Also says "Cash out £12.91". Do I get the stake back too with that?
I'd guess that includes the stake.
Thanks. It is now at £20.12. So I suppose I will cash out if it reaches, say, £30. Thanks PB for the education.
The general advice, from a pure value perspective, is to never cash out.
Each time you bet, you pay the bookie overround. Cashing out, rather than waiting for it to settle, means you pay it twice.
Only cash out if you think the opposite outcome is more likely than the stated odds indicate. Basically, treat each bet as an individual proposition. The +-figure should be meaningless in your calculation.
Also says "Cash out £12.91". Do I get the stake back too with that?
I'd guess that includes the stake.
Thanks. It is now at £20.12. So I suppose I will cash out if it reaches, say, £30. Thanks PB for the education.
The general advice, from a pure value perspective, is to never cash out.
Each time you bet, you pay the bookie overround. Cashing out, rather than waiting for it to settle, means you pay it twice.
Only cash out if you think the opposite outcome is more likely than the stated odds indicate. Basically, treat each bet as an individual proposition. The +-figure should be meaningless in your calculation.
Ah, I see. I am paying for the bookmaker's services twice because I am, in effect, betting twice?
Wowsers. To think people laughed at people paying more tax.
Boris Johnson's National Insurance increase could result in the breakdown of families and deter companies from hiring new staff and increasing wages, according to the Government's own analysis.
A bombshell impact assessment produced by HM Revenue and Customs for the Treasury warned that one effect of the 1.25 percentage point tax increase "may be an impact on family formation, stability or breakdown as individuals, who are currently just about managing financially, will see their disposable income reduce".
The disclosure comes as several MPs in Red Wall seats said they faced a major backlash from constituents over the move. One MP said they had received angry letters referring to the levy as the "poll tax 2.0" – a phrase that was also used spontaneously by voters in a focus group in a northern city last week.
What is the problem? Doesn't everyone have wealthy benefactors to help out when finances are tight, like when the wife maxxes out the £52,000 credit card limit on curtains and wallpaper?
It feels like Fernandez is having to take more risks.
Well, she will in the next service game, as one break and she loses the set.
But I think on the whole she is playing the smarter tennis by being more aggressive. She’s not going to beat somebody playing like Raducanu has played being defensive, is she?
Muge Cevik @mugecevik · 1h It’s very irresponsible reporting the number of cases among vaccinated without mentioning the baseline vaccination rates. Your QTs are full of people, who think vaccines don’t work. Well done @itvnews
No lead for Labour in the crucial Oponiumyum. AND ONLY A TEENY DROP FOR THE CONSERVATIVES after the week they have had. LAB: 38% CON: 38% (-2) LDM: 8% (+1) GRN: 6% (=) SNP: 5% (-1)
Arch Remainer Starmer can’t win back Red Brex. Labour in trouble at next election. They just weren’t ready for what the Tories were going to do this week to take the chance, Red Brex are back on the Tory Train now.
Starmer’s blown it!
You may be right, but please show your workings, otherwise it looks like you are just guessing.
No lead for Labour in the crucial Oponiumyum. AND ONLY A TEENY DROP FOR THE CONSERVATIVES after the week they have had. LAB: 38% CON: 38% (-2) LDM: 8% (+1) GRN: 6% (=) SNP: 5% (-1)
Arch Remainer Starmer can’t win back Red Brex. Labour in trouble at next election. They just weren’t ready for what the Tories were going to do this week to take the chance, Red Brex are back on the Tory Train now.
Starmer’s blown it!
You may be right, but please show your workings, otherwise it looks like you are just guessing.
Already posted below by carlotta sense.
I’ll dig them out for you now so the penny can drop for you.
Muge Cevik @mugecevik · 1h It’s very irresponsible reporting the number of cases among vaccinated without mentioning the baseline vaccination rates. Your QTs are full of people, who think vaccines don’t work. Well done @itvnews
Wait until they find out how many car crash fatalities were wearing seatbelts!
Muge Cevik @mugecevik · 1h It’s very irresponsible reporting the number of cases among vaccinated without mentioning the baseline vaccination rates. Your QTs are full of people, who think vaccines don’t work. Well done @itvnews
Wait until they find out how many car crash fatalities were wearing seatbelts!
I was going to say cycle accidents and helmets, but people do actually still debate that one apparently.
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
.
Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
Fernandez out to 6. A surprisingly thin market though.
LOL I've just realised there are two markets and she is even longer on the match compared with the outright. Am I missing something because there really should not be any difference?
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
.
Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
No lead for Labour in the crucial Oponiumyum. AND ONLY A TEENY DROP FOR THE CONSERVATIVES after the week they have had. LAB: 38% CON: 38% (-2) LDM: 8% (+1) GRN: 6% (=) SNP: 5% (-1)
Arch Remainer Starmer can’t win back Red Brex. Labour in trouble at next election. They just weren’t ready for what the Tories were going to do this week to take the chance, Red Brex are back on the Tory Train now.
Starmer’s blown it!
You may be right, but please show your workings, otherwise it looks like you are just guessing.
Already posted below by carlotta sense.
I’ll dig them out for you now so the penny can drop for you.
Very little of what Carlotta posts makes sense to me!
For what it is worth I believe the Conservatives are odds on for an albeit reduced majority in 2024. However the polls have suggested over the last few days that a handful of their percentage point support is rather soft.
My view has always been what happens to the post Brexit, post Covid economy. If it bombs Johnson is on his way to earning millions per night on the US after dinner circuit. If it booms he remains in Prime Ministerial penury.
If the economy bombs Starmer being in Nippy's pocket will be less of an issue.
Muge Cevik @mugecevik · 1h It’s very irresponsible reporting the number of cases among vaccinated without mentioning the baseline vaccination rates. Your QTs are full of people, who think vaccines don’t work. Well done @itvnews
Wait until they find out how many car crash fatalities were wearing seatbelts!
I was going to say cycle accidents and helmets, but people do actually still debate that one apparently.
No lead for Labour in the crucial Oponiumyum. AND ONLY A TEENY DROP FOR THE CONSERVATIVES after the week they have had. LAB: 38% CON: 38% (-2) LDM: 8% (+1) GRN: 6% (=) SNP: 5% (-1)
Arch Remainer Starmer can’t win back Red Brex. Labour in trouble at next election. They just weren’t ready for what the Tories were going to do this week to take the chance, Red Brex are back on the Tory Train now.
Starmer’s blown it!
You may be right, but please show your workings, otherwise it looks like you are just guessing.
Already posted below by carlotta sense.
I’ll dig them out for you now so the penny can drop for you.
This mid term is a disaster for Labour and Starmer, just not getting Red Brex back on board.
Ignore the headlines, or any leads under about 15%, con to d/k is switchback
Cons not switching to Lab in big numbers:
What would 2019 Conservative voters do now?(Compared to 13th May, the peak of the Tory vaccine bounce)
Stick with the Tories: 66% (-16) Switch to Labour: 5% (+2) Switch to other parties: 10% (+5) Undecided about how they would vote: 18% (+8)
Thank you @tlg86 for keeping your mouth shut and letting matters improve.
One thing that is notable is that serving isn’t the usual decisive advantage. It’s as though the other is returning in ways they don’t quite expect and they don’t know how to handle it.
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
.
Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
For me, and bearing in mind I am really not a fan of socialism at all, I think it is ridiculous to claim that it belongs to one side or another. It is a poem/song about hope and striving for a better country. That belongs to all mainstream political parties - or should anyway. I love Jerusalem for its poignancy and it is a million times better as a song and a tune than, for example, Rule Britannia.
Interesting that both players have had lots of break points, but taken far less of them compared to their average thus far in the tournament - that's battling tennis.
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
.
Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
For me, and bearing in mind I am really not a fan of socialism at all, I think it is ridiculous to claim that it belongs to one side or another. It is a poem/song about hope and striving for a better country. That belongs to all mainstream political parties - or should anyway. I love Jerusalem for its poignancy and it is a million times better as a song and a tune than, for example, Rule Britannia.
Hear, hear: I am a fan of neither socialism, nor organized religion, but Jerusalem is a beautiful poem, and a very complex piece of music.
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
.
Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
For me, and bearing in mind I am really not a fan of socialism at all, I think it is ridiculous to claim that it belongs to one side or another. It is a poem/song about hope and striving for a better country. That belongs to all mainstream political parties - or should anyway. I love Jerusalem for its poignancy and it is a million times better as a song and a tune than, for example, Rule Britannia.
Hear, hear: I am a fan of neither socialism, nor organized religion, but Jerusalem is a beautiful poem, and a very complex piece of music.
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
.
Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
For me, and bearing in mind I am really not a fan of socialism at all, I think it is ridiculous to claim that it belongs to one side or another. It is a poem/song about hope and striving for a better country. That belongs to all mainstream political parties - or should anyway. I love Jerusalem for its poignancy and it is a million times better as a song and a tune than, for example, Rule Britannia.
Hear, hear: I am a fan of neither socialism, nor organized religion, but Jerusalem is a beautiful poem, and a very complex piece of music.
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More fool them if they don't.
Thoroughly ashamed I am.
But I think on the whole she is playing the smarter tennis by being more aggressive. She’s not going to beat somebody playing like Raducanu has played being defensive, is she?
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It’s very irresponsible reporting the number of cases among vaccinated without mentioning the baseline vaccination rates. Your QTs are full of people, who think vaccines don’t work.
Well done @itvnews
What was that about taking too many risks?
They've both turned up. What more can you ask for.
And Fernandez has more miles in her legs than Raducanu - although given her youth that shouldn’t be a fatal problem for her.
Raducanu 1.23
Fernandez 5.2
US Open 1.23
I’ll dig them out for you now so the penny can drop for you.
Edit - although that was a lovely set up to win that game.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton.
the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
deucewin the game from 0-40 down on serve again.She’s tough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--dfp4b6akU
For what it is worth I believe the Conservatives are odds on for an albeit reduced majority in 2024. However the polls have suggested over the last few days that a handful of their percentage point support is rather soft.
My view has always been what happens to the post Brexit, post Covid economy. If it bombs Johnson is on his way to earning millions per night on the US after dinner circuit. If it booms he remains in Prime Ministerial penury.
If the economy bombs Starmer being in Nippy's pocket will be less of an issue.
https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1436804678470316032?s=20
Edit: And appears to be the most read story.
Ignore the headlines, or any leads under about 15%, con to d/k is switchback
Cons not switching to Lab in big numbers:
What would 2019 Conservative voters do now?(Compared to 13th May, the peak of the Tory vaccine bounce)
Stick with the Tories: 66% (-16)
Switch to Labour: 5% (+2)
Switch to other parties: 10% (+5)
Undecided about how they would vote: 18% (+8)
https://twitter.com/OpiniumResearch/status/1436766744056524800?s=20
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This simply isn’t good enough,
@itvnews
. Inaccurate, high profile stories like this fuel vaccine hesitancy.
You have no idea how utterly wretched it is to care for unvaccinated patients as they die from Covid - whose lives need not have been lost.
If you knew what you were doing in-play betting would be some easy money.
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One thing that is notable is that serving isn’t the usual decisive advantage. It’s as though the other is returning in ways they don’t quite expect and they don’t know how to handle it.
PMSL 😂😂😂
And it doesn't belong to anyone.
But - you have to say she is now up against it. It’s no chances tennis.
She is phenomenal.
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