Wowsers. To think people laughed at people paying more tax.
Boris Johnson's National Insurance increase could result in the breakdown of families and deter companies from hiring new staff and increasing wages, according to the Government's own analysis.
A bombshell impact assessment produced by HM Revenue and Customs for the Treasury warned that one effect of the 1.25 percentage point tax increase "may be an impact on family formation, stability or breakdown as individuals, who are currently just about managing financially, will see their disposable income reduce".
The disclosure comes as several MPs in Red Wall seats said they faced a major backlash from constituents over the move. One MP said they had received angry letters referring to the levy as the "poll tax 2.0" – a phrase that was also used spontaneously by voters in a focus group in a northern city last week.
Wowsers. To think people laughed at people paying more tax.
Boris Johnson's National Insurance increase could result in the breakdown of families and deter companies from hiring new staff and increasing wages, according to the Government's own analysis.
A bombshell impact assessment produced by HM Revenue and Customs for the Treasury warned that one effect of the 1.25 percentage point tax increase "may be an impact on family formation, stability or breakdown as individuals, who are currently just about managing financially, will see their disposable income reduce".
The disclosure comes as several MPs in Red Wall seats said they faced a major backlash from constituents over the move. One MP said they had received angry letters referring to the levy as the "poll tax 2.0" – a phrase that was also used spontaneously by voters in a focus group in a northern city last week.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
I think you are (a) over reacting to some polls after a bit of Tory self harm and (b) hope casting. Truthfully polls right now don’t matter. I think the changes announced this week will have outraged some, but others will be glad that something is being done. We wait and hope to fully emerge from the scourge of the pandemic, but it probably won’t be until spring 2022 that nhs pressure really eases, if at all. It’s going to be a tough winter and that will hit the government as for most now Covid is not a worry. That’s not saying they are right, just an observation. I have today been at the Frome cheese show (think Country show, but with a lot of cheese too). Thousands of happy people back to normal. And that to some extent makes politics back to normal midterm too.
Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care;
In a speech this week, Liz Truss, the Trade Secretary, who is said to have opposed the rise, is expected to warn that the Conservatives must fight the expansion of the state and embrace free enterprise or risk making Britain poorer;
Senior Tories expressed fury as it emerged that the Government had failed to secure new commitments from NHS England to demand the increased availability of face-to-face GP appointments, in return for a £36 billion funding settlement. A Cabinet minister said: "Every MP is getting complaints from their constituents that they're not getting to see their GPs";
It emerged that at least one Cabinet minister considered resigning over the tax increase;
Mr Johnson faces another rebellion on Wednesday when Labour is expected to force a vote on the Government's plans to end the £20 uplift to the Universal Credit benefit payments introduced during the pandemic;
James Jamieson, the Conservative chairman of the Local Government Association, which represents councils, told The Telegraph that Mr Johnson's plan had "made the situation worse" for social care because private care providers would have to pay increased National Insurance Contributions (NICs);
Didn't I point out earlier this week that Rishi seemed to be keeping his distance from all this week's announcements
Good on Boris TSE @TSEofPB · 1m Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care
Good on Boris TSE @TSEofPB · 1m Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care
Electoral Calculus gives the Conservatives most seats on those numbers on 297 with Labour on 268 but Starmer could become PM with confidence and supply from the SNP on 55 and the LDs on 7
Labour will have the same problem they've had for the last few elections: during the campaign the Tories will say the only way Labour can form a government is with SNP support, and that will put off English voters.
Hmm. Ms Sturgeon is actually very popular South of the border in leadership ratings, more so than North of it sometimes. She just doesn't have the electoral toxicity in England that Salmond did.
Wowsers. To think people laughed at people paying more tax.
Boris Johnson's National Insurance increase could result in the breakdown of families and deter companies from hiring new staff and increasing wages, according to the Government's own analysis.
A bombshell impact assessment produced by HM Revenue and Customs for the Treasury warned that one effect of the 1.25 percentage point tax increase "may be an impact on family formation, stability or breakdown as individuals, who are currently just about managing financially, will see their disposable income reduce".
The disclosure comes as several MPs in Red Wall seats said they faced a major backlash from constituents over the move. One MP said they had received angry letters referring to the levy as the "poll tax 2.0" – a phrase that was also used spontaneously by voters in a focus group in a northern city last week.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Home Secretary Priti Patel was branded a serial offender last night over a secret“lobbying” meeting she brokered between a billionaire Tory donor and British Airways.
In an alleged breach of the ministerial code Ms Patel arranged high level talks at Heathrow Airport’s Hilton Garden Inn without a Home Office official present – as rules dictate.
The hotel is part of a chain owned by Ms Patel’s friend Surinder Arora.
Only weeks earlier he declared he needed “all the help we can get from government” after Covid led to a 90% fall in bookings. And he has ambitions of building and running a third Heathrow runway.
Tonight Labour called for a probe by Cabinet Secretary Simon Case into the Home Secretary’s conduct.
It is almost exactly the same behaviour by Ms Patel which forced her resignation as International Development Secretary in 2017 when she held unauthorised meetings with Israeli officials.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
How do you define Brexit "going"? It's happened and we can't rejoin without a political earthquake.
Home Secretary Priti Patel was branded a serial offender last night over a secret“lobbying” meeting she brokered between a billionaire Tory donor and British Airways.
In an alleged breach of the ministerial code Ms Patel arranged high level talks at Heathrow Airport’s Hilton Garden Inn without a Home Office official present – as rules dictate.
The hotel is part of a chain owned by Ms Patel’s friend Surinder Arora.
Only weeks earlier he declared he needed “all the help we can get from government” after Covid led to a 90% fall in bookings. And he has ambitions of building and running a third Heathrow runway.
Tonight Labour called for a probe by Cabinet Secretary Simon Case into the Home Secretary’s conduct.
It is almost exactly the same behaviour by Ms Patel which forced her resignation as International Development Secretary in 2017 when she held unauthorised meetings with Israeli officials.
It's hard to judge whether politicians really are stupid or not, some who are in fact quite bright do not come across that way in the interactions we see from them.
But if Patel is not dumb, she has a very unconcerned approach to professional and personal standards which may be even worse.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
No, it is never done. We are not implementing import controls nor the Irish protocol for example.
What I mean is that the polling increasingly shows remorse for the decision. I don't expect Rejoin to be on the menu in England in GE 2024, but reasonably likely for the one after.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
No, it is never done. We are not implementing import controls nor the Irish protocol for example.
What I mean is that the polling increasingly shows remorse for the decision. I don't expect Rejoin to be on the menu in England in GE 2024, but reasonably likely for the one after.
I can see a closer trading arrangement but never political union again.
Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care;
In a speech this week, Liz Truss, the Trade Secretary, who is said to have opposed the rise, is expected to warn that the Conservatives must fight the expansion of the state and embrace free enterprise or risk making Britain poorer;
Senior Tories expressed fury as it emerged that the Government had failed to secure new commitments from NHS England to demand the increased availability of face-to-face GP appointments, in return for a £36 billion funding settlement. A Cabinet minister said: "Every MP is getting complaints from their constituents that they're not getting to see their GPs";
It emerged that at least one Cabinet minister considered resigning over the tax increase;
Mr Johnson faces another rebellion on Wednesday when Labour is expected to force a vote on the Government's plans to end the £20 uplift to the Universal Credit benefit payments introduced during the pandemic;
James Jamieson, the Conservative chairman of the Local Government Association, which represents councils, told The Telegraph that Mr Johnson's plan had "made the situation worse" for social care because private care providers would have to pay increased National Insurance Contributions (NICs);
Political tin ears.
First he spent political capital trying to screw down NHS pay, followed by reverse ferret.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
It needs support for the pendulum to not swing back. I think EEA or a similar Swiss style arrangement very possible in the next decade.
Regression poll by Electoral Calculus and FindoutnowUK for Property Chronicle shows where the Nimbys are in Britain. Some areas (green) want more property development locally, and others (red) don't.
How odd! @justin124 was telling us yesterday that Scottish Labour VI will follow English Labour VI as night follows day. Cos the two countries are identical and always mimic each other’s social trends and voting patterns. Or some such guff.
Justin doesn’t get out much.
Scotland, Wales and London good, rest of England bad.
I said no such thing by the way. I suspect Stuart Dixon is deliberately misrepresenting my comments
When the Tories are in the lead, it's evidence of rebalancing according to Matt, realignment etc etc
When they tie or fall behind, Matt has no comment to make, how strange
Except he did comment about it, if sarcastically. Matt Goodwin @GoodwinMJ
9 Sep Ladies & Gentlemen. The series has come to an end. After 149 straight Conservative leads Labour take a lead. No doubt alarm bells are winning in No 10 ...
Labour 35% (+1) Conservative 33% (-5) Lib Dems 10% (+2)
Good on Boris TSE @TSEofPB · 1m Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care
I'm being thick but what point is Sunak making? What alternative account is being ruled out by him?
I don't particularly like tennis. But it is definitely a proper sport. Tom Daley be be very talented at making an implausibly tiny splash, but diving is Not A Proper Sport and having a diver winning SPOTY would be a national humiliation on a par with the fall of Singapore. Swimming is a proper sport, but breast stroke is just swimming needlessly slowly, and having Adam Peaty win would be like having a backwards runner winning it. Nothing against Peaty or Daley, who are both talented and hard working individuals, but the events they excel in are ridiculous.
On swimming I don’t understand why it isn’t just A to B fastest and damn the stroke. I mean there isn’t an athletics class for running backwards at the olympics or for 100m by two footed jumps the whole way.
I was aware that there was no freestyle when competitive swimming began. So I researched it. In a checking Wikipedia stylee.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
It needs support for the pendulum to not swing back. I think EEA or a similar Swiss style arrangement very possible in the next decade.
And I’d be happy with that, even as a remain voter. No question the polarisation of the debate post 2016 did not produce the best outcome.
No lead for Labour in the crucial Oponiumyum. AND ONLY A TEENY DROP FOR THE CONSERVATIVES after the week they have had. LAB: 38% CON: 38% (-2) LDM: 8% (+1) GRN: 6% (=) SNP: 5% (-1)
Arch Remainer Starmer can’t win back Red Brex. Labour in trouble at next election. They just weren’t ready for what the Tories were going to do this week to take the chance, Red Brex are back on the Tory Train now.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
It needs support for the pendulum to not swing back. I think EEA or a similar Swiss style arrangement very possible in the next decade.
It's not a pendulum issue though. An EEA-style arrangement just doesn't make sense for a country of our size and no amount of remorse about Brexit would change the fundamentals.
Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care;
In a speech this week, Liz Truss, the Trade Secretary, who is said to have opposed the rise, is expected to warn that the Conservatives must fight the expansion of the state and embrace free enterprise or risk making Britain poorer;
Senior Tories expressed fury as it emerged that the Government had failed to secure new commitments from NHS England to demand the increased availability of face-to-face GP appointments, in return for a £36 billion funding settlement. A Cabinet minister said: "Every MP is getting complaints from their constituents that they're not getting to see their GPs";
It emerged that at least one Cabinet minister considered resigning over the tax increase;
Mr Johnson faces another rebellion on Wednesday when Labour is expected to force a vote on the Government's plans to end the £20 uplift to the Universal Credit benefit payments introduced during the pandemic;
James Jamieson, the Conservative chairman of the Local Government Association, which represents councils, told The Telegraph that Mr Johnson's plan had "made the situation worse" for social care because private care providers would have to pay increased National Insurance Contributions (NICs);
Political tin ears.
First he spent political capital trying to screw down NHS pay, followed by reverse ferret.
Episode 2 perhaps coming with Universal Credit?
iirc Dominic Cummings wrote about his frustration at having to persuade Boris to stop opposing Marcus Rashford over starving kids.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
It needs support for the pendulum to not swing back. I think EEA or a similar Swiss style arrangement very possible in the next decade.
It's not a pendulum issue though. An EEA-style arrangement just doesn't make sense for a country of our size and no amount of remorse about Brexit would change the fundamentals.
On the other hand, I can see a situation where there are piecemeal initiatives that bring the EU and the UK ever closer together.
And before you know it, the relationship looks very similar to the Swiss-EU one.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
It needs support for the pendulum to not swing back. I think EEA or a similar Swiss style arrangement very possible in the next decade.
It's not a pendulum issue though. An EEA-style arrangement just doesn't make sense for a country of our size and no amount of remorse about Brexit would change the fundamentals.
Well said. There's no way the UK/England can be rule takers like that, it just doesn't make sense. Same reason why the Backstop was a complete non-starter (though that was even worse).
If you want us to be in the Single Market, rejoining the EU and having a say in its rules is the way to go.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
It needs support for the pendulum to not swing back. I think EEA or a similar Swiss style arrangement very possible in the next decade.
It's not a pendulum issue though. An EEA-style arrangement just doesn't make sense for a country of our size and no amount of remorse about Brexit would change the fundamentals.
Of course. When in the EEA, there will be a desire to have a say in the decision making rather than being a satellite.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
The Brexit we have is unsustainable in the mid/long term. Trade-wise we've crippled ourselves in relation to our nearest and biggest partner. That's not something the dynamics of the free market will ultimately allow. A huge reassessment will need to be made at some point, though I doubt that will happen politically until the likes of Boris and Farage are long gone.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
It needs support for the pendulum to not swing back. I think EEA or a similar Swiss style arrangement very possible in the next decade.
It's not a pendulum issue though. An EEA-style arrangement just doesn't make sense for a country of our size and no amount of remorse about Brexit would change the fundamentals.
Of course. When in the EEA, there will be a desire to have a say in the decision making rather than being a satellite.
I think you have the cart before the horse. There would be no impetus to join the EEA unless there had already been a decision to rejoin the EU.
I wonder if there is a possibility of seeing the Tories in the 20s by the end of the year
The thing that could be very dangerous for the Tories is if the voters start questioning Brexit - either was there any point to it or was it bungled? With tax hikes, empty shelves, labour shortages, triple-lock cancellations etc. both are now quite capable of taking hold. If Boris loses his Brexit-gratitude support then there's not much else left.
Well, certainly there is no sign of Brexit gathering support. I have always said that Brexit will go with a whimper rather than a bang.
I’m puzzled as to what support it needs? It’s done.
The Brexit we have is unsustainable in the mid/long term. Trade-wise we've crippled ourselves in relation to our nearest and biggest partner. That's not something the dynamics of the free market will ultimately allow. A huge reassessment will need to be made at some point, though I doubt that will happen politically until the likes of Boris and Farage are long gone.
Yes, a new political generation is needed for the Conservative Party to revert to its pre 2016 decades of support for being in the Single Market that we created.
INSA/BamS: SPD 26 % | CDU/CSU 20 % | GRÜNE 15 % | FDP 13 % | AfD 11 % | DIE LINKE 6 % | Sonstige 9 %
SPD appears to have plateaued at 26% but things are still dire for the CDU/CSU.
I pay the most interest to INSA polling because it was the most accurate German polling institute in 2017 and got the SPD and AfD shares in particular spot on.
I think we need to seriously consider the possibility that Herr Niemand's Sonstige gets into the Bundestag this time around.
How would you describe their platform, what makes it different to other options ?
INSA/BamS: SPD 26 % | CDU/CSU 20 % | GRÜNE 15 % | FDP 13 % | AfD 11 % | DIE LINKE 6 % | Sonstige 9 %
SPD appears to have plateaued at 26% but things are still dire for the CDU/CSU.
I pay the most interest to INSA polling because it was the most accurate German polling institute in 2017 and got the SPD and AfD shares in particular spot on.
Prosecutors have raided Scholz's Finance Ministry however over allegations into how it investigated money laundering, although he should be safe it is not what he wanted in the last weeks of the campaign
Yes, I'm not even saying Scholz is scandal free although this one isn't linked to him personally as such.
There is also the wirecard stuff but doesn't seem to have made much impact.
We will see what happens in tomorrow night's debate although the Scholz-Laschet-Baerbock setup seems to benefit Scholz as Baerbock has less incentive to attack Scholz.
Just placed £20 with Ladbrokes on Fernandez at 7/5. Says it returns £48 which I suppose is £20 + £28 (I am a non-bettor). Seems rather generous at this stage, no?
Electoral Calculus gives the Conservatives most seats on those numbers on 297 with Labour on 268 but Starmer could become PM with confidence and supply from the SNP on 55 and the LDs on 7
Labour will have the same problem they've had for the last few elections: during the campaign the Tories will say the only way Labour can form a government is with SNP support, and that will put off English voters.
Polls like this for GB are likely to bring about some Labour recovery in Scotland in a Westminster election - and reduce any dependency on other parties.
You want to be careful, you might find yourself sharing a flight with him and he’s known for his alcohol intake…
Leon should be very, very scared. Eadric was being stalked by Knox on his daily walks around Cosmeston Lakes during lockdown 1. Where is he now? One of the disappeared!
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
They are as predictable as Daily Mail photos of hot teen girls jumping up and down, celebrating their A Level results
And both are as British as, well, the Last Night of the Proms
The thing I never understand about the Last Night angst, the Boat Race etc etc is that it is such a small part of national life - you can ignore it trivially.
Mind you, there is nothing quite like watching idiots marooning their cars in the Thames, by parking on boat ramps without permission, while seated in a good pub. There is something very calming about sipping a pint and watching the water crawling towards the morons Chelsea tractor......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. It’s no better or worse than another express article about sizzling weather or princess diana
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
But its okay to have pomp and circumstance without the singing. Absolutely no one with a brain could object to that. The words make it into something opposite to what Elgar intended, so refreshing to go back to the original the pomp versus reality of actual battle.
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
But we are not allowed to because the swastika wearing brigade like Leon won’t allow that, without giving any rational reason why not.
Word salad. Blest Pair of Sirens is not a hymn either, nor is it prose. Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Pomp and Circumstance without singing is just another American high school graduation ceremony. Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
So who will be watching Last Night of the Proms tonight? Someone's got to make sure all the old songs are still there while the rest of us watch the tennis. You'd think Channel 4 would have splashed it on their website but no.
Let’s hope somebody is, choleric EU flag count by the Gammons has become a fine tradition.
As is, equally, a hand wringing series of articles in the guardian saying ‘how can we let this jingoistic Rule Britannia nonsense go on’
They are as predictable as Daily Mail photos of hot teen girls jumping up and down, celebrating their A Level results
And both are as British as, well, the Last Night of the Proms
The thing I never understand about the Last Night angst, the Boat Race etc etc is that it is such a small part of national life - you can ignore it trivially.
Mind you, there is nothing quite like watching idiots marooning their cars in the Thames, by parking on boat ramps without permission, while seated in a good pub. There is something very calming about sipping a pint and watching the water crawling towards the morons Chelsea tractor......
The guardian publishes this wank because their idiot readers lap it up. Every year. Without fail. It’s no better or worse than another express article about sizzling weather or princess diana
I haven't seen anything on it in the Guardian today. Could you direct me to it?
It worries me that you’re a doctor. You’re not the brightest
But its okay to have pomp and circumstance without the singing. Absolutely no one with a brain could object to that. The words make it into something opposite to what Elgar intended, so refreshing to go back to the original the pomp versus reality of actual battle.
Jersulem also stolen from the intention of the original prose, nor is it remotely as good or as patriotic as Parry’s blessed pair, thanks to fact Jerusalem not a real hymn, so we can swap that out for a change and have a far better prom.
But we are not allowed to because the swastika wearing brigade like Leon won’t allow that, without giving any rational reason why not.
Word salad. Blest Pair of Sirens is not a hymn either, nor is it prose. Jerusalem is an exceptionally great poem.
Pomp and Circumstance without singing is just another American high school graduation ceremony. Jerusalem is remarkable for being claimed by both right and left -- as a paean to England and to socialism.
“ paean … and to socialism. “
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Dark satanic mills ... building the new Jerusalem.
Just placed £20 with Ladbrokes on Fernandez at 7/5. Says it returns £48 which I suppose is £20 + £28 (I am a non-bettor). Seems rather generous at this stage, no?
You want to be careful, you might find yourself sharing a flight with him and he’s known for his alcohol intake…
Leon should be very, very scared. Eadric was being stalked by Knox on his daily walks around Cosmeston Lakes during lockdown 1. Where is he now? One of the disappeared!
Perhaps he has vanished so far in a hole only his feet are showing...
Just placed £20 with Ladbrokes on Fernandez at 7/5. Says it returns £48 which I suppose is £20 + £28 (I am a non-bettor). Seems rather generous at this stage, no?
Hard to say as prices fluctuate with each point. It might have been good value when you placed the bet, or not. On Betfair, Fernandez has moved between Evens and 3/1 so 7/5 could have been good or bad.
Also says "Cash out £12.91". Do I get the stake back too with that?
I'd guess that includes the stake.
Thanks. It is now at £20.12. So I suppose I will cash out if it reaches, say, £30. Thanks PB for the education.
The general advice, from a pure value perspective, is to never cash out.
Each time you bet, you pay the bookie overround. Cashing out, rather than waiting for it to settle, means you pay it twice.
Only cash out if you think the opposite outcome is more likely than the stated odds indicate. Basically, treat each bet as an individual proposition. The +-figure should be meaningless in your calculation.
Also says "Cash out £12.91". Do I get the stake back too with that?
I'd guess that includes the stake.
Thanks. It is now at £20.12. So I suppose I will cash out if it reaches, say, £30. Thanks PB for the education.
Good luck. It is never too soon to take a profit (or something). Note that if you try to cash out in the middle of a game, the odds might move against you or in your favour.
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He might have this right
Truthfully polls right now don’t matter. I think the changes announced this week will have outraged some, but others will be glad that something is being done. We wait and hope to fully emerge from the scourge of the pandemic, but it probably won’t be until spring 2022 that nhs pressure really eases, if at all. It’s going to be a tough winter and that will hit the government as for most now Covid is not a worry. That’s not saying they are right, just an observation. I have today been at the Frome cheese show (think Country show, but with a lot of cheese too). Thousands of happy people back to normal. And that to some extent makes politics back to normal midterm too.
This is the Stage of Yoof.
TSE
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Rishi Sunak was said to have privately stated that the tax rise was ultimately born out of a choice made by Mr Johnson, who insisted on delivering a generous state-run system to fund social care
Has c4 shown any adverts in the past hour?
In an alleged breach of the ministerial code Ms Patel arranged high level talks at Heathrow Airport’s Hilton Garden Inn without a Home Office official present – as rules dictate.
The hotel is part of a chain owned by Ms Patel’s friend Surinder Arora.
Only weeks earlier he declared he needed “all the help we can get from government” after Covid led to a 90% fall in bookings. And he has ambitions of building and running a third Heathrow runway.
Tonight Labour called for a probe by Cabinet Secretary Simon Case into the Home Secretary’s conduct.
It is almost exactly the same behaviour by Ms Patel which forced her resignation as International Development Secretary in 2017 when she held unauthorised meetings with Israeli officials.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/priti-patel-breaks-rules-again-24963905
Looking bad now though, three break points held off.
But if Patel is not dumb, she has a very unconcerned approach to professional and personal standards which may be even worse.
What I mean is that the polling increasingly shows remorse for the decision. I don't expect Rejoin to be on the menu in England in GE 2024, but reasonably likely for the one after.
Now Adv Raducanu because of a double fault.
When the Tories are in the lead, it's evidence of rebalancing according to Matt, realignment etc etc
When they tie or fall behind, Matt has no comment to make, how strange
Whoever wins this will have quite a psychological boost.
First he spent political capital trying to screw down NHS pay, followed by reverse ferret.
Episode 2 perhaps coming with Universal Credit?
Matt Goodwin
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9 Sep
Ladies & Gentlemen. The series has come to an end. After 149 straight Conservative leads Labour take a lead. No doubt alarm bells are winning in No 10 ...
Labour 35% (+1)
Conservative 33% (-5)
Lib Dems 10% (+2)
YouGov/The Times
Ht @iainmartin1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_crawl
Fernandez doing a lot of faults. Must have been about 8 or 9 faults in that game.
LAB: 38%
CON: 38% (-2)
LDM: 8% (+1)
GRN: 6% (=)
SNP: 5% (-1)
Arch Remainer Starmer can’t win back Red Brex. Labour in trouble at next election. They just weren’t ready for what the Tories were going to do this week to take the chance, Red Brex are back on the Tory Train now.
Starmer’s blown it!
And before you know it, the relationship looks very similar to the Swiss-EU one.
If you want us to be in the Single Market, rejoining the EU and having a say in its rules is the way to go.
That was a bit of overexuberance from Fernandez. It was more out than Philip Schofield and she still returned it.
At lest she got the next one right.
There is also the wirecard stuff but doesn't seem to have made much impact.
We will see what happens in tomorrow night's debate although the Scholz-Laschet-Baerbock setup seems to benefit Scholz as Baerbock has less incentive to attack Scholz.
https://twitter.com/KenPaxtonTX/status/1436647462710792194?s=20
I would like to thank Boris Johnson at this difficult time, for re-igniting the red wall hatred for the Tories
Absolutely none of it is paean to Socialism. Which bit were you thinking of?
Fernandez 2.58
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/tennis/us-open-2021/raducanu-v-le-fernandez-betting-30888720
Edit - and so does Raducanu!
Blake News:
One of my odder memories from 9/11: CNN interviewing Tom Clancy (!?) to help interpret what just happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSjrLYT1hr8
Each time you bet, you pay the bookie overround. Cashing out, rather than waiting for it to settle, means you pay it twice.
Only cash out if you think the opposite outcome is more likely than the stated odds indicate. Basically, treat each bet as an individual proposition. The +-figure should be meaningless in your calculation.