was actually in a Dunnes supermarket in Galway, in the very early days of the pandemic (late February 2020) that I discovered there was a seasonal variation in cheese. As they were selling a mature cheddar cheese that was labelled as being made from autumn milk, which apparently has a different nature to spring milk, and so produces a different cheese. This cheese was made from milk from the co-operative that my uncle-in-law sells his milk to.1 -
Not sure I told you, but I really like your teethGIN1138 said:General Election 2024: Jermey Hunt Vs Keith Starmer - Dull And Duller!
That hairy coat of yours with nothing underneath
Not sure you have a name, so I will call you Keith1 -
I am not exactly the type to take advantage of what a place has to offer in fairness. You take the boring with you when you travel. I feel like Leon could find some charms there.Foxy said:
Leicesters motto is "Semper Eadem" translated often as "always the same"*. Mine is a city proud of being boring, but the fact is that it isnt really. It is a dynamic, and gritty multicultural city. You don't really need to travel the world anymore. In Leicester the world comes to you. Its not for everyone, but I love my adopted city.kle4 said:
It was a great fit for me in that respect.Leon said:
The biggest UK city I haven’t visited is probably Leicester. I’ve no great desire to amend this. Everything about it screams: BORING. Sorry Foxy
But hey, at least now it has a royal tomb to visit.
*"always constant", with the implication of reliable, is probably a better translation.0 -
There’s a decent chunk of roman wall in Leicester, with a good 11th century church next to it. Some fool in the 50s stuck a ring road through, though, so there are no parishoners any more.
There is, however, a museum with the fattest man in England’s chair in it:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Lambert
Also, the national gas museum. Unrelated.0 -
Pater not father, surely?IshmaelZ said:
I brought my sons up from the beginning to say toilet when they meant lavatory because of the pain I knew it would inflict on my father.Leon said:
Yep, all those French kids will be saying “jeu video de competition” rather than “e-sports”kle4 said:I kind of admire their persistence, but their alternative suggestions are pretty cumbersome to say the least
France's language watchdog has told government officials to use French gaming terms instead of English ones.
The Académie Française says "jeu video de competition" should replace "e-sports", and "streamer" should become "joueur-animateur en direct".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61647192
It’s a bit like a posh great great grandmother trying to get you to say “looking glass” rather than “mirror”, except there isn’t even a poshness value, plus the whole thing is even more embarrassing
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My impression is that the LDs are keen for Thaler/Cameron-style micro-interventions that eventually add up to deadweight, while being about as bad on Nimby and macroeconomics as Sunak. But their wrongdoing in office seemed more self-destructive and less about grasping, divisive control than the current lot - which in turn seems better than under the Cummings ministry. That counts for something.Cookie said:
Yes, to those of us whose instinct is to be sceptical of state intervention, it's not instinctively obvious that the Conservative Party is more in line with our thinking than the Lib Dems. Especially given the two parties' records on covid.MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
But even the current Tory Party is probably still less keen on state intervention than Labour.0 -
I don't think Labour are very good at tidying up their contacts. I left the party 18 years ago, but still get occasional contact from them.rottenborough said:
How did they get your email address?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)0 -
Possession of opium, cocaine and methamphetamine to be decriminalised in British Columbia from Jan 2023.
Gosh. Not the Social Credit government I remember.
Nowt wrong with playing up to stereotypes, mind.1 -
He could. But no one would notice in the glare of charisma.londonpubman said:
Can Ed Davey come through the middle? ☀️👍GIN1138 said:General Election 2024: Jermey Hunt Vs Keith Starmer - Dull And Duller!
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I agree. I think Jeremy Hunt would win that particular match-up fairly easily, (although I wouldn't vote for either of their parties).pigeon said:
However, after everything that's happened in recent years, a lengthy period of grey managerialism and instantly forgettable leadership might prove very welcome.GIN1138 said:General Election 2024: Jermey Hunt Vs Keith Starmer - Dull And Duller!
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I get regular e-mails from them.Foxy said:
I don't think Labour are very good at tidying up their contacts. I left the party 18 years ago, but still get occasional contact from them.rottenborough said:
How did they get your email address?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)
I have never once been a member or registered supporter.0 -
After some months in London, Lambert was visited by Józef Boruwłaski, a 3-foot-3-inch (99 cm) dwarf then in his seventies.[44] Born in 1739 to a poor family in rural Pokuttya,[45] Boruwłaski was generally considered to be the last of Europe's court dwarfs...Boruwłaski lived to see his 98th year, despite the prediction of the money-lender who sold him his annuity that his small stature would make him prone to illness.[49]carnforth said:
There’s a decent chunk of roman wall in Leicester, with a good 11th century church next to it. Some fool in the 50s stuck a ring road through, though, so there are no parishoners any more.Cookie said:
I had a girlfriend from Leicester. It's not that boring. But I'd struggle to praise it much higher.Cookie said:
I should go to NI, yes.Leon said:
You should go to NI. Belfast has a superbly dramatic setting, possibly the most theatrical of any big city in the UK. The people are great fun - mixture of Geordies and DublinersCookie said:
Norwich for me.dixiedean said:
Sheffield and Edinburgh for me.tlg86 said:@dixiedean - you’ve never been to Dorset? I reckon the biggest town/city in Britain that I’ve never been to is Bristol (I’ve stood on Temple Meads station during a locomotive change, but that doesn’t count).
I've been to Scotland for one night. Hogmanay in Glasgow. Few days after Lockerbie.
I've been to every English county. Never been to South West Wales - that's my biggest gap.
Actually, never been to NI at all. So if we're including NI, Belfast.
Great pubs, great craic, and the food is much improved
Luscious countryside, albeit wet
The biggest UK city I haven’t visited is probably Leicester. I’ve no great desire to amend this. Everything about it screams: BORING. Sorry @Foxy
I was talking to a school-parent who is off to NI for half term. It sounds brilliant, not least how they are getting there: the overnight ferry from Liverpool. Imagine: you set off from your house and are at your port in 45 minutes. For a northwesterner, this is at the very least tremendous novelty. And then sleep on the ferry and by morning you are in holiday! Sounds perfect.
In my head it is RATAE, the walled city, the York of the Midlands. But I should be very clear the version of Leicester which exists in my head on the shaky basis of a few decent real ale pubs DOES NOT exist in real life.
There is, however, a museum with the fattest man in England’s chair in it:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Lambert
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I campaigned in that Kincardine & Deeside by-election. Bumped into Donald Dewar and his team knocking doors: their vote dropped 8 points. Our candidate was the lovely Allan Macartney, who went on to be an MEP.TheScreamingEagles said:In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.
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The i newspaper is saying the dissent about Boris is spreading to cabinet ministers
Who is going to be the first to break ranks?
Betting opportunities?0 -
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Simon Lightwood introduced by Owen Smith. Have I been had?GIN1138 said:
Owen who?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)
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Sunak should resign and try and seize the crown.Big_G_NorthWales said:The i newspaper is saying the dissent about Boris is spreading to cabinet ministers
Who is going to be the first to break ranks?
Betting opportunities?
What has he got to lose now?
Of course, no one will do anything now until late on Sunday as it is Rex jubilee.
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Oh no she doesn't!williamglenn said:Arlene Foster becomes a Dame.
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Scottish Labour are notorious for having grossly inaccurate voter data. Even seen them targeting the SNP candidate, her agent, the signatories on her nomination papers and the local SNP office-bearers. They really are a bit thick.dixiedean said:
I get regular e-mails from them.Foxy said:
I don't think Labour are very good at tidying up their contacts. I left the party 18 years ago, but still get occasional contact from them.rottenborough said:
How did they get your email address?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)
I have never once been a member or registered supporter.0 -
And Sheryl Sandberg is leaving Facebook. At one point people thought she would ultimately run for political office so maybe that's on the cards now, although her image has been tarnished by Facebook's problems.
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It would have to be someone who thinks they have a chance to retaining their position (or even improving it). But a truly big name probably wouldn't dare as it would appear disloyal, and counterintuitively hinder their chances at one day getting the top job, so someone of middling position at best.Big_G_NorthWales said:The i newspaper is saying the dissent about Boris is spreading to cabinet ministers
Who is going to be the first to break ranks?
Betting opportunities?
So I'd say someone in the range of Kwarteng, Coffey, Zahawi or one of the Secs of State for Wales/Scotland/NI, though I don't know that any are actually even considered likely rebels.0 -
Nick Clegg moves one step closer to the throne...williamglenn said:And Sheryl Sandberg is leaving Facebook. At one point people thought she would ultimately run for political office so maybe that's on the cards now, although her image has been tarnished by Facebook's problems.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61666340
(For the avoidance of doubt, that was not a serious comment.)0 -
About 5 months too late to do that.rottenborough said:
Sunak should resign and try and seize the crown.Big_G_NorthWales said:The i newspaper is saying the dissent about Boris is spreading to cabinet ministers
Who is going to be the first to break ranks?
Betting opportunities?
What has he got to lose now?
Of course, no one will do anything now until late on Sunday as it is Rex jubilee.3 -
I'm not sure. Could be from anywhere I suppose. It was definitely authentic and it was only £13rottenborough said:
How did they get your email address?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)0 -
Although. Having never been a member, but a voter, it could be argued that's super efficient targeting of me!StuartDickson said:
Scottish Labour are notorious for having grossly inaccurate voter data. Even seen them targeting the SNP candidate, her agent, the signatories on her nomination papers and the local SNP office-bearers. They really are a bit thick.dixiedean said:
I get regular e-mails from them.Foxy said:
I don't think Labour are very good at tidying up their contacts. I left the party 18 years ago, but still get occasional contact from them.rottenborough said:
How did they get your email address?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)
I have never once been a member or registered supporter.0 -
She was dating the CEO of Activision, so between them they'll have a couple of billion to enjoy.williamglenn said:And Sheryl Sandberg is leaving Facebook. At one point people thought she would ultimately run for political office so maybe that's on the cards now, although her image has been tarnished by Facebook's problems.
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House of Lords = House of Unelected Has-Beens!williamglenn said:Arlene Foster becomes a Dame.
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Nodixiedean said:First story on World Tonight.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a monkey's about Depp v Heard?3 -
The odds on the LDs look too short to me but you have to grant that they've done the difficult and most important bit of their campaign - they have established themselves as the challenge to the Conservatives, despite finishing behind Labour at the previous GE.
They've already cast this as a two-horse race in which they are one of the two.
They should win or go very close.0 -
You ask a good question! I'm looking forward to the answerBenpointer said:
"Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again"MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
What on earth are you talking about?0 -
Mike Smithson probably gave it to them.Roger said:
I'm not sure. Could be from anywhere I suppose. It was definitely authentic and it was only £13rottenborough said:
How did they get your email address?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)
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Unless Hunt won back the redwall despite Boris going then he can hold every seat in Surrey but Starmer still becomes PM.Andy_JS said:
I agree. I think Jeremy Hunt would win that particular match-up fairly easily, (although I wouldn't vote for either of their parties).pigeon said:
However, after everything that's happened in recent years, a lengthy period of grey managerialism and instantly forgettable leadership might prove very welcome.GIN1138 said:General Election 2024: Jermey Hunt Vs Keith Starmer - Dull And Duller!
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They have just walked into the market, pointed at someone just back in profit and moderate profit compared to some, screamed “your profit is not deserved!” And windfall taxed them because a focus group told them to do it.Cookie said:
Yes, to those of us whose instinct is to be sceptical of state intervention, it's not instinctively obvious that the Conservative Party is more in line with our thinking than the Lib Dems. Especially given the two parties' records on covid.MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
But even the current Tory Party is probably still less keen on state intervention than Labour.0 -
I'll have to share his winnings!Peter_the_Punter said:
Mike Smithson probably gave it to them.Roger said:
I'm not sure. Could be from anywhere I suppose. It was definitely authentic and it was only £13rottenborough said:
How did they get your email address?Roger said:I just got an email fro Owen Smith asking me for money. I'm not a Labour Party member but it was sent to me personally from the candidate for Wakefield. It said the usual donation was £13 which seemed modest so I sent it.
It's a good idea to send personal emails to people you don't know. £13 to help remove Johnson is the least any of us can do and I'm sure plenty of other people will feel the same.
(it asked if I'd ever been to Wakefield! Apparently its been abandoned)0 -
Don't hold your breath.Roger said:
You ask a good question! I'm looking forward to the answerBenpointer said:
"Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again"MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
What on earth are you talking about?0 -
No one needs to care. It was entertainment, many enjoy celeb gossip after all. Not my cup of tea, but it's not like there's anything grand about not being interested in it either.Farooq said:
I literally have no idea who alleged what about whom. I know that Depp is an actor, I don't know who Herd is. I have the oddest feeling even that scant information is more than I need to know but I'm happy to take advice on why I should care if I'm wrong.dixiedean said:First story on World Tonight.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a monkey's about Depp v Heard?0 -
Heard is also an actor.Farooq said:
I literally have no idea who alleged what about whom. I know that Depp is an actor, I don't know who Herd is. I have the oddest feeling even that scant information is more than I need to know but I'm happy to take advice on why I should care if I'm wrong.dixiedean said:First story on World Tonight.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a monkey's about Depp v Heard?
They met on the set of The Rum Diary, which I think is a totally brilliant film despite what the critics seem to think.
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Her career? Its behind her...dixiedean said:
Oh no she doesn't!williamglenn said:Arlene Foster becomes a Dame.
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Damehoods are not peeragesSunil_Prasannan said:
House of Lords = House of Unelected Has-Beens!williamglenn said:Arlene Foster becomes a Dame.
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I became briefly amused when I learned she had taken a dump in his bed and blamed it on the dog. But I have not followed it since.kle4 said:
No one needs to care. It was entertainment, many enjoy celeb gossip after all. Not my cup of tea, but it's not like there's anything grand about not being interested in it either.Farooq said:
I literally have no idea who alleged what about whom. I know that Depp is an actor, I don't know who Herd is. I have the oddest feeling even that scant information is more than I need to know but I'm happy to take advice on why I should care if I'm wrong.dixiedean said:First story on World Tonight.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a monkey's about Depp v Heard?
It is being touted by some as the pendulum swinging back - a #MeToo too far. No idea if this is the truth.0 -
Cawdor, Glamis, Deputy PM...rcs1000 said:
Nick Clegg moves one step closer to the throne...williamglenn said:And Sheryl Sandberg is leaving Facebook. At one point people thought she would ultimately run for political office so maybe that's on the cards now, although her image has been tarnished by Facebook's problems.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61666340
(For the avoidance of doubt, that was not a serious comment.)0 -
Both are actors. Depp is the only good one.Farooq said:
I literally have no idea who alleged what about whom. I know that Depp is an actor, I don't know who Herd is. I have the oddest feeling even that scant information is more than I need to know but I'm happy to take advice on why I should care if I'm wrong.dixiedean said:First story on World Tonight.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a monkey's about Depp v Heard?
Ultimately it's a story about who abused who, and whether or not a woman can be an abuser (Hint, yes, anyone can). Amber Heard claimed Depp abused her, and it almost finished off his career. She effectively tried to have him cancelled.
Now it's come out that, while neither of them were exactly perfect, she was the abusive one (cutting his finger off, defecating in his bed etc). Also a flagrant liar, claiming she donated millions from their divorce settlement to charity when she did not.
A lot of men (and women) who have been in relationships with a manipulative partner who has been believed over them will be nodding and smiling this evening.3 -
Benpointer said:
"Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again"MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
What on earth are you talking about?
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"Of course, of course! Must be the booze!"IshmaelZ said:
Damehoods are not peeragesSunil_Prasannan said:
House of Lords = House of Unelected Has-Beens!williamglenn said:Arlene Foster becomes a Dame.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61644729
"But you don't drink, Sunil."
"Oh, yeah!"0 -
We'll shortly find out she was a Barry Humphries character all along.IshmaelZ said:
Damehoods are not peeragesSunil_Prasannan said:
House of Lords = House of Unelected Has-Beens!williamglenn said:Arlene Foster becomes a Dame.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-616447290 -
The plot thickens!MoonRabbit said:Benpointer said:
"Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again"MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
What on earth are you talking about?
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Is he their star man?Farooq said:
The successor seat to K&D is West Aberdeenshire & Kincadine. In 1997, three candidates were called Smith, Kynoch, and Khan, which is quite a Laboury sounding lineup.TheScreamingEagles said:In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.
The Lib Dems held it with Robert Smith, until the Disintegration of the Lib Dem vote in 2015. It's now held by Bowie, but I doubt things will be Hunky Dory for him at the next election with his majority being just 8431 -
That's all very well.MoonRabbit said:Benpointer said:
"Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again"MoonRabbit said:
Knowing that Socialism was tried and failed, so only thicko’s want to try again, and utter despair at Boris unConservative car crash of a government. Barely a week goes by without Boris government doing some Populist that’s utterly unConservative. He’s not come to praise Conservatism, but to bury it.kle4 said:
Instinctual aversion to voting Labour meaning no other alternative, NIMBYism, and a dash of conservative liberalism.EPG said:I have no idea what drives Tories to vote LD
What on earth are you talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xJoWzPZGjY
Labour under Starmer may be many things.
But it ain't Socialism. Or that. Lib Dem fail there.0 -
With that capitalisation it makes it seem as significant an event as the Dissolution of the Monastaries.Farooq said:
The successor seat to K&D is West Aberdeenshire & Kincadine. In 1997, three candidates were called Smith, Kynoch, and Khan, which is quite a Laboury sounding lineup.TheScreamingEagles said:In answer to your question, the last time the Tories lost two by elections on the same day was the 7th of November 1991 when the Tories lost Langbaurgh and Kincardine & Deeside to Labour and the Lib Dems respectively.
The Lib Dems held it with Robert Smith, until the Disintegration of the Lib Dem vote in 2015. It's now held by Bowie, but I doubt things will be Hunky Dory for him at the next election with his majority being just 8431 -
OTOH.kyf_100 said:
Both are actors. Depp is the only good one.Farooq said:
I literally have no idea who alleged what about whom. I know that Depp is an actor, I don't know who Herd is. I have the oddest feeling even that scant information is more than I need to know but I'm happy to take advice on why I should care if I'm wrong.dixiedean said:First story on World Tonight.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a monkey's about Depp v Heard?
Ultimately it's a story about who abused who, and whether or not a woman can be an abuser (Hint, yes, anyone can). Amber Heard claimed Depp abused her, and it almost finished off his career. She effectively tried to have him cancelled.
Now it's come out that, while neither of them were exactly perfect, she was the abusive one (cutting his finger off, defecating in his bed etc). Also a flagrant liar, claiming she donated millions from their divorce settlement to charity when she did not.
A lot of men (and women) who have been in relationships with a manipulative partner who has been believed over them will be nodding and smiling this evening.
And I haven't been following it.
It's possible neither is.a nice piece of work.0 -
My parents say supper and I say dinner partly just to wind them up (but mainly because supper just sounds fucking ridiculous).IshmaelZ said:
I brought my sons up from the beginning to say toilet when they meant lavatory because of the pain I knew it would inflict on my father.Leon said:
Yep, all those French kids will be saying “jeu video de competition” rather than “e-sports”kle4 said:I kind of admire their persistence, but their alternative suggestions are pretty cumbersome to say the least
France's language watchdog has told government officials to use French gaming terms instead of English ones.
The Académie Française says "jeu video de competition" should replace "e-sports", and "streamer" should become "joueur-animateur en direct".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61647192
It’s a bit like a posh great great grandmother trying to get you to say “looking glass” rather than “mirror”, except there isn’t even a poshness value, plus the whole thing is even more embarrassing
Any French teen will simply CRINGE0
