EX-PBER DAVID HERDSON JOINS THE YORKSHIRE PARTY – politicalbetting.com
EX-PBER DAVID HERDSON JOINS THE YORKSHIRE PARTY – politicalbetting.com
These are his reasons:
0
This discussion has been closed.
EX-PBER DAVID HERDSON JOINS THE YORKSHIRE PARTY – politicalbetting.com
These are his reasons:
Comments
First.
However, perhaps there's another, better, timelier alternative - invading Yorkshire!
In Yorkshire.
Yorkshire has just been utterly screwed by the Integrated Rail Plan, with basic connectivity improvements not even in scope of a plan that reaches out to 2043. Labour did nowt, Tories are doing nowt, why vote for either?
I've said for a while that the people who abandoned Labour for Brexit and the Tories will then need another new home as the betrayal becomes clear. Today was a Big Step on their journey in recognising they have been screwed.
All hail the Yorkshire Party, your time has come.
Even if the answer is, not much, could it be that DH's defection to YP at least suggests that a significant stratum of opinion leaders in the North are also swinging in the same direction, at least in the short-term?
We would swifty move from 'Scotland is being ignored' under PM Boris to 'England is being ignored' under a PM Starmer, especially if England still had a Conservative majority and Starmer was reliant on the SNP to get legislation through.
It would be worse for England as it would not have its own equivalent of Holyrood
Let’s look at the idea of more tracks between Leeds and Manchester. At the points they are needed housing and industry sit alongside the existing tracks to the extent that you would need to buy 100s of homes just to add a mile of track.
That way we get real localism
https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1461399343928422409
This time, uniquely, we were assured it would be pristine.
Tracey Brabin runs what is effectively “Greater Leeds-Bradford” and Dan Jarvis “Greater Sheffield”.
All they need is someone to run “York and the North Riding”, and “Greater Hull”.
Oh, and some actual money / authority.
The West Lothian question has never really been an issue since devolution in 1999 as we have either had a New Labour government with a majority in England or a Conservative government or Conservative led government from 2010-15 and 2017-19 with a majority in England too.
As soon as we do get a Labour minority government without a majority in England, which current polls suggest is very possible, it will become a major issue in England, especially as is likely Starmer would require the SNP to vote on English laws in return for indyref2 and devomax
Incidentally, a fiercely-fought Town Council by-election in my ward of Binscombe tonight - Tories vs Greens (a Green councillor stood down due to illness, and Labour and LibDems as coalition partners decided to let them have a clear run). Jeremy Hunt has been taking an active interest.
Edit: but yes, definitely Home Rule within the UK.
Perhaps to short-circuit this danger, HMG should invest the moneys saved by screwing the North, into a 22nd-century pneumatic tube service for the Southwest?
Victoria Station to Land's End in 15 minutes - wooooooosh!
52% of Leave voters also back an English Parliament
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44208859
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_independence
Essentially, it's a new Trent station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_railway_station
This new plan is not as good as the original for a piece of national infrastructure; it may well end up being better for Derby, Nottingham and perhaps Leicester.
Dammit, you're a unionist. and a conservative. You should believe in MPs' bums on seats being the determinant. And MPs from all over the UK for UK-wide matters.
The individual policies are a different matter. You're just fantasising.
Otherwise, it wouldn’t work for the same reason the Prussian government didn’t work for Germany.
I never thought I would say this but I agree with Roger’s post 100%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44208859
Don't see any particular reason to vote for them next time, mind.
And as for today, the data you adduce point to a minority of Tories now wanting an English Pmt (almost certainly).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-59333321
From a purely political standpoint, it probably does help the Tories:
- who is pissed off - politically engaged urban types who would never vote Labour
- what does it stop - London commuters moving north to take advantage of cheaper house prices - probably vote Labour anyway but would push urban locals to the suburbs where arguably they would dilute Tory majorities
- who is pleased - voters who stand in the way of the line but who wouldn’t benefit
If Starmer becomes PM with SNP confidence and supply I would expect a majority of Tory MPs to move to back an English Parliament within a few years
Olaf should have been saying "let's go bring back summer".
Herdson for Mayor!
That's like the Tory Party suddenly deciding Brexit was a bad idea.
If we are going to have a Federal UK in all but name then we need an English Parliament with the same powers Holyrood, Stormont and Cardiff have.
Otherwise scrap Holyrood, Stormont and Cardiff and restore Westminster as the only Parliament for the whole Union of the UK
I fear that Wessex Nationalism would not be a serious contender, although we do need some way of expressing our reservations about London's dominance in the South and West.
Also, on a specific point of fact: you're forgetting the many more Remainers who dont' back one. They have to be added in the balance too.
Though we do get a good turnout at the Christmas party from a diverse department. Santa arrived with bhangra dancing reindeer...
The few 2016 Remainers still voting Tory like me will be the ones most likely to back an English Parliament like me and the Leaver majority within the Tory party
"BNO Newsroom
@BNODesk
BREAKING: Austria's Salzburg and Upper Austria expanding lockdown to include vaccinated people
4:03 PM · Nov 18, 2021·TweetDeck"
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1461364403173924877
Would it have made any different if The Left had not gotten their portion of seats? As I recall they scraped over the line by the barest of margins.
Namely having a serious sub-national government with well over half of the national territory, population, economy, etc.
Which is one reason why the Bundesrepublik consists of ländern groß und klein, similar in this respect to US or Brazil.
He lives in a Spockian fantasy of pointless statistics.
He is also a total fucking hypocrite
That's important.
It also shows he's somewhat hypocritical, and perhaps not the most reliable witness to events.
Devolution to “England” means that any English First Minister would eventually come into conflict with any U.K. Prime Minister, and the result would be the break up of the U.K.
There is no perfect answer to the West Lothian question, but the best answer IMO is to properly devolve to counties and metros, leaving Westminster to focus largely on foreign policy and overall tax policy etc.
The most disappointing post I have seen in 12 years of PBing.
If wiki is to be believed the first ever candidate for them was none other than Alexander Thynn, future Marquess of Bath and owner of Longleat!
And today demonstrates that Westminster is not really interested in doing anything about that.
"On track for disaster? PM faces all-out Tory mutiny over rail 'betrayal' with fury he is dooming the North to 100 YEARS of misery by axing flagship 'Levelling Up' plans - and demands for MPs to get a free vote"
Even when you remove the myths, and recognize that the Native Americans REALLY got the short end of the wish-bone, at the core is the coming together of the families AND the whole American family.
Plus even atheists are willing to give thanks every now and then!