So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
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The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
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Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
For me, and bearing in mind I am really not a fan of socialism at all, I think it is ridiculous to claim that it belongs to one side or another. It is a poem/song about hope and striving for a better country. That belongs to all mainstream political parties - or should anyway. I love Jerusalem for its poignancy and it is a million times better as a song and a tune than, for example, Rule Britannia.
Hear, hear: I am a fan of neither socialism, nor organized religion, but Jerusalem is a beautiful poem, and a very complex piece of music.
It’s just too damn hard on my organ.
Are you channelling TSE now ? Ooh arr Mrs!
Nah, it’s just that my organ for all its breadth and 16 foot horn has only two manuals and therefore you can’t do the contrasts easily.
At Cannock, where you have a bit in reserve, it’s easier to do the climax.
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
.
Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
For me, and bearing in mind I am really not a fan of socialism at all, I think it is ridiculous to claim that it belongs to one side or another. It is a poem/song about hope and striving for a better country. That belongs to all mainstream political parties - or should anyway. I love Jerusalem for its poignancy and it is a million times better as a song and a tune than, for example, Rule Britannia.
Hear, hear: I am a fan of neither socialism, nor organized religion, but Jerusalem is a beautiful poem, and a very complex piece of music.
It’s just too damn hard on my organ.
Blake was a bit of a weirdo. A bit of a mystic. There's probably more going on for Blake in there than the modern reader can really understand. Still, that's beside the point. I have genuinely no objection to socialists taking what they want from it; nor, I think, do socialists seem to object to Last-Night-of-the-Proms types liking it. (They object to LNOTP in general, but that's different). We can't even manage to steer through football tournaments with such levels of concord between left and right. And rightly so; there are sentiments in there we can all agree with. "I love my country. I recognise its faults and will strive to rectify them." Who couldn't concur? As I said, whether that's what Blake meant, I doubt - given that he was a bit odd. But he's long dead and in no position to quibble.
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. I
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
.
Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
the one reference to a mill dark and satanic is poetic reference to an actual mill gutted by fire standing between a poet’s home and his bread shop – possibly gutted in industrial dispute over pay. Blake believed in hell, to him this ruin looked like hell had visited it. This is what poets do.
It’s not written as a hymn called Jerusalem - who said it was, it’s preamble to Milton. the reference to Jerusalem is Blake’s genuine belief Jesus and Joseph were building a bit of Jerusalem here. They were here, it may have been more than business, they may have been looking for a bolt hole if the sectarian war got much worse. As it proved, despite being on the leadership council, Joseph couldn’t stop them getting Jesus bumped off.
As an historical person Jesus is certainly not wholly owned by Christianity. Not that his own religion cares to make much fuss of him. He was a Jew, called Yeshua, likely born into an extended family with Hellenised (Greek influenced) views, so possible but not certain he may have heard the Greek words Jesus and Christ in his lifetime. Why is Christianity so Greek? It was a language most widely used, so Romans utilised Greek to promote their empire, that was essentially a commercial project. The language of the Roman Empire was Greek. The first Christian documents, those of Paul, were written in Greek whilst in Greece. In the sectarian make up of Judea at the time of Yeshua’s birth there is likely to have been contention between Hellenised Jews, looking to adopt Greek Platonic philosophy along with the Torah, versus Orthodox Jews, such as the Pharisee, opposing this approach. So a child born not just into a family of wealth, religious and political leadership, but born moreover into sectarian disagreement.
Before the time of his ministry there is something like a “gap year” about a decade and a half little evidence what young Yeshua was up to, other than he was associate of Joseph of Arimathea - this is someone who may have been Yeshua’s relative such as his Mother’s Uncle, for the considerate in loco parentis he showed Yoshua throughout remainder of his life and death we can call him Uncle. Uncle Joseph was a wealthy Rabbi, with trading links around the Mediterranean, Europe including Britain, also worked on building projects in pursuit of “the kingdom”. He may have been an Essenes - the sect who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls. It’s widely documented Joseph swapped the sunny skies of Judea for our clouded hills and pastures green at least once, he died at Glastonbury. And not simply in exile or mission, its possible for someone with his wealth and business links he owned the settlement and the surrounding lands.
Blake enthusiastically researched the oral history’s of Britain, Europe and the Mediterranean looking for and finding correlating evidence for Yeshua’s visit to Britain.
In the poets mind it was literal. You are projecting. And wrong.
For me, and bearing in mind I am really not a fan of socialism at all, I think it is ridiculous to claim that it belongs to one side or another. It is a poem/song about hope and striving for a better country. That belongs to all mainstream political parties - or should anyway. I love Jerusalem for its poignancy and it is a million times better as a song and a tune than, for example, Rule Britannia.
Hear, hear: I am a fan of neither socialism, nor organized religion, but Jerusalem is a beautiful poem, and a very complex piece of music.
It’s just too damn hard on my organ.
Blake was a bit of a weirdo. A bit of a mystic. There's probably more going on for Blake in there than the modern reader can really understand. Still, that's beside the point. I have genuinely no objection to socialists taking what they want from it; nor, I think, do socialists seem to object to Last-Night-of-the-Proms types liking it. (They object to LNOTP in general, but that's different). We can't even manage to steer through football tournaments with such levels of concord between left and right. And rightly so; there are sentiments in there we can all agree with. "I love my country. I recognise its faults and will strive to rectify them." Who couldn't concur? As I said, whether that's what Blake meant, I doubt - given that he was a bit odd. But he's long dead and in no position to quibble.
He was as mad as a meat axe, and anybody who cannot recognise that from Jerusalem itself has no hope of understanding it. Nor has anyone else mind.
Piers Morgan @piersmorgan Stop it, snowflakes. The last thing Emma needs right now is weak-worshipping Twitter telling her 'you're still a winner even if you lose!' She's a winner if she wins - and she knows that which is why I think she'll win.
Hasn't dropped a set all tournament. From an 18 year old qualifier. Absolutely amazing. Nailed on SPOTY and rightly so. Congratulations to all who got on her at good odds.
Tennis is rough on losers, having to sit there for ages as crowds cheer and your opponent laps it up (though can be even worse - as when Serena acted like a baby and the crowd was not happy with Osaka so it was hard on the winner too).
These 2 are going to dominate women’s tennis for a decade. Only S Williams has ever hit the ball so hard so consistently. Very few others will be able to live with this.
She's only lost 34 games in 20 sets of tennis to win the championship.
That's an average set of 6-1.7 which is frankly unbelievable and must be one of the best of that stat ever achieved (if anyone's bothered to count it before!)
I am profoundly sad that some of you thought I was promoting an anti vax agenda here. As I said in this thread, the evidence on vaccination reducing SEVERE disease is clear and unambiguous. I am wholeheartedly in favour of vaccination. But Covid, even for the vaccinated, is…
That was something incredible to see. She is a well deserved winner and seems to have to the incredible raw natural talent that Raducanu could be a name we're hearing for many years to come.
She's only lost 34 games in 20 sets of tennis to win the championship.
That's an average set of 6-1.7 which is frankly unbelievable and must be one of the best of that stat ever achieved (if anyone's bothered to count it before!)
You play and win like that it almost feels like you retire immediately because how do you ever top that one again? Winning 10 matches at a Slam without dropping a set? Madness.
I am profoundly sad that some of you thought I was promoting an anti vax agenda here. As I said in this thread, the evidence on vaccination reducing SEVERE disease is clear and unambiguous. I am wholeheartedly in favour of vaccination. But Covid, even for the vaccinated, is…
Robert Peston @Peston Replying to @Peston not a trivial illness. And it is also not trivial if the vaccinated population spreads Covid to the unvaccinated or the immuno suppressed. So what I hoped to do was show that even for a vaccinated population, mask wearing and social distancing are important. I am very very…
No, sorry, I’m not changing my behaviour to protect anti-vaxxers.
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At Cannock, where you have a bit in reserve, it’s easier to do the climax.
Edit - and now Raducanu has to serve out, when serving has not been easy. This is a stern test of her nerve.
Still, that's beside the point. I have genuinely no objection to socialists taking what they want from it; nor, I think, do socialists seem to object to Last-Night-of-the-Proms types liking it. (They object to LNOTP in general, but that's different).
We can't even manage to steer through football tournaments with such levels of concord between left and right.
And rightly so; there are sentiments in there we can all agree with. "I love my country. I recognise its faults and will strive to rectify them." Who couldn't concur?
As I said, whether that's what Blake meant, I doubt - given that he was a bit odd. But he's long dead and in no position to quibble.
https://mobile.twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1436783292242669569
Piers Morgan
@piersmorgan
Stop it, snowflakes.
The last thing Emma needs right now is weak-worshipping Twitter telling her 'you're still a winner even if you lose!'
She's a winner if she wins - and she knows that which is why I think she'll win.
Own up, which one of you is Piers Morgan
What is Fernandez s beef?
Well, that’s one way to settle it.
Ten matches and didn’t drop a set? Just…Wow.
What a Champion!
So at wimbledon is it emma escarpment now?
Fantastic and marvellous
Forget politics this is just the best
Absolutely amazing. Nailed on SPOTY and rightly so. Congratulations to all who got on her at good odds.
From unknown and unheard of student doing Wimbledon just before her A-Levels, to US Open Champion.
Wow, just wow.
All I did was doubt.
And Andy Murray can retire knowing British tennis has a new standard bearer.
Poor Fernandez is distraught which is understandable. But I am sure she will be back.
‘Beauty needs no resumé’
Yep. Somebody is defo joking…
That's an average set of 6-1.7 which is frankly unbelievable and must be one of the best of that stat ever achieved (if anyone's bothered to count it before!)
I am profoundly sad that some of you thought I was promoting an anti vax agenda here. As I said in this thread, the evidence on vaccination reducing SEVERE disease is clear and unambiguous. I am wholeheartedly in favour of vaccination. But Covid, even for the vaccinated, is…
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1436808696848429060?s=20
Astonishing.
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not a trivial illness. And it is also not trivial if the vaccinated population spreads Covid to the unvaccinated or the immuno suppressed. So what I hoped to do was show that even for a vaccinated population, mask wearing and social distancing are important. I am very very…
No, sorry, I’m not changing my behaviour to protect anti-vaxxers.
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What a sensational match! Huge congratulations to @EmmaRaducanu
You showed extraordinary skill, poise and guts and we are all hugely proud of you.
#USOpen"
I hope Emma says "Fuck New York, you're finished, hahahaha, and who cares about firefighters anyway"