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  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654
    dr_spyn said:

    Why is the Hancock story suddenly breaking today? Seems as if some people were gunning for him over the last month vie leaks to the press.

    Just as well 24 rolling news wan't around during the First World War, when Ministers and Admirals were known to be spending time with other men's wives.

    And as for that David and Bathsheba. Poor Uriah.

    What would the Daily Mail have made of that?
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,666
    moonshine said:

    NEW: @marcorubio statement on UAP REPORT:

    Calls the report "an important first step."

    Adds "the Defense Department and Intelligence Community have a lot of work to do before we can actually understand whether these aerial threats present a serious national security concern.”

    Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Vice Chairman Marco Rubio (R-FL) released a statement on the unclassified report on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) issued by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).

    “For years, the men and women we trust to defend our country reported encounters with unidentified aircraft that had superior capabilities, and for years their concerns were often ignored and ridiculed,” Rubio said. “This report is an important first step in cataloging these incidents, but it is just a first step. The Defense Department and Intelligence Community have a lot of work to do before we can actually understand whether these aerial threats present a serious national security concern.”
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    Nunu3 said:

    Hancock has to go. He broke his own rules.


    Simple as that.

    This is serious, I dont think the politically obsessed get how serious it is, because normal peoples lives were badly disrupted by the rules Hancock himself ignored.

    He will be gone before Batley and Spen.

    Yes. My family, which is marginally pro-Brexit, pro-Boris - with lots of exceptions, from Remoaners to Corbynism - is universal in its condemnation of Hancock. All angry. He has to go. That's it.

    Boris has made an error even trying to defend him
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,188
    edited June 2021
    Matt Hancock photo prevented from trending on Twitter by anti-porn filters

    Matt Hancock has been prevented from trending on Twitter due to anti-porn filters applied to suspected pornographic terms

    https://inews.co.uk/news/matt-hancock-photo-prevented-from-trending-on-twitter-by-anti-porn-filters-1071913
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654
    eek said:

    DavidL said:

    Well now.

    Two brothers who launched a bitcoin trading business from their bedroom and amassed $3.6 billion in investments have vanished, increasing their clients’ fears about their money.

    Raees and Ameer Cajee, 21 and 17 respectively, have not been heard from since April when their platform shut down and they told clients it had been hacked and funds stolen. The brothers are alleged to have urged Africrypt’s investors not to contact the authorities as that “would only delay” efforts to recover the money.

    According to reports, police are investigating what could be one of the biggest crypto thefts in history.

    In the weeks before the disappearance, the brothers sold assets including a Lamborghini Huracan, and gave up their permanent suite at one of South Africa’s most expensive hotels and their rented beachside apartment near Durban, lawyers for the investors say.

    The company’s tech staff were allegedly unable to access back-end systems a week before the claimed security breach, Darren Hanekom, a lawyer in Cape Town acting for some investors, told Bloomberg.

    Africrypt’s pooled funds were transferred from its bank accounts and client wallets and put through bitcoin “tumblers and mixers” in an effort to make them untraceable, he claimed. “We were immediately suspicious as the announcement implored investors not to take legal action,” he said. In a letter to their clients dated April 13, Ameer Cajees is claimed to have written that it was “unknown to us the extent of personal client information breached during the attack”.

    According to lawyers, he added that the brothers were attempting to retrieve “stolen funds and compromised information”. The apparent disappearance of the Cajees coincided with a record high in bitcoin’s value, following an announcement by Elon Musk that Tesla, his electric car maker, would start accepting the currency. Since then, its value has been hit by China’s crackdown on digital currencies and Musk reversing his decision.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cajee-brothers-who-ran-3-6bn-bitcoin-fund-vanish-lbfhbc0sh

    I am going to have a wild stab at this and speculate that your client base when you operate what seems to be a money laundering scheme for a money laundering currency probably don’t use the likes of me to recover money that they believe that they are owed.

    I suspect that their methods may not even be fully ECHR compliant.
    I suspect they now have new identities and are sat in somewhere like Dubai....
    And Bahrain. And Qatar. Possibly at the same time.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169
    edited June 2021

    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Quite well by the looks of the photo....
    Great comment but time for him to go
    Its like Cummings, the longer he stays around the more damage it does.
    It would be interesting to hear Kay Burley and him arguing about their behaviour live on Sky

    At least she went away for 6 months
    Every minister interviewed by Burley, needs to bring up her own little problem with following the rules.

    Why are you calling for Mr Hancock to resign, when you didn’t resign yourself?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Quite well by the looks of the photo....
    Great comment but time for him to go
    Its like Cummings, the longer he stays around the more damage it does.
    It would be interesting to hear Kay Burley and him arguing about their behaviour live on Sky

    At least she went away for 6 months
    Every minister interviewed by Burley, needs to bring up her own little problem with following the rules.

    Why are you calling for Mr Hancock to resign, when you didn’t resign yourself?
    I agree. But he still needs to go.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    eek said:

    DavidL said:

    Well now.

    Two brothers who launched a bitcoin trading business from their bedroom and amassed $3.6 billion in investments have vanished, increasing their clients’ fears about their money.

    Raees and Ameer Cajee, 21 and 17 respectively, have not been heard from since April when their platform shut down and they told clients it had been hacked and funds stolen. The brothers are alleged to have urged Africrypt’s investors not to contact the authorities as that “would only delay” efforts to recover the money.

    According to reports, police are investigating what could be one of the biggest crypto thefts in history.

    In the weeks before the disappearance, the brothers sold assets including a Lamborghini Huracan, and gave up their permanent suite at one of South Africa’s most expensive hotels and their rented beachside apartment near Durban, lawyers for the investors say.

    The company’s tech staff were allegedly unable to access back-end systems a week before the claimed security breach, Darren Hanekom, a lawyer in Cape Town acting for some investors, told Bloomberg.

    Africrypt’s pooled funds were transferred from its bank accounts and client wallets and put through bitcoin “tumblers and mixers” in an effort to make them untraceable, he claimed. “We were immediately suspicious as the announcement implored investors not to take legal action,” he said. In a letter to their clients dated April 13, Ameer Cajees is claimed to have written that it was “unknown to us the extent of personal client information breached during the attack”.

    According to lawyers, he added that the brothers were attempting to retrieve “stolen funds and compromised information”. The apparent disappearance of the Cajees coincided with a record high in bitcoin’s value, following an announcement by Elon Musk that Tesla, his electric car maker, would start accepting the currency. Since then, its value has been hit by China’s crackdown on digital currencies and Musk reversing his decision.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cajee-brothers-who-ran-3-6bn-bitcoin-fund-vanish-lbfhbc0sh

    I am going to have a wild stab at this and speculate that your client base when you operate what seems to be a money laundering scheme for a money laundering currency probably don’t use the likes of me to recover money that they believe that they are owed.

    I suspect that their methods may not even be fully ECHR compliant.
    I suspect they now have new identities and are sat in somewhere like Dubai....
    There was a really good article in the Guardian the other week, originally from El Pais about how Dubai is where all the captains of Europe criminal networks now live, while still having their henchmen in Marbella.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    The moral of the story: Don't ask Leon to be your Best Man.
    lol, but no

    I have fucked a couple of bridesmaids on the wedding day, but as an usher. Isn't that what ushers and bridesmaids are meant to do? It's like an open goal

    Memorably, I once sniffed coke off the bonnet of the Wedding Bentley, with a bridesmaid, that I then merrily tupped

    Sigh. Now I mainly think about UFOs
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,939
    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,666
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    The moral of the story: Don't ask Leon to be your Best Man.
    lol, but no

    I have fucked a couple of bridesmaids on the wedding day, but as an usher. Isn't that what ushers and bridesmaids are meant to do? It's like an open goal

    Memorably, I once sniffed coke off the bonnet of the Wedding Bentley, with a bridesmaid, that I then merrily tupped

    Sigh. Now I mainly think about UFOs
    Sorry to be a bad influence
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    The moral of the story: Don't ask Leon to be your Best Man.
    lol, but no

    I have fucked a couple of bridesmaids on the wedding day, but as an usher. Isn't that what ushers and bridesmaids are meant to do? It's like an open goal

    Memorably, I once sniffed coke off the bonnet of the Wedding Bentley, with a bridesmaid, that I then merrily tupped

    Sigh. Now I mainly think about UFOs
    Its a job good you aren't an writer or anything, you can get cancelled these days for descriptions of real life events like that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Some good drugs?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654
    moonshine said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    The moral of the story: Don't ask Leon to be your Best Man.
    lol, but no

    I have fucked a couple of bridesmaids on the wedding day, but as an usher. Isn't that what ushers and bridesmaids are meant to do? It's like an open goal

    Memorably, I once sniffed coke off the bonnet of the Wedding Bentley, with a bridesmaid, that I then merrily tupped

    Sigh. Now I mainly think about UFOs
    Sorry to be a bad influence
    Now that’s what I call boasting. A bad influence on Leon. Ha.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.

    When you said "blood clot" what did they mean?! Where?

    Sorry to pry, just asking for a male friend in later middle age who drinks too much. He'll be very grateful for any info

    Glad you are still here, old PB pal
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,939
    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    An injection in the stomach doesn't sound like fun.

    Have your family been able to visit?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    edited June 2021
    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    The moral indignation of the media is ridiculous. We know they are as bad as politicians when it comes to drugs, shagging around and not following rules....

    Stick to the story.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    DavidL said:

    moonshine said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    The moral of the story: Don't ask Leon to be your Best Man.
    lol, but no

    I have fucked a couple of bridesmaids on the wedding day, but as an usher. Isn't that what ushers and bridesmaids are meant to do? It's like an open goal

    Memorably, I once sniffed coke off the bonnet of the Wedding Bentley, with a bridesmaid, that I then merrily tupped

    Sigh. Now I mainly think about UFOs
    Sorry to be a bad influence
    Now that’s what I call boasting. A bad influence on Leon. Ha.
    Yes, I can safely say there has been no Bad Influence, apart from one guy I had a bromance with in the late 1980s, when we just egged each other on, in a folie a deux. We were Bonnie and Clyde but actually two guys who should've known better

    I am cordially loathed by lots of wives and mothers, as the guy who might lead their sons and husbands to an alt.life, and, frankly, fair enough
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Clexane? That’s a fun one.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169
    edited June 2021
    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,576
    dr_spyn said:

    Why is the Hancock story suddenly breaking today? Seems as if some people were gunning for him over the last month vie leaks to the press.

    Just as well 24 rolling news wan't around during the First World War, when Ministers and Admirals were known to be spending time with other men's wives.

    Well there are other aspects that make his dalliances more relevant, but it is worth remembering that when people hark back to a greater age of politicians it may or may not be true, but it certainly wasn't whiter than white (execpt demographically I guess - bar a few outliers), and nor were they.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,544

    eek said:

    DavidL said:

    Well now.

    Two brothers who launched a bitcoin trading business from their bedroom and amassed $3.6 billion in investments have vanished, increasing their clients’ fears about their money.

    Raees and Ameer Cajee, 21 and 17 respectively, have not been heard from since April when their platform shut down and they told clients it had been hacked and funds stolen. The brothers are alleged to have urged Africrypt’s investors not to contact the authorities as that “would only delay” efforts to recover the money.

    According to reports, police are investigating what could be one of the biggest crypto thefts in history.

    In the weeks before the disappearance, the brothers sold assets including a Lamborghini Huracan, and gave up their permanent suite at one of South Africa’s most expensive hotels and their rented beachside apartment near Durban, lawyers for the investors say.

    The company’s tech staff were allegedly unable to access back-end systems a week before the claimed security breach, Darren Hanekom, a lawyer in Cape Town acting for some investors, told Bloomberg.

    Africrypt’s pooled funds were transferred from its bank accounts and client wallets and put through bitcoin “tumblers and mixers” in an effort to make them untraceable, he claimed. “We were immediately suspicious as the announcement implored investors not to take legal action,” he said. In a letter to their clients dated April 13, Ameer Cajees is claimed to have written that it was “unknown to us the extent of personal client information breached during the attack”.

    According to lawyers, he added that the brothers were attempting to retrieve “stolen funds and compromised information”. The apparent disappearance of the Cajees coincided with a record high in bitcoin’s value, following an announcement by Elon Musk that Tesla, his electric car maker, would start accepting the currency. Since then, its value has been hit by China’s crackdown on digital currencies and Musk reversing his decision.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cajee-brothers-who-ran-3-6bn-bitcoin-fund-vanish-lbfhbc0sh

    I am going to have a wild stab at this and speculate that your client base when you operate what seems to be a money laundering scheme for a money laundering currency probably don’t use the likes of me to recover money that they believe that they are owed.

    I suspect that their methods may not even be fully ECHR compliant.
    I suspect they now have new identities and are sat in somewhere like Dubai....
    There was a really good article in the Guardian the other week, originally from El Pais about how Dubai is where all the captains of Europe criminal networks now live, while still having their henchmen in Marbella.
    Sounds like the Cajees would be well advised to locate somewhere else in that case... somewhere where they're less likely to bump into their former clients.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,160
    do we know who is funding galloway?

    novara media says he has ten full time organizers in batley.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    The moral indignation of the media is ridiculous. We know they are as bad as politicians when it comes to drugs, shagging around and not following rules....

    Stick to the story.
    I know. But I think Niall Paterson is either lying or is a bad son. But I’m wondering if someone can come up with a scenario?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    Me!

    Tho it depends what you mean by "seen". I have sat on a long outdoor bench a 3m distance from my dear old Pa. I haven't hugged him or interacted normally since Xmas 2019

    Does that count?

    He is very old and his younger wife is recovering from cancer so they are hyper-paranoid about normal socialising
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    The moral of the story: Don't ask Leon to be your Best Man.
    lol, but no

    I have fucked a couple of bridesmaids on the wedding day, but as an usher. Isn't that what ushers and bridesmaids are meant to do? It's like an open goal

    Memorably, I once sniffed coke off the bonnet of the Wedding Bentley, with a bridesmaid, that I then merrily tupped

    Sigh. Now I mainly think about UFOs
    Leon, as I think you are the resident expert on the China Lab Leak theory, (some would say conspiracist theorist But I'm open minded for now)

    Have you seen this, an allegation that the charitable arm of Google was also funding an organisation called Eco Health Alliance that was also doing 'gain of function' resuch in animal to human viruses?

    State at 6.30 in to vidio:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIP-GxOLDsQ

  • eekeek Posts: 27,939
    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
    Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,652
    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    Anyone offer the bridegroom with the best man.. or the bride with her matron of honour?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347

    eek said:

    DavidL said:

    Well now.

    Two brothers who launched a bitcoin trading business from their bedroom and amassed $3.6 billion in investments have vanished, increasing their clients’ fears about their money.

    Raees and Ameer Cajee, 21 and 17 respectively, have not been heard from since April when their platform shut down and they told clients it had been hacked and funds stolen. The brothers are alleged to have urged Africrypt’s investors not to contact the authorities as that “would only delay” efforts to recover the money.

    According to reports, police are investigating what could be one of the biggest crypto thefts in history.

    In the weeks before the disappearance, the brothers sold assets including a Lamborghini Huracan, and gave up their permanent suite at one of South Africa’s most expensive hotels and their rented beachside apartment near Durban, lawyers for the investors say.

    The company’s tech staff were allegedly unable to access back-end systems a week before the claimed security breach, Darren Hanekom, a lawyer in Cape Town acting for some investors, told Bloomberg.

    Africrypt’s pooled funds were transferred from its bank accounts and client wallets and put through bitcoin “tumblers and mixers” in an effort to make them untraceable, he claimed. “We were immediately suspicious as the announcement implored investors not to take legal action,” he said. In a letter to their clients dated April 13, Ameer Cajees is claimed to have written that it was “unknown to us the extent of personal client information breached during the attack”.

    According to lawyers, he added that the brothers were attempting to retrieve “stolen funds and compromised information”. The apparent disappearance of the Cajees coincided with a record high in bitcoin’s value, following an announcement by Elon Musk that Tesla, his electric car maker, would start accepting the currency. Since then, its value has been hit by China’s crackdown on digital currencies and Musk reversing his decision.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cajee-brothers-who-ran-3-6bn-bitcoin-fund-vanish-lbfhbc0sh

    I am going to have a wild stab at this and speculate that your client base when you operate what seems to be a money laundering scheme for a money laundering currency probably don’t use the likes of me to recover money that they believe that they are owed.

    I suspect that their methods may not even be fully ECHR compliant.
    I suspect they now have new identities and are sat in somewhere like Dubai....
    There was a really good article in the Guardian the other week, originally from El Pais about how Dubai is where all the captains of Europe criminal networks now live, while still having their henchmen in Marbella.
    Sounds like the Cajees would be well advised to locate somewhere else in that case... somewhere where they're less likely to bump into their former clients.
    Its a good read....

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/may/20/a-united-nations-of-how-marbella-became-a-magnet-for-gangsters
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,028

    Matt Hancock photo prevented from trending on Twitter by anti-porn filters

    Matt Hancock has been prevented from trending on Twitter due to anti-porn filters applied to suspected pornographic terms

    https://inews.co.uk/news/matt-hancock-photo-prevented-from-trending-on-twitter-by-anti-porn-filters-1071913

    Well, there is an enormous arse very prominent in the images.

    It’s groping a woman.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,028

    do we know who is funding galloway?

    novara media says he has ten full time organizers in batley.

    Don’t even go there...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    Charles said:

    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    The moral indignation of the media is ridiculous. We know they are as bad as politicians when it comes to drugs, shagging around and not following rules....

    Stick to the story.
    I know. But I think Niall Paterson is either lying or is a bad son. But I’m wondering if someone can come up with a scenario?
    We know the media have spent way too long during covid concocting extreme scenarios or going out of their way to find edge cases.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Leon said:

    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    Me!

    Tho it depends what you mean by "seen". I have sat on a long outdoor bench a 3m distance from my dear old Pa. I haven't hugged him or interacted normally since Xmas 2019

    Does that count?

    He is very old and his younger wife is recovering from cancer so they are hyper-paranoid about normal socialising
    But you didn’t get to hug & kiss him last week? When there have been no meaningful change in the rules for a significant period of time
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    BigRich said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    The moral of the story: Don't ask Leon to be your Best Man.
    lol, but no

    I have fucked a couple of bridesmaids on the wedding day, but as an usher. Isn't that what ushers and bridesmaids are meant to do? It's like an open goal

    Memorably, I once sniffed coke off the bonnet of the Wedding Bentley, with a bridesmaid, that I then merrily tupped

    Sigh. Now I mainly think about UFOs
    Leon, as I think you are the resident expert on the China Lab Leak theory, (some would say conspiracist theorist But I'm open minded for now)

    Have you seen this, an allegation that the charitable arm of Google was also funding an organisation called Eco Health Alliance that was also doing 'gain of function' resuch in animal to human viruses?

    State at 6.30 in to vidio:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIP-GxOLDsQ

    Eco Health Alliance is Danzuck
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Some good drugs?
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.

    When you said "blood clot" what did they mean?! Where?

    Sorry to pry, just asking for a male friend in later middle age who drinks too much. He'll be very grateful for any info

    Glad you are still here, old PB pal
    The scan will tell but about 3 years ago now I suddenly got blood clots in both my lungs. It’s a bit dangerous because if bits of them break off and get to your heart or brain the result can be considerably disappointing.

    This seems the same. We never found where the clots came from the last time. No obvious DVT or anything like it. Basically I get put on blood thinners till they dissolve.

    Some speculation that a low grade infection might cause it but the mechanics are beyond me. I have a feeling these blood thinners are going to be permanent from here on.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169
    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
    Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
    Was a really wierd one, as the bride was in tears, her father angry, and about 50 guests remained who had hotels and taxis booked, and just wanted to get pissed. I think the bridal party left quite quickly, but the rest of the guests wanted a party!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    Charles said:

    Leon said:

    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    Me!

    Tho it depends what you mean by "seen". I have sat on a long outdoor bench a 3m distance from my dear old Pa. I haven't hugged him or interacted normally since Xmas 2019

    Does that count?

    He is very old and his younger wife is recovering from cancer so they are hyper-paranoid about normal socialising
    But you didn’t get to hug & kiss him last week? When there have been no meaningful change in the rules for a significant period of time
    Er, no. Not sure of your point? But that might be me being dim. He lives 200 miles away and I worry that he will die without any of us hugging him again.

    I am certain there are many people like him and his wife, who have been terrified into a kind of voluntary quarantine that just goes on and on.

    I have decided to be more Dura Ace. Enough of this shit. Life must go on. I am double jabbed. I don't care any more
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,676
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Quite well by the looks of the photo....
    Great comment but time for him to go
    Its like Cummings, the longer he stays around the more damage it does.
    It would be interesting to hear Kay Burley and him arguing about their behaviour live on Sky

    At least she went away for 6 months
    Every minister interviewed by Burley, needs to bring up her own little problem with following the rules.

    Why are you calling for Mr Hancock to resign, when you didn’t resign yourself?
    Fuck you're telling us that Kay Burley is responsible for setting UK government policy? Which she subsequently ignored?

    Now that is news.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,356
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Some good drugs?
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.

    When you said "blood clot" what did they mean?! Where?

    Sorry to pry, just asking for a male friend in later middle age who drinks too much. He'll be very grateful for any info

    Glad you are still here, old PB pal
    The scan will tell but about 3 years ago now I suddenly got blood clots in both my lungs. It’s a bit dangerous because if bits of them break off and get to your heart or brain the result can be considerably disappointing.

    This seems the same. We never found where the clots came from the last time. No obvious DVT or anything like it. Basically I get put on blood thinners till they dissolve.

    Some speculation that a low grade infection might cause it but the mechanics are beyond me. I have a feeling these blood thinners are going to be permanent from here on.
    Thrombophilia testing? The opposite of haemophilia and much more common.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    edited June 2021
    Leon said:

    Charles said:

    Leon said:

    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    Me!

    Tho it depends what you mean by "seen". I have sat on a long outdoor bench a 3m distance from my dear old Pa. I haven't hugged him or interacted normally since Xmas 2019

    Does that count?

    He is very old and his younger wife is recovering from cancer so they are hyper-paranoid about normal socialising
    But you didn’t get to hug & kiss him last week? When there have been no meaningful change in the rules for a significant period of time
    Er, no. Not sure of your point? But that might be me being dim. He lives 200 miles away and I worry that he will die without any of us hugging him again.

    I am certain there are many people like him and his wife, who have been terrified into a kind of voluntary quarantine that just goes on and on.

    I have decided to be more Dura Ace. Enough of this shit. Life must go on. I am double jabbed. I don't care any more
    And the stats are with you...you are now more likely to be kicking the bucket from about every other thing out there, cancer, heart disease, accident in the home etc etc etc.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654
    ydoethur said:

    Matt Hancock photo prevented from trending on Twitter by anti-porn filters

    Matt Hancock has been prevented from trending on Twitter due to anti-porn filters applied to suspected pornographic terms

    https://inews.co.uk/news/matt-hancock-photo-prevented-from-trending-on-twitter-by-anti-porn-filters-1071913

    Well, there is an enormous arse very prominent in the images.

    It’s groping a woman.
    Inspired.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Some good drugs?
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.

    When you said "blood clot" what did they mean?! Where?

    Sorry to pry, just asking for a male friend in later middle age who drinks too much. He'll be very grateful for any info

    Glad you are still here, old PB pal
    The scan will tell but about 3 years ago now I suddenly got blood clots in both my lungs. It’s a bit dangerous because if bits of them break off and get to your heart or brain the result can be considerably disappointing.

    This seems the same. We never found where the clots came from the last time. No obvious DVT or anything like it. Basically I get put on blood thinners till they dissolve.

    Some speculation that a low grade infection might cause it but the mechanics are beyond me. I have a feeling these blood thinners are going to be permanent from here on.
    Ah, that sounds rough. Sympathies

    But it could have been worse?

    Some of us on here thought you might have croaked it, TBH, the "chest pain" stuff was very ominous.

    Articulate, wry, unionist Scots lawyers are at short supply on PB. Try to stay alive, if you possibly can, for the sake of the site
  • eekeek Posts: 27,939
    Remember when the Ever Green blocked the Suez Canal for a week. Well it's not moved very far as people argue over $1bn in salvage fees.

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/ever-given-global-supply-chain#intcid=_wired-uk-right-rail_d5c11f01-6e5c-422e-964c-108410d3bae6_popular4-1

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,160

    Neil Henderson
    @hendopolis
    ·
    4m
    TELEGRAPH: ⁦
    @MattHancock
    ⁩ faces sack if affair turns into a ‘Barnard Castle moment’ #TomorrowsPapersToday
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Some good drugs?
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.

    When you said "blood clot" what did they mean?! Where?

    Sorry to pry, just asking for a male friend in later middle age who drinks too much. He'll be very grateful for any info

    Glad you are still here, old PB pal
    The scan will tell but about 3 years ago now I suddenly got blood clots in both my lungs. It’s a bit dangerous because if bits of them break off and get to your heart or brain the result can be considerably disappointing.

    This seems the same. We never found where the clots came from the last time. No obvious DVT or anything like it. Basically I get put on blood thinners till they dissolve.

    Some speculation that a low grade infection might cause it but the mechanics are beyond me. I have a feeling these blood thinners are going to be permanent from here on.
    Thrombophilia testing? The opposite of haemophilia and much more common.
    Blood tests suggest some “sticky “ factor was slightly elevated but not hugely so. Both times I had a few days earlier possibly overdone it in the gym. That’s my suspicion.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,011
    My take on B and S. The strategic object of each of the parties was: Lab - hold, Con - gain, Lib Dem - save deposit and increase capacity in Spen, Galloway- disrupt Labour campaign. I reckon all win except Labour.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489
    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.

    The second sounds like a dramatic way of doing it, but did this not mean that they where legally marred, would it not have been, easier/safer to revel before? the ceremony, otherwise was he not liable to lose half of evthing he owns?

    or can the mirage be annulled in such circumstances?

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Some good drugs?
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.

    When you said "blood clot" what did they mean?! Where?

    Sorry to pry, just asking for a male friend in later middle age who drinks too much. He'll be very grateful for any info

    Glad you are still here, old PB pal
    The scan will tell but about 3 years ago now I suddenly got blood clots in both my lungs. It’s a bit dangerous because if bits of them break off and get to your heart or brain the result can be considerably disappointing.

    This seems the same. We never found where the clots came from the last time. No obvious DVT or anything like it. Basically I get put on blood thinners till they dissolve.

    Some speculation that a low grade infection might cause it but the mechanics are beyond me. I have a feeling these blood thinners are going to be permanent from here on.
    Ah, that sounds rough. Sympathies

    But it could have been worse?

    Some of us on here thought you might have croaked it, TBH, the "chest pain" stuff was very ominous.

    Articulate, wry, unionist Scots lawyers are at short supply on PB. Try to stay alive, if you possibly can, for the sake of the site
    And the feeing opportunities, natch.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,160
    Telegraph saying public reaction likely to determine Hancock's future.

    Come on focus groups, do your work.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169
    eek said:

    Remember when the Ever Green blocked the Suez Canal for a week. Well it's not moved very far as people argue over $1bn in salvage fees.

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/ever-given-global-supply-chain#intcid=_wired-uk-right-rail_d5c11f01-6e5c-422e-964c-108410d3bae6_popular4-1

    The ship’s insurers have basically said to the Egyptians that they can keep the damn boat, because it’s not worth a fraction of what they’re trying to claim as damages.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347

    Telegraph saying public reaction likely to determine Hancock's future.

    Come on focus groups, do your work.

    Good bit of push polling should do the trick....Com(edy) Res currently getting the call.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,576


    Neil Henderson
    @hendopolis
    ·
    4m
    TELEGRAPH: ⁦
    @MattHancock
    ⁩ faces sack if affair turns into a ‘Barnard Castle moment’ #TomorrowsPapersToday

    How could it not? This one is far more interesting, even if Cummings was more dislikable.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,993
    edited June 2021
    Foxy said:

    The government will ask the Parole Board to look again at its decision to release a double child killer who was the first murderer to be convicted using DNA evidence.

    Who has been in an open prison for some years.

    A well known case here.
    I read Joseph Wambaugh's "The Blooding" and from that book I formed the opinion (like Lord Lane) that this animal should never see the light of day again. However after 33 years at the age of just 61, he is on his way to his liberty. No freedom for Dawn and Lynda, so far as I can see.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,652
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Some good drugs?
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.

    When you said "blood clot" what did they mean?! Where?

    Sorry to pry, just asking for a male friend in later middle age who drinks too much. He'll be very grateful for any info

    Glad you are still here, old PB pal
    The scan will tell but about 3 years ago now I suddenly got blood clots in both my lungs. It’s a bit dangerous because if bits of them break off and get to your heart or brain the result can be considerably disappointing.

    This seems the same. We never found where the clots came from the last time. No obvious DVT or anything like it. Basically I get put on blood thinners till they dissolve.

    Some speculation that a low grade infection might cause it but the mechanics are beyond me. I have a feeling these blood thinners are going to be permanent from here on.
    May the good Lord protect you. V sorry to hear you are having a tough time.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169
    BigRich said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.

    The second sounds like a dramatic way of doing it, but did this not mean that they where legally marred, would it not have been, easier/safer to revel before? the ceremony, otherwise was he not liable to lose half of evthing he owns?

    or can the mirage be annulled in such circumstances?
    It would have been annulled. The groom wanted to go through with the day, purely because her father was paying for it.
  • eekeek Posts: 27,939
    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Remember when the Ever Green blocked the Suez Canal for a week. Well it's not moved very far as people argue over $1bn in salvage fees.

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/ever-given-global-supply-chain#intcid=_wired-uk-right-rail_d5c11f01-6e5c-422e-964c-108410d3bae6_popular4-1

    The ship’s insurers have basically said to the Egyptians that they can keep the damn boat, because it’s not worth a fraction of what they’re trying to claim as damages.
    That covers the excess but it still leaves the rest of the money to be found - and that money will be coming from everyone including the people with containers on the ship.

    International Maritime law is everyone's responsible and will pay their bit.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,939
    Just looked out of our dining room window and saw a barn owl fly by. Lovely sight.
  • Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347

    Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.

    Sneaky little buggers......
  • eekeek Posts: 27,939
    BigRich said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.

    The second sounds like a dramatic way of doing it, but did this not mean that they where legally marred, would it not have been, easier/safer to revel before? the ceremony, otherwise was he not liable to lose half of evthing he owns?

    or can the mirage be annulled in such circumstances?

    Depends who has the money - if she has money and he was poor he could get half of what she owned.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    Three people have been killed and several wounded in a stabbing attack in the southern German town of Würzburg, Bavarian authorities said on Friday afternoon, adding that police had stopped the suspected perpetrator with a shot to the leg.

    The suspected attacker is believed to be a 24-year-old Somali man who has lived in Würzburg since 2015, Bavarian interior minister Joachim Herrmann said in a statement.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/25/dead-and-wounded-in-stabbing-attack-in-germany-wurzburg
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489

    do we know who is funding galloway?

    novara media says he has ten full time organizers in batley.

    Full time organisers could still be unpaid volatiers?
  • eekeek Posts: 27,939

    Telegraph saying public reaction likely to determine Hancock's future.

    Come on focus groups, do your work.

    Government by focus group (although Tory policy) doesn't look good when it's so completely blatantly obvious.
  • The long-awaited UAP report is apparently out.



    “Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, w/out discernable means of propulsion. In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed RF energy associated w/ UAP sightings.”

  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,652
    TOPPING said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Quite well by the looks of the photo....
    Great comment but time for him to go
    Its like Cummings, the longer he stays around the more damage it does.
    It would be interesting to hear Kay Burley and him arguing about their behaviour live on Sky

    At least she went away for 6 months
    Every minister interviewed by Burley, needs to bring up her own little problem with following the rules.

    Why are you calling for Mr Hancock to resign, when you didn’t resign yourself?
    Fuck you're telling us that Kay Burley is responsible for setting UK government policy? Which she subsequently ignored?

    Now that is news.
    You can.only attack.the journo if there is nothing in your own cupboard......
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,497

    Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.

    I heard they were orange, and not little, but bigly.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,666

    The long-awaited UAP report is apparently out.



    “Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, w/out discernable means of propulsion. In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed RF energy associated w/ UAP sightings.”

    "We currenly lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary"
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,732
    moonshine said:

    The long-awaited UAP report is apparently out.



    “Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, w/out discernable means of propulsion. In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed RF energy associated w/ UAP sightings.”

    "We currenly lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary"
    Or a branch of their own government.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,666
    moonshine said:

    The long-awaited UAP report is apparently out.



    “Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, w/out discernable means of propulsion. In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed RF energy associated w/ UAP sightings.”

    "We currenly lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary"
    Our analysis of the data supports the construct that if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved they will fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, USG or U.S. industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall “other” bin.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169
    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Remember when the Ever Green blocked the Suez Canal for a week. Well it's not moved very far as people argue over $1bn in salvage fees.

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/ever-given-global-supply-chain#intcid=_wired-uk-right-rail_d5c11f01-6e5c-422e-964c-108410d3bae6_popular4-1

    The ship’s insurers have basically said to the Egyptians that they can keep the damn boat, because it’s not worth a fraction of what they’re trying to claim as damages.
    That covers the excess but it still leaves the rest of the money to be found - and that money will be coming from everyone including the people with containers on the ship.

    International Maritime law is everyone's responsible and will pay their bit.
    Yes, maritime law is a little weird in that context.

    The problem is that, in the minds of the insurers of “Ever Given”, all the ships that were delayed eventually got through, and the Egyptian government which runs the canal haven’t actually lost any money.

    There were a lot of delays to ships sailing through the canal, but those losses didn’t accrue to the Egyptians, who seem to be making up a number and doubling it. Their actual losses are limited to the canal fees from a few ships that diverted around Africa.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,654

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.
    Some good drugs?
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Good to see you posting @DavidL

    How are you doing?

    I’ve waited all day for a scan that may now happen tomorrow. Bit frustrating but I feel much better. Got an exciting injection in the stomach to look forward to at 11. Breaks the tedium, I suppose.

    When you said "blood clot" what did they mean?! Where?

    Sorry to pry, just asking for a male friend in later middle age who drinks too much. He'll be very grateful for any info

    Glad you are still here, old PB pal
    The scan will tell but about 3 years ago now I suddenly got blood clots in both my lungs. It’s a bit dangerous because if bits of them break off and get to your heart or brain the result can be considerably disappointing.

    This seems the same. We never found where the clots came from the last time. No obvious DVT or anything like it. Basically I get put on blood thinners till they dissolve.

    Some speculation that a low grade infection might cause it but the mechanics are beyond me. I have a feeling these blood thinners are going to be permanent from here on.
    May the good Lord protect you. V sorry to hear you are having a tough time.
    I think that Voltaire covered that best so thank you.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,666
    moonshine said:

    moonshine said:

    The long-awaited UAP report is apparently out.



    “Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, w/out discernable means of propulsion. In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed RF energy associated w/ UAP sightings.”

    "We currenly lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary"
    Our analysis of the data supports the construct that if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved they will fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, USG or U.S. industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall “other” bin.
    Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared, electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,114
    Leon said:

    Charles said:

    Leon said:

    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    Me!

    Tho it depends what you mean by "seen". I have sat on a long outdoor bench a 3m distance from my dear old Pa. I haven't hugged him or interacted normally since Xmas 2019

    Does that count?

    He is very old and his younger wife is recovering from cancer so they are hyper-paranoid about normal socialising
    But you didn’t get to hug & kiss him last week? When there have been no meaningful change in the rules for a significant period of time
    Er, no. Not sure of your point? But that might be me being dim. He lives 200 miles away and I worry that he will die without any of us hugging him again.

    I am certain there are many people like him and his wife, who have been terrified into a kind of voluntary quarantine that just goes on and on.

    I have decided to be more Dura Ace. Enough of this shit. Life must go on. I am double jabbed. I don't care any more
    Met up with a couple on Wednesday at a bbq for which it was their first ‘outing’ since March 2020. I guess it depends, but some have been very careful throughout.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
    Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
    Was a really wierd one, as the bride was in tears, her father angry, and about 50 guests remained who had hotels and taxis booked, and just wanted to get pissed. I think the bridal party left quite quickly, but the rest of the guests wanted a party!
    Why would the groom go through with the wedding though?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Leon said:

    Charles said:

    Leon said:

    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    Me!

    Tho it depends what you mean by "seen". I have sat on a long outdoor bench a 3m distance from my dear old Pa. I haven't hugged him or interacted normally since Xmas 2019

    Does that count?

    He is very old and his younger wife is recovering from cancer so they are hyper-paranoid about normal socialising
    But you didn’t get to hug & kiss him last week? When there have been no meaningful change in the rules for a significant period of time
    Er, no. Not sure of your point? But that might be me being dim. He lives 200 miles away and I worry that he will die without any of us hugging him again.

    I am certain there are many people like him and his wife, who have been terrified into a kind of voluntary quarantine that just goes on and on.

    I have decided to be more Dura Ace. Enough of this shit. Life must go on. I am double jabbed. I don't care any more
    That’s the only reason I can think of - Paterson hasn’t been double jabbed and therefore he wasn’t seeing his parents.

    But I suspect he’s made it up. Or is lying as it is also known
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169
    Charles said:

    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
    Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
    Was a really wierd one, as the bride was in tears, her father angry, and about 50 guests remained who had hotels and taxis booked, and just wanted to get pissed. I think the bridal party left quite quickly, but the rest of the guests wanted a party!
    Why would the groom go through with the wedding though?
    Because the bride’s father was paying for it.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Remember when the Ever Green blocked the Suez Canal for a week. Well it's not moved very far as people argue over $1bn in salvage fees.

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/ever-given-global-supply-chain#intcid=_wired-uk-right-rail_d5c11f01-6e5c-422e-964c-108410d3bae6_popular4-1

    The ship’s insurers have basically said to the Egyptians that they can keep the damn boat, because it’s not worth a fraction of what they’re trying to claim as damages.
    Will be interesting if they can get consequential damages
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489
    Charles said:

    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
    Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
    Was a really wierd one, as the bride was in tears, her father angry, and about 50 guests remained who had hotels and taxis booked, and just wanted to get pissed. I think the bridal party left quite quickly, but the rest of the guests wanted a party!
    Why would the groom go through with the wedding though?
    That's my thoughts, if you what the big dramatic moment, hand out the envelops at the church and then ask them to open them, as the bride is at the back door about to walk up. or something like that.

    Her Dad will have still paid for everything by that point. and saves a lot of hustle afterwards
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,666
    So:
    A) they are a real physical phenomena
    B) there’s no evidence they’re a foreign adversary
    C) in most cases the observations were multi sensory, theres an undisclosed number of other incidents without formal reporting due to the “sociocultural stigma”
    D) in at least 18 cases they showed “unusual” flight characteristics.

    More money and research needed and a streamlined and transparent reporting process:

    “The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management… we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them”.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557
    Brilliantly understated paragraph

    "Other: Although most of the UAP described in our dataset probably remain unidentified due to
    limited data or challenges to collection processing or analysis, we may require additional
    scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them. We
    would group such objects in this category pending scientific advances that allowed us to better
    understand them. The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases
    where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management"

    We may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully characterize some of them


    ie We are not as smart as ET

  • Sandpit said:

    Charles said:

    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
    Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
    Was a really wierd one, as the bride was in tears, her father angry, and about 50 guests remained who had hotels and taxis booked, and just wanted to get pissed. I think the bridal party left quite quickly, but the rest of the guests wanted a party!
    Why would the groom go through with the wedding though?
    Because the bride’s father was paying for it.
    Seems a bit mean. You would have expected him to go and see the father and tell him the wedding was off and why. The story would get out anyway.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169
    BigRich said:

    Charles said:

    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
    Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
    Was a really wierd one, as the bride was in tears, her father angry, and about 50 guests remained who had hotels and taxis booked, and just wanted to get pissed. I think the bridal party left quite quickly, but the rest of the guests wanted a party!
    Why would the groom go through with the wedding though?
    That's my thoughts, if you what the big dramatic moment, hand out the envelops at the church and then ask them to open them, as the bride is at the back door about to walk up. or something like that.

    Her Dad will have still paid for everything by that point. and saves a lot of hustle afterwards
    Yeah, maybe it would have been better to do it in the church.

    But if he had done it that way, the waiter at the reception wouldn’t be telling the story 25 years later... ;)
  • Charles said:

    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Remember when the Ever Green blocked the Suez Canal for a week. Well it's not moved very far as people argue over $1bn in salvage fees.

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/ever-given-global-supply-chain#intcid=_wired-uk-right-rail_d5c11f01-6e5c-422e-964c-108410d3bae6_popular4-1

    The ship’s insurers have basically said to the Egyptians that they can keep the damn boat, because it’s not worth a fraction of what they’re trying to claim as damages.
    Will be interesting if they can get consequential damages
    Was the canal not damaged?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.

    The lizards got there first I guess
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.

    I thought it was interesting - most of them are classified as physical in nature

    "Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a
    majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared,
    electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation."

    Far too early to say what they are

  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,506

    Leon said:

    Charles said:

    Leon said:

    Charles said:


    Niall Paterson
    @skynewsniall
    ·
    3h
    I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.

    Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
    Me!

    Tho it depends what you mean by "seen". I have sat on a long outdoor bench a 3m distance from my dear old Pa. I haven't hugged him or interacted normally since Xmas 2019

    Does that count?

    He is very old and his younger wife is recovering from cancer so they are hyper-paranoid about normal socialising
    But you didn’t get to hug & kiss him last week? When there have been no meaningful change in the rules for a significant period of time
    Er, no. Not sure of your point? But that might be me being dim. He lives 200 miles away and I worry that he will die without any of us hugging him again.

    I am certain there are many people like him and his wife, who have been terrified into a kind of voluntary quarantine that just goes on and on.

    I have decided to be more Dura Ace. Enough of this shit. Life must go on. I am double jabbed. I don't care any more
    And the stats are with you...you are now more likely to be kicking the bucket from about every other thing out there, cancer, heart disease, accident in the home etc etc etc.
    I'm in that boat too.
    Met a friend today. We defiantly elected to greet each other with a handshake. Felt vaguely thrilling.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,666
    Charles said:

    Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.

    The lizards got there first I guess
    If you think it’s a letdown then you’ve not been paying attention to how this is playing out.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,751
    Christ, hadn’t seen the full sexy-sexy time vid till now.

    https://twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/1408523194596737026?s=21
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,160
    Sun has full video of Hancock in action.
  • Nunu3Nunu3 Posts: 216
    Floater said:

    Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.

    I thought it was interesting - most of them are classified as physical in nature

    "Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a
    majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared,
    electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation."

    Far too early to say what they are

    America has by far the most advanced military in the world. If they don't what they are, then they are out of this world.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,769

    BigRich said:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccinated-people-account-for-half-of-new-covid-19-delta-cases-in-israeli-outbreak-11624624326

    If accurate this is a bit worrying,

    Delta has now got to Israel, No surprise there it was going to eventually

    It is spreading, No surprise, as it has toped out at about 63% of population vaccinated,

    Allegedly, half of all new positive tests are in people vaccinated, That's a surprise and bad is accurate.

    I say allegedly, because exact numbers are not given. and it doesn't mesh with other data, so may be some hyperbaly or exaggeration but still worrying.

    Do we need to panic about Israel? not yet, its still small numbers, and the vaccine probably means the cases will be less severe.

    What is Israel doing? they have reimpose some restrictions and are have started vaccinating children down to 12

    Asymptomatic infection among the vaccinated doesn't matter.
    Doesn't matter for the vaccinated. No free rider effect for the antivaxxers though.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    So the UAP report is Project Blue Book redux then?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Sandpit said:

    Charles said:

    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    glw said:

    Roger said:

    Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad

    The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.

    Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
    I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
    I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
    I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day

    The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
    In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:

    1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.

    2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
    Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
    Was a really wierd one, as the bride was in tears, her father angry, and about 50 guests remained who had hotels and taxis booked, and just wanted to get pissed. I think the bridal party left quite quickly, but the rest of the guests wanted a party!
    Why would the groom go through with the wedding though?
    Because the bride’s father was paying for it.
    Cancel at the last minute then
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,042
    edited June 2021
    This mash-up between Hancock fondling a woman's bottom and UFOs is causing all sorts of strange mental imagery.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,497
    moonshine said:

    So:
    A) they are a real physical phenomena
    B) there’s no evidence they’re a foreign adversary
    C) in most cases the observations were multi sensory, theres an undisclosed number of other incidents without formal reporting due to the “sociocultural stigma”
    D) in at least 18 cases they showed “unusual” flight characteristics.

    More money and research needed and a streamlined and transparent reporting process:

    “The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management… we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them”.

    So this big report just says UAP appear to be flying in an unexplained way? If we had stuck with UFO as their TLA we wouldn't have needed the report to tell us that!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,169

    Christ, hadn’t seen the full sexy-sexy time vid till now.

    https://twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/1408523194596737026?s=21

    Oh dear, in his office?

    Lots of questions as to how that video got to a newspaper.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,557

    Christ, hadn’t seen the full sexy-sexy time vid till now.

    https://twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/1408523194596737026?s=21

    This is distasteful. He has a wife and kids. He's cheated on her. He should resign now. But this hurts some innocent people. Enuff
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