Reassuring CON voters 3 days before the Bexley by-election – politicalbetting.com
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Yes actually good point I will go and re-read that bit. I suppose it is from a position of it existing what now. And we are still in the situation with the N-word.Endillion said:
Spurs' reclaiming of the term in question has done nothing to detoxify it; if anything the reverse. I thought you were currently a fan of David Baddiel's works? He has been very vocal about the confusion that arises on this exact point, that if a word is considered taboo then no-one should use it, even in a pseudo-positive sense, and if they do it becomes much harder to explain to the general population why they shouldn't.TOPPING said:
Why oh dear oh dear. It's the same with the N-word. If you ain't you can't; if you are you can. Logical? Perhaps not but this is where we are. Or to put it on a sounder theoretical basis, reclaim the term to detoxify it (cf Tottenham Hotspur).Leon said:Oh dear oh dear oh dear
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Just had a million pounds on Red Rum to win the 1973 Grand National with a mate!CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're the only one here who seems to think "Starmer is crap" is an opinion worth sharingisam said:Am I the only one on here here nether went to boarding school nor is on an opinion pollster's speed dial?
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Fantastic bet, well done youisam said:
Just had a million pounds on Red Rum to win the 1973 Grand National with a mate!CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're the only one here who seems to think "Starmer is crap" is an opinion worth sharingisam said:Am I the only one on here here nether went to boarding school nor is on an opinion pollster's speed dial?
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No, probably more than three there.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ampleforth?Nigelb said:
At least three of the staff subsequently did 5-10 stretches for sex crimes, which probably isn't quite so much of a thing today.Leon said:TOPPING said:
As I said from the outset I make no judgement, just that there are alternative views. And experiences.Nigelb said:
Topping is perhaps one of those who thrived ?Leon said:
At the age of..... seven??TOPPING said:
Why is it not selfish to force your children to be with you the whole time instead of allowing them to become independent away from you for part of the year.Leon said:
When did I ever say I was UNdamaged? lolTOPPING said:
Damaged. Taking hallucinogenic drugs, getting sent to jail, going on benders and blacking out from time to time in the course of a rich and varied career flint knapping damaged you mean.Leon said:
That's like saying cold showers can be good for small children, or Spartan babycare (expose them on mountains!), or constant flogging makes boys disciplinedTOPPING said:Boarding school can be the making of some people, can be horrible for some people, and all shades in between. Just like any school experience.
The corollary of saying how selfish it is for parents to send their children away to boarding school is to say how selfish it is for parents to stunt their children's growth by having them around as playthings rather than letting them develop on their own.
I make no comment on the benefit or disadvantages of boarding schools just that it is not all oh how Victorian.
Well, yes. But common sense says kids at the age of 7 should not be separated from their parents for months on end, especially the mothers. Some will thrive, most will survive, a large minority will be damaged
As they reach their teens it is different, as we have all agreed
I'm a fricking basket case (who has has an enormous amount of fun). That doesn't mean I can't see bad, selfish parenting. Boarding school at 7 is it, with some exceptions
Children of 7 like being with Mum and Dad. In my experience. That's not "forcing" kids to stay home the whole time - they still go to school. This is just letting kids be their normal selves. Most kids want Mum and warmth and safety at the end of the day. They're 7, FFS
I guess we are simply of totally different mindsets and I find yours utterly incomprehensible, so there isn't much room for debate, and we may as well desist
I loathed the experience.
I am not judging you. You clearly thrived, as Nigel says. Good for you
However as this is a betting website, I would wager that 80%+ of humanity agrees with me, not you: don't send your kids away at the age of 7, to live with other people, unless there is some overwhelming need
I’m glad I was a good Muslim boy in my youth, thus ruling out that place.
The acoustic in the chapel is quite extraordinary, though.0 -
Such an odd thing to get hung up on, the value of a bet. When not only was I right - twice in a row - I won money which I've spent on a significant amount of booze. Some people are odd2
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If Nadine hasn't 'had a word', someone has. The BBC has gone noticeably more pro Government and the Conservative party of late.Theuniondivvie said:
I think they did report the speech on an earlier bulletin on the radio but it was just an excerpt of whatever green guff BJ had decided to insert today, no gaffes mentioned.TimS said:I couldn't find any mention of the Boris gaffe on the Beeb website, at least not yet. Perhaps Nadine has "had a word".
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And their enemies.TOPPING said:
As I said you are looking at this mainly from the parents' perspective, not the child's.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Agreed. Our children bring us so much happiness, even if they're hard work at times. The idea of sending them away is just mind-boggling to me. Boarding school for primary school aged children seems pretty close to child abuse or neglect. For older children it may be okay but it's sad for the parents to miss out on such an interesting time in their children's lives. And I think taking the children out of the family relationship perhaps harms their ability to form healthy stable relationships themselves later in life (see eg the PM).AlistairM said:
What is the point of having kids and packing them off to boarding school? If you want to have a relaxing time then don't have kids. You are right about the 6-10 age range. My eldest is coming up for 13 and the experience with her is totally different now!Leon said:
I don't understand parents, esp a mother, who will happily post their children to faraway places when the kids are about 7. And not see them for months, or yearsDecrepiterJohnL said:
Two of our last three Prime Ministers were packed off to boarding school at seven or eight, and probably nearly all the rest before Wilson. Pitt the Younger was home-schooled iirc from the ITV series.Leon said:
It’s not the financial issues - tho they are a factor - it’s the physical and emotional demands of parenting. And these are now much greater on fathers than they were.HYUFD said:
I am sure they can afford nannies.MikeSmithson said:
I think that's right. Having kids in your 50s isn't that smart because they so disrupt your life.Leon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
One of my late grandfathers had a child in his 50s with a younger wife but again they could afford a nanny at that time. For most people though yes without major child support it can be a burden and even with a nanny you still have to support them through school and maybe university
In Victorian times a rich father could get away with seeing the bairns for 10 minutes a day and maybe an hour at the weekend. Then you packed them off to boarding school at 7. Incredible, really. And cruel
Carrie won’t stand for that. She’s a modern mum. She will expect Boris to pitch in, or else. And it is showing.
7? It's an adorable age. That's when kids are most fun - from about 6 to 10. Inquiring, amusing, eager, cute, unpredictable, yet still with that precious innocence.
15 or 17 is different, of course.
I am sure plenty of kids benefit from the bracing cruelty of boarding school at age 7. Makes you independent, blah blah
But I have friends who absolutely hated it, and who have blamed and despised their parents ever since
My wife went to several boarding schools primarily because her father was often working in different jobs in Europe and it provided her some stability. There are some circumstances like that where they fulfil a need. In most cases though I feel it is for parents with lots of money so they can carry on living a life as if they didn't have kids for 2/3rds of the year.
I can understand how Boris is knackered. My kids are 12, 8 and 4 and I regularly get woken at 4.30am in the morning by the youngest, work during the day and at the end of the day act as a taxi service for kids activities. Often I don't get in from them until 9pm. I'm often in bed before the oldest one. At least I don't have to worry about being Prime Minister too!
"...bring us so much happiness..." "...sad for the parents..."
You aren't sending them away for ever there are plenty of exeats and so forth and holidays for family relationships. And in the meantime they are learning self-sufficiency and making lifelong friendships and are with their friends all the time.0 -
Just had 18k with a mate that you'd say that, at 10/3CorrectHorseBattery said:Such an odd thing to get hung up on, the value of a bet. When not only was I right - twice in a row - I won money which I've spent on a significant amount of booze. Some people are odd
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God that Starmer quote is so dull. This is why Boris still isn't out of the running despite being a massive c***. He's literally facing the world's most boring lawyer who's got nothing to say.2
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I knew somebody who went there and they had a teaching section in a yearbook and I was shocked by how many on that page were convinced or were suspected of abuse.Nigelb said:
No, probably more than three there.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ampleforth?Nigelb said:
At least three of the staff subsequently did 5-10 stretches for sex crimes, which probably isn't quite so much of a thing today.Leon said:TOPPING said:
As I said from the outset I make no judgement, just that there are alternative views. And experiences.Nigelb said:
Topping is perhaps one of those who thrived ?Leon said:
At the age of..... seven??TOPPING said:
Why is it not selfish to force your children to be with you the whole time instead of allowing them to become independent away from you for part of the year.Leon said:
When did I ever say I was UNdamaged? lolTOPPING said:
Damaged. Taking hallucinogenic drugs, getting sent to jail, going on benders and blacking out from time to time in the course of a rich and varied career flint knapping damaged you mean.Leon said:
That's like saying cold showers can be good for small children, or Spartan babycare (expose them on mountains!), or constant flogging makes boys disciplinedTOPPING said:Boarding school can be the making of some people, can be horrible for some people, and all shades in between. Just like any school experience.
The corollary of saying how selfish it is for parents to send their children away to boarding school is to say how selfish it is for parents to stunt their children's growth by having them around as playthings rather than letting them develop on their own.
I make no comment on the benefit or disadvantages of boarding schools just that it is not all oh how Victorian.
Well, yes. But common sense says kids at the age of 7 should not be separated from their parents for months on end, especially the mothers. Some will thrive, most will survive, a large minority will be damaged
As they reach their teens it is different, as we have all agreed
I'm a fricking basket case (who has has an enormous amount of fun). That doesn't mean I can't see bad, selfish parenting. Boarding school at 7 is it, with some exceptions
Children of 7 like being with Mum and Dad. In my experience. That's not "forcing" kids to stay home the whole time - they still go to school. This is just letting kids be their normal selves. Most kids want Mum and warmth and safety at the end of the day. They're 7, FFS
I guess we are simply of totally different mindsets and I find yours utterly incomprehensible, so there isn't much room for debate, and we may as well desist
I loathed the experience.
I am not judging you. You clearly thrived, as Nigel says. Good for you
However as this is a betting website, I would wager that 80%+ of humanity agrees with me, not you: don't send your kids away at the age of 7, to live with other people, unless there is some overwhelming need
I’m glad I was a good Muslim boy in my youth, thus ruling out that place.
The acoustic in the chapel is quite extraordinary, though.0 -
Yes that is also true.Nigelb said:
And their enemies.TOPPING said:
As I said you are looking at this mainly from the parents' perspective, not the child's.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Agreed. Our children bring us so much happiness, even if they're hard work at times. The idea of sending them away is just mind-boggling to me. Boarding school for primary school aged children seems pretty close to child abuse or neglect. For older children it may be okay but it's sad for the parents to miss out on such an interesting time in their children's lives. And I think taking the children out of the family relationship perhaps harms their ability to form healthy stable relationships themselves later in life (see eg the PM).AlistairM said:
What is the point of having kids and packing them off to boarding school? If you want to have a relaxing time then don't have kids. You are right about the 6-10 age range. My eldest is coming up for 13 and the experience with her is totally different now!Leon said:
I don't understand parents, esp a mother, who will happily post their children to faraway places when the kids are about 7. And not see them for months, or yearsDecrepiterJohnL said:
Two of our last three Prime Ministers were packed off to boarding school at seven or eight, and probably nearly all the rest before Wilson. Pitt the Younger was home-schooled iirc from the ITV series.Leon said:
It’s not the financial issues - tho they are a factor - it’s the physical and emotional demands of parenting. And these are now much greater on fathers than they were.HYUFD said:
I am sure they can afford nannies.MikeSmithson said:
I think that's right. Having kids in your 50s isn't that smart because they so disrupt your life.Leon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
One of my late grandfathers had a child in his 50s with a younger wife but again they could afford a nanny at that time. For most people though yes without major child support it can be a burden and even with a nanny you still have to support them through school and maybe university
In Victorian times a rich father could get away with seeing the bairns for 10 minutes a day and maybe an hour at the weekend. Then you packed them off to boarding school at 7. Incredible, really. And cruel
Carrie won’t stand for that. She’s a modern mum. She will expect Boris to pitch in, or else. And it is showing.
7? It's an adorable age. That's when kids are most fun - from about 6 to 10. Inquiring, amusing, eager, cute, unpredictable, yet still with that precious innocence.
15 or 17 is different, of course.
I am sure plenty of kids benefit from the bracing cruelty of boarding school at age 7. Makes you independent, blah blah
But I have friends who absolutely hated it, and who have blamed and despised their parents ever since
My wife went to several boarding schools primarily because her father was often working in different jobs in Europe and it provided her some stability. There are some circumstances like that where they fulfil a need. In most cases though I feel it is for parents with lots of money so they can carry on living a life as if they didn't have kids for 2/3rds of the year.
I can understand how Boris is knackered. My kids are 12, 8 and 4 and I regularly get woken at 4.30am in the morning by the youngest, work during the day and at the end of the day act as a taxi service for kids activities. Often I don't get in from them until 9pm. I'm often in bed before the oldest one. At least I don't have to worry about being Prime Minister too!
"...bring us so much happiness..." "...sad for the parents..."
You aren't sending them away for ever there are plenty of exeats and so forth and holidays for family relationships. And in the meantime they are learning self-sufficiency and making lifelong friendships and are with their friends all the time.0 -
"I murdered some libtards and now I get to fly across the country to eat ribs"Farooq said:
Now he's a celebrity and probably going to get very rich off of his fame.Theuniondivvie said:Photo op with with Trump on the cards?
'Murican dream.1 -
Do you find that repeating the same joke over and over makes people like you?isam said:
Just had 18k with a mate that you'd say that, at 10/3CorrectHorseBattery said:Such an odd thing to get hung up on, the value of a bet. When not only was I right - twice in a row - I won money which I've spent on a significant amount of booze. Some people are odd
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Bulb goes into administration.
As the Not the Nine O'clock News parody of That's Life put it:
'We phoned the electricity board'
'They said "This has absolutely nothing to do with us"'
Privatisation. Still going well.3 -
Yes, it is. Bulb shareholders and bondholders are now going to be wiped out because they ran an unsustainable business built on sand.SandyRentool said:Bulb goes into administration.
As the Not the Nine O'clock News parody of That's Life put it:
'We phoned the electricity board'
'They said "This has absolutely nothing to do with us"'
Privatisation. Still going well.1 -
Lawfully shot, please.RochdalePioneers said:
"I murdered some libtards and now I get to fly across the country to eat ribs"Farooq said:
Now he's a celebrity and probably going to get very rich off of his fame.Theuniondivvie said:Photo op with with Trump on the cards?
'Murican dream.
That he is being celebrated as some kind of a hero by national representatives is just sick.0 -
I remember being 7 or 8 and mum and dad threatening to "send me to boarding school" if I was naughty
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Whereas she could have just made you do the garden?Sunil_Prasannan said:I remember being 7 or 8 and mum and dad threatening to "send me to boarding school" if I was naughty
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No, no, no.MaxPB said:
Yes, it is. Bulb shareholders and bondholders are now going to be wiped out because they ran an unsustainable business built on sand.SandyRentool said:Bulb goes into administration.
As the Not the Nine O'clock News parody of That's Life put it:
'We phoned the electricity board'
'They said "This has absolutely nothing to do with us"'
Privatisation. Still going well.
A Proper Privatisation socialises the loses and privatises the profits. See PFI.
A privatisation that privates the profits and the loses - that's Incontheeeevable.1 -
So far, so goodCorrectHorseBattery said:
Do you find that repeating the same joke over and over makes people like you?isam said:
Just had 18k with a mate that you'd say that, at 10/3CorrectHorseBattery said:Such an odd thing to get hung up on, the value of a bet. When not only was I right - twice in a row - I won money which I've spent on a significant amount of booze. Some people are odd
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Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.3
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Off topic - https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2021/nov/22/lake-distict-walking-cumbria-england-coast-path
Of course the beach and walks south of Silecroft are even better with SSI's and bird reserves!
The mountain in the distance is Black Combe at the head of the Whicham valley. I lived in a barn halfway up it for a year. On a clear day you can see both Scotland and Blackpool from the top.1 -
Re: Boarding school. I was sent to be a boarder at the age of nine, primarily because my parents wanted the best education for me. The only way my father could finance it was to take a job with the ODA (now DfiD) in Africa. Therefore, I had to board. The immigrant mentality that education was everything was the driver for this.
I hated it, It was horrible. I was close to my parents especially Mum at the age of nine (most kids are), so being away from them was emotionally tough for me. I was the youngest and the only BAME so inevitably I was bullied and made to feel miserable. It got better as the years progressed (I reverted to day school at 13). I didn’t want to complain to my parents because they were surely giving me a privileged education so I dutifully sucked it up. I may have an excellent academic record, a good job, a nice house, experienced the expat lifestyle when on holiday and some loyal life long friends but you know what? I would trade all those things in for me to be with my parents between the ages of 9 and 13.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions as they say!
For once I agree with @Leon and @Sean_F. They are 100% spot on here.
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Sir K says be my guest Nigel!!!isam said:...
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His opponents just have to show that footage of him squealing like a besotted groupie when Trump flew in. Surely that would shred his reputation in Blighty for ever.isam said:...
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Starmer looking more and more like caretaker leader between the clusterf*ck of Corbyn and the woman leader who might actually have a chance of winning an election.MaxPB said:Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.
But he still has time to turn it around. Putting Reeves in as shad CoE was at least a move in right direction.1 -
That’s a very interesting graph. Thank you!TheScreamingEagles said:
Mike has flagged it up for a while, it was Corbyn not Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:How much of the 2019 result was anti-Corby rather than pro-Johnson and how much is this being proven with the now level pegging in the polls?
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1293086615758413824
On Boris gaff, the Peppa Pig adlib seemed a bit rehearsed and coherent? Meanwhile when delivering the actual speech does it come across to you, like Grannt Shapps last week Boris using the idea of delivered for just ongoing promises and aims? Is this the bit that will wear thin in the end, clock ticking on delivery?0 -
Or wheel out Farage's anti-semitic comments. As Corbyn eventually found out that eventually costs you votes.Stark_Dawning said:
His opponents just have to show that footage of him squealing like a besotted groupie when Trump flew in. Surely that would shred his reputation in Blighty for ever.isam said:...
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90%???MaxPB said:Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.
It's a concept lost on 90% of trust lawyers. And the Court of Appeal, on occasion.
So perhaps 99.999% would be more apppropriate.2 -
Considering Horse has opened up on here about trying to overcome his mental health issues, I find your regular digs at him somewhat counter productive, perhaps verging on bullying.isam said:
Just had a million pounds on Red Rum to win the 1973 Grand National with a mate!CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're the only one here who seems to think "Starmer is crap" is an opinion worth sharingisam said:Am I the only one on here here nether went to boarding school nor is on an opinion pollster's speed dial?
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They were allowed to run an unsustainable business by the regulator? Discuss.MaxPB said:
Yes, it is. Bulb shareholders and bondholders are now going to be wiped out because they ran an unsustainable business built on sand.SandyRentool said:Bulb goes into administration.
As the Not the Nine O'clock News parody of That's Life put it:
'We phoned the electricity board'
'They said "This has absolutely nothing to do with us"'
Privatisation. Still going well.1 -
I cant see NF proving a credible threat to the Tories, without Brussels to bash NF is a rather lone voice. Its probably more to do with hard cash on the speaking circuit.... Boris should be more concerned about his grandee backbenchers....0
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That bank manager in the Mary Poppins film?MaxPB said:Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.
Ah. I see the problem.1 -
We all just thought it was his posting style.Mexicanpete said:
Considering Horse has opened up on here about trying to overcome his mental health issues, I find your regular digs at him somewhat counter productive, perhaps verging on bullying.isam said:
Just had a million pounds on Red Rum to win the 1973 Grand National with a mate!CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're the only one here who seems to think "Starmer is crap" is an opinion worth sharingisam said:Am I the only one on here here nether went to boarding school nor is on an opinion pollster's speed dial?
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All children should be removed from their parents at birth and brought up in state institutions until the age of 18.
It's the only way to create a level playing field and give the offspring of feckless scrotes the same chances as those born to poshos and the sharp-elbowed brigade.
It's either that or mass sterilisation to facilitate the eradication of humankind. You can't say that I don't offer the voters a choice.
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It is slightly less niche than Mishconduct, but only very slightly.TheWhiteRabbit said:
90%???MaxPB said:Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.
It's a concept lost on 90% of trust lawyers. And the Court of Appeal, on occasion.
So perhaps 99.999% would be more apppropriate.0 -
Well to be fair you seem keen on posting Johnson is crap quite a lot. Now, tbf its true, he is, but it shouldn't let others post their opinions too...CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're the only one here who seems to think "Starmer is crap" is an opinion worth sharingisam said:Am I the only one on here here nether went to boarding school nor is on an opinion pollster's speed dial?
(And its good to have you back posting, and hopefully feeling better. Stay well.)1 -
I was prepared to give BoJo the benefit of the doubt on that one and assume that the joke was understood by its singular intended recipient.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is slightly less niche than Mishconduct, but only very slightly.TheWhiteRabbit said:
90%???MaxPB said:Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.
It's a concept lost on 90% of trust lawyers. And the Court of Appeal, on occasion.
So perhaps 99.999% would be more apppropriate.
I didn't even get it the first time, and I was a vac scheme student there...!1 -
Secret of comedy is repetition (see literally all comedy, but especially The Fast Show).CorrectHorseBattery said:
Do you find that repeating the same joke over and over makes people like you?isam said:
Just had 18k with a mate that you'd say that, at 10/3CorrectHorseBattery said:Such an odd thing to get hung up on, the value of a bet. When not only was I right - twice in a row - I won money which I've spent on a significant amount of booze. Some people are odd
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No, there is an opening now - because of the boats crossing the Channelswing_voter said:I cant see NF proving a credible threat to the Tories, without Brussels to bash NF is a rather lone voice. Its probably more to do with hard cash on the speaking circuit.... Boris should be more concerned about his grandee backbenchers....
Again I point to this as being more important than sleaze, in destroying the Tories' reputation. If the bloody Tories can't control the borders, what is the point of them, and in what way have the got Brexit "done"?
It's absolutely toxic. What the answer is, I dunno, but the Tories need to find one, fast. All Farage has to do is gesture and jeer and he could get 2m votes1 -
Wow. I want to a (state) boarding school for seven years. I can honestly say I never heard the slightest whiff of a suggestion of anyone being raped. That's not to say everyone liked it.Sean_F said:
Especially when you consider that you're likely sending your children away to be raped at some point, if you send them to boarding school.Leon said:
At the age of..... seven??TOPPING said:
Why is it not selfish to force your children to be with you the whole time instead of allowing them to become independent away from you for part of the year.Leon said:
When did I ever say I was UNdamaged? lolTOPPING said:
Damaged. Taking hallucinogenic drugs, getting sent to jail, going on benders and blacking out from time to time in the course of a rich and varied career flint knapping damaged you mean.Leon said:
That's like saying cold showers can be good for small children, or Spartan babycare (expose them on mountains!), or constant flogging makes boys disciplinedTOPPING said:Boarding school can be the making of some people, can be horrible for some people, and all shades in between. Just like any school experience.
The corollary of saying how selfish it is for parents to send their children away to boarding school is to say how selfish it is for parents to stunt their children's growth by having them around as playthings rather than letting them develop on their own.
I make no comment on the benefit or disadvantages of boarding schools just that it is not all oh how Victorian.
Well, yes. But common sense says kids at the age of 7 should not be separated from their parents for months on end, especially the mothers. Some will thrive, most will survive, a large minority will be damaged
As they reach their teens it is different, as we have all agreed
I'm a fricking basket case (who has has an enormous amount of fun). That doesn't mean I can't see bad, selfish parenting. Boarding school at 7 is it, with some exceptions
Children of 7 like being with Mum and Dad. In my experience. That's not "forcing" kids to stay home the whole time - they still go to school. This is just letting kids be their normal selves. Most kids want Mum and warmth and safety at the end of the day. They're 7, FFS
I guess we are simply of totally different mindsets and I find yours utterly incomprehensible, so there isn't much room for debate, and we may as well desist0 -
The market has found things that regulators didn't know about or think of. Discuss.rottenborough said:
They were allowed to run an unsustainable business by the regulator? Discuss.MaxPB said:
Yes, it is. Bulb shareholders and bondholders are now going to be wiped out because they ran an unsustainable business built on sand.SandyRentool said:Bulb goes into administration.
As the Not the Nine O'clock News parody of That's Life put it:
'We phoned the electricity board'
'They said "This has absolutely nothing to do with us"'
Privatisation. Still going well.0 -
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Not far off!SandyRentool said:All children should be removed from their parents at birth and brought up in state institutions until the age of 18.
It's the only way to create a level playing field and give the offspring of feckless scrotes the same chances as those born to poshos and the sharp-elbowed brigade.
It's either that or mass sterilisation to facilitate the eradication of humankind. You can't say that I don't offer the voters a choice.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1920/communism-family.htm0 -
Genuine LOLJonWC said:
Wow. I want to a (state) boarding school for seven years. I can honestly say I never heard the slightest whiff of a suggestion of anyone being raped. That's not to say everyone liked it.Sean_F said:
Especially when you consider that you're likely sending your children away to be raped at some point, if you send them to boarding school.Leon said:
At the age of..... seven??TOPPING said:
Why is it not selfish to force your children to be with you the whole time instead of allowing them to become independent away from you for part of the year.Leon said:
When did I ever say I was UNdamaged? lolTOPPING said:
Damaged. Taking hallucinogenic drugs, getting sent to jail, going on benders and blacking out from time to time in the course of a rich and varied career flint knapping damaged you mean.Leon said:
That's like saying cold showers can be good for small children, or Spartan babycare (expose them on mountains!), or constant flogging makes boys disciplinedTOPPING said:Boarding school can be the making of some people, can be horrible for some people, and all shades in between. Just like any school experience.
The corollary of saying how selfish it is for parents to send their children away to boarding school is to say how selfish it is for parents to stunt their children's growth by having them around as playthings rather than letting them develop on their own.
I make no comment on the benefit or disadvantages of boarding schools just that it is not all oh how Victorian.
Well, yes. But common sense says kids at the age of 7 should not be separated from their parents for months on end, especially the mothers. Some will thrive, most will survive, a large minority will be damaged
As they reach their teens it is different, as we have all agreed
I'm a fricking basket case (who has has an enormous amount of fun). That doesn't mean I can't see bad, selfish parenting. Boarding school at 7 is it, with some exceptions
Children of 7 like being with Mum and Dad. In my experience. That's not "forcing" kids to stay home the whole time - they still go to school. This is just letting kids be their normal selves. Most kids want Mum and warmth and safety at the end of the day. They're 7, FFS
I guess we are simply of totally different mindsets and I find yours utterly incomprehensible, so there isn't much room for debate, and we may as well desist0 -
If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.1
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That may suit you sir, but I’ve actually been down a hole, in the dark, with an owl.turbotubbs said:
Secret of comedy is repetition (see literally all comedy, but especially The Fast Show).CorrectHorseBattery said:
Do you find that repeating the same joke over and over makes people like you?isam said:
Just had 18k with a mate that you'd say that, at 10/3CorrectHorseBattery said:Such an odd thing to get hung up on, the value of a bet. When not only was I right - twice in a row - I won money which I've spent on a significant amount of booze. Some people are odd
Get well soon Horse! And keep posting! I love to see your happy horse! 🤠0 -
Ah there you are.Leon said:
Genuine LOLJonWC said:
Wow. I want to a (state) boarding school for seven years. I can honestly say I never heard the slightest whiff of a suggestion of anyone being raped. That's not to say everyone liked it.Sean_F said:
Especially when you consider that you're likely sending your children away to be raped at some point, if you send them to boarding school.Leon said:
At the age of..... seven??TOPPING said:
Why is it not selfish to force your children to be with you the whole time instead of allowing them to become independent away from you for part of the year.Leon said:
When did I ever say I was UNdamaged? lolTOPPING said:
Damaged. Taking hallucinogenic drugs, getting sent to jail, going on benders and blacking out from time to time in the course of a rich and varied career flint knapping damaged you mean.Leon said:
That's like saying cold showers can be good for small children, or Spartan babycare (expose them on mountains!), or constant flogging makes boys disciplinedTOPPING said:Boarding school can be the making of some people, can be horrible for some people, and all shades in between. Just like any school experience.
The corollary of saying how selfish it is for parents to send their children away to boarding school is to say how selfish it is for parents to stunt their children's growth by having them around as playthings rather than letting them develop on their own.
I make no comment on the benefit or disadvantages of boarding schools just that it is not all oh how Victorian.
Well, yes. But common sense says kids at the age of 7 should not be separated from their parents for months on end, especially the mothers. Some will thrive, most will survive, a large minority will be damaged
As they reach their teens it is different, as we have all agreed
I'm a fricking basket case (who has has an enormous amount of fun). That doesn't mean I can't see bad, selfish parenting. Boarding school at 7 is it, with some exceptions
Children of 7 like being with Mum and Dad. In my experience. That's not "forcing" kids to stay home the whole time - they still go to school. This is just letting kids be their normal selves. Most kids want Mum and warmth and safety at the end of the day. They're 7, FFS
I guess we are simply of totally different mindsets and I find yours utterly incomprehensible, so there isn't much room for debate, and we may as well desist
Now about our bet.
Let me know terms and the evidence required and I'll take a look.0 -
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
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TheScreamingEagles said:
It is slightly less niche than Mishconduct, but only very slightly.TheWhiteRabbit said:
90%???MaxPB said:Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.
It's a concept lost on 90% of trust lawyers. And the Court of Appeal, on occasion.
So perhaps 99.999% would be more apppropriate.
Half a day it seems is a long time in politics.
Before lunch some were dumbfounded at Johnson's morning train wreck (tbh it didn't seem much worse than his previous train wrecks) which has now been explained on here pretty much as well rehearsed slapstick comedy genius, and Starmer's speech which went down well with the CBI, turns out to be high on the PB list of stinkers.
I am sure the issue will be clarified for me on tonight's TV news.0 -
Hugo Gye
@HugoGye
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55m
Uptake of boosters in Flag of England among those eligible, per age group:
50-54: 55%
55-59: 60%
60-64: 59%
65-69: 70%
70-74: 82%
75-79: 91%
80+: 87%
Looks like fears that large numbers of people would opt against getting a booster have proven to be unfounded.0 -
If Labour want to genuinely win back all the RedWall (which is probably their only chance of getting most seats let alone a majority absent major gains in Scotland), then Burnham is still their best bet. However he is unlikely to try and return to the Commons until the next general electionrottenborough said:
Starmer looking more and more like caretaker leader between the clusterf*ck of Corbyn and the woman leader who might actually have a chance of winning an election.MaxPB said:Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.
But he still has time to turn it around. Putting Reeves in as shad CoE was at least a move in right direction.0 -
Apparently this is quite good:TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
https://www.no1-folly-bridge.co.uk/#about-the-restaurant
But I bet it's pricey.0 -
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.2 -
According to polls about 10% of UK voters would have voted for Trump if they were American even in 2020.Stark_Dawning said:
His opponents just have to show that footage of him squealing like a besotted groupie when Trump flew in. Surely that would shred his reputation in Blighty for ever.isam said:...
If Farage returned as RefUK leader and got them all to back him then RefUK would be close to UKIP 2015 levels, Farage's high point0 -
It was pointed out to me last Friday that Boris Johnson was married to a barrister for 25 years, he may have picked up the odd niche law joke.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I was prepared to give BoJo the benefit of the doubt on that one and assume that the joke was understood by its singular intended recipient.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is slightly less niche than Mishconduct, but only very slightly.TheWhiteRabbit said:
90%???MaxPB said:Seriously though, who the fuck talks about fiduciary duty outside of regulatory or legal meetings? It's a concept lost on 90% of the nation just after the PM shat the bed. Starmer had an opportunity to soundbite his way into the news, be the slick PM in waiting we all need to get Boris out. "I have three F words for you, foreign investment, foreign investment, foreign investment. Labour will create the most investor friendly economy in the world, we will ensure that high value goods and services are created here in the UK by the world's most productive and best educated workforce" is what he should have said.
It's a concept lost on 90% of trust lawyers. And the Court of Appeal, on occasion.
So perhaps 99.999% would be more apppropriate.
I didn't even get it the first time, and I was a vac scheme student there...!0 -
£25 for a main, not bad.tlg86 said:
Apparently this is quite good:TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
https://www.no1-folly-bridge.co.uk/#about-the-restaurant
But I bet it's pricey.0 -
The Turf is quintessentially Oxford but if you go at a busy time be prepared to sharpen your elbows to get a table. No idea how they get deliveries to it as it is tucked away down down an alley (St. Helen's Passage) and not where it is shown on Google Maps. If out late at night The Varsity Club has a rooftop terrace with stunning views over the city.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
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Menus at https://www.no1-folly-bridge.co.uk/menu - it's not that bad actually.tlg86 said:
Apparently this is quite good:TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
https://www.no1-folly-bridge.co.uk/#about-the-restaurant
But I bet it's pricey.0 -
The White Horse as well and the Blue Boar for pubs. People rave about the refurbished Randolph.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
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"An exit wave was inevitable and it was better to have it in summer than in winter. We always knew that more people would die before the pandemic was over, not least because several million adults chose not to get vaccinated."
"Boris Johnson has made a lot of mistakes during the pandemic, but it is time to admit he got this one right."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/22/chaos-europe-proves-england-right-end-restrictions-summer/1 -
I have my hotel shortlisted between the Randolph and the Old Parsonage.MrEd said:
The White Horse as well and the Blue Boar for pubs. People rave about the refurbished Randolph.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
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Both very good options.TheScreamingEagles said:
I have my hotel shortlisted between the Randolph and the Old Parsonage.MrEd said:
The White Horse as well and the Blue Boar for pubs. People rave about the refurbished Randolph.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
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That's great, and heartening to hear - but I don't think iSam is in his late 50s, like Boris; I think he was kinda joking that he is a somewhat older fatherCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.
If he is in his late 50s he looks exceptionally well preserved and he should be a YouTube influencer1 -
OT, looks like the Waukesha SUV incident may have been a BLM supporter driving into the crowd. Funnily enough, Team Biden not saying much on this, unlike some of their previous interest in Wisconsin:
https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/2020/09/02/the-latest-biden-to-visit-wisconsin-now-a-2020-flash-point/0 -
There's also the tarts, the JFK link and the man organising the orgies who was also an antiques dealer and sold my parents a beautiful George II bureau bookcase now sitting in my living-room. His daughter (legally not in reality) would stay with us when her parents were too busy with their shagathons.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The lavender list was Harold Wilson's resignation honours list, said to have been compiled by his very powerful secretary, Marcia Williams, on lavender-coloured notepaper.JBriskin3 said:
The Profumo Affair does sound interesteing.DecrepiterJohnL said:
MRDA is often used on pb, like QTWAIN, AICMFP and, well, pb.JBriskin3 said:
Fair enough - that's a pretty obscure ref if you ask me.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Mandy Rice-Davies applies, from an answer she gave in court during the Profumo Affair – he would say that, wouldn't he.JBriskin3 said:
Google is no help in me trying to solve your acronym.DecrepiterJohnL said:
MRDA surely? Otherwise he'd become a lame duck overnight.JBriskin3 said:RE: last thread
It flashed up on CNN that Biden has apparently told allies that he is intending to run in 2024
The point you're making is of course correct.
The Profumo Affair should be part of British folklore. A spy scandal with comic elements. A vengeful Establishment driving Ward to suicide. Walk-on parts for a slum landlord later to be notorious in his own right. The Home Secretary acting ultra vires. Two iconic moments: *that* photograph of Christine Keeler, and MRDA, which is where we came in, answering what may have been the most ill-considered question ever put in cross-examination. And the whole thing ruthlessly weaponised by Labour to end 13 years of Tory hegemony.
I'd also like to know more about the lavender list if that's not the same thing.
Forgot to mention that the Profumo Affair also featured a stately home, nudity, a Cabinet Minister with a huge Johnson (pun intended) and the Royal Family lurking in the background.2 -
The Men in Grey Suits are stirring...
Senior Downing St source says “there is a lot of concern inside the building about the PM....It’s just not working. Cabinet needs to wake up and demand serious changes otherwise it’ll keep getting worse. If they don’t insist, he just won’t do anything about it."
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/14628107033588408381 -
Hell Passage, St. Helen's Passage is a gentrificationAlistairM said:
The Turf is quintessentially Oxford but if you go at a busy time be prepared to sharpen your elbows to get a table. No idea how they get deliveries to it as it is tucked away down down an alley (St. Helen's Passage) and not where it is shown on Google Maps. If out late at night The Varsity Club has a rooftop terrace with stunning views over the city.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
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That's LauraK added to The Truss' Christmas card list.Scott_xP said:The Men in Grey Suits are stirring...
Senior Downing St source says “there is a lot of concern inside the building about the PM....It’s just not working. Cabinet needs to wake up and demand serious changes otherwise it’ll keep getting worse. If they don’t insist, he just won’t do anything about it."
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/14628107033588408380 -
If you like hearty food, the Magdalen Arms on the Iffley Road is very good.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
(Though nb post pandemic, I'd check that all these places are still fully operating.)
I'd avoid Folly Bridge personally, as it's tourist central, particularly in the summer.0 -
And Nadine's shit list...SandyRentool said:That's LauraK added to The Truss' Christmas card list.
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Your sources may be correct. I haven't found confirmation yet. I read it was someone fleeing from another incident. Thus it is probably a little on the early side for specific condemnation. If Biden doesn't condemn any group or individuals involved you have every right to claim inconsistency.MrEd said:OT, looks like the Waukesha SUV incident may have been a BLM supporter driving into the crowd. Funnily enough, Team Biden not saying much on this, unlike some of their previous interest in Wisconsin:
https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/2020/09/02/the-latest-biden-to-visit-wisconsin-now-a-2020-flash-point/0 -
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand offCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.4 -
Ta, I think I'll definitely be going to the Folly Bridge, they have private domes by the river side and the other half loves that kind of stuff.Nigelb said:
If you like hearty food, the Magdalen Arms on the Iffley Road is very good.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
(Though nb post pandemic, I'd check that all these places are still fully operating.)
I'd avoid Folly Bridge personally, as it's tourist central, particularly in the summer.0 -
Erm, six months after second jab means that for age-group based jabees, almost no 50-60 year-olds will have been boosted yet so those statistics will be based mainly on high-risk groups who have more of an incentive, so what are we being shown?rottenborough said:Hugo Gye
@HugoGye
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55m
Uptake of boosters in Flag of England among those eligible, per age group:
50-54: 55%
55-59: 60%
60-64: 59%
65-69: 70%
70-74: 82%
75-79: 91%
80+: 87%
Looks like fears that large numbers of people would opt against getting a booster have proven to be unfounded.0 -
In Summer, the Trout at Godstow is a nice venue.MrEd said:
The White Horse as well and the Blue Boar for pubs. People rave about the refurbished Randolph.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
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My eldest was born when I was 31 and my youngest when I was 40. With hindsight I wish I had been younger for all of them to have that extra energy! I know people are having children later these days but if I were to give one piece of advice to my own children it would be to try and have your children between the ages of 25 and 30.isam said:
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand offCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.2 -
The Trout is good, post lockdown.Sean_F said:
In Summer, the Trout at Godstow is a nice venue.MrEd said:
The White Horse as well and the Blue Boar for pubs. People rave about the refurbished Randolph.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
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I have worked in betting almost my entire working life, and whenever someone talks of a bet they have had, the first thing anyone does is to ask which bookie they had it with - Never had someone refused to say until this episode, which is just incredibly bizarre.Mexicanpete said:
Considering Horse has opened up on here about trying to overcome his mental health issues, I find your regular digs at him somewhat counter productive, perhaps verging on bullying.isam said:
Just had a million pounds on Red Rum to win the 1973 Grand National with a mate!CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're the only one here who seems to think "Starmer is crap" is an opinion worth sharingisam said:Am I the only one on here here nether went to boarding school nor is on an opinion pollster's speed dial?
Ker-ching!!
OGH himself refused to believe me when I said I had backed UKIP to win Thurrock at the 2015 GE, £100 at 16/1 or something) and I had to post the betting slip on here to prove it. I didn't notice anyone sticking up for me then0 -
LOBBY: 'Does the Prime Minister believe there is an unelected and unaccountable "Blob" at the heart of the British establishment that blocks and briefs against any centre right figure looking for a public appointment...'
PMOS: "...I haven't spoken to him today."
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/14628139956273315900 -
44.9K cases. Up about 5K on last week.
Hospitalisations still coming down and deaths also but only slightly.0 -
I thought the current theory was he was making his getaway from another crime. I dare say things will be clearer soon (bearing in mind the time difference).MrEd said:OT, looks like the Waukesha SUV incident may have been a BLM supporter driving into the crowd. Funnily enough, Team Biden not saying much on this, unlike some of their previous interest in Wisconsin:
https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/2020/09/02/the-latest-biden-to-visit-wisconsin-now-a-2020-flash-point/
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Yes, I agree. I would have done, but no one would have me!AlistairM said:
My eldest was born when I was 31 and my youngest when I was 40. With hindsight I wish I had been younger for all of them to have that extra energy! I know people are having children later these days but if I were to give one piece of advice to my own children it would be to try and have your children between the ages of 25 and 30.isam said:
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand offCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.0 -
That's the age I had my kids. Mid 40s. I too wish I'd done it earlier, and I have been far from the perfect father, I also get angry with myself for my mistakesisam said:
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand offCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.
But do I regret being a Dad? No, it has been the most profoundly enriching experience of my life and my daughters are both healthy and, I think, reasonable happy, with much to look forward to (and troubles as well, of course, but that's life)
I'd probably be dead by now, from booze and purposelessness, if I hadn't had kids. They forced me to knuckle down and PROVIDE. I shall be sad when they fledge entirely5 -
Sunak is of course based in Downing Street.SandyRentool said:
That's LauraK added to The Truss' Christmas card list.Scott_xP said:The Men in Grey Suits are stirring...
Senior Downing St source says “there is a lot of concern inside the building about the PM....It’s just not working. Cabinet needs to wake up and demand serious changes otherwise it’ll keep getting worse. If they don’t insist, he just won’t do anything about it."
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isam said:
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand offCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.
Wear it as a badge of honour. Nothing to be ashamed of. If anything you have the added incentive of trying to be healthy and fit whereas if your kids were older you might have turned into a slob (not saying parents who have their kids young are unfit couch potatoes but hopefully you get my drift). I am also a father who had a child in my forties. Not by design but simply the last throw of the IVF dice - we were lucky! Quite simply the best thing that has happened to me - even when I pick him from nursery, I get chills of excitement (like about now!). Best. Thing. Ever!!isam said:
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand offCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.1 -
Remember when the plan was to do these briefings in public?Scott_xP said:LOBBY: 'Does the Prime Minister believe there is an unelected and unaccountable "Blob" at the heart of the British establishment that blocks and briefs against any centre right figure looking for a public appointment...'
PMOS: "...I haven't spoken to him today."
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1462813995627331590
It would have been such fun...0 -
Digging in a bit the PCR positive number is basically static WoW now, the growth is all in LFTs which may be a function of more testing or an increase in kids testing positive at schools. Either way I'm quite pleased that the PCR rate has stabilised already, it should begin falling soon.AlistairM said:44.9K cases. Up about 5K on last week.
Hospitalisations still coming down and deaths also but only slightly.0 -
Fair enough.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ta, I think I'll definitely be going to the Folly Bridge, they have private domes by the river side and the other half loves that kind of stuff.Nigelb said:
If you like hearty food, the Magdalen Arms on the Iffley Road is very good.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am, thank you.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
(Though nb post pandemic, I'd check that all these places are still fully operating.)
I'd avoid Folly Bridge personally, as it's tourist central, particularly in the summer.
You could also put together a hamper in the covered market, and lunch on a punt.
Though not from anywhere near there, as the river is a bit deep for easy navigation.
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My father's hair was white. He was blond in photos with us as small children but don't remember that. He was regularly mistaken for my grandfather. But I was never embarrassed by it. Just took it as normal. Children do.isam said:
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand offCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.
He was ill by the time I left school and never got to see me graduate or indeed do anything other than win a few school and drama prizes and be a tiresome teenager. It is I who feel guilty and regretful at that. Even now so many years later I would give my right arm to have him with me again - even for 5 minutes - for him to be able to see that I turned out OK, to be able to say that I love him, to thank him.
Just treasure your time together and create happy memories for them.8 -
Running the numbers now - the age profile for cases will be the interesting bit.MaxPB said:
Digging in a bit the PCR positive number is basically static WoW now, the growth is all in LFTs which may be a function of more testing or an increase in kids testing positive at schools. Either way I'm quite pleased that the PCR rate has stabilised already, it should begin falling soon.AlistairM said:44.9K cases. Up about 5K on last week.
Hospitalisations still coming down and deaths also but only slightly.0 -
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Thanks, I’ll try my bestCyclefree said:
My father's hair was white. He was blond in photos with us as small children but don't remember that. He was regularly mistaken for my grandfather. But I was never embarrassed by it. Just took it as normal. Children do.isam said:
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand offCyclefree said:
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.isam said:
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrongLeon said:
FptSlackbladder said:Don't you think he looks tired?
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.
He was ill by the time I left school and never got to see me graduate or indeed do anything other than win a few school and drama prizes and be a tiresome teenager. It is I who feel guilty and regretful at that. Even now so many years later I would give my right arm to have him with me again - even for 5 minutes - for him to be able to see that I turned out OK, to be able to say that I love him, to thank him.
Just treasure your time together and create happy memories for them.0 -
And you are like a dog with a bone over the issue. Let it rest, particularly under the circumstances mentioned.isam said:
I have worked in betting almost my entire working life, and whenever someone talks of a bet they have had, the first thing anyone does is to ask which bookie they had it with - Never had someone refused to say until this episode, which is just incredibly bizarre.Mexicanpete said:
Considering Horse has opened up on here about trying to overcome his mental health issues, I find your regular digs at him somewhat counter productive, perhaps verging on bullying.isam said:
Just had a million pounds on Red Rum to win the 1973 Grand National with a mate!CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're the only one here who seems to think "Starmer is crap" is an opinion worth sharingisam said:Am I the only one on here here nether went to boarding school nor is on an opinion pollster's speed dial?
Ker-ching!!
OGH himself refused to believe me when I said I had backed UKIP to win Thurrock at the 2015 GE, £100 at 16/1 or something) and I had to post the betting slip on here to prove it. I didn't notice anyone sticking up for me then0 -
The Govt amendment on social care, due to be voted on at 10pm, makes a significant change to how the cost cap works.
It potentially disadvantages the less well off and those of working age with life long conditions.
I will be voting against it.
Here’s why👇 🧵 (1/3)
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I only reacted to provocation, as you will see if you read the thread.Mexicanpete said:
And you are like a dog with a bone over the issue. Let it rest, particularly under the circumstances mentioned.isam said:
I have worked in betting almost my entire working life, and whenever someone talks of a bet they have had, the first thing anyone does is to ask which bookie they had it with - Never had someone refused to say until this episode, which is just incredibly bizarre.Mexicanpete said:
Considering Horse has opened up on here about trying to overcome his mental health issues, I find your regular digs at him somewhat counter productive, perhaps verging on bullying.isam said:
Just had a million pounds on Red Rum to win the 1973 Grand National with a mate!CorrectHorseBattery said:
You're the only one here who seems to think "Starmer is crap" is an opinion worth sharingisam said:Am I the only one on here here nether went to boarding school nor is on an opinion pollster's speed dial?
Ker-ching!!
OGH himself refused to believe me when I said I had backed UKIP to win Thurrock at the 2015 GE, £100 at 16/1 or something) and I had to post the betting slip on here to prove it. I didn't notice anyone sticking up for me then0 -
Not as big a gentrification as Magpie Lane (between Univ and Oriel) though...IshmaelZ said:
Hell Passage, St. Helen's Passage is a gentrificationAlistairM said:
The Turf is quintessentially Oxford but if you go at a busy time be prepared to sharpen your elbows to get a table. No idea how they get deliveries to it as it is tucked away down down an alley (St. Helen's Passage) and not where it is shown on Google Maps. If out late at night The Varsity Club has a rooftop terrace with stunning views over the city.Fysics_Teacher said:If TSE is still wanting recommendations for places to eat in Oxford then I can suggest The Turf (good luck finding it though), The Kings Arms, and (non pub) the Nosebag.
Today's numbers were a slight disappointment but definitely aren't setting off any alarm bells.MaxPB said:
Digging in a bit the PCR positive number is basically static WoW now, the growth is all in LFTs which may be a function of more testing or an increase in kids testing positive at schools. Either way I'm quite pleased that the PCR rate has stabilised already, it should begin falling soon.AlistairM said:44.9K cases. Up about 5K on last week.
Hospitalisations still coming down and deaths also but only slightly.
This week should be a good test of whether the dry air in winter will make much of a difference.0 -
Sure this is the clip they wanted...
"You lost your notes, you lost your place, you went off on a tangent about Peppa Pig, is everything OK?"
"I think people got the vast majority of the points," says PM Boris Johnson following his speech to the CBI, adding, "I thought it went over well"
https://bbc.in/3oU2wtd https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1462818751921938437/video/10
