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  • Andy_JS said:

    She hasn't won Wimbledon.

    Virginia did.

    What are the odds of Emma winning Wimbledon next year? I think she will.
    Dunno. But don't forget the South West London gig is on grass. She won on a hard court.

  • Emma is 8.6 to win Wimbledon.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,978
    edited September 2021
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Good for her. Let it stay sanitised and boring. She is just 18. She should steer entirely clear of politics and religion and Woke and anything like that. I doubt people will unfollow her. Fangirls will stan her to the edge of the universe

    She'll get 10m followers within a year, if she carries on winning
    Yes well if she keeps winning she'll be a global superstar. I also wouldn't want her to comment on any of that, Instagram isn't a good platform for it anyway. All you do is annoy everyone by talking about it. I think one of the Hadid sisters lost loads of followers when she started banging on about Israel/Palestine. People don't go on Instagram to be preached at, it's probably one of the last places on the internet that sits outside of politics.
    Indeed. Memo to any sports star, young actor, etc. Avoid ANYTHING controversial during your initial and money-spinning career. Be Roger Federer

    There are occasional stars like Rashford who do it, and do it well, but he is exceptional

    If you have opinions wait until you've made your £100 million. And basically retired. Then rant away, as no one can touch you. Tho it will still be rough

    I am very admiring of Martina Navrat and the way she stands up to the nastier elements of the trans lobby. Because, Jesus, they can be nasty
    Rashford isn't that controversial... RocNation identified a particular issue that he relates to / believes in and they wage a campaign on his behalf, but other than that he is very vanilla and afaik never talks about anything else political, nor takes sides i.e. says retweet, like, Starmer da man, or Boris is a twat.... like Gary Neville or Gary Lineker do.

    Even with the racist abuse, he just basically said thank you for your support...he never went anywhere near like Mings who started attacking Patel for her comments.

    Its a very carefully controlled by RocNation.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    The New York Times has done another British thing



    "The New York Times
    @nytimes
    ·
    1m
    Emma Raducanu’s victory at the U.S. Open was a kind of redemption for England after the country's soccer team suffered a heartbreaking defeat in the finals of Euro 2020."

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1437174226201501697?s=20
  • Andy_JS said:

    She hasn't won Wimbledon.

    Virginia did.

    What are the odds of Emma winning Wimbledon next year? I think she will.
    Dunno. But don't forget the South West London gig is on grass. She won on a hard court.

    She had an incredible raw talent on grass a few months ago.

    She could be the next generation's Serena Williams, she seems that good.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,058
    edited September 2021

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I was curious about the test, so I did it, and got 90.66%. I suspect I didn't get 100% because a) I'm an Englishman living in Wales, and b) I'm half French. Some of the questions are fair enough, but the ones which critizied living somewhere where almost everyone is White were very disingenuous.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,098

    kinabalu said:

    Oh God, Johnson is "dead set" against another lockdown.

    Why am I filled with a sense of dread?

    There won't be another lockdown. PLEASE listen to me for once.
    I was being a bit flippant based on Johnson's repeated statements that X and Y would or would not happen during the plague years. e.g. "Xmas is definitely on - get grandpa a train ticket booked"

    I think you are right, but I'm interested as to what's your reasoning?
    I'd say the politics, the money, and the virus and vax data all point to another lockdown being highly highly unlikely.
  • kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Not Ranucanu'd out yet.. I just found this, my favourite, picture of her serving in the QF

    Her outfit looks a bit like the Romanian flag.
    The Romanian flag isn't white and gold.
    What does it look like? I'm almost moved to find out.
    It's a copy of the flag of Chad.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,033
    Leon said:

    The New York Times has done another British thing



    "The New York Times
    @nytimes
    ·
    1m
    Emma Raducanu’s victory at the U.S. Open was a kind of redemption for England after the country's soccer team suffered a heartbreaking defeat in the finals of Euro 2020."

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1437174226201501697?s=20

    I honestly thought they were going to write that it was a redemption for England after voting to leave the EU.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I did it and got a weird score of "fuck off I don't care", which probably equates to about 30%
  • CatMan said:

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I was curious about the test, so I did it, and got 90.66%. I suspect I didn't get 100% because a) I'm an Englishman living in Wales, and b) I'm half French. Some of the questions are fair enough, but the ones which critizied living somewhere where almost everyone is White were very disingenuous.
    I realised I may not get 100%

    I'm whiter (and veinily bluer) than any of the plasters I've ever bought.

    I can't work out whether that would give me more or less than 100% though..
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    Fishing said:

    Leon said:

    The New York Times has done another British thing



    "The New York Times
    @nytimes
    ·
    1m
    Emma Raducanu’s victory at the U.S. Open was a kind of redemption for England after the country's soccer team suffered a heartbreaking defeat in the finals of Euro 2020."

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1437174226201501697?s=20

    I honestly thought they were going to write that it was a redemption for England after voting to leave the EU.
    THEY DID

    "Like the national soccer team, Ms. Raducanu embodies the exuberant diversity of British society. Her victory is both a tacit repudiation of the anti-immigration fervor that fueled the Brexit vote in 2016 and a reminder that, whatever its politics, the polyglot Britain of today is a more complicated and interesting place."

    Their coverage of Britain is in a parallel universe where the Guardian has Herr Goebbels as its Tel Aviv correspondent in about 1962
  • CatMan said:

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I was curious about the test, so I did it, and got 90.66%. I suspect I didn't get 100% because a) I'm an Englishman living in Wales, and b) I'm half French. Some of the questions are fair enough, but the ones which critizied living somewhere where almost everyone is White were very disingenuous.
    That test is a parody right?

    "I walk into a supermarket and they rarely sell stuff my family traditionally eats" ? ???


    WTF. We must have the most cosmo supermarket food shelves in the frigging world. I mean, how else would the middle classes professionals fill their WFH time if not cooking cuisines from all over?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    edited September 2021
    Anthony Bourdain in Shanghai in about 2014. Jesus he saw it all coming
  • Leon said:

    Anthony Bourdain in Shanghai in about 2012. Jesus he saw it all coming

    His tv show was just brilliant.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,058
    edited September 2021

    CatMan said:

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I was curious about the test, so I did it, and got 90.66%. I suspect I didn't get 100% because a) I'm an Englishman living in Wales, and b) I'm half French. Some of the questions are fair enough, but the ones which critizied living somewhere where almost everyone is White were very disingenuous.
    That test is a parody right?

    "I walk into a supermarket and they rarely sell stuff my family traditionally eats" ? ???


    WTF. We must have the most cosmo supermarket food shelves in the frigging world. I mean, how else would the middle classes professionals fill their WFH time if not cooking cuisines from all over?
    Yes, and speaking as someone who would consider himself as Woke, that question was weird. Are British supermarkets supposed to sell food from every other country in the world?!
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,098
    IshmaelZ said:

    kinabalu said:

    Oh God, Johnson is "dead set" against another lockdown.

    Why am I filled with a sense of dread?

    There won't be another lockdown. PLEASE listen to me for once.
    Sure. But Johnson's wording worries me, because I didn't think there was even an argument about it. If he suddenly said he was dead set against the compulsory sterilisation of labour voters, would you find that not at all unsettling?

    Btw you can get a usef dvd of blade runner for about 3 quid. Just do it.
    Yes I don't go by what he says. That's a way to lose your bearings. DVD? Yes, could do, I have a player. Then again we're about to ditch old school cable and embrace streaming, and I hear that this opens up a massive library.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239

    Leon said:

    Anthony Bourdain in Shanghai in about 2012. Jesus he saw it all coming

    His tv show was just brilliant.
    A proper genius. Incredibly articulate, honest, clever, insightful. He makes political predictions that are - or were - way ahead of any pundit

    In this episode he skewers the New Chinese Rich mercilessly, by saying just nothing, and letting them speak for themselves
  • CatMan said:

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I was curious about the test, so I did it, and got 90.66%. I suspect I didn't get 100% because a) I'm an Englishman living in Wales, and b) I'm half French. Some of the questions are fair enough, but the ones which critizied living somewhere where almost everyone is White were very disingenuous.
    That test is a parody right?

    "I walk into a supermarket and they rarely sell stuff my family traditionally eats" ? ???


    WTF. We must have the most cosmo supermarket food shelves in the frigging world. I mean, how else would the middle classes professionals fill their WFH time if not cooking cuisines from all over?
    I don't think it's a parody. It appears to be part of a package of recommended reading for teachers in Scotland. I don't imagine it's a test actually stipulated as compulsory for them, but the government has recommended it as reading, and it recommends taking the test.

    It's from this (Scottish) website https://www.theantiracisteducator.com/about
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,058
    Leon said:

    The New York Times has done another British thing



    "The New York Times
    @nytimes
    ·
    1m
    Emma Raducanu’s victory at the U.S. Open was a kind of redemption for England after the country's soccer team suffered a heartbreaking defeat in the finals of Euro 2020."

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1437174226201501697?s=20

    "For long-suffering British sports fans"

    Someone needs to tell the New York Times it's not the 90s

  • Harry Cole
    @MrHarryCole
    ·
    1h
    PM will unveil his Winter Plan to avoid a Christmas lockdown — with booster jabs for the over-50s at its core.
    @TheSun
    can reveal third doses are to be rolled out in a similar way to the first vaccine drive, starting with the most elderly and vulnerable.
  • Farooq said:

    CatMan said:

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I was curious about the test, so I did it, and got 90.66%. I suspect I didn't get 100% because a) I'm an Englishman living in Wales, and b) I'm half French. Some of the questions are fair enough, but the ones which critizied living somewhere where almost everyone is White were very disingenuous.
    That test is a parody right?

    "I walk into a supermarket and they rarely sell stuff my family traditionally eats" ? ???


    WTF. We must have the most cosmo supermarket food shelves in the frigging world. I mean, how else would the middle classes professionals fill their WFH time if not cooking cuisines from all over?
    I don't think it's a parody. It appears to be part of a package of recommended reading for teachers in Scotland. I don't imagine it's a test actually stipulated as compulsory for them, but the government has recommended it as reading, and it recommends taking the test.

    It's from this (Scottish) website https://www.theantiracisteducator.com/about
    I have two questions:
    1. If you're going into teaching, is it a good idea to find ways to understand the experiences of those people who are not like you?
    2. Is this sort of thing a useful tool for achieving that understanding?
    Is calling it a White Privilege test, and awarding 100% to almost all white Brits, at all helpful in that regard?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,889
    Leon said:

    Fishing said:

    Leon said:

    The New York Times has done another British thing



    "The New York Times
    @nytimes
    ·
    1m
    Emma Raducanu’s victory at the U.S. Open was a kind of redemption for England after the country's soccer team suffered a heartbreaking defeat in the finals of Euro 2020."

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1437174226201501697?s=20

    I honestly thought they were going to write that it was a redemption for England after voting to leave the EU.
    THEY DID

    "Like the national soccer team, Ms. Raducanu embodies the exuberant diversity of British society. Her victory is both a tacit repudiation of the anti-immigration fervor that fueled the Brexit vote in 2016 and a reminder that, whatever its politics, the polyglot Britain of today is a more complicated and interesting place."

    Their coverage of Britain is in a parallel universe where the Guardian has Herr Goebbels as its Tel Aviv correspondent in about 1962
    91% of New York Times readers are Democrats, don't expect them to have anything favourable to say about Boris' post Brexit UK, they hate him almost as much as they hated Trump
    https://letter.ly/new-york-times-readership-statistics/
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    The New York Times has done another British thing



    "The New York Times
    @nytimes
    ·
    1m
    Emma Raducanu’s victory at the U.S. Open was a kind of redemption for England after the country's soccer team suffered a heartbreaking defeat in the finals of Euro 2020."

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1437174226201501697?s=20

    "For long-suffering British sports fans"

    Someone needs to tell the New York Times it's not the 90s
    Yes

    We won the rugby world cup - in high style

    We won the cricket world cup - in high style

    We have basically out performed every nation on earth, per capita, for the last 3 or 4 Olympics

    We have the most successful and most watched sports league, of any kind, in the world: the EPL

    English football is dominant in Europe

    We now have the world's biggest new sports star. Emma from Bromley


    If this is "long suffering" then what is *success*? Beating the Betelgeusians at intergalactic space-badminton?

    I am old enough to remember when Britain was indeed a tiny bit shit at too many sports, from about 1973-1999, and even when we did well - English footie teams in Europe - it was tainted (by hooliganism).

    The era since then has been very different. We have feasted on victory, in comparison
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    MaxPB said:

    isam said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    What's the secret? Her Dad is Romanian, so of course she both is, and is proud of being, part Romanian. Same way 3/4 of my girlfriends Grandparents were Irish, and she considers herself part Irish.
    Well indeed, but reading Twitter it's apparently some massive secret and she's not really British and it might finally be that one thing that reverses the leave vote. 🤷‍♂️
    IshmaelZ said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    How it always starts on here is always the same: someone with a foreign born parent wins something and everyone is delighted, and then some weapons-grade cocksucker comes along and says Hur Hur Hur, isn't it funny how all the people who object to furriners (spelt thus, because of how clever and funny that is) don't object to this particular furriner? And that's such an original and insightful point that a vigorous and good natured debate naturally ensues.
    Well said @IshmaelZ

    The strange thing is, the people saying it KNOW that the people they’re accusing of this double standard aren’t guilty of it, and the accused know that their accuser knows - so it’s all just a waste of time anyway.

    Some people are just seem compelled to make pompous fools of themselves
  • TresTres Posts: 2,694
    It's Sunday evening, it's PB contributors getting palpitations from having to think about racism time.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope that Emma Raducanu has stayed off Twitter. This argument about whether or not she's secretly Romanian is both patronising and racist. Why is it impossible to celebrate her victory and potentially amazing career she's got ahead of her without bringing race into it?

    Judging by her social media, she very rarely used Twitter, and all she does there is make anodyne and pleasant statements about her friends, her country, the royals, English football, F1, and her A Levels. Immensely sensible

    Her bigger presence is on Insta where she suddenly has 1.4m followers and is one of the biggest tennis stars on the planet already. If the Chinese really take to this Mandarin speaking teenager, she will own the world. Plus Tik Tok
    Yes I've followed her on Instagram along with what feels like half of my Instagram followers. If she actually does it herself it might be interesting, if it's just over managed and sanitised content loads of people will unfollow in a few weeks.
    Good for her. Let it stay sanitised and boring. She is just 18. She should steer entirely clear of politics and religion and Woke and anything like that. I doubt people will unfollow her. Fangirls will stan her to the edge of the universe

    She'll get 10m followers within a year, if she carries on winning
    Yes well if she keeps winning she'll be a global superstar. I also wouldn't want her to comment on any of that, Instagram isn't a good platform for it anyway. All you do is annoy everyone by talking about it. I think one of the Hadid sisters lost loads of followers when she started banging on about Israel/Palestine. People don't go on Instagram to be preached at, it's probably one of the last places on the internet that sits outside of politics.
    It is Twitter for good looking people
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118


    Harry Cole
    @MrHarryCole
    ·
    1h
    PM will unveil his Winter Plan to avoid a Christmas lockdown — with booster jabs for the over-50s at its core.
    @TheSun
    can reveal third doses are to be rolled out in a similar way to the first vaccine drive, starting with the most elderly and vulnerable.

    Bloody spoilt brat pensioners queue jumping as well as not getting taxed enough
  • Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    CatMan said:

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I was curious about the test, so I did it, and got 90.66%. I suspect I didn't get 100% because a) I'm an Englishman living in Wales, and b) I'm half French. Some of the questions are fair enough, but the ones which critizied living somewhere where almost everyone is White were very disingenuous.
    That test is a parody right?

    "I walk into a supermarket and they rarely sell stuff my family traditionally eats" ? ???


    WTF. We must have the most cosmo supermarket food shelves in the frigging world. I mean, how else would the middle classes professionals fill their WFH time if not cooking cuisines from all over?
    I don't think it's a parody. It appears to be part of a package of recommended reading for teachers in Scotland. I don't imagine it's a test actually stipulated as compulsory for them, but the government has recommended it as reading, and it recommends taking the test.

    It's from this (Scottish) website https://www.theantiracisteducator.com/about
    I have two questions:
    1. If you're going into teaching, is it a good idea to find ways to understand the experiences of those people who are not like you?
    2. Is this sort of thing a useful tool for achieving that understanding?
    Is calling it a White Privilege test, and awarding 100% to almost all white Brits, at all helpful in that regard?
    I don't know, but I get the sense your question is rhetorical whilst mine were not.
    Well, I do think the answer to my first question is "yes", but I can imaging some people disagreeing with that too.
    FWIW, if there is such a thing as white privilege, I'd expect white people to score highly on it, wouldn't you?
    I thought you made good points about the test. Apologies for not acknowledging them.

    My point may have been rhetorical, if rhetorical can mean trying to imply that naming it such was entirely unhelpful.

    Of course whites ought to score higher in a White Privilege test, but it's ludicrous that being white automatically gives you near 100%. And equally stupid that being non-white and not thinking that people look at you funny gives you "White Privilege". Which it does under this absurd test.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,399
    Canada polling. Voting a week tomorrow. Average of last 10 polls, final days 8-11 September. So after the French debate, and straddling the English.

    Libs 31.9 (-1.2)
    Con 31.4 (-2.9)
    NDP 18.4 (+2.4)
    PPC 7.7 (+6.1)
    BQ 6.0 (-1.6)
    Green 3.6 (-3.0) Changes with last election.

    Trudeau is coming with a late run again. Ironically, though, the Tories are getting greater vote efficiency this time, so may come closer in terms of seats. Indeed, it isn't inconceivable they could get fewer votes, but most seats. A complete turnaround.
    PPC continuing to rise on the back of opposition to vaccines, vaxports, climate policies and gun laws. Amongst other things.
    Things look much, much better for Justin than a fortnight ago.
    Still time for it to change.
    Tories heavily trying to convince PPC folk that they won't win a seat (probably) under FPTP.
    Logic, mystifyingly, isn't working on them.
  • No one gives a fcuk about men’s tennis any longer it appears.
  • Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    CatMan said:

    Just seen this on twitter, clip of the Sturge unable to answer Trevor Philips's questions about the White Privilege test the SNP wants all teachers to take - https://twitter.com/HebrideanUK/status/1436977125727289347

    I found the test here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4UDPSO2L6z_9gfrptSSTBTpEgvkgBSA/view

    And I can't see how any white Brit wouldn't get a 100% White Privilege score.

    What a fucking pointless and time wasting bit of virtue signalling.

    Has any white Brit done the test and got less than 100% White Privilege?

    Has any non-white Brit done it?
    I was curious about the test, so I did it, and got 90.66%. I suspect I didn't get 100% because a) I'm an Englishman living in Wales, and b) I'm half French. Some of the questions are fair enough, but the ones which critizied living somewhere where almost everyone is White were very disingenuous.
    That test is a parody right?

    "I walk into a supermarket and they rarely sell stuff my family traditionally eats" ? ???


    WTF. We must have the most cosmo supermarket food shelves in the frigging world. I mean, how else would the middle classes professionals fill their WFH time if not cooking cuisines from all over?
    I don't think it's a parody. It appears to be part of a package of recommended reading for teachers in Scotland. I don't imagine it's a test actually stipulated as compulsory for them, but the government has recommended it as reading, and it recommends taking the test.

    It's from this (Scottish) website https://www.theantiracisteducator.com/about
    I have two questions:
    1. If you're going into teaching, is it a good idea to find ways to understand the experiences of those people who are not like you?
    2. Is this sort of thing a useful tool for achieving that understanding?
    Is calling it a White Privilege test, and awarding 100% to almost all white Brits, at all helpful in that regard?
    I don't know, but I get the sense your question is rhetorical whilst mine were not.
    Well, I do think the answer to my first question is "yes", but I can imaging some people disagreeing with that too.
    FWIW, if there is such a thing as white privilege, I'd expect white people to score highly on it, wouldn't you?
    I thought you made good points about the test. Apologies for not acknowledging them.

    My point may have been rhetorical, if rhetorical can mean trying to imply that naming it such was entirely unhelpful.

    Of course whites ought to score higher in a White Privilege test, but it's ludicrous that being white automatically gives you near 100%. And equally stupid that being non-white and not thinking that people look at you funny gives you "White Privilege". Which it does under this absurd test.
    Well, I guess we were focused on different things. For me, what you call it isn't the important think. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet".

    As long as it's a white rose, of course.
    What we call things is so important. In so many many ways.
  • So Blanche is taking over the threads..

    Hope that doesn't get you in trouble in France
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