1997 - too young 2001 - too drunk and stoned to remember 2005 - LD 2010 - LD (+campained for them) 2015 - disenfanchised 2017 - Still disenfranchised 2019 - Con (tactical)
Oh - and I'll almost certainly be voting Con tactical next time unless I get agoraphobic on the day.
1997 - too young 2001 - too drunk and stoned to remember 2005 - LD 2010 - LD (+campained for them) 2015 - disenfanchised 2017 - Still disenfranchised 2019 - Con (tactical)
I wish my reason for not voting in 2001 was exciting as that lol!
The ‘fleeing a crime scene’ narrative didn’t last long. Where did it come from?
‘JUST IN - Darrell Brooks intentionally drove his vehicle into the Christmas parade in #Waukesha and is charged with 5 counts of intentional homicide, according to the police.’
Its the kids. Boris strikes me as the kind of selfish but charismatic chancer who has always managed to dodge most paternal duties - I don’t mean simply ignoring bastard offspring but always having something more important to do just as the wife needs help with nappies
But this time he can’t dodge. Carrie looks pretty assertive. He’s in the public spotlight. He’s stuck at Number 10. All = a lack of sleep which is ageing him by a decade in a year
I’m doing it right now, hope you’re wrong
I was the child of a man in his fifties. We were never a disruption. Or made to feel like one, more accurately. My father gloried in and loved family life and us.
The only downside is the risk of losing a parent too early. But even the short time I had with my father has sustained me for the rest of my life. So much of what I've learnt and tried to do was from him.
So just love your kids and don't worry about your age. You'll be fine.
I don’t worry about it really, day to day life I love it. Just when I think of how old I will be when they leave school, or that I will be the oldest Dad at Sports Day etc, (I was 44 and 46 when they were born) I hope they aren't embarrassed. If I am feeling inclined to be downbeat, I get angry with myself for not having started earlier as it means I will have less time with them. But if you had said to me when I was 43 with no girlfriend that at 46 I'd be a father of two I would have bit your hand off
That's the age I had my kids. Mid 40s. I too wish I'd done it earlier, and I have been far from the perfect father, I also get angry with myself for my mistakes
But do I regret being a Dad? No, it has been the most profoundly enriching experience of my life and my daughters are both healthy and, I think, reasonable happy, with much to look forward to (and troubles as well, of course, but that's life)
I'd probably be dead by now, from booze and purposelessness, if I hadn't had kids. They forced me to knuckle down and PROVIDE. I shall be sad when they fledge entirely
Opposite with me. Became a father in my 20s and not a good one. Left and then just did the easy stuff - weekends and holidays. Very grateful to my son that he doesn't hold it against me, that in adulthood he likes me and I seem to be important to him.
I found out I was going to be a dad for the first time on my 30th birthday, which was the best birthday present I ever received (only the Lego spaceship I got when I was 10 really comes close). Our third and final child was born when I was 37. Being a dad is really the only important thing in my life.
That's quite a statement. Sure you're a VG one too. Just as well with 3!
It's got more important to me as I've got older. It gives me a lot now and I'm able to give more back to 'it'. 61 v 34 is quite interesting for father/son. I'm not old and he's not young. It's not quite a generation gap. Or rather it is, literally, but it's at the short end.
My own is 88 so there's a perfect symmetry. 88/61/34, equal 27 gap. This allows some 'hall of mirrors' musing which I will not subject you to.
Becoming a parent certainly gives you a new perspective on your own parents. It dawns on you how much they must love you, for one thing.
I’ve never had the chance to vote for my party of choice (OMRLP), so reluctantly I vote Tory.
I might as well declare my interest as well. I voted OMRLP at the 2019 General Election, mainly because I know the candidate well enough to have a pint with him from time to time.
I normally vote Tory in national elections, the exceptions being LibDem at the 1997 GE and Brexit at the 2019 Euro elections. In local elections, I switch between Tory and Lib Dem, depending on local issues.
Looking at RedfieldWilton poll just now, it does not show the widescale condemnation of Boris as seen on here and this is post the rail infrastructure announcements
Indeed he still leads preferred PM to Starmer by 41% to 32%
Should we ask ourselves are we actually reflecting the country, though it has to be accepted the Paterson affair has damaged the conservative party and without which I believe they would lead the pols much as that did before it
I would guess the voting intention of the regular contributers on this site would be 60% Labour, 20% Tory, 10% LD 10% others so not particularly representative.
Gosh. I'd put it at 10% Boris-Tory, 40% non-Boris Tory, 25% LD, 15% Labour, 10% others/undecided.
Yes, there is absolutely no way that 60% of PB posters are voting Labour. It must be that Nerys is just noticing our posts a whole lot more.
If 60% of PB vote Labour at the GE it'll be a majority of about 500.
Yes, I'm struggling to find more than a handful of loyal Labour voters who post regularly on here, plus another handful who may flirt with Labour but probably won't get past first base when the showdown comes.
Many of the current posters who berate this particular government are Tories at heart, aren't they?
I have never voted Tory in my life
In the 11 GEs I have voted in its 10 times LAB 1 time LD
Next GE its anybody but LAB if SKS/ Evans are still in charge
If Boris runs on more levelling up probably Tory any other Tory leader I will vote Green
Looking at RedfieldWilton poll just now, it does not show the widescale condemnation of Boris as seen on here and this is post the rail infrastructure announcements
Indeed he still leads preferred PM to Starmer by 41% to 32%
Should we ask ourselves are we actually reflecting the country, though it has to be accepted the Paterson affair has damaged the conservative party and without which I believe they would lead the pols much as that did before it
I would guess the voting intention of the regular contributers on this site would be 60% Labour, 20% Tory, 10% LD 10% others so not particularly representative.
I'll let more knowledgeable people do the maths, but here's a list of contributors to this thread: You can chalk me down as a tentative SNP for VI. I've made a quick start on some others, apologies if I've misplaced anyone.
>>confirmed / admitted: Farooq = SNP
>>predicted by others: Big_G_NorthWales = Con CorrectHorseBattery = Lab Dura_Ace = Green HYUFD = Con kinabalu = Lab MikeSmithson = LDem NickPalmer = Lab Sunil_Prasannan = Con Theuniondivvie = SNP
Looking at RedfieldWilton poll just now, it does not show the widescale condemnation of Boris as seen on here and this is post the rail infrastructure announcements
Indeed he still leads preferred PM to Starmer by 41% to 32%
Should we ask ourselves are we actually reflecting the country, though it has to be accepted the Paterson affair has damaged the conservative party and without which I believe they would lead the pols much as that did before it
I would guess the voting intention of the regular contributers on this site would be 60% Labour, 20% Tory, 10% LD 10% others so not particularly representative.
I'll let more knowledgeable people do the maths, but here's a list of contributors to this thread: You can chalk me down as a tentative SNP for VI. I've made a quick start on some others, apologies if I've misplaced anyone.
>>confirmed / admitted: Farooq = SNP
>>predicted by others: Big_G_NorthWales = Con CorrectHorseBattery = Lab Dura_Ace = Green HYUFD = Con kinabalu = Lab MikeSmithson = LDem NickPalmer = Lab Sunil_Prasannan = Con Theuniondivvie = SNP
I've voted Labour in every general election since 1997, except for 2001 and 2010 when I was living abroad and didn't vote. The 2005, 2017 and 2019 votes weren't enthusiastic. 1997 was a night to remember though.
Written just after George Bush said he was "working hard to convince the Indians and the Pakis" to talk. https://youtu.be/YAHTdgogL9k?t=49
Re Bush, I don't know its usage in the US but the issue with the word Paki in the UK are down to its legacy usage here in the 70s and 80s, its association with the National Front, violence and intimidation, and the lack of any connection to Pakistani, simply about having darker skin but not being black.
Internationally, particularly if someone is distinguishing between India and Pakistan, I would initially assume the intent is no different to someone using Aussies.
As the article says "Most Britons will instantly associate the word Paki with "bashing", with gangs of skinheads who beat up people because of the colour of their skin."
Though I doubt the word has any such unfortunate association in the USA, I'm still pretty sure it was seen as, well, Bushly indelicate, and certainly undiplomatic.
According to the wiki page of Paki as a slur it's not known as a slur in the US but it was complained about by a Pakistani American journalist, and a Clinton advisor had had to apologise for saying it four years earlier.
It says the only other country where it's been commonly used as a slur is Canada.
I’ve never had the chance to vote for my party of choice (OMRLP), so reluctantly I vote Tory.
I might as well declare my interest as well. I voted OMRLP at the 2019 General Election, mainly because I know the candidate well enough to have a pint with him from time to time.
I normally vote Tory in national elections, the exceptions being LibDem at the 1997 GE and Brexit at the 2019 Euro elections. In local elections, I switch between Tory and Lib Dem, depending on local issues.
I'd cheerfully vote for them if they stood.
Their policies are far saner than, say, the Integrated Rail Plan.
Just watching the news. Even as an 'end of the pier show' people aren't laughing anymore.
For people who like him it's probably quite sad
BBC R4 PM were not interested in the Johnson speech until 5.31. The edit and the narrative was quite positive too. I suspect the BBC TV edits will also be favourable, although over on ITV Bradby will go to town on Johnson I expect.
1997 - too young 2001 - too drunk and stoned to remember 2005 - LD 2010 - LD (+campained for them) 2015 - disenfanchised 2017 - Still disenfranchised 2019 - Con (tactical)
I wish my reason for not voting in 2001 was exciting as that lol!
It might not mean he didn't vote.
I think it'd be more interesting if he did vote, but can't remember who for because he was too drunk and stoned!
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
Having heard about the Prime Minister's "interesting" speech to the CBI, I'm trying to figure out what "Mother Nature does not like working from home" actually means.
On a cold, dark late autumn morning, working at home seems a very attractive option - I suspect the Prime Minister may not have quite grasped Mother Nature's meaning.
In Bulgaria, Radev won the Presidential election run off 67-32 so more convincing than an AV referendum (I mean, it's been more than a decade, why would anyone keep wittering on about it?)
Just watching the news. Even as an 'end of the pier show' people aren't laughing anymore.
For people who like him it's probably quite sad
BBC R4 PM were not interested in the Johnson speech until 5.31. The edit and the narrative was quite positive too. I suspect the BBC TV edits will also be favourable, although over on ITV Bradby will go to town on Johnson I expect.
Pretty excruciating on ITV news earlier.
One problem is that TV is greedy for new material. He can get away with it as an after dinner speaker, as each audience is different but on TV we have seen those gags and gaffes before.
I've voted Labour in every general election since 1997, except for 2001 and 2010 when I was living abroad and didn't vote. The 2005, 2017 and 2019 votes weren't enthusiastic. 1997 was a night to remember though.
What a night!
Even BBC corridors were strewn with empty champagne bottles and party poppers... allegedly...
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
Anyone else unable to see comments on PB.com? Had to come to vanilla to see anything, PB.com just showing me a blank page where the comments should be.
Written just after George Bush said he was "working hard to convince the Indians and the Pakis" to talk. https://youtu.be/YAHTdgogL9k?t=49
Re Bush, I don't know its usage in the US but the issue with the word Paki in the UK are down to its legacy usage here in the 70s and 80s, its association with the National Front, violence and intimidation, and the lack of any connection to Pakistani, simply about having darker skin but not being black.
Internationally, particularly if someone is distinguishing between India and Pakistan, I would initially assume the intent is no different to someone using Aussies.
As the article says "Most Britons will instantly associate the word Paki with "bashing", with gangs of skinheads who beat up people because of the colour of their skin."
Though I doubt the word has any such unfortunate association in the USA, I'm still pretty sure it was seen as, well, Bushly indelicate, and certainly undiplomatic.
According to the wiki page of Paki as a slur it's not known as a slur in the US but it was complained about by a Pakistani American journalist, and a Clinton advisor had had to apologise for saying it four years earlier.
It says the only other country where it's been commonly used as a slur is Canada.
I'm probably one of the only three or four PBers who have have been called a Paki in this country, it's not a nice word in this country. In the same way I would never describe fans of Tottenham Hotspur as 'Yids' even though that's what plenty of them call themselves.
Then again I remember shocking a few Americans when I used the word oriental (as in the Mandarin Oriental hotel), apparently that's a racial slur in America.
Anyone else unable to see comments on PB.com? Had to come to vanilla to see anything, PB.com just showing me a blank page where the comments should be.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
Be honest, you're just sore about that last match, aren't you?
Nah, it is the years of abuse I've received from the Welsh, telling me to stick the sweet chariot where the sun doesn't shine is one of the nicer things they've said to me.
Anyone else unable to see comments on PB.com? Had to come to vanilla to see anything, PB.com just showing me a blank page where the comments should be.
Anyone else unable to see comments on PB.com? Had to come to vanilla to see anything, PB.com just showing me a blank page where the comments should be.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Anyone else unable to see comments on PB.com? Had to come to vanilla to see anything, PB.com just showing me a blank page where the comments should be.
Same.
Got to admire the resilience of PB though. Website not working? Well use the other website!
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
He has clearly learned nothing from Kermit the Frog.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Disraeli Gladstone Lloyd George Churchill Macmillan Wilson Thatcher Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
Be honest, you're just sore about that last match, aren't you?
Nah, it is the years of abuse I've received from the Welsh, telling me to stick the sweet chariot where the sun doesn't shine is one of the nicer things they've said to me.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
It was noticeably 'larier' than normal at Twickenham for the England Australia game the Saturday before last. A lot of people seemed to be so drunk they couldn't really follow the match. I assumed it was the late kick-off but who knows.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
One of the hopes of BM BoJo was that he would do the Prince Hal to King Henry thing. That the clueless bluffer act was an act, and once he had a huge majority, a great National Leader would emerge.
As the months go by, it's increasingly hard to sustain that hope.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
Be honest, you're just sore about that last match, aren't you?
Nah, it is the years of abuse I've received from the Welsh, telling me to stick the sweet chariot where the sun doesn't shine is one of the nicer things they've said to me.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Disraeli Gladstone Lloyd George Churchill Macmillan Wilson Thatcher Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
Some unfortunate examples there. Gladstone, who went out pulling, er, preaching to prostitutes. Macmillan, who wore a huge toy fur hat to visit Russia. Lloyd George who would famously shag absolutely anything female.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
It was noticeably 'larier' than normal at Twickenham for the England Australia game the Saturday before last. A lot of people seemed to be so drunk they couldn't really follow the match. I assumed it was the late kick-off but who knows.
2002 at Twickenham was where I saw the drunkest man ever.
He was at the urinals, he took out what was his todger but was in fact the bottom of his shirt, and ended up pissing on himself, totally oblivious to what he was doing.
Walked out, the front of his trousers and shoes absolutely drenched in piss and he didn't even know.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Disraeli Gladstone Lloyd George Churchill Macmillan Wilson Thatcher Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
Some unfortunate examples there. Gladstone, who went out pulling, er, preaching to prostitutes. Macmillan, who wore a huge toy fur hat to visit Russia. Lloyd George who would famously shag absolutely anything female.
Not saints, but serious grown up politicians,with something serious to say, taken seriously.
The ‘fleeing a crime scene’ narrative didn’t last long. Where did it come from?
‘JUST IN - Darrell Brooks intentionally drove his vehicle into the Christmas parade in #Waukesha and is charged with 5 counts of intentional homicide, according to the police.’
Written just after George Bush said he was "working hard to convince the Indians and the Pakis" to talk. https://youtu.be/YAHTdgogL9k?t=49
Re Bush, I don't know its usage in the US but the issue with the word Paki in the UK are down to its legacy usage here in the 70s and 80s, its association with the National Front, violence and intimidation, and the lack of any connection to Pakistani, simply about having darker skin but not being black.
Internationally, particularly if someone is distinguishing between India and Pakistan, I would initially assume the intent is no different to someone using Aussies.
As the article says "Most Britons will instantly associate the word Paki with "bashing", with gangs of skinheads who beat up people because of the colour of their skin."
Though I doubt the word has any such unfortunate association in the USA, I'm still pretty sure it was seen as, well, Bushly indelicate, and certainly undiplomatic.
According to the wiki page of Paki as a slur it's not known as a slur in the US but it was complained about by a Pakistani American journalist, and a Clinton advisor had had to apologise for saying it four years earlier.
It says the only other country where it's been commonly used as a slur is Canada.
I'm probably one of the only three or four PBers who have have been called a Paki in this country, it's not a nice word in this country. In the same way I would never describe fans of Tottenham Hotspur as 'Yids' even though that's what plenty of them call themselves.
Then again I remember shocking a few Americans when I used the word oriental (as in the Mandarin Oriental hotel), apparently that's a racial slur in America.
Context is important in these things.
I had an Indian boss who told me about when he'd been chased by "Paki bashing" skinheads in the 80s soon after moving here from India via college (Stanford, I think) in the USA, he said he was too quick to get bashed but it was a hell of a shock to discover that he was a Paki in England.
Funnily enough the time I heard the word the most used was with him in a bar in Mumbai watching an ODI between India and Pakistan. Everyone was talking about the cricket and everyone I could hear talking in English would say "the Pakis" instead of Pakistan. It clearly wasn't meant offensively at all.
The ‘fleeing a crime scene’ narrative didn’t last long. Where did it come from?
‘JUST IN - Darrell Brooks intentionally drove his vehicle into the Christmas parade in #Waukesha and is charged with 5 counts of intentional homicide, according to the police.’
It came from the police.
In all senses, judging by the fact he was on bail and clearly shouldn't have been.
A horrible tragedy that will only look worse if it turns out to have been an avoidable horrible tragedy.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
It was noticeably 'larier' than normal at Twickenham for the England Australia game the Saturday before last. A lot of people seemed to be so drunk they couldn't really follow the match. I assumed it was the late kick-off but who knows.
2002 at Twickenham was where I saw the drunkest man ever.
He was at the urinals, he took out what was his todger but was in fact the bottom of his shirt, and ended up pissing on himself, totally oblivious to what he was doing.
Walked out, the front of his trousers and shoes absolutely drenched in piss and he didn't even know.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
It was noticeably 'larier' than normal at Twickenham for the England Australia game the Saturday before last. A lot of people seemed to be so drunk they couldn't really follow the match. I assumed it was the late kick-off but who knows.
2002 at Twickenham was where I saw the drunkest man ever.
He was at the urinals, he took out what was his todger but was in fact the bottom of his shirt, and ended up pissing on himself, totally oblivious to what he was doing.
Walked out, the front of his trousers and shoes absolutely drenched in piss and he didn't even know.
Those bloody away fans, eh!
Home fan, it was the South Africa match where we battered them 53-3 (I think)
Imagine the reaction if it had been Ed "Bacon Sandwich" Milliband making the Peppa Pig speech to the FBI. Imagine the end of the political world, an embarrassment to the office and to the country which means he MUST RESIGN.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Disraeli Gladstone Lloyd George Churchill Macmillan Wilson Thatcher Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
Forget the greats. Let's consider the disappointments we have recently had as PM.
May. She couldn't take her party with her, but she was prepared to stand there and take the abuse to try to promote her vision of the future. And if we're honest, her vision was more coherent and better than that of the incumbent.
Cameron. Made one epoch-defining mistake, but open to working with others, able to speak without notes, willing to work through the essay crisis.
Brown. At some level mad, and deliberately chose to ignore some red flashing elephants in the room. But clearly clever and on top of stuff.
Major. Had the misfortune to hold the exploding parcel when the music stopped. But got more done than you might think, and the epitome of decently keeping buggering on.
None of them great PMs. But I'd have any of them back in a heartbeat, because the incumbent is just painful to watch.
The ‘fleeing a crime scene’ narrative didn’t last long. Where did it come from?
‘JUST IN - Darrell Brooks intentionally drove his vehicle into the Christmas parade in #Waukesha and is charged with 5 counts of intentional homicide, according to the police.’
It came from the police.
In all senses, judging by the fact he was on bail and clearly shouldn't have been.
A horrible tragedy that will only look worse if it turns out to have been an avoidable horrible tragedy.
If it was intentional, it might not have made much difference, apart from the timing and the particular people he killed. More concerning is the apparent globalisation of the "drive into a crowd" murder technique we've seen in France and Britain.
Written just after George Bush said he was "working hard to convince the Indians and the Pakis" to talk. https://youtu.be/YAHTdgogL9k?t=49
Re Bush, I don't know its usage in the US but the issue with the word Paki in the UK are down to its legacy usage here in the 70s and 80s, its association with the National Front, violence and intimidation, and the lack of any connection to Pakistani, simply about having darker skin but not being black.
Internationally, particularly if someone is distinguishing between India and Pakistan, I would initially assume the intent is no different to someone using Aussies.
As the article says "Most Britons will instantly associate the word Paki with "bashing", with gangs of skinheads who beat up people because of the colour of their skin."
Though I doubt the word has any such unfortunate association in the USA, I'm still pretty sure it was seen as, well, Bushly indelicate, and certainly undiplomatic.
According to the wiki page of Paki as a slur it's not known as a slur in the US but it was complained about by a Pakistani American journalist, and a Clinton advisor had had to apologise for saying it four years earlier.
It says the only other country where it's been commonly used as a slur is Canada.
I'm probably one of the only three or four PBers who have have been called a Paki in this country, it's not a nice word in this country. In the same way I would never describe fans of Tottenham Hotspur as 'Yids' even though that's what plenty of them call themselves.
Then again I remember shocking a few Americans when I used the word oriental (as in the Mandarin Oriental hotel), apparently that's a racial slur in America.
Context is important in these things.
I had an Indian boss who told me about when he'd been chased by "Paki bashing" skinheads in the 80s soon after moving here from India via college (Stanford, I think) in the USA, he said he was too quick to get bashed but it was a hell of a shock to discover that he was a Paki in England.
Funnily enough the time I heard the word the most used was with him in a bar in Mumbai watching an ODI between India and Pakistan. Everyone was talking about the cricket and everyone I could hear talking in English would say "the Pakis" instead of Pakistan. It clearly wasn't meant offensively at all.
I have a recollection that I once heard Nasser Hussain refer to the opposing team as "The Pakis".
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Disraeli Gladstone Lloyd George Churchill Macmillan Wilson Thatcher Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
Some unfortunate examples there. Gladstone, who went out pulling, er, preaching to prostitutes. Macmillan, who wore a huge toy fur hat to visit Russia. Lloyd George who would famously shag absolutely anything female.
Yeah, I though that. Especially Lloyd George who was a really was an old rascal and a charlatan.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
It was noticeably 'larier' than normal at Twickenham for the England Australia game the Saturday before last. A lot of people seemed to be so drunk they couldn't really follow the match. I assumed it was the late kick-off but who knows.
2002 at Twickenham was where I saw the drunkest man ever.
He was at the urinals, he took out what was his todger but was in fact the bottom of his shirt, and ended up pissing on himself, totally oblivious to what he was doing.
Walked out, the front of his trousers and shoes absolutely drenched in piss and he didn't even know.
Those bloody away fans, eh!
Home fan, it was the South Africa match where we battered them 53-3 (I think)
Yes, I remember it well can't remember it at all.
(Although I did get very wet shoes that day for some reason.)
Anyone else unable to see comments on PB.com? Had to come to vanilla to see anything, PB.com just showing me a blank page where the comments should be.
The ‘fleeing a crime scene’ narrative didn’t last long. Where did it come from?
‘JUST IN - Darrell Brooks intentionally drove his vehicle into the Christmas parade in #Waukesha and is charged with 5 counts of intentional homicide, according to the police.’
It came from the police.
In all senses, judging by the fact he was on bail and clearly shouldn't have been.
A horrible tragedy that will only look worse if it turns out to have been an avoidable horrible tragedy.
If it was intentional, it might not have made much difference, apart from the timing and the particular people he killed. More concerning is the apparent globalisation of the "drive into a crowd" murder technique we've seen in France and Britain.
He overtook a lot of the marching bands, passing spectators, before striking some. If he was trying to kill then why dodge the first ones?
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
It was noticeably 'larier' than normal at Twickenham for the England Australia game the Saturday before last. A lot of people seemed to be so drunk they couldn't really follow the match. I assumed it was the late kick-off but who knows.
2002 at Twickenham was where I saw the drunkest man ever.
He was at the urinals, he took out what was his todger but was in fact the bottom of his shirt, and ended up pissing on himself, totally oblivious to what he was doing.
Walked out, the front of his trousers and shoes absolutely drenched in piss and he didn't even know.
Those bloody away fans, eh!
Home fan, it was the South Africa match where we battered them 53-3 (I think)
Yes, I remember it well can't remember it at all.
(Although I did get very wet shoes that day for some reason.)
Looking at RedfieldWilton poll just now, it does not show the widescale condemnation of Boris as seen on here and this is post the rail infrastructure announcements
Indeed he still leads preferred PM to Starmer by 41% to 32%
Should we ask ourselves are we actually reflecting the country, though it has to be accepted the Paterson affair has damaged the conservative party and without which I believe they would lead the pols much as that did before it
I would guess the voting intention of the regular contributers on this site would be 60% Labour, 20% Tory, 10% LD 10% others so not particularly representative.
Gosh. I'd put it at 10% Boris-Tory, 40% non-Boris Tory, 25% LD, 15% Labour, 10% others/undecided.
Yes, there is absolutely no way that 60% of PB posters are voting Labour. It must be that Nerys is just noticing our posts a whole lot more.
If 60% of PB vote Labour at the GE it'll be a majority of about 500.
Yes, I'm struggling to find more than a handful of loyal Labour voters who post regularly on here, plus another handful who may flirt with Labour but probably won't get past first base when the showdown comes.
Many of the current posters who berate this particular government are Tories at heart, aren't they?
I have never voted Tory in my life
In the 11 GEs I have voted in its 10 times LAB 1 time LD
Next GE its anybody but LAB if SKS/ Evans are still in charge
If Boris runs on more levelling up probably Tory any other Tory leader I will vote Green
What's your problem with SKS? He's pretty crap but a huge improvement on Corbyn and his cabal of halfwits. Let's be honest, the Labour cupboard is pretty bare at the moment. Ed Milliband perhaps but he's a retread. The rest are pretty sh*te.
Written just after George Bush said he was "working hard to convince the Indians and the Pakis" to talk. https://youtu.be/YAHTdgogL9k?t=49
Re Bush, I don't know its usage in the US but the issue with the word Paki in the UK are down to its legacy usage here in the 70s and 80s, its association with the National Front, violence and intimidation, and the lack of any connection to Pakistani, simply about having darker skin but not being black.
Internationally, particularly if someone is distinguishing between India and Pakistan, I would initially assume the intent is no different to someone using Aussies.
As the article says "Most Britons will instantly associate the word Paki with "bashing", with gangs of skinheads who beat up people because of the colour of their skin."
Though I doubt the word has any such unfortunate association in the USA, I'm still pretty sure it was seen as, well, Bushly indelicate, and certainly undiplomatic.
According to the wiki page of Paki as a slur it's not known as a slur in the US but it was complained about by a Pakistani American journalist, and a Clinton advisor had had to apologise for saying it four years earlier.
It says the only other country where it's been commonly used as a slur is Canada.
I'm probably one of the only three or four PBers who have have been called a Paki in this country, it's not a nice word in this country. In the same way I would never describe fans of Tottenham Hotspur as 'Yids' even though that's what plenty of them call themselves.
Then again I remember shocking a few Americans when I used the word oriental (as in the Mandarin Oriental hotel), apparently that's a racial slur in America.
Context is important in these things.
Last time I was called a "Paki c***" was (of all places) on Magdalene Bridge in Cambridge one evening in 2005 when I was walking home from work. (I worked in Cambridge 2004 to 2007)
The ‘fleeing a crime scene’ narrative didn’t last long. Where did it come from?
‘JUST IN - Darrell Brooks intentionally drove his vehicle into the Christmas parade in #Waukesha and is charged with 5 counts of intentional homicide, according to the police.’
It came from the police.
In all senses, judging by the fact he was on bail and clearly shouldn't have been.
A horrible tragedy that will only look worse if it turns out to have been an avoidable horrible tragedy.
If it was intentional, it might not have made much difference, apart from the timing and the particular people he killed. More concerning is the apparent globalisation of the "drive into a crowd" murder technique we've seen in France and Britain.
He overtook a lot of the marching bands, passing spectators, before striking some. If he was trying to kill then why dodge the first ones?
I guess that we will find out in time.
I suppose that driving past a lot of the parade is why police thought he might be trying to escape from some other crime. We might never find out, even assuming there is a rational explanation.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Disraeli Gladstone Lloyd George Churchill Macmillan Wilson Thatcher Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
Some unfortunate examples there. Gladstone, who went out pulling, er, preaching to prostitutes. Macmillan, who wore a huge toy fur hat to visit Russia. Lloyd George who would famously shag absolutely anything female.
Yeah, I though that. Especially Lloyd George who was a really was an old rascal and a charlatan.
And yet dealt with World War 1. The point is now to claim previous PMs were virtuous or to endorse their private lives. It is to say that the job of PM use to matter and was worth taking seriously.
The current incumbent treats it as a bit of a laugh, like a warm up act for a headline act that never a comes.
I keep on telling you the Welsh rugby union fans are savages, further proof, although this applies to the Welsh as a whole.
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
It was noticeably 'larier' than normal at Twickenham for the England Australia game the Saturday before last. A lot of people seemed to be so drunk they couldn't really follow the match. I assumed it was the late kick-off but who knows.
2002 at Twickenham was where I saw the drunkest man ever.
He was at the urinals, he took out what was his todger but was in fact the bottom of his shirt, and ended up pissing on himself, totally oblivious to what he was doing.
Walked out, the front of his trousers and shoes absolutely drenched in piss and he didn't even know.
Those bloody away fans, eh!
Home fan, it was the South Africa match where we battered them 53-3 (I think)
Yes, I remember it well can't remember it at all.
(Although I did get very wet shoes that day for some reason.)
Do you remember the day with warm feelings?
I just remember being surprised by @TSE staring at my... shirt tail.
Looking at RedfieldWilton poll just now, it does not show the widescale condemnation of Boris as seen on here and this is post the rail infrastructure announcements
Indeed he still leads preferred PM to Starmer by 41% to 32%
Should we ask ourselves are we actually reflecting the country, though it has to be accepted the Paterson affair has damaged the conservative party and without which I believe they would lead the pols much as that did before it
I would guess the voting intention of the regular contributers on this site would be 60% Labour, 20% Tory, 10% LD 10% others so not particularly representative.
Gosh. I'd put it at 10% Boris-Tory, 40% non-Boris Tory, 25% LD, 15% Labour, 10% others/undecided.
Yes, there is absolutely no way that 60% of PB posters are voting Labour. It must be that Nerys is just noticing our posts a whole lot more.
If 60% of PB vote Labour at the GE it'll be a majority of about 500.
Yes, I'm struggling to find more than a handful of loyal Labour voters who post regularly on here, plus another handful who may flirt with Labour but probably won't get past first base when the showdown comes.
Many of the current posters who berate this particular government are Tories at heart, aren't they?
I have never voted Tory in my life
In the 11 GEs I have voted in its 10 times LAB 1 time LD
Next GE its anybody but LAB if SKS/ Evans are still in charge
If Boris runs on more levelling up probably Tory any other Tory leader I will vote Green
Mate, if you think Boris is going to do any 'levelling up' you are being way beyond niave. What he runs on is irrelevant.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Disraeli Gladstone Lloyd George Churchill Macmillan Wilson Thatcher Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
Some unfortunate examples there. Gladstone, who went out pulling, er, preaching to prostitutes. Macmillan, who wore a huge toy fur hat to visit Russia. Lloyd George who would famously shag absolutely anything female.
Yeah, I though that. Especially Lloyd George who was a really was an old rascal and a charlatan.
And yet dealt with World War 1. The point is now to claim previous PMs were virtuous or to endorse their private lives. It is to say that the job of PM use to matter and was worth taking seriously.
The current incumbent treats it as a bit of a laugh, like a warm up act for a headline act that never a comes.
He's been allowed to spend his whole life succeeding as the classroom clown. He knows no other mode and is capable of none.
I had to watch an episode once. I have some sympathy for those with young children... even Boris.
The Baby Shark song is the worst thing young children inflict on us.
Young children don't inflict it on anyone. They would never have heard it had adults not introduced them to it in the first place.
You clearly have no idea of the torture of enforced repetition. For me it was Postman Pat, whose name can still, two decades on, reduced me to a quivering jelly.
There will be no change to tariffs and the energy price cap will still apply to bills.
Does this mean that fixed rate deals will be honoured? I bloody well hope not.
I think Bulb only had a single variable tariff; their prices bounced up and down quite a bit in response to market changes. (I was with them for the relatively green gas.) It was one of the things that made them a bit more robust than the first round of suppliers that went to the wall. But if the cap is lower then the market rate, then they're stuffed.
The ‘fleeing a crime scene’ narrative didn’t last long. Where did it come from?
‘JUST IN - Darrell Brooks intentionally drove his vehicle into the Christmas parade in #Waukesha and is charged with 5 counts of intentional homicide, according to the police.’
It came from the police.
Did it? Not sure. It's very opaque
CNN were trotting out the "not terrorism, not related to Rittenhouse" narrative as soon as they could
And it all feels like premature lies now
Who do you believe if the mainstream media simply lie? This is why Fake News grows on both extremes. Democracy is fucked by social media: discuss
I had to watch an episode once. I have some sympathy for those with young children... even Boris.
The Baby Shark song is the worst thing young children inflict on us.
Young children don't inflict it on anyone. They would never have heard it had adults not introduced them to it in the first place.
You clearly have no idea of the torture of enforced repetition. For me it was Postman Pat, whose name can still, two decades on, reduced me to a quivering jelly.
Legitimately has been used as a form of torture, if memory serves.
Notable about the "hands up if you've been to Peppa Pig World" segment of the PM's speech to the CBI (fuxsake...). He was lost again. Pages being sifted through. Winging it. Again.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
Disraeli Gladstone Lloyd George Churchill Macmillan Wilson Thatcher Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
Forget the greats. Let's consider the disappointments we have recently had as PM.
May. She couldn't take her party with her, but she was prepared to stand there and take the abuse to try to promote her vision of the future. And if we're honest, her vision was more coherent and better than that of the incumbent.
Cameron. Made one epoch-defining mistake, but open to working with others, able to speak without notes, willing to work through the essay crisis.
Brown. At some level mad, and deliberately chose to ignore some red flashing elephants in the room. But clearly clever and on top of stuff.
Major. Had the misfortune to hold the exploding parcel when the music stopped. But got more done than you might think, and the epitome of decently keeping buggering on.
None of them great PMs. But I'd have any of them back in a heartbeat, because the incumbent is just painful to watch.
Boris is better than all of those. He wins. He would never make such a major fuck up as:
1. May. Social care, nearly losing to Corbyn, NI backstop, eating chips
2. Cameron's EU referendum, OMFG
3. Brown. Botched election call, the endless stupid Blair feud
4. Major. Being a europhile twat again and again and, still, again
I'm quite serious. Boris has already proven himself a better PM than any of them by winning as mayor twice, winning the referendum, winning the election (with a huge majority), winning the vaccine race, and, it looks like - God willing - winning the Freedom Day Handicap and taking the risk on a summer opening
Boris is a risk taker. A selfish, shambolic wanker of a risk taker, but a risk taker. And he wins. That. in politics and life, counts for a LOT, as Napoleon noted
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‘JUST IN - Darrell Brooks intentionally drove his vehicle into the Christmas parade in #Waukesha and is charged with 5 counts of intentional homicide, according to the police.’
No problem. I'm disillusioned anyway.
For people who like him it's probably quite sad
I normally vote Tory in national elections, the exceptions being LibDem at the 1997 GE and Brexit at the 2019 Euro elections. In local elections, I switch between Tory and Lib Dem, depending on local issues.
In the 11 GEs I have voted in its 10 times LAB 1 time LD
Next GE its anybody but LAB if SKS/ Evans are still in charge
If Boris runs on more levelling up probably Tory any other Tory leader I will vote Green
I wonder if you'll take all this info on, or hide for about a month!
Though I doubt the word has any such unfortunate association in the USA, I'm still pretty sure it was seen as, well, Bushly indelicate, and certainly undiplomatic.
According to the wiki page of Paki as a slur it's not known as a slur in the US but it was complained about by a Pakistani American journalist, and a Clinton advisor had had to apologise for saying it four years earlier.
It says the only other country where it's been commonly used as a slur is Canada.
Remind you of anyone else?
Their policies are far saner than, say, the Integrated Rail Plan.
I think it'd be more interesting if he did vote, but can't remember who for because he was too drunk and stoned!
Drunk Wales fan vomits on six-year-old boy leaving him 'in floods of tears'
Officials admit to concerns about levels of drunkenness, making alcohol bans a future possibility
A young Wales rugby supporter attending his first match was left traumatised after a drunk fan vomited on him during Saturday's game against Australia.
Six-year-old supporter Joey was sitting with his parents in the upper tier of the Principality Stadium when he was vomited on by a supporter in the seats behind him, covering the young boy's back, his coat and the floor and leaving Joey in "floods of tears".
Joey's mother, Sophie Delaney, told the BBC that the drunk fan did not say a word afterwards and appeared unaware of what they had done, adding that the supporter was "slumped over his seat and obviously very, very drunk".
The incident was referred to matchday stewards with the Welsh Rugby Union now investigating the steward's report.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2021/11/22/drunk-wales-fan-vomits-six-year-old-boy-leaving-traumatised/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr
Having heard about the Prime Minister's "interesting" speech to the CBI, I'm trying to figure out what "Mother Nature does not like working from home" actually means.
On a cold, dark late autumn morning, working at home seems a very attractive option - I suspect the Prime Minister may not have quite grasped Mother Nature's meaning.
In Bulgaria, Radev won the Presidential election run off 67-32 so more convincing than an AV referendum (I mean, it's been more than a decade, why would anyone keep wittering on about it?)
One problem is that TV is greedy for new material. He can get away with it as an after dinner speaker, as each audience is different but on TV we have seen those gags and gaffes before.
Even BBC corridors were strewn with empty champagne bottles and party poppers... allegedly...
Then again I remember shocking a few Americans when I used the word oriental (as in the Mandarin Oriental hotel), apparently that's a racial slur in America.
Context is important in these things.
Got worse since we won the world cup.
This isn't Labour vs Tory. This is what image you are supposed to have as Prime Minister.
I have some sympathy for those with young children... even Boris.
Gladstone
Lloyd George
Churchill
Macmillan
Wilson
Thatcher
Blair
Now some bumbling fool blathering on about Peppa Pig.
We used to matter as a country. It used to matter who was PM, what they did and how they did it.
Or are you referring to 2003?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w8QEWA8wGM
As the months go by, it's increasingly hard to sustain that hope.
He was at the urinals, he took out what was his todger but was in fact the bottom of his shirt, and ended up pissing on himself, totally oblivious to what he was doing.
Walked out, the front of his trousers and shoes absolutely drenched in piss and he didn't even know.
Funnily enough the time I heard the word the most used was with him in a bar in Mumbai watching an ODI between India and Pakistan. Everyone was talking about the cricket and everyone I could hear talking in English would say "the Pakis" instead of Pakistan. It clearly wasn't meant offensively at all.
A horrible tragedy that will only look worse if it turns out to have been an avoidable horrible tragedy.
Imagine if it had been Jezbollah...
“I’m starting to get concerned,” added the Tory MP. “Supporters who were hitherto reliable are getting jittery.”
https://www.ft.com/content/a702c1f8-fcc1-436d-afc0-37cf660e830d
May. She couldn't take her party with her, but she was prepared to stand there and take the abuse to try to promote her vision of the future. And if we're honest, her vision was more coherent and better than that of the incumbent.
Cameron. Made one epoch-defining mistake, but open to working with others, able to speak without notes, willing to work through the essay crisis.
Brown. At some level mad, and deliberately chose to ignore some red flashing elephants in the room. But clearly clever and on top of stuff.
Major. Had the misfortune to hold the exploding parcel when the music stopped. But got more done than you might think, and the epitome of decently keeping buggering on.
None of them great PMs. But I'd have any of them back in a heartbeat, because the incumbent is just painful to watch.
(Although I did get very wet shoes that day for some reason.)
I guess that we will find out in time.
The current incumbent treats it as a bit of a laugh, like a warm up act for a headline act that never a comes.
There will be no change to tariffs and the energy price cap will still apply to bills.
Does this mean that fixed rate deals will be honoured? I bloody well hope not.
Someone paging @rcs1000 ?
So no, they won't be (or else I'll be suing someone).
For me it was Postman Pat, whose name can still, two decades on, reduced me to a quivering jelly.
But if they're stuffed, who isn't?
CNN were trotting out the "not terrorism, not related to Rittenhouse" narrative as soon as they could
And it all feels like premature lies now
Who do you believe if the mainstream media simply lie? This is why Fake News grows on both extremes. Democracy is fucked by social media: discuss
Ain't no mountain high enough...
To keep me from pushing you off it
1. May. Social care, nearly losing to Corbyn, NI backstop, eating chips
2. Cameron's EU referendum, OMFG
3. Brown. Botched election call, the endless stupid Blair feud
4. Major. Being a europhile twat again and again and, still, again
I'm quite serious. Boris has already proven himself a better PM than any of them by winning as mayor twice, winning the referendum, winning the election (with a huge majority), winning the vaccine race, and, it looks like - God willing - winning the Freedom Day Handicap and taking the risk on a summer opening
Boris is a risk taker. A selfish, shambolic wanker of a risk taker, but a risk taker. And he wins. That. in politics and life, counts for a LOT, as Napoleon noted
Post Postman Pat trauma is quite enough for me.