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  • HYUFD said:

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    No as this UK government will refuse one anyway.

    Though clearly Sturgeon does not want one anytime soon, hence this is her latest excuse for putting it off
    Saw this on ebay and thought of you.


  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,006
    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Farooq said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    At the moment Emma won last night I said

    'She aced it

    Fantastic and marvellous

    Forget politics this is just the best'

    This is a young lady who has so much talent, is mature beyond her years, and speaks with such intelligence some of the commentary on here today has demeaned her and I am sad to have read it

    A strange comment. From what I've read on here, everybody has said how marvellous her victory was, and how delightful a person she seems to be. So I'm not sure who's meant to have demeaned her. Quite the opposite.
    Leon has been disgusting.
    Did PB's IQ drop sharply while I was away?
    Average IQ, or median?
    I think IQ is a standardised scale where by definition the median = 100. So actually it can't drop, except in local pockets relative to the whole population.

    But anyway, my reference was to the director's cut of PB's fave movie. Check it out.
    There’s a director’s cut of Die Hard?
    Die Hard is PB's favourite Christmas movie.
  • As none of us has mentioned the Men's Singles Final at Flushing Toilets I can only conclude that there aren't any actual tennis fans on PB.

    Djokovic behind btw.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    eek said:

    Charles said:

    Charles said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Charles said:

    Farooq said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    At the moment Emma won last night I said

    'She aced it

    Fantastic and marvellous

    Forget politics this is just the best'

    This is a young lady who has so much talent, is mature beyond her years, and speaks with such intelligence some of the commentary on here today has demeaned her and I am sad to have read it

    A strange comment. From what I've read on here, everybody has said how marvellous her victory was, and how delightful a person she seems to be. So I'm not sure who's meant to have demeaned her. Quite the opposite.
    Leon has been disgusting.
    Did PB's IQ drop sharply while I was away?
    Average IQ, or median?
    Median is average.
    Average is more usually equated with mean. Median and mode are different
    Most people usually associate it with the mean, but a lot of the time the median is more useful.
    Agree - I much prefer median. But I don’t call it the average
    I bet you do, I bet you just don't think about it when you do.

    On average how many legs does a spider have? The mean average would be less than 8, for the same reason the mean average for people is less than 2.

    Median is perfectly legitimate use of the word average, it just depends upon circumstances which is more applicable and if you need to be specific you should probably specify which average you mean.
    Well the Cambridge University Dictiobary seems to think the average is the mean

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/average

    Most people I come across use mean/median to avoid confusion, but whenever they say “average” they are referring to the mean. And since language is about communication I’d recommend going with the flow.
    Are decimals allowed or are we using whole numbers with rounding?

    Also what is the definition of a leg, and what happens if the leg has been amputated above / below the knee?
    I would refer you to Lord Uxbridge’s Leg
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 120,871

    Rudy Giuliani taking the piss out of Elizabeth Windsor at 9/11 memorial dinner. Classy.

    “She said, ‘You did a wonderful job on Sept. 11,” he said in an apparent attempt at a British accent.

    “And therefore I’m making you an honorary knight, commander of the royal something or other,” he said, trailing off and reverting to his normal speaking voice.

    He added, “I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had to lose your citizenship.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/rudy-giuliani-goes-on-rant-during-9-11-memorial-dinner/

    Not sure if that really counts as taking the piss
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 120,871
    Farooq said:

    HYUFD said:

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    No as this UK government will refuse one anyway.

    Though clearly Sturgeon does not want one anytime soon, hence this is her latest excuse for putting it off
    So you're saying you support the SNP leader's position? Here you go: https://www.snp.org/join/member/
    Well as far as Salmond and Alba are concerned Sturgeon is as Unionist as Westminster
  • Interesting, to me at least, that Romanian press have been following Raducanu's career for at least 3 years, as a Romanian origin player.
    https://www.libertatea.ro/sport/emma-raducanu-si-bianca-andreescu-in-calificari-la-wimbledon-2307142

    ..the earliest mention I've found of her is from nearly six years ago in the Liverpool Echo when at just thirteen (she applied on her 13th birthday, the youngest age allowed) she became the youngest ever winner of an ITF U18 competition

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/other-sport/tennis/tennis-teenager-makes-history-liverpool-10479751
  • HYUFD said:

    Rudy Giuliani taking the piss out of Elizabeth Windsor at 9/11 memorial dinner. Classy.

    “She said, ‘You did a wonderful job on Sept. 11,” he said in an apparent attempt at a British accent.

    “And therefore I’m making you an honorary knight, commander of the royal something or other,” he said, trailing off and reverting to his normal speaking voice.

    He added, “I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had to lose your citizenship.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/rudy-giuliani-goes-on-rant-during-9-11-memorial-dinner/

    Not sure if that really counts as taking the piss
    Rank dumbassery since afaik an honorary knighthood exists exactly to allow citizens of other countries to be honoured. Suggests Rudy stopped looking at the small print a long time ago.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    edited September 2021
    HYUFD said:

    Rudy Giuliani taking the piss out of Elizabeth Windsor at 9/11 memorial dinner. Classy.

    “She said, ‘You did a wonderful job on Sept. 11,” he said in an apparent attempt at a British accent.

    “And therefore I’m making you an honorary knight, commander of the royal something or other,” he said, trailing off and reverting to his normal speaking voice.

    He added, “I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had to lose your citizenship.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/rudy-giuliani-goes-on-rant-during-9-11-memorial-dinner/

    Not sure if that really counts as taking the piss
    He's losing it as he actually accepted the knighthood, in person.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/feb/13/september11.usa
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Rudy Giuliani taking the piss out of Elizabeth Windsor at 9/11 memorial dinner. Classy.

    Video available

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9982931/Rudy-Giuliani-mocks-Queen-Elizabeths-British-accent-calls-military-officer-idiot.html

    He's being a twat but doesn't look or sound drunk to me.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,995

    As none of us has mentioned the Men's Singles Final at Flushing Toilets I can only conclude that there aren't any actual tennis fans on PB.

    Djokovic behind btw.

    Don’t have Prime. Hope the anti vaxxer loses.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited September 2021
    RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Rudy Giuliani taking the piss out of Elizabeth Windsor at 9/11 memorial dinner. Classy.

    “She said, ‘You did a wonderful job on Sept. 11,” he said in an apparent attempt at a British accent.

    “And therefore I’m making you an honorary knight, commander of the royal something or other,” he said, trailing off and reverting to his normal speaking voice.

    He added, “I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had to lose your citizenship.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/rudy-giuliani-goes-on-rant-during-9-11-memorial-dinner/

    Not sure if that really counts as taking the piss
    He's losing it as he actually accepted the knighthood, in person.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/feb/13/september11.usa
    I thought pre the election a lot of the stuff was trying to square the circle of dealing with Trumps craziness....but it isn't, he is also bat shit crazy.
  • Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,091

    California is asking the federal government to declare an “electric reliability emergency” so they can lean more heavily on fossil fuels to avoid blackouts

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-09/california-seeks-to-avert-blackouts-by-burning-more-fossil-fuels

    Hearts of stone and all that... This is hilarious
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,459
    edited September 2021
    On topic. Just backed Tom Daley at 14s (bf).

    I think once the understandable and deserved excitement of Emma has died down people will view Daley's achievement as being worthy of the award.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    No. That's Sturgeon keeping the UK together.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,914

    HYUFD said:

    Rudy Giuliani taking the piss out of Elizabeth Windsor at 9/11 memorial dinner. Classy.

    “She said, ‘You did a wonderful job on Sept. 11,” he said in an apparent attempt at a British accent.

    “And therefore I’m making you an honorary knight, commander of the royal something or other,” he said, trailing off and reverting to his normal speaking voice.

    He added, “I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had to lose your citizenship.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/rudy-giuliani-goes-on-rant-during-9-11-memorial-dinner/

    Not sure if that really counts as taking the piss
    Rank dumbassery since afaik an honorary knighthood exists exactly to allow citizens of other countries to be honoured. Suggests Rudy stopped looking at the small print a long time ago.
    I can't quite figure out if he is just plain losing touch with reality, with all the spurious 'legal' arguments and conspiracies, or if he's on some weird late life crisis where is feels validated by the cheers of utter cretins.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,914

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    No. That's Sturgeon keeping the UK together.
    Really? I shall try to be more kindly disposed toward her.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    RobD said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Charles said:

    Farooq said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    At the moment Emma won last night I said

    'She aced it

    Fantastic and marvellous

    Forget politics this is just the best'

    This is a young lady who has so much talent, is mature beyond her years, and speaks with such intelligence some of the commentary on here today has demeaned her and I am sad to have read it

    A strange comment. From what I've read on here, everybody has said how marvellous her victory was, and how delightful a person she seems to be. So I'm not sure who's meant to have demeaned her. Quite the opposite.
    Leon has been disgusting.
    Did PB's IQ drop sharply while I was away?
    Average IQ, or median?
    Median is average.
    Average is more usually equated with mean. Median and mode are different
    I find it helpful to use "number of legs (as a human)" as a test case. I have more than the mean, spot on the mode, and I'm not sure there even is a median.
    You'd surely have spot on for the median for the same reason as you have the mode, even if it is above the mean average?
    Yes (but not for the same reason).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median is very lucid.
    If over 50% of a population have the same figure, then by definition it must be both the mean and median average.
    Not the mean, surely? If a million people had two legs and one person had 1, the mean would be something like 1.99999.
    Typo I clearly meant modal and median, since I'd already said mean is different.

    Hence why mode and median are both the same answer, for the same reason. Since over half the population has 2 legs, 2 legs must by definition be both the modal (most common) and median (in the middle) average.

    Mean average will be less than 2.
    Mode and median don't have to be the same.

    22223456789 has a mode of 2 and a median of 4.
    You dropped the conditional. I said if over 50% of the population has the same figure, then the mode and median do have to the be the same. In your example 2 was only 4/11 so not over 50%.

    If your series were 22222256789 then 2 would need to be both median and mode since its over 50% of the population.
  • What happened this morning with vaxports?

    Seems to have been a sudden switch.

    Did Javid threaten to resign over something he clearly hated? Gove overruled by PM under pressure? Just a thought.

    Something happened imho.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
  • kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    And why not? I’m sure that she’s very proud of her heritage, and that Romanians are very proud of her.
  • RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Rudy Giuliani taking the piss out of Elizabeth Windsor at 9/11 memorial dinner. Classy.

    “She said, ‘You did a wonderful job on Sept. 11,” he said in an apparent attempt at a British accent.

    “And therefore I’m making you an honorary knight, commander of the royal something or other,” he said, trailing off and reverting to his normal speaking voice.

    He added, “I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had to lose your citizenship.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/rudy-giuliani-goes-on-rant-during-9-11-memorial-dinner/

    Not sure if that really counts as taking the piss
    He's losing it as he actually accepted the knighthood, in person.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/feb/13/september11.usa
    After the ceremony, Mr Giuliani arrived for lunch with the Lord Mayor of London and the Duke of York at Mansion House.
  • TOPPING said:

    On topic. Just backed Tom Daley at 14s (bf).

    I think once the understandable and deserved excitement of Emma has died down people will view Daley's achievement as being worthy of the award.

    Decent price. Certainly worth a punt. I'm not sure though whether the papers wont whip for Emma when the vote gets close.
  • RobD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Rudy Giuliani taking the piss out of Elizabeth Windsor at 9/11 memorial dinner. Classy.

    “She said, ‘You did a wonderful job on Sept. 11,” he said in an apparent attempt at a British accent.

    “And therefore I’m making you an honorary knight, commander of the royal something or other,” he said, trailing off and reverting to his normal speaking voice.

    He added, “I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had to lose your citizenship.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/rudy-giuliani-goes-on-rant-during-9-11-memorial-dinner/

    Not sure if that really counts as taking the piss
    He's losing it as he actually accepted the knighthood, in person.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/feb/13/september11.usa
    After the ceremony, Mr Giuliani arrived for lunch with the Lord Mayor of London and the Duke of York at Mansion House.
    Tossers salad was served.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Charles said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Charles said:

    Farooq said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    At the moment Emma won last night I said

    'She aced it

    Fantastic and marvellous

    Forget politics this is just the best'

    This is a young lady who has so much talent, is mature beyond her years, and speaks with such intelligence some of the commentary on here today has demeaned her and I am sad to have read it

    A strange comment. From what I've read on here, everybody has said how marvellous her victory was, and how delightful a person she seems to be. So I'm not sure who's meant to have demeaned her. Quite the opposite.
    Leon has been disgusting.
    Did PB's IQ drop sharply while I was away?
    Average IQ, or median?
    Median is average.
    Average is more usually equated with mean. Median and mode are different
    Most people usually associate it with the mean, but a lot of the time the median is more useful.
    Agree - I much prefer median. But I don’t call it the average
    I bet you do, I bet you just don't think about it when you do.

    On average how many legs does a spider have? The mean average would be less than 8, for the same reason the mean average for people is less than 2.

    Median is perfectly legitimate use of the word average, it just depends upon circumstances which is more applicable and if you need to be specific you should probably specify which average you mean.
    Wasnt there some programme that attempted to find the average Australian by taking the average of about 10 characteristics and then finding a aussie that had them all - Turns out there was not one single one.
    The US airforce famously had this problem when designing cockpits for their aircraft.

    They designed for the "average" physical characteristics of their pilots. They later discovered even with pretty large bounds on the range "average" covered for each characteristics that zero pilots were average in every category.

    If you limited it to just 3 of the 10 measurements then less than 5% of pilots would be average in those 3 categories.

    Completely changed how airplane cockpits for jets were designed.

    https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-force-discovered-the-flaw-of-averages.html
  • kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Leon wouldn't be complaining....
  • kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    And why not? I’m sure that she’s very proud of her heritage, and that Romanians are very proud of her.
    I thought so too, but apparently she just likes the colour red best and it was the red Nike one she liked the most.
  • We aren't doing dress-gate AGAIN are we.....face palm....
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Leave wouldn't have won the referendum!
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    kle4 said:

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    No. That's Sturgeon keeping the UK together.
    Really? I shall try to be more kindly disposed toward her.
    Well, look at it objectively. What restrictions are still currently in place? Most of them were lifted in August.

    The restrictions on physical distancing and limits to the size of social gatherings have been removed, and nightclubs are allowed to reopen.

    Facemasks in shops and on trains and in secondary schools - hardly seems like a reason why an independence referendum can't happen.

    Giving details to businesses to comply with track and trace - ditto.

    2m distancing remains but only in healthcare settings - ditto.

    You had 50,000 fans at the Old Firm game, 50,000 at TRNSMT. OK, there might need to be some applications for permissions for those and perhaps a vaxport in October (maybes), but again, how's it stopping indyref2?

    No, it's just another nebulous reason why they can continue to talk about wanting indyref2 but not actually wanting indyref2.

    It's in the first half of the parliament, but it's before the end of 2023, but it's after covid restrictions, but only if the NHS isn't under "pressure". It's not exactly subtle bullshitting now.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,135
    edited September 2021
    Yes, that lines up exactly with what my cousin said on timing of it.

    He's been told that everyone in groups 1-9 will be contacted 6 months after their second dose and that groups 10-12 will also be eligible but not actively contacted. Everyone gets the opposite of what they had last time unless there are specific heart conditions for Pfizer recipients or blood clotting issues for AZ recipients.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,914

    Scott_xP said:

    Oh, come on. Her parents had all this planned. Just look at her name: Emma Raducanu.

    E R

    So obviously a tribute to Her Majesty.

    :)

    Her name is interesting. I have a Scottish friend who married a Korean woman, and they had some trouble finding a name for their daughter that sounded good in both languages.

    So a Chinese mother and Romanian father pick a quintessentially English name...
    Huh? Quintessentially English?

    Origin: Ancient Germanic, Ancient Scandinavian, Old Norse, Italian, and Modern Scandinavian (wiki)
    I don't think origins necessarily prevent a name from being being associated quintessentially with somewhere else. Whether Emma falls into the category I have no idea, I suppose it would depend how common a name it is in other places.
  • Nunu3Nunu3 Posts: 207
    I think you have to be very privileged to live in London and not realise the city has a major problem with specifically Romanian gangs committing crime.

    Yes it is to do with the fact they are Romanian, it is ingrained within a lot of traveller cultures, and to deny is to have your head in the sand, it is not just because they are young and poor and men and poorly educated.
  • kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Sean’s frothing over.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    And why not? I’m sure that she’s very proud of her heritage, and that Romanians are very proud of her.
    Just kidding around. Reference to the scenes on PT.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491
    .
    Johnson's 10 point poll lead over Labour restored.

    Labour jabber, Boris jabs.
  • .

    Johnson's 10 point poll lead over Labour restored.

    Labour jabber, Boris jabs.

    Unnecessarily, says the actual inventor of the vaccine.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited September 2021
    Quite a U-turn... hopefully this isn't just to keep his backbenchers onside.

    Monday's TELEGRAPH: Johnson to rip up Covid restrictions
    #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/h9EzRbuJZD
  • No way she doesn't win SPOTY...


  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491

    .

    Johnson's 10 point poll lead over Labour restored.

    Labour jabber, Boris jabs.

    Unnecessarily, says the actual inventor of the vaccine.
    Dame Sarah Gilbert?

    We all know who really invented the vaccines. We saw him in his labcoat, in the lab... Inventing vaccines.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    isam said:

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Leave wouldn't have won the referendum!
    All Romanians are clones of her, of course.

    And with the best will in the world I can't think of any theory which says that she is anything other than Canadian or British, as anything other than racism.
  • Quite a U-turn...

    Monday's TELEGRAPH: Johnson to rip up Covid restrictions
    #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/h9EzRbuJZD

    That chat with the Chief Whip this afternoon must have been interesting as the feedback from the shires comes in.

  • Quite a U-turn...

    Monday's TELEGRAPH: Johnson to rip up Covid restrictions
    #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/h9EzRbuJZD

    That chat with the Chief Whip this afternoon must have been interesting as the feedback from the shires comes in.

    I'm getting my ear plugs ready for iSAGE response.....
  • Oh God, Johnson is "dead set" against another lockdown.

    Why am I filled with a sense of dread?
  • kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    The Romanian flag isn't white and gold.
  • Quite a U-turn...

    Monday's TELEGRAPH: Johnson to rip up Covid restrictions
    #TomorrowsPapersToday https://t.co/h9EzRbuJZD

    That chat with the Chief Whip this afternoon must have been interesting as the feedback from the shires comes in.

    I'm getting my ear plugs ready for iSAGE response.....
    "Uniquely dangerous experiment that exposes the whole world to human extinction level variant"?
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    IshmaelZ said:

    RobD said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Charles said:

    Farooq said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    At the moment Emma won last night I said

    'She aced it

    Fantastic and marvellous

    Forget politics this is just the best'

    This is a young lady who has so much talent, is mature beyond her years, and speaks with such intelligence some of the commentary on here today has demeaned her and I am sad to have read it

    A strange comment. From what I've read on here, everybody has said how marvellous her victory was, and how delightful a person she seems to be. So I'm not sure who's meant to have demeaned her. Quite the opposite.
    Leon has been disgusting.
    Did PB's IQ drop sharply while I was away?
    Average IQ, or median?
    Median is average.
    Average is more usually equated with mean. Median and mode are different
    I find it helpful to use "number of legs (as a human)" as a test case. I have more than the mean, spot on the mode, and I'm not sure there even is a median.
    You'd surely have spot on for the median for the same reason as you have the mode, even if it is above the mean average?
    Yes (but not for the same reason).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median is very lucid.
    If over 50% of a population have the same figure, then by definition it must be both the mean and median average.
    Not the mean, surely? If a million people had two legs and one person had 1, the mean would be something like 1.99999.
    Typo I clearly meant modal and median, since I'd already said mean is different.

    Hence why mode and median are both the same answer, for the same reason. Since over half the population has 2 legs, 2 legs must by definition be both the modal (most common) and median (in the middle) average.

    Mean average will be less than 2.
    Mode and median don't have to be the same.

    22223456789 has a mode of 2 and a median of 4.
    You dropped the conditional. I said if over 50% of the population has the same figure, then the mode and median do have to the be the same. In your example 2 was only 4/11 so not over 50%.

    If your series were 22222256789 then 2 would need to be both median and mode since its over 50% of the population.
    HBF
  • No way she doesn't win SPOTY...


    She's going to be a fucking huge star.

    She's already done Vogue (between her QF and SF).

    https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/emma-raducanu-interview
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    IshmaelZ said:

    isam said:

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Leave wouldn't have won the referendum!
    All Romanians are clones of her, of course.

    And with the best will in the world I can't think of any theory which says that she is anything other than Canadian or British, as anything other than racism.
    Well the quote was "Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.", so the context was clones of her
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Farooq said:

    kle4 said:

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    No. That's Sturgeon keeping the UK together.
    Really? I shall try to be more kindly disposed toward her.
    Well, look at it objectively. What restrictions are still currently in place? Most of them were lifted in August.

    The restrictions on physical distancing and limits to the size of social gatherings have been removed, and nightclubs are allowed to reopen.

    Facemasks in shops and on trains and in secondary schools - hardly seems like a reason why an independence referendum can't happen.

    Giving details to businesses to comply with track and trace - ditto.

    2m distancing remains but only in healthcare settings - ditto.

    You had 50,000 fans at the Old Firm game, 50,000 at TRNSMT. OK, there might need to be some applications for permissions for those and perhaps a vaxport in October (maybes), but again, how's it stopping indyref2?

    No, it's just another nebulous reason why they can continue to talk about wanting indyref2 but not actually wanting indyref2.

    It's in the first half of the parliament, but it's before the end of 2023, but it's after covid restrictions, but only if the NHS isn't under "pressure". It's not exactly subtle bullshitting now.
    If the SNP were pushing for an immediate referendum, you can be certain that opponents of independence would be using the fact there's still a pandemic on as a attack line. And that attack line would have huge traction.
    Pushing hard on a referendum now would be a huge gift to those who oppose independence.
    Of course there's no way opponents of independence wouldn't just fall back on any of the other three hundred reasons they've been pushing for years as to why there shouldn't be an independence referendum.

    But it's by the by. Post-covid the SNP will find another reason to say why there should be another independence referendum, just not today. Probably because there will be some other sort of election about to happen.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    isam said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    isam said:

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Leave wouldn't have won the referendum!
    All Romanians are clones of her, of course.

    And with the best will in the world I can't think of any theory which says that she is anything other than Canadian or British, as anything other than racism.
    Well the quote was "Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.", so the context was clones of her
    Well yes, but what makes that a valid thought experiment?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132

    .

    Johnson's 10 point poll lead over Labour restored.

    Labour jabber, Boris jabs.

    Unnecessarily, says the actual inventor of the vaccine.
    Vaccine gluttony?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,135
    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    RobD said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Charles said:

    Farooq said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    At the moment Emma won last night I said

    'She aced it

    Fantastic and marvellous

    Forget politics this is just the best'

    This is a young lady who has so much talent, is mature beyond her years, and speaks with such intelligence some of the commentary on here today has demeaned her and I am sad to have read it

    A strange comment. From what I've read on here, everybody has said how marvellous her victory was, and how delightful a person she seems to be. So I'm not sure who's meant to have demeaned her. Quite the opposite.
    Leon has been disgusting.
    Did PB's IQ drop sharply while I was away?
    Average IQ, or median?
    Median is average.
    Average is more usually equated with mean. Median and mode are different
    I find it helpful to use "number of legs (as a human)" as a test case. I have more than the mean, spot on the mode, and I'm not sure there even is a median.
    You'd surely have spot on for the median for the same reason as you have the mode, even if it is above the mean average?
    Yes (but not for the same reason).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median is very lucid.
    If over 50% of a population have the same figure, then by definition it must be both the mean and median average.
    Not the mean, surely? If a million people had two legs and one person had 1, the mean would be something like 1.99999.
    Typo I clearly meant modal and median, since I'd already said mean is different.

    Hence why mode and median are both the same answer, for the same reason. Since over half the population has 2 legs, 2 legs must by definition be both the modal (most common) and median (in the middle) average.

    Mean average will be less than 2.
    Mode and median don't have to be the same.

    22223456789 has a mode of 2 and a median of 4.
    You dropped the conditional. I said if over 50% of the population has the same figure, then the mode and median do have to the be the same. In your example 2 was only 4/11 so not over 50%.

    If your series were 22222256789 then 2 would need to be both median and mode since its over 50% of the population.
    HBF
    Harsh but fair, I hasten to clarify, now that I see that glossed as "hand butt fuck" by the internet. What will they think of next?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899
    Someone is sneaking into my flat, while I am away, to cook light Arabic themed luncheons
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,452

    HYUFD said:

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    No as this UK government will refuse one anyway.

    Though clearly Sturgeon does not want one anytime soon, hence this is her latest excuse for putting it off
    Saw this on ebay and thought of you.


    Ooh! A Mark 2! Not a common variant at all.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,729

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Selling the Big Issue?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    IshmaelZ said:

    isam said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    isam said:

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Leave wouldn't have won the referendum!
    All Romanians are clones of her, of course.

    And with the best will in the world I can't think of any theory which says that she is anything other than Canadian or British, as anything other than racism.
    Well the quote was "Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.", so the context was clones of her
    Well yes, but what makes that a valid thought experiment?
    I think they call it a "joke"
  • IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    RobD said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Charles said:

    Farooq said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    At the moment Emma won last night I said

    'She aced it

    Fantastic and marvellous

    Forget politics this is just the best'

    This is a young lady who has so much talent, is mature beyond her years, and speaks with such intelligence some of the commentary on here today has demeaned her and I am sad to have read it

    A strange comment. From what I've read on here, everybody has said how marvellous her victory was, and how delightful a person she seems to be. So I'm not sure who's meant to have demeaned her. Quite the opposite.
    Leon has been disgusting.
    Did PB's IQ drop sharply while I was away?
    Average IQ, or median?
    Median is average.
    Average is more usually equated with mean. Median and mode are different
    I find it helpful to use "number of legs (as a human)" as a test case. I have more than the mean, spot on the mode, and I'm not sure there even is a median.
    You'd surely have spot on for the median for the same reason as you have the mode, even if it is above the mean average?
    Yes (but not for the same reason).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median is very lucid.
    If over 50% of a population have the same figure, then by definition it must be both the mean and median average.
    Not the mean, surely? If a million people had two legs and one person had 1, the mean would be something like 1.99999.
    Typo I clearly meant modal and median, since I'd already said mean is different.

    Hence why mode and median are both the same answer, for the same reason. Since over half the population has 2 legs, 2 legs must by definition be both the modal (most common) and median (in the middle) average.

    Mean average will be less than 2.
    Mode and median don't have to be the same.

    22223456789 has a mode of 2 and a median of 4.
    You dropped the conditional. I said if over 50% of the population has the same figure, then the mode and median do have to the be the same. In your example 2 was only 4/11 so not over 50%.

    If your series were 22222256789 then 2 would need to be both median and mode since its over 50% of the population.
    HBF
    Harsh but fair, I hasten to clarify, now that I see that glossed as "hand butt fuck" by the internet. What will they think of next?
    LOL

    That means "Lots Of Love" according to David Cameron.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Nothing good comes from Twitter.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899
    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    What's the secret? Her Dad is Romanian, so of course she both is, and is proud of being, part Romanian. Same way 3/4 of my girlfriends Grandparents were Irish, and she considers herself part Irish.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited September 2021
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Da kidz don't do twitter.....all about the gram and tik tok.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    The Romanian flag isn't white and gold.
    What does it look like? I'm almost moved to find out.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    isam said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    isam said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    isam said:

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.
    Unfortunately certain PBers have already started doing this.
    Leave wouldn't have won the referendum!
    All Romanians are clones of her, of course.

    And with the best will in the world I can't think of any theory which says that she is anything other than Canadian or British, as anything other than racism.
    Well the quote was "Just imagine 12 of her moving in next door to you.", so the context was clones of her
    Well yes, but what makes that a valid thought experiment?
    I think they call it a "joke"
    But what makes it a valid joke?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899

    Farooq said:

    kle4 said:

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    No. That's Sturgeon keeping the UK together.
    Really? I shall try to be more kindly disposed toward her.
    Well, look at it objectively. What restrictions are still currently in place? Most of them were lifted in August.

    The restrictions on physical distancing and limits to the size of social gatherings have been removed, and nightclubs are allowed to reopen.

    Facemasks in shops and on trains and in secondary schools - hardly seems like a reason why an independence referendum can't happen.

    Giving details to businesses to comply with track and trace - ditto.

    2m distancing remains but only in healthcare settings - ditto.

    You had 50,000 fans at the Old Firm game, 50,000 at TRNSMT. OK, there might need to be some applications for permissions for those and perhaps a vaxport in October (maybes), but again, how's it stopping indyref2?

    No, it's just another nebulous reason why they can continue to talk about wanting indyref2 but not actually wanting indyref2.

    It's in the first half of the parliament, but it's before the end of 2023, but it's after covid restrictions, but only if the NHS isn't under "pressure". It's not exactly subtle bullshitting now.
    If the SNP were pushing for an immediate referendum, you can be certain that opponents of independence would be using the fact there's still a pandemic on as a attack line. And that attack line would have huge traction.
    Pushing hard on a referendum now would be a huge gift to those who oppose independence.
    Of course there's no way opponents of independence wouldn't just fall back on any of the other three hundred reasons they've been pushing for years as to why there shouldn't be an independence referendum.

    But it's by the by. Post-covid the SNP will find another reason to say why there should be another independence referendum, just not today. Probably because there will be some other sort of election about to happen.
    Prediction: there won't be another indyref before 2030, now. Too many mad obstacles, and the momentum is dying
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,459

    No way she doesn't win SPOTY...


    She's going to be a fucking huge star.

    She's already done Vogue (between her QF and SF).

    https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/emma-raducanu-interview
    Red and black. So an anarchist.
    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    There's also a huge debate about Fernandez's complaining about the MTO.

    Although she has now said it happened in the heat of the moment it hasn't stopped Twitter holding forth.

    Both late-teen girls who have done brilliantly. Welcome to the social media age which admittedly they grew up in but which must be harsh nevertheless.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132

    Oh God, Johnson is "dead set" against another lockdown.

    Why am I filled with a sense of dread?

    There won't be another lockdown. PLEASE listen to me for once.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,135
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited September 2021
    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Don't most young famous people now have their public social media accounts managed for them?
  • kinabalu said:

    .

    Johnson's 10 point poll lead over Labour restored.

    Labour jabber, Boris jabs.

    Unnecessarily, says the actual inventor of the vaccine.
    Vaccine gluttony?
    We have been quite the vaccine gluttons, which I think is quite reasonable for one of the worst affected (in admitted deaths, hospitalisations and infections) countries in the world.

    We also tried our best to make the vaccine for the poor in the world.

    Unfortunately this noble effort was hamstrung by the deliberate, idiotic, and frankly evil, actions of Macron, the EU (NB NOT the EMA, given the fine institution that they've proven themselves to be), and the FDA (who clearly have their nuts held by US Pharma)
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,135
    isam said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    What's the secret? Her Dad is Romanian, so of course she both is, and is proud of being, part Romanian. Same way 3/4 of my girlfriends Grandparents were Irish, and she considers herself part Irish.
    Well indeed, but reading Twitter it's apparently some massive secret and she's not really British and it might finally be that one thing that reverses the leave vote. 🤷‍♂️
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,335
    edited September 2021
    kinabalu said:

    Oh God, Johnson is "dead set" against another lockdown.

    Why am I filled with a sense of dread?

    There won't be another lockdown. PLEASE listen to me for once.
    I was being a bit flippant based on Johnson's repeated statements that X and Y would or would not happen during the plague years. e.g. "Xmas is definitely on - get grandpa a train ticket booked"

    I think you are right, but I'm interested as to what's your reasoning?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited September 2021
    MaxPB said:

    isam said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    What's the secret? Her Dad is Romanian, so of course she both is, and is proud of being, part Romanian. Same way 3/4 of my girlfriends Grandparents were Irish, and she considers herself part Irish.
    Well indeed, but reading Twitter it's apparently some massive secret and she's not really British and it might finally be that one thing that reverses the leave vote. 🤷‍♂️
    Outside of social media loons, i think most people saw a nice young lady playing some cracking tennis....and that was about it.

    Same way as nobody was going through the detailed familiar background of every footballer in the Euros or the medalists in the Olympics.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,135

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Don't most young famous people now have their public social media accounts managed for them?
    Yes, there's a few notable exceptions like Lewis Hamilton who definitely dies his own stuff as it has spelling errors sometimes.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    How it always starts on here is always the same: someone with a foreign born parent wins something and everyone is delighted, and then some weapons-grade cocksucker comes along and says Hur Hur Hur, isn't it funny how all the people who object to furriners (spelt thus, because of how clever and funny that is) don't object to this particular furriner? And that's such an original and insightful point that a vigorous and good natured debate naturally ensues.
  • Leon said:

    Farooq said:

    kle4 said:

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    No. That's Sturgeon keeping the UK together.
    Really? I shall try to be more kindly disposed toward her.
    Well, look at it objectively. What restrictions are still currently in place? Most of them were lifted in August.

    The restrictions on physical distancing and limits to the size of social gatherings have been removed, and nightclubs are allowed to reopen.

    Facemasks in shops and on trains and in secondary schools - hardly seems like a reason why an independence referendum can't happen.

    Giving details to businesses to comply with track and trace - ditto.

    2m distancing remains but only in healthcare settings - ditto.

    You had 50,000 fans at the Old Firm game, 50,000 at TRNSMT. OK, there might need to be some applications for permissions for those and perhaps a vaxport in October (maybes), but again, how's it stopping indyref2?

    No, it's just another nebulous reason why they can continue to talk about wanting indyref2 but not actually wanting indyref2.

    It's in the first half of the parliament, but it's before the end of 2023, but it's after covid restrictions, but only if the NHS isn't under "pressure". It's not exactly subtle bullshitting now.
    If the SNP were pushing for an immediate referendum, you can be certain that opponents of independence would be using the fact there's still a pandemic on as a attack line. And that attack line would have huge traction.
    Pushing hard on a referendum now would be a huge gift to those who oppose independence.
    Of course there's no way opponents of independence wouldn't just fall back on any of the other three hundred reasons they've been pushing for years as to why there shouldn't be an independence referendum.

    But it's by the by. Post-covid the SNP will find another reason to say why there should be another independence referendum, just not today. Probably because there will be some other sort of election about to happen.
    Prediction: there won't be another indyref before 2030, now. Too many mad obstacles, and the momentum is dying
    Like they've run out of oil?


    (Ducks and runs for the door..)
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899
    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Good for her. Let it stay sanitised and boring. She is just 18. She should steer entirely clear of politics and religion and Woke and anything like that. I doubt people will unfollow her. Fangirls will stan her to the edge of the universe

    She'll get 10m followers within a year, if she carries on winning
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  • Leon said:

    Someone is sneaking into my flat, while I am away, to cook light Arabic themed luncheons

    Ok, you've lost me now.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132
    Farooq said:

    kle4 said:

    It is a pity my stint as editor of PB has come to an end.

    If I was still editing PB I would be publishing a piece entitled.

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    A second referendum on Scottish independence will not be held until all day-to-day Covid restrictions have been lifted, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    The first minister has repeatedly pledged to hold another poll by the end of 2023, but only if the public health crisis is over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/12/no-independence-referendum-until-covid-restrictions-lifted-sturgeon-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    'Is Covid-19 pandemic the only way to keep the United Kingdom together?'

    No. That's Sturgeon keeping the UK together.
    Really? I shall try to be more kindly disposed toward her.
    Well, look at it objectively. What restrictions are still currently in place? Most of them were lifted in August.

    The restrictions on physical distancing and limits to the size of social gatherings have been removed, and nightclubs are allowed to reopen.

    Facemasks in shops and on trains and in secondary schools - hardly seems like a reason why an independence referendum can't happen.

    Giving details to businesses to comply with track and trace - ditto.

    2m distancing remains but only in healthcare settings - ditto.

    You had 50,000 fans at the Old Firm game, 50,000 at TRNSMT. OK, there might need to be some applications for permissions for those and perhaps a vaxport in October (maybes), but again, how's it stopping indyref2?

    No, it's just another nebulous reason why they can continue to talk about wanting indyref2 but not actually wanting indyref2.

    It's in the first half of the parliament, but it's before the end of 2023, but it's after covid restrictions, but only if the NHS isn't under "pressure". It's not exactly subtle bullshitting now.
    If the SNP were pushing for an immediate referendum, you can be certain that opponents of independence would be using the fact there's still a pandemic on as a attack line. And that attack line would have huge traction.
    Pushing hard on a referendum now would be a huge gift to those who oppose independence.
    There's a notion at large that Sturgeon doesn't want indy, she just wants to dominate a devolved but never quite leaving Scotland. I find this odd and not supported by anything other than a presumed ability to divine her deepest inner thoughts and see that they are totally at odds with everything she has ever said.
  • MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Don't most young famous people now have their public social media accounts managed for them?
    Yes, there's a few notable exceptions like Lewis Hamilton who definitely dies his own stuff as it has spelling errors sometimes.
    Do you think Marcus does his own? I noticed a your/you're error in one of his (message of support to Emma that she RTd) earlier. Didn't notice a single grammatical error in any of hers (@HYUFD is that the point of grammar school?)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited September 2021

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Don't most young famous people now have their public social media accounts managed for them?
    Yes, there's a few notable exceptions like Lewis Hamilton who definitely dies his own stuff as it has spelling errors sometimes.
    Do you think Marcus does his own? I noticed a your/you're error in one of his (message of support to Emma that she RTd) earlier. Didn't notice a single grammatical error in any of hers (@HYUFD is that the point of grammar school?)
    No he doesn't...it is well known a company is charged with managing it, and tweets have been sent when he was training and also dumps of facts that come really quickly that no normal person just has on hand.

    Although it is rarely 100% one way or another.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,266
    edited September 2021

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Nothing good comes from Twitter.
    When people post factual information, such as opinion poll numbers, it's quite useful.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,135
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Good for her. Let it stay sanitised and boring. She is just 18. She should steer entirely clear of politics and religion and Woke and anything like that. I doubt people will unfollow her. Fangirls will stan her to the edge of the universe

    She'll get 10m followers within a year, if she carries on winning
    Yes well if she keeps winning she'll be a global superstar. I also wouldn't want her to comment on any of that, Instagram isn't a good platform for it anyway. All you do is annoy everyone by talking about it. I think one of the Hadid sisters lost loads of followers when she started banging on about Israel/Palestine. People don't go on Instagram to be preached at, it's probably one of the last places on the internet that sits outside of politics.
  • She hasn't won Wimbledon.

    Virginia did.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899
    edited September 2021
    IshmaelZ said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    How it always starts on here is always the same: someone with a foreign born parent wins something and everyone is delighted, and then some weapons-grade cocksucker comes along and says Hur Hur Hur, isn't it funny how all the people who object to furriners (spelt thus, because of how clever and funny that is) don't object to this particular furriner? And that's such an original and insightful point that a vigorous and good natured debate naturally ensues.
    Remember the huge Twitter ruckus about the "narwhal-tusk wielding terrorist-thwarter". When Remoaners found out he was a "Polish cook" they all ejaculated over their poached eggs, and I believe A C Grayling had to be taken into care. Again

    Of course since then it has turned out the narwhal-tusk-wielders were actually a white South African British chef and a white British murderer awaiting parole, and the Remoaners went all quiet. Again

    It would be singularly hilarious in the best possible way if Raducanu's one single political social media statement is a heartfelt endorsement of Brexit. Just for the bantz and reax
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,266

    She hasn't won Wimbledon.

    Virginia did.

    What are the odds of Emma winning Wimbledon next year? I think she will.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    kinabalu said:

    Oh God, Johnson is "dead set" against another lockdown.

    Why am I filled with a sense of dread?

    There won't be another lockdown. PLEASE listen to me for once.
    Sure. But Johnson's wording worries me, because I didn't think there was even an argument about it. If he suddenly said he was dead set against the compulsory sterilisation of labour voters, would you find that not at all unsettling?

    Btw you can get a usef dvd of blade runner for about 3 quid. Just do it.
  • Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
  • Leon said:



    Prediction: there won't be another indyref before 2030, now. Too many mad obstacles, and the momentum is dying

    Is that a ‘SNP not largest party at Holyrood’ level prediction, or a ‘Defcon 1, Sturgeon is toast after Jackie Baillie’s forensic grilling’ one?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,135

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Don't most young famous people now have their public social media accounts managed for them?
    Yes, there's a few notable exceptions like Lewis Hamilton who definitely dies his own stuff as it has spelling errors sometimes.
    Do you think Marcus does his own? I noticed a your/you're error in one of his (message of support to Emma that she RTd) earlier. Didn't notice a single grammatical error in any of hers (@HYUFD is that the point of grammar school?)
    I think Rashford does some of it but also has got a pretty good social media agency as well who will validate before posting. For example is guess the stuff about him scoring goals for United or England will be 100% by the social media team. Anything about food poverty will be him but double triple checked for language and clarity of message before it gets posted.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899

    Leon said:

    Someone is sneaking into my flat, while I am away, to cook light Arabic themed luncheons

    Ok, you've lost me now.
    It's true. I believe this is happening to me
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,266

    What happened this morning with vaxports?

    Seems to have been a sudden switch.

    Did Javid threaten to resign over something he clearly hated? Gove overruled by PM under pressure? Just a thought.

    Something happened imho.

    It's put Nicola Sturgeon in a difficult position. She's pressing ahead with them at the moment.
  • Andy_JS said:

    What happened this morning with vaxports?

    Seems to have been a sudden switch.

    Did Javid threaten to resign over something he clearly hated? Gove overruled by PM under pressure? Just a thought.

    Something happened imho.

    It's put Nicola Sturgeon in a difficult position. She's pressing ahead with them at the moment.
    The nightclubs of Berwick about to become swamped?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899
    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Good for her. Let it stay sanitised and boring. She is just 18. She should steer entirely clear of politics and religion and Woke and anything like that. I doubt people will unfollow her. Fangirls will stan her to the edge of the universe

    She'll get 10m followers within a year, if she carries on winning
    Yes well if she keeps winning she'll be a global superstar. I also wouldn't want her to comment on any of that, Instagram isn't a good platform for it anyway. All you do is annoy everyone by talking about it. I think one of the Hadid sisters lost loads of followers when she started banging on about Israel/Palestine. People don't go on Instagram to be preached at, it's probably one of the last places on the internet that sits outside of politics.
    Indeed. Memo to any sports star, young actor, etc. Avoid ANYTHING controversial during your initial and money-spinning career. Be Roger Federer

    There are occasional stars like Rashford who do it, and do it well, but he is exceptional

    If you have opinions wait until you've made your £100 million. And basically retired. Then rant away, as no one can touch you. Tho it will still be rough

    I am very admiring of Martina Navrat and the way she stands up to the nastier elements of the trans lobby. Because, Jesus, they can be nasty
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