Know nowt about tennis. Rugby League is my game. And I can spot biased patriotic odds too. On which topic. Catalans Dragons, of Perpignan France have won 19 games and lost 2 finishing top of the league. Despite flying in and out same day for all their games in England because of Covid. To win the Grand Final and Championship they will need to win one home playoff game. Then the GF at Old Trafford. Available odds for this eminently acheivable feat? Well 3-1 at Skybet. Better than 5/2 everywhere. They aren't even favourites! Basically being given coin toss odds of winning 2 games because they are foreign. I mean DYOR. But to me that's an absolute steal.
NB. They have the added bonus of being the best all round side in the competition. It isn't a fluke in the slightest.
Thank you. Doing it. Great to get a value bet on something I'm clueless about.
I used to abhor ladies tennis - just best of three sets, endless baseline rallies (starting with Chris Evert) etc, but now it's the men's game I abhor with it's emphasis on power and speed as the be all and end all. Looking forward to this final. Really don't care much who wins but I think it will be Raducanu.
Raducanu - despite being a slight 18 year old - is a very powerful player. She hits the ball enormously hard.
The ostensibly rational bet at the odds is Fernandez but in horse race terms Raducanu is unexposed. She's won every match easily and you don't know how much more she has. It's possible she's a phenom, the sort of player who comes along once in a blue moon. In which case she'll smash this final and that 1.7 will in retro look a steal.
Fernandez massive value at 2.7 or so, she has come through tough matches and has beaten the 2,3,5 seeds whereas Raducanu hasn't played anyone above 12th
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
They are as predictable as Daily Mail photos of hot teen girls jumping up and down, celebrating their A Level results
And both are as British as, well, the Last Night of the Proms
The thing I never understand about the Last Night angst, the Boat Race etc etc is that it is such a small part of national life - you can ignore it trivially.
Mind you, there is nothing quite like watching idiots marooning their cars in the Thames, by parking on boat ramps without permission, while seated in a good pub. There is something very calming about sipping a pint and watching the water crawling towards the morons Chelsea tractor......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. It’s no better or worse than another express article about sizzling weather or princess diana
Not sure why the Guardian is so anti Last Night of the Prom or indeed the Boat race given the average reader of of their paper is a lot more likely to participate or watch either than the average bloke or gal-Perhaps a case of Robert Peston levels of self loathing (with his krap about being a middle aged white man and so lucky to be in a job there of )
Not sure many Guardian readers could bear to watch Last Night of the Prom. I couldn't and I'm not a Guardian reader.
Of course they do , so they can secretly like it and then write how awfullly white and middle class it is. A bit like when undercover reporters used to act shocked when they did (numerous) undercover visits to sex shows in Soho in the 1960s 70s
Guardian readers secretly like lots of things that are awfully white and middle class, but I'm pretty sure that the Last Night of the Proms isn't one of them.
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
EEA-ish is the plan for next GE, though clear hints that Rejoin is the ultimate aim longer term.
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
EEA-ish is the plan for next GE, though clear hints that Rejoin is the ultimate aim longer term.
I would be content with the first suggestion but not the second
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
EEA-ish is the plan for next GE, though clear hints that Rejoin is the ultimate aim longer term.
I would be content with the first suggestion but not the second
I think the LibDems would be mad to have a policy beyond "closer ties".
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
EEA-ish is the plan for next GE, though clear hints that Rejoin is the ultimate aim longer term.
I would be content with the first suggestion but not the second
I think the LibDems would be mad to have a policy beyond "closer ties".
I think that is how it will be phrased.
It only matters in a minority government though, and wouldn't rub any party other than the Tories the wrong way.
Plans for Covid vaccinations for 12- to 15-year-olds across the UK are to be announced by the government this week, with a mass inoculation programme beginning in schools within two weeks, the Observer has been told.
New proposals for a Covid booster programme are also expected to be set out on Tuesday, but it is thought ministers may be backing away from plans for Covid passports in confined settings such as nightclubs amid opposition from some Tory MPs.
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
I'm not a Lib Dem; heck my political streetfighting years were working against the Yellow Peril. But I can't imagine them offering rejoin in 2024.
The more interesting question is- what if their offer goes something like this;
1 Put a pause on the Pacific stuff. It's unlikely to have come into much force by then, and it doesn't look like a pot of gold, anyway.
2 Move quickly to smooth the flows with the EU- shadow their food standards, allow Euro lorries to do local jobs on the way home. That sort of thing. Hard Brexit without the barbed wire, if you like.
3 Move towards something like EEA by the end of the decade. Largely on their terms (80:20, say) because that's the realpolitilk.
4 (Very Sotto Voce, but there for those with ears to hear) And if in a decade's time, the will of the people is to rejoin, we will facilitate that. Don't worry, we're not talking about doing it now, but we will ensure that our children don't have the option taken away from them.
I half hope they don't say this, because I'd rather not feel I ought to vote for them...
Plans for Covid vaccinations for 12- to 15-year-olds across the UK are to be announced by the government this week, with a mass inoculation programme beginning in schools within two weeks, the Observer has been told.
New proposals for a Covid booster programme are also expected to be set out on Tuesday, but it is thought ministers may be backing away from plans for Covid passports in confined settings such as nightclubs amid opposition from some Tory MPs.
Fernandez massive value at 2.7 or so, she has come through tough matches and has beaten the 2,3,5 seeds whereas Raducanu hasn't played anyone above 12th
On the other hand, at the start of the US Open, Raducanu was 400/1 against, while Fernandez was 900/1. Fernandez' weakness appears to be her serve.
ETA I've saved on Fernandez, having backed Raducanu earlier in the tournament at the same time as doubting on pb that she was a good bet for SPotY because the US Open was not on proper telly. Now it is. (In my defence, I did go on to say things would change if she picked up some adverts on the back of her success.)
I don't particularly like tennis. But it is definitely a proper sport. Tom Daley be be very talented at making an implausibly tiny splash, but diving is Not A Proper Sport and having a diver winning SPOTY would be a national humiliation on a par with the fall of Singapore. Swimming is a proper sport, but breast stroke is just swimming needlessly slowly, and having Adam Peaty win would be like having a backwards runner winning it. Nothing against Peaty or Daley, who are both talented and hard working individuals, but the events they excel in are ridiculous.
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
I'm not a Lib Dem; heck my political streetfighting years were working against the Yellow Peril. But I can't imagine them offering rejoin in 2024.
The more interesting question is- what if their offer goes something like this;
1 Put a pause on the Pacific stuff. It's unlikely to have come into much force by then, and it doesn't look like a pot of gold, anyway.
2 Move quickly to smooth the flows with the EU- shadow their food standards, allow Euro lorries to do local jobs on the way home. That sort of thing. Hard Brexit without the barbed wire, if you like.
3 Move towards something like EEA by the end of the decade. Largely on their terms (80:20, say) because that's the realpolitilk.
4 (Very Sotto Voce, but there for those with ears to hear) And if in a decade's time, the will of the people is to rejoin, we will facilitate that. Don't worry, we're not talking about doing it now, but we will ensure that our children don't have the option taken away from them.
I half hope they don't say this, because I'd rather not feel I ought to vote for them...
And I would be fine with that but for 4
I also want to hear their tax and spend policies as well as building more homes
Lot of volatility in the Canadian polls currently. Note the big jump in support for Bernier (NOT Barnier) and the People's Party of Canada. Liberals just ahead in Ontario but BQ leading in Quebec.
Some very different numbers than in other polls.
Better news for Trudeau from Nanos and Mainstreet today.
Nanos has the Liberals 4% ahead and Mainstreet has the Liberals 3.7% ahead.
EKOS has the Conservatives still ahead by 0.5% but the Liberals have a 5% lead over the Conservatives in Ontario and the Liberals lead in Quebec by 31% to 21% for the Conservatives with the BQ on 20%
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
They are as predictable as Daily Mail photos of hot teen girls jumping up and down, celebrating their A Level results
And both are as British as, well, the Last Night of the Proms
The thing I never understand about the Last Night angst, the Boat Race etc etc is that it is such a small part of national life - you can ignore it trivially.
Mind you, there is nothing quite like watching idiots marooning their cars in the Thames, by parking on boat ramps without permission, while seated in a good pub. There is something very calming about sipping a pint and watching the water crawling towards the morons Chelsea tractor......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. It’s no better or worse than another express article about sizzling weather or princess diana
Not sure why the Guardian is so anti Last Night of the Prom or indeed the Boat race given the average reader of of their paper is a lot more likely to participate or watch either than the average bloke or gal-Perhaps a case of Robert Peston levels of self loathing (with his krap about being a middle aged white man and so lucky to be in a job there of )
Not sure many Guardian readers could bear to watch Last Night of the Prom. I couldn't and I'm not a Guardian reader.
Of course they do , so they can secretly like it and then write how awfullly white and middle class it is. A bit like when undercover reporters used to act shocked when they did (numerous) undercover visits to sex shows in Soho in the 1960s 70s
Guardian readers secretly like lots of things that are awfully white and middle class, but I'm pretty sure that the Last Night of the Proms isn't one of them.
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
I'm not a Lib Dem; heck my political streetfighting years were working against the Yellow Peril. But I can't imagine them offering rejoin in 2024.
The more interesting question is- what if their offer goes something like this;
1 Put a pause on the Pacific stuff. It's unlikely to have come into much force by then, and it doesn't look like a pot of gold, anyway.
2 Move quickly to smooth the flows with the EU- shadow their food standards, allow Euro lorries to do local jobs on the way home. That sort of thing. Hard Brexit without the barbed wire, if you like.
3 Move towards something like EEA by the end of the decade. Largely on their terms (80:20, say) because that's the realpolitilk.
4 (Very Sotto Voce, but there for those with ears to hear) And if in a decade's time, the will of the people is to rejoin, we will facilitate that. Don't worry, we're not talking about doing it now, but we will ensure that our children don't have the option taken away from them.
I half hope they don't say this, because I'd rather not feel I ought to vote for them...
That is pretty much the policy as I understand it.
Yes, Amazon Prime has kept the internet rights so go there to watch over the web. Channel 4 has acquired from them the (television) broadcast rights. You can probably sign up to a month's free trial of Amazon Prime but remember to cancel it before it automatically rolls over and starts charging you.
INSA/BamS: SPD 26 % | CDU/CSU 20 % | GRÜNE 15 % | FDP 13 % | AfD 11 % | DIE LINKE 6 % | Sonstige 9 %
SPD appears to have plateaued at 26% but things are still dire for the CDU/CSU.
I pay the most interest to INSA polling because it was the most accurate German polling institute in 2017 and got the SPD and AfD shares in particular spot on.
Prosecutors have raided Scholz's Finance Ministry however over allegations into how it investigated money laundering, although he should be safe it is not what he wanted in the last weeks of the campaign
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
I'm not a Lib Dem; heck my political streetfighting years were working against the Yellow Peril. But I can't imagine them offering rejoin in 2024.
The more interesting question is- what if their offer goes something like this;
1 Put a pause on the Pacific stuff. It's unlikely to have come into much force by then, and it doesn't look like a pot of gold, anyway.
2 Move quickly to smooth the flows with the EU- shadow their food standards, allow Euro lorries to do local jobs on the way home. That sort of thing. Hard Brexit without the barbed wire, if you like.
3 Move towards something like EEA by the end of the decade. Largely on their terms (80:20, say) because that's the realpolitilk.
4 (Very Sotto Voce, but there for those with ears to hear) And if in a decade's time, the will of the people is to rejoin, we will facilitate that. Don't worry, we're not talking about doing it now, but we will ensure that our children don't have the option taken away from them.
I half hope they don't say this, because I'd rather not feel I ought to vote for them...
I don't particularly like tennis. But it is definitely a proper sport. Tom Daley be be very talented at making an implausibly tiny splash, but diving is Not A Proper Sport and having a diver winning SPOTY would be a national humiliation on a par with the fall of Singapore. Swimming is a proper sport, but breast stroke is just swimming needlessly slowly, and having Adam Peaty win would be like having a backwards runner winning it. Nothing against Peaty or Daley, who are both talented and hard working individuals, but the events they excel in are ridiculous.
On swimming I don’t understand why it isn’t just A to B fastest and damn the stroke. I mean there isn’t an athletics class for running backwards at the olympics or for 100m by two footed jumps the whole way.
Electoral Calculus gives the Conservatives most seats on those numbers on 297 with Labour on 268 but Starmer could become PM with confidence and supply from the SNP on 55 and the LDs on 7
I don't particularly like tennis. But it is definitely a proper sport. Tom Daley be be very talented at making an implausibly tiny splash, but diving is Not A Proper Sport and having a diver winning SPOTY would be a national humiliation on a par with the fall of Singapore. Swimming is a proper sport, but breast stroke is just swimming needlessly slowly, and having Adam Peaty win would be like having a backwards runner winning it. Nothing against Peaty or Daley, who are both talented and hard working individuals, but the events they excel in are ridiculous.
On swimming I don’t understand why it isn’t just A to B fastest and damn the stroke. I mean there isn’t an athletics class for running backwards at the olympics or for 100m by two footed jumps the whole way.
The swimming bosses have thought of that. It is freestyle. Invariably front crawl but in theory it could be any stroke.
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
I'm not a Lib Dem; heck my political streetfighting years were working against the Yellow Peril. But I can't imagine them offering rejoin in 2024.
The more interesting question is- what if their offer goes something like this;
1 Put a pause on the Pacific stuff. It's unlikely to have come into much force by then, and it doesn't look like a pot of gold, anyway.
2 Move quickly to smooth the flows with the EU- shadow their food standards, allow Euro lorries to do local jobs on the way home. That sort of thing. Hard Brexit without the barbed wire, if you like.
3 Move towards something like EEA by the end of the decade. Largely on their terms (80:20, say) because that's the realpolitilk.
4 (Very Sotto Voce, but there for those with ears to hear) And if in a decade's time, the will of the people is to rejoin, we will facilitate that. Don't worry, we're not talking about doing it now, but we will ensure that our children don't have the option taken away from them.
I half hope they don't say this, because I'd rather not feel I ought to vote for them...
Interesting lack of greenery/environment in that.
What happens if we are in CPTPP by then?
WRT the EEA. Who are "them" in these proposals?
There's no reason why the EEA and the CPTPP are exclusive - the other countries in the EEA have trade agreements beyond the EU.
I don't particularly like tennis. But it is definitely a proper sport. Tom Daley be be very talented at making an implausibly tiny splash, but diving is Not A Proper Sport and having a diver winning SPOTY would be a national humiliation on a par with the fall of Singapore. Swimming is a proper sport, but breast stroke is just swimming needlessly slowly, and having Adam Peaty win would be like having a backwards runner winning it. Nothing against Peaty or Daley, who are both talented and hard working individuals, but the events they excel in are ridiculous.
On swimming I don’t understand why it isn’t just A to B fastest and damn the stroke. I mean there isn’t an athletics class for running backwards at the olympics or for 100m by two footed jumps the whole way.
The swimming bosses have thought of that. It is freestyle. Invariably front crawl but in theory it could be any stroke.
But they need to do away with the other styles. Pointless.
Electoral Calculus gives the Conservatives most seats on those numbers on 297 with Labour on 268 but Starmer could become PM with confidence and supply from the SNP on 55 and the LDs on 7
Labour will have the same problem they've had for the last few elections: during the campaign the Tories will say the only way Labour can form a government is with SNP support, and that will put off English voters.
Good grief, this singer is really awful. Flat and out of time.
Which singer?
The one attempting to sing the US National Anthem at the US Open.
She sounded like Charlotte Church, when drunk, when trying to sing badly.
I was wondering what her name is.
I’m not sure I want to know.
@Pulpstar yes, that is true, and in fact it’s a very very difficult piece of music. It has a wide range and inadequate pauses for breath. I can do it, but I can’t do it without a warm up. And if you don’t get it right, there’s no slack for any error so it sounds horrible.
But for that reason it should be sung only by people who really are very good at music, not those who have been deliberately trained to sing badly.
Wowsers. To think people laughed at people paying more tax.
Boris Johnson's National Insurance increase could result in the breakdown of families and deter companies from hiring new staff and increasing wages, according to the Government's own analysis.
A bombshell impact assessment produced by HM Revenue and Customs for the Treasury warned that one effect of the 1.25 percentage point tax increase "may be an impact on family formation, stability or breakdown as individuals, who are currently just about managing financially, will see their disposable income reduce".
The disclosure comes as several MPs in Red Wall seats said they faced a major backlash from constituents over the move. One MP said they had received angry letters referring to the levy as the "poll tax 2.0" – a phrase that was also used spontaneously by voters in a focus group in a northern city last week.
Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care;
In a speech this week, Liz Truss, the Trade Secretary, who is said to have opposed the rise, is expected to warn that the Conservatives must fight the expansion of the state and embrace free enterprise or risk making Britain poorer;
Senior Tories expressed fury as it emerged that the Government had failed to secure new commitments from NHS England to demand the increased availability of face-to-face GP appointments, in return for a £36 billion funding settlement. A Cabinet minister said: "Every MP is getting complaints from their constituents that they're not getting to see their GPs";
It emerged that at least one Cabinet minister considered resigning over the tax increase;
Mr Johnson faces another rebellion on Wednesday when Labour is expected to force a vote on the Government's plans to end the £20 uplift to the Universal Credit benefit payments introduced during the pandemic;
James Jamieson, the Conservative chairman of the Local Government Association, which represents councils, told The Telegraph that Mr Johnson's plan had "made the situation worse" for social care because private care providers would have to pay increased National Insurance Contributions (NICs);
Electoral Calculus gives the Conservatives most seats on those numbers on 297 with Labour on 268 but Starmer could become PM with confidence and supply from the SNP on 55 and the LDs on 7
It's a remarkably good poll for Labour, combined with the YouGov the other day.
If Labour can reach 38% without actually saying or doing anything much, which is really where we are, imagine the dizzy heights they could reach once they set out some appealing policies.
10% of Tories switching to other parties, Lib Dems have an in here if they wish to take it
Oh, I think so. It is worth being a fairly fiscally dry alternative to both Starmerism and Johnsonian staffing. Between being pro business, pro free trade with Europe and financially sound we should be able to persuade a number of traditional Tories. Steer clear of culture war stuff, and be the party of pragmatic competent government. It works at a local level.
I really would like to see their offer but if it includes rejoining the EU then I would not support them, otherwise I am genuinely interested
I'm not a Lib Dem; heck my political streetfighting years were working against the Yellow Peril. But I can't imagine them offering rejoin in 2024.
The more interesting question is- what if their offer goes something like this;
1 Put a pause on the Pacific stuff. It's unlikely to have come into much force by then, and it doesn't look like a pot of gold, anyway.
2 Move quickly to smooth the flows with the EU- shadow their food standards, allow Euro lorries to do local jobs on the way home. That sort of thing. Hard Brexit without the barbed wire, if you like.
3 Move towards something like EEA by the end of the decade. Largely on their terms (80:20, say) because that's the realpolitilk.
4 (Very Sotto Voce, but there for those with ears to hear) And if in a decade's time, the will of the people is to rejoin, we will facilitate that. Don't worry, we're not talking about doing it now, but we will ensure that our children don't have the option taken away from them.
I half hope they don't say this, because I'd rather not feel I ought to vote for them...
Interesting lack of greenery/environment in that.
What happens if we are in CPTPP by then?
WRT the EEA. Who are "them" in these proposals?
Well, we were talking specifically about the Euro stuff. Other areas of policy are likely to be available.
If were in CPTPP... I suspect it will be pushing it to get that sealed before the next election. It's not just send in an application form, after all.
And the "them" is the existing EEA framework. The existing rules, rather than trying to convince anyone that something similar developed in London is just as good, honest.
Wowsers. To think people laughed at people paying more tax.
Boris Johnson's National Insurance increase could result in the breakdown of families and deter companies from hiring new staff and increasing wages, according to the Government's own analysis.
A bombshell impact assessment produced by HM Revenue and Customs for the Treasury warned that one effect of the 1.25 percentage point tax increase "may be an impact on family formation, stability or breakdown as individuals, who are currently just about managing financially, will see their disposable income reduce".
The disclosure comes as several MPs in Red Wall seats said they faced a major backlash from constituents over the move. One MP said they had received angry letters referring to the levy as the "poll tax 2.0" – a phrase that was also used spontaneously by voters in a focus group in a northern city last week.
Wowsers. To think people laughed at people paying more tax.
Boris Johnson's National Insurance increase could result in the breakdown of families and deter companies from hiring new staff and increasing wages, according to the Government's own analysis.
A bombshell impact assessment produced by HM Revenue and Customs for the Treasury warned that one effect of the 1.25 percentage point tax increase "may be an impact on family formation, stability or breakdown as individuals, who are currently just about managing financially, will see their disposable income reduce".
The disclosure comes as several MPs in Red Wall seats said they faced a major backlash from constituents over the move. One MP said they had received angry letters referring to the levy as the "poll tax 2.0" – a phrase that was also used spontaneously by voters in a focus group in a northern city last week.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
I think you are (a) over reacting to some polls after a bit of Tory self harm and (b) hope casting. Truthfully polls right now don’t matter. I think the changes announced this week will have outraged some, but others will be glad that something is being done. We wait and hope to fully emerge from the scourge of the pandemic, but it probably won’t be until spring 2022 that nhs pressure really eases, if at all. It’s going to be a tough winter and that will hit the government as for most now Covid is not a worry. That’s not saying they are right, just an observation. I have today been at the Frome cheese show (think Country show, but with a lot of cheese too). Thousands of happy people back to normal. And that to some extent makes politics back to normal midterm too.
Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care;
In a speech this week, Liz Truss, the Trade Secretary, who is said to have opposed the rise, is expected to warn that the Conservatives must fight the expansion of the state and embrace free enterprise or risk making Britain poorer;
Senior Tories expressed fury as it emerged that the Government had failed to secure new commitments from NHS England to demand the increased availability of face-to-face GP appointments, in return for a £36 billion funding settlement. A Cabinet minister said: "Every MP is getting complaints from their constituents that they're not getting to see their GPs";
It emerged that at least one Cabinet minister considered resigning over the tax increase;
Mr Johnson faces another rebellion on Wednesday when Labour is expected to force a vote on the Government's plans to end the £20 uplift to the Universal Credit benefit payments introduced during the pandemic;
James Jamieson, the Conservative chairman of the Local Government Association, which represents councils, told The Telegraph that Mr Johnson's plan had "made the situation worse" for social care because private care providers would have to pay increased National Insurance Contributions (NICs);
Didn't I point out earlier this week that Rishi seemed to be keeping his distance from all this week's announcements
Good on Boris TSE @TSEofPB · 1m Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care
Good on Boris TSE @TSEofPB · 1m Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care
Electoral Calculus gives the Conservatives most seats on those numbers on 297 with Labour on 268 but Starmer could become PM with confidence and supply from the SNP on 55 and the LDs on 7
Labour will have the same problem they've had for the last few elections: during the campaign the Tories will say the only way Labour can form a government is with SNP support, and that will put off English voters.
Hmm. Ms Sturgeon is actually very popular South of the border in leadership ratings, more so than North of it sometimes. She just doesn't have the electoral toxicity in England that Salmond did.
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Looks like a voting change based on a Lab VI increasing a bit.
Need more polls though.
I just cannot understand why anyone would want her to lose
However the real intelligent people not only got an A in A Level Maths but an A in Further Maths at A Level.
But my legendary modesty prevents me from naming such a person.
It changed Bonar Law to 'Boner Law'.
It only matters in a minority government though, and wouldn't rub any party other than the Tories the wrong way.
New proposals for a Covid booster programme are also expected to be set out on Tuesday, but it is thought ministers may be backing away from plans for Covid passports in confined settings such as nightclubs amid opposition from some Tory MPs.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/11/covid-jabs-for-12--to-15-year-olds-set-to-start-in-weeks
The more interesting question is- what if their offer goes something like this;
1 Put a pause on the Pacific stuff. It's unlikely to have come into much force by then, and it doesn't look like a pot of gold, anyway.
2 Move quickly to smooth the flows with the EU- shadow their food standards, allow Euro lorries to do local jobs on the way home. That sort of thing. Hard Brexit without the barbed wire, if you like.
3 Move towards something like EEA by the end of the decade. Largely on their terms (80:20, say) because that's the realpolitilk.
4 (Very Sotto Voce, but there for those with ears to hear) And if in a decade's time, the will of the people is to rejoin, we will facilitate that. Don't worry, we're not talking about doing it now, but we will ensure that our children don't have the option taken away from them.
I half hope they don't say this, because I'd rather not feel I ought to vote for them...
Not really defected anywhere yet although if Boris continues with more tax and spend i may well vote for him
I cant see any circumstance i would vote LAB in a GE if led by SKS though
ETA I've saved on Fernandez, having backed Raducanu earlier in the tournament at the same time as doubting on pb that she was a good bet for SPotY because the US Open was not on proper telly. Now it is. (In my defence, I did go on to say things would change if she picked up some adverts on the back of her success.)
https://www.channel4.com/now/C4
Another murder with pretentious of intellect bites the dust....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uivPpzCGo
My plan is to play Civilization VI and watch the tennis simultaneously.
I also want to hear their tax and spend policies as well as building more homes
Nanos has the Liberals 4% ahead and Mainstreet has the Liberals 3.7% ahead.
https://nanos.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/2021-1947-ELXN44-Nightly-Tracking-Report-2021-09-10lR4q8e.pdf
https://archive.md/vITG8
EKOS has the Conservatives still ahead by 0.5% but the Liberals have a 5% lead over the Conservatives in Ontario and the Liberals lead in Quebec by 31% to 21% for the Conservatives with the BQ on 20%
https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2021/09/daily-tracking-september-11-2021/
Is probably a condition of the Amazon deal.
https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-olaf-scholz-pressured-over-money-laundering-probe/a-59147944
What happens if we are in CPTPP by then?
WRT the EEA. Who are "them" in these proposals?
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/usercode.py?scotcontrol=Y&CON=38&LAB=38&LIB=8&Reform=2&Green=6&UKIP=&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVReform=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=23.6&SCOTLAB=19.2&SCOTLIB=6&SCOTReform=0.3&SCOTGreen=1.5&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=47.5&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2019base
Sunak is going down down down
Both players were born after 9/11
So young
She sounded like Charlotte Church, when drunk, when trying to sing badly.
Fsake only in America
You have never - to the best of my knowledge - said anything unsupported by polling evidence against the people of Canada or Romania.
@Pulpstar yes, that is true, and in fact it’s a very very difficult piece of music. It has a wide range and inadequate pauses for breath. I can do it, but I can’t do it without a warm up. And if you don’t get it right, there’s no slack for any error so it sounds horrible.
But for that reason it should be sung only by people who really are very good at music, not those who have been deliberately trained to sing badly.
Boris Johnson's National Insurance increase could result in the breakdown of families and deter companies from hiring new staff and increasing wages, according to the Government's own analysis.
A bombshell impact assessment produced by HM Revenue and Customs for the Treasury warned that one effect of the 1.25 percentage point tax increase "may be an impact on family formation, stability or breakdown as individuals, who are currently just about managing financially, will see their disposable income reduce".
The disclosure comes as several MPs in Red Wall seats said they faced a major backlash from constituents over the move. One MP said they had received angry letters referring to the levy as the "poll tax 2.0" – a phrase that was also used spontaneously by voters in a focus group in a northern city last week.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/09/11/poll-tax-20-will-harm-jobs-families-treasurys-experts-admit/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIzVlFmzojA
Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care;
In a speech this week, Liz Truss, the Trade Secretary, who is said to have opposed the rise, is expected to warn that the Conservatives must fight the expansion of the state and embrace free enterprise or risk making Britain poorer;
Senior Tories expressed fury as it emerged that the Government had failed to secure new commitments from NHS England to demand the increased availability of face-to-face GP appointments, in return for a £36 billion funding settlement. A Cabinet minister said: "Every MP is getting complaints from their constituents that they're not getting to see their GPs";
It emerged that at least one Cabinet minister considered resigning over the tax increase;
Mr Johnson faces another rebellion on Wednesday when Labour is expected to force a vote on the Government's plans to end the £20 uplift to the Universal Credit benefit payments introduced during the pandemic;
James Jamieson, the Conservative chairman of the Local Government Association, which represents councils, told The Telegraph that Mr Johnson's plan had "made the situation worse" for social care because private care providers would have to pay increased National Insurance Contributions (NICs);
If Labour can reach 38% without actually saying or doing anything much, which is really where we are, imagine the dizzy heights they could reach once they set out some appealing policies.
If were in CPTPP... I suspect it will be pushing it to get that sealed before the next election. It's not just send in an application form, after all.
And the "them" is the existing EEA framework. The existing rules, rather than trying to convince anyone that something similar developed in London is just as good, honest.
He might have this right
Truthfully polls right now don’t matter. I think the changes announced this week will have outraged some, but others will be glad that something is being done. We wait and hope to fully emerge from the scourge of the pandemic, but it probably won’t be until spring 2022 that nhs pressure really eases, if at all. It’s going to be a tough winter and that will hit the government as for most now Covid is not a worry. That’s not saying they are right, just an observation. I have today been at the Frome cheese show (think Country show, but with a lot of cheese too). Thousands of happy people back to normal. And that to some extent makes politics back to normal midterm too.
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Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care