So: A) they are a real physical phenomena there’s no evidence they’re a foreign adversary C) in most cases the observations were multi sensory, theres an undisclosed number of other incidents without formal reporting due to the “sociocultural stigma” D) in at least 18 cases they showed “unusual” flight characteristics.
More money and research needed and a streamlined and transparent reporting process:
“The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management… we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them”.
So this big report just says UAP appear to be flying in an unexplained way? If we had stuck with UFO as their TLA we wouldn't have needed the report to tell us that!
So the UAP report is Project Blue Book redux then?
Least surprising surprise ever. None of the really convincing videos ever make it out, and tbh in the modern age, I doubt any would be believed with our ability to fake stuff.
"Other: Although most of the UAP described in our dataset probably remain unidentified due to limited data or challenges to collection processing or analysis, we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them. We would group such objects in this category pending scientific advances that allowed us to better understand them. The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management"
We may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully characterize some of them
ie We are not as smart as ET
Some very naive people were expecting the American government to say "yep, they were aliens 100%". That was never going to happen
Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.
I thought it was interesting - most of them are classified as physical in nature
"Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared, electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation."
Far too early to say what they are
America has by far the most advanced military in the world. If they don't what they are, then they are out of this world.
As someone said the other day - China spends a lot of time and effort spying to try and get info on far more mundane technologies
The quality of Chinese stuff is err variable
Unlikely to be them or Russia
I particularly liked "unusual flight characteristics" - yeah instantaneous acceleration and ability to hang around for many, many hours are pretty unusual
Anyone watching Ch4 News would bet the house on Hancock going. Probably tonight. It's a firing squad
The problem is *if* Johnson has a similar skeleton in a similarly socially undistanced cupboard, and should it come to light, he would surely be obliged to go too. And Johnson being Johnson, that is not beyond the realms of probability.
Can I hear the sound of distant violins?
I'd be surprised is Boris hasn't been cheating on Carrie.
I know someone who cheated on the day of his wedding with the brides best female...friend... nothing is impossible..
I know the diametric opposite. A bride who fucked the best man on the wedding day
The human comedy is nothing if not diverse and egalitarian
In my younger days, I worked in F&B at a golf club that did a lot of weddings. The two highlights from attending a couple of hundred weddings were:
1. The group of, err, travellers, who booked a room for 100 people but 1,000 turned up, that finished with the bar ransacked, two other events disrupted and the staff locking themselves in the cellar, as the police called us back to say they were going to be a while as they were calling in reinforcements. Six riot vans turned up to disperse the crowd.
2. The one where the husband found out about his wife shagging the best man. The groom had put an envelope on each table, with a note saying do not open until told. He stood up to make his speech, asked everyone to open the envelopes which contained photos of the wife and best man in flagrante, he thanked her father for the £25,000 that the day had cost him, and invited his family and friends to join him in leaving the venue. Which they did.
Number 2 is a day that I suspect ever guest remembers for good and bad.
Was a really wierd one, as the bride was in tears, her father angry, and about 50 guests remained who had hotels and taxis booked, and just wanted to get pissed. I think the bridal party left quite quickly, but the rest of the guests wanted a party!
Why would the groom go through with the wedding though?
Because the bride’s father was paying for it.
Cancel at the last minute then
In which case the father would be arguing with the venue, that the wine wasn’t used and should be refunded. Much better (from the groom’s point of view) to go through with the whole thing, embarrass the hell out of her in front of everyone when all the money has definitely been spent, then get the marriage annulled later.
So: A) they are a real physical phenomena there’s no evidence they’re a foreign adversary C) in most cases the observations were multi sensory, theres an undisclosed number of other incidents without formal reporting due to the “sociocultural stigma” D) in at least 18 cases they showed “unusual” flight characteristics.
More money and research needed and a streamlined and transparent reporting process:
“The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management… we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them”.
So this big report just says UAP appear to be flying in an unexplained way? If we had stuck with UFO as their TLA we wouldn't have needed the report to tell us that!
No, an unexplainable way.
Cavemen (probably) couldn't explain how a bird flew away very clearly. It does not make them alien.
This might be a silly question but when Gordo got all shouty with the mother who lost her solider son, when he called to apologise, we were told we couldn't hear it, something something, without his consent, was using #10 phone etc. The Sun did put it up on the web, but all the rest of the media wouldn't play, instead we got a read out of the conversation.
How is this different?
(For the record, I think Gordo was a bit hard done by over the original lettergate story, but his reaction on the phone was bad and I think we have every right to hear it, as we do about Hancock's goings on...although I don't need to see the full video).
So: A) they are a real physical phenomena there’s no evidence they’re a foreign adversary C) in most cases the observations were multi sensory, theres an undisclosed number of other incidents without formal reporting due to the “sociocultural stigma” D) in at least 18 cases they showed “unusual” flight characteristics.
More money and research needed and a streamlined and transparent reporting process:
“The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management… we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them”.
So this big report just says UAP appear to be flying in an unexplained way? If we had stuck with UFO as their TLA we wouldn't have needed the report to tell us that!
No, an unexplainable way.
Cavemen (probably) couldn't explain how a bird flew away very clearly. It does not make them alien.
Tee hee. Even now some of you can’t see what’s right in front of you.
Niall Paterson @skynewsniall · 3h I got to hug and kiss my mum and dad last week for the first time in almost a year. Matt Hancock was one of those who told me what I could and could not do; he apparently broke the rules that he told me (literally, given my job, to my face on occasion) I had to follow.
Who has been unable to see their parents in the last several months? Unless they live abroad?
Me!
Tho it depends what you mean by "seen". I have sat on a long outdoor bench a 3m distance from my dear old Pa. I haven't hugged him or interacted normally since Xmas 2019
Does that count?
He is very old and his younger wife is recovering from cancer so they are hyper-paranoid about normal socialising
But you didn’t get to hug & kiss him last week? When there have been no meaningful change in the rules for a significant period of time
Er, no. Not sure of your point? But that might be me being dim. He lives 200 miles away and I worry that he will die without any of us hugging him again.
I am certain there are many people like him and his wife, who have been terrified into a kind of voluntary quarantine that just goes on and on.
I have decided to be more Dura Ace. Enough of this shit. Life must go on. I am double jabbed. I don't care any more
That’s the only reason I can think of - Paterson hasn’t been double jabbed and therefore he wasn’t seeing his parents.
But I suspect he’s made it up. Or is lying as it is also known
Yes, sounds like possible bollocks. And of course there are people who have used the pandemic as an excuse not to see their parents. And maybe for good reason. It's a messy old world.
This is distasteful. He has a wife and kids. He's cheated on her. He should resign now. But this hurts some innocent people. Enuff
As soon as Hancock resigns the public interest angle for the Sun to release any video or photos that they have is much diminished. I do wonder how much material they have, and whether we might have many days of new photos and video to be released.
If Hancock wants to save his family the anguish it's on him to take the necessary action.
So: A) they are a real physical phenomena there’s no evidence they’re a foreign adversary C) in most cases the observations were multi sensory, theres an undisclosed number of other incidents without formal reporting due to the “sociocultural stigma” D) in at least 18 cases they showed “unusual” flight characteristics.
More money and research needed and a streamlined and transparent reporting process:
“The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management… we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them”.
So this big report just says UAP appear to be flying in an unexplained way? If we had stuck with UFO as their TLA we wouldn't have needed the report to tell us that!
No, an unexplainable way.
Cavemen (probably) couldn't explain how a bird flew away very clearly. It does not make them alien.
Tee hee. Even now some of you can’t see what’s right in front of you.
What I see is a report saying unidentified flying objects have been renamed UAP's and they have worked out they fly and are unidentified and unexplained. And they want more cash and funding to investigate further, and some publicity to make some more cash as well......
That will be played over and over again on 24 hour news (unfortunately) and the pressure will be untenable for him. He'll be gone before the weekend is out.
Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.
The lizards got there first I guess
If you think it’s a letdown then you’ve not been paying attention to how this is playing out.
I’ve not read it, and I’m not going to read it. It’s not interesting to me.
But I am reading a fascinating revisionist history of the conquistadors
The Pentagon report does not mention the words alien, little green men or extra terrestrial once. It does say that there is a real physical phenomena that they cannot explain without scientific advancement. And also that:
“UAP clearly pose a safety of flight issue and may pose a challenge to U.S. national security.”
It’s extraordinary that on this issue you have such an incurious mind that you won’t even read it. You spend your time reading and thinking about all sorts of crap, including tittle tattle about a D list Hollywood actress and her husband.
But you don’t care that the most well funded military in the world that underpins global security, just announced that there’s an aerial phenomenon that is a threat to flight safety and might be a threat to national security, despite having no evidence it belong to a foreign adversary.
This is distasteful. He has a wife and kids. He's cheated on her. He should resign now. But this hurts some innocent people. Enuff
Hancock is a scoundrel then. But why was it OK for Bozza to cheat on Marina and her children?
It’s never okay. For some reason, politicians seem to be more unfaithful than the general population.
Power is an aphrodisiac and they meet an extraordinary number of people and travel a lot. I'd imagine someone in a travelling sales role in most industries is also far more likely to be unfaithful than most from the travel and number of people they meet as well. It is not particularly surprising imo.
Apparently the UAP report is a letdown. No little green men.
The lizards got there first I guess
If you think it’s a letdown then you’ve not been paying attention to how this is playing out.
I’ve not read it, and I’m not going to read it. It’s not interesting to me.
But I am reading a fascinating revisionist history of the conquistadors
The Pentagon report does not mention the words alien, little green men or extra terrestrial once. It does say that there is a real physical phenomena that they cannot explain without scientific advancement. And also that:
“UAP clearly pose a safety of flight issue and may pose a challenge to U.S. national security.”
It’s extraordinary that on this issue you have such an incurious mind that you won’t even read it. You spend your time reading and thinking about all sorts of crap, including tittle tattle about a D list Hollywood actress and her husband.
But you don’t care that the most well funded military in the world that underpins global security, just announced that there’s an aerial phenomenon that is a threat to flight safety and might be a threat to national security, despite having no evidence it belong to a foreign adversary.
Just think on that.
I don’t have an incurious mind.
But I have strictly limited time available for non professional reading and that doesn’t make the grade.
If it is important I will be briefed on it in due course.
Presumably she'll be kneeling down in the next video.
Don’t want to think about that, but the fact that the CCTV operator in the government is sending videos to newspapers, should give a few ministers pause for thought.
Presumably she'll be kneeling down in the next video.
Don’t want to think about that, but the fact that the CCTV operator in the government is sending videos to newspapers, should give a few ministers pause for thought.
Am I the only one who thinks it is no 10 doing the leaking? Not some random cctv operator.
The government will ask the Parole Board to look again at its decision to release a double child killer who was the first murderer to be convicted using DNA evidence.
Who has been in an open prison for some years.
A well known case here.
I read Joseph Wambaugh's "The Blooding" and from that book I formed the opinion (like Lord Lane) that this animal should never see the light of day again. However after 33 years at the age of just 61, he is on his way to his liberty. No freedom for Dawn and Lynda, so far as I can see.
That, sadly, is in the nature of murder cases. As for their killer, either life means life or there is some chance at redemption and release. Press coverage might not be the best determinant but it is the most effective. I'd not want to make the decision.
I've not read the book but the investigation was dramatised in Code of a Killer. Apparently funding for the unprecedented and necessarily unproven DNA sweep was initially refused by the Home Office until a chance encounter with Denis Thatcher at some do or other.
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But I am reading a fascinating revisionist history of the conquistadors
But I guess this answers the question of 'Was it a full afire or just a kiss'.
The quality of Chinese stuff is err variable
Unlikely to be them or Russia
I particularly liked "unusual flight characteristics" - yeah instantaneous acceleration and ability to hang around for many, many hours are pretty unusual
How is this different?
(For the record, I think Gordo was a bit hard done by over the original lettergate story, but his reaction on the phone was bad and I think we have every right to hear it, as we do about Hancock's goings on...although I don't need to see the full video).
If Hancock wants to save his family the anguish it's on him to take the necessary action.
That will be played over and over again on 24 hour news (unfortunately) and the pressure will be untenable for him. He'll be gone before the weekend is out.
“UAP clearly pose a safety of flight issue and may pose a challenge to U.S. national security.”
It’s extraordinary that on this issue you have such an incurious mind that you won’t even read it. You spend your time reading and thinking about all sorts of crap, including tittle tattle about a D list Hollywood actress and her husband.
But you don’t care that the most well funded military in the world that underpins global security, just announced that there’s an aerial phenomenon that is a threat to flight safety and might be a threat to national security, despite having no evidence it belong to a foreign adversary.
Just think on that.
But I have strictly limited time available for non professional reading and that doesn’t make the grade.
If it is important I will be briefed on it in due course.
I've not read the book but the investigation was dramatised in Code of a Killer. Apparently funding for the unprecedented and necessarily unproven DNA sweep was initially refused by the Home Office until a chance encounter with Denis Thatcher at some do or other.