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I don't think it absolutely necessary every single political leader weight in super fast.RobD said:
Missing the SNP, no?Black_Rook said:
And this from the Irish Times:CarlottaVance said:
Northern Ireland first minister Arlene Foster branded the EU’s triggering of Article 16 an “incredible act of hostility” while Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald called it a “grave error’.
There, the Shinners are onboard. We now have the UK Government, the Irish Coalition Government, Labour, the SDLP, the Alliance, the DUP and Sinn Fein all on the same side. A full house.0 -
AZN reaction has been incredibly calm and collected. Like a comedian being repeatedly heckled with more and more outrageous slurs and just carrying on with their routine.kle4 said:
I'm not generally a fan of use of the term u-turn, but this seems like it would be a very appropriate usage.CarlottaVance said:
Perhaps the EU finally has realised they took their rhetoric too far and need to dial it back, as neither the UK nor AZ are playing ball to look super unreasonable and help them out.1 -
Not arsedPagan2 said:
I am assuming as you keep posting but have failed to back up your assertion you are recanting...I think most will unless you back it upbigjohnowls said:
Indeed and nothing goes up my arseBenpointer said:
Pah, soft Brexiteers - traitors in the eyes of the People's Front of Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:
John voted for Brexit.Pagan2 said:
What total and utter bollocks....admit it you can't point to a single post where someone has suggested we should keep vaccines from the EU take your europhilia and use it as a suppositorybigjohnowls said:
"Bricking up the Channel Tunnel" would suggest YesRichard_Tyndall said:
Nobigjohnowls said:
Weren't some PBers in favour of export bans of AZ earlier in the week because we needed it first.
But a Pfizer export ban for exactly the same reason by the EU is tantamount to WWIII
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It should be hard to do what they did - when you redact using typical software it then prompts you to remove that additional level of info.alex_ said:
Lol - surely you print and scan???FrancisUrquhart said:
Chris Grayling combined with Gavin Williamson level incompetency.Andy_JS said:0 -
She couldn't crib her answers over this crisis from an existing textbook...CarlottaVance said:Oh, I don't think there was much doubt.....
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You think politicians ever pay for their misdeeds ...Mexicanpete said:
Your though process sounds like the logic one would anticipate from Andrew RT Davies.YBarddCwsc said:
The Shagster is a jammy bastard, isn't he ?Mexicanpete said:
And it's a big win too. Is it just the first, or the first and last?Andy_JS said:
Basically, in the entire pandemic, he has got one thing right.
The most important thing.
If you were told at outset you could only get one thing right, you'd choose the vaccines.
Personally, I don't think vaccine provision, masterminded by Cummings should be Johnson's get out of jail free card. It is an enormous victory for an incumbent, however the PPE debacle, track and trace, locking down late, opening up early, and horrific fatalities should not be forgotten. As you hinted some weeks ago, perhaps Johnson's earlier dereliction of duties should see him sharing Drakeford's cell.
Your statement is something akin to "OK so I caused the motorway pile up, but despite the carnage and death toll, I saved the minibus full of Nuns, therefore I am exempt from a death by dangerous driving rap"!
I am a good deal more cynical. I don't even expect Trump will end up in a dripping prison cell ... let alone Johnson or Drakeford.
So, back to 'RT". Did the Welsh Tories do right? I can't quite decide myself.
On the one hand, RT's a blustering, braying fool of a politician.
But, on the other hand, there are a lot of UKIP voters to mop up in the Senedd elections ...1 -
Johnny [Foreigner]: 'You're tearing me apart, Pfizer!'Sunil_Prasannan said:
"Oh, hi, Mark!"MarqueeMark said:BTW - greetings to recent delurkers. Great to see you. Hope a few more appear as well.
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Please write a book. Will buy a copy in advance.DougSeal said:
I once ran an entire sex discrimination case based upon someone forgetting to accept the tracked changes when sending the contract to m client.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
For years I used to find supposedly redacted data on official precinct election canvass reports, for precincts with very small number of ballots, where all the votes cast in a particular race were for the same candidate.Andy_JS said:From earlier today.
https://twitter.com/lijukic/status/1355164987212390402
For some elections in some counties (which shall remain nameless) the numbers would be redacted on pdfs, however if you copied the data and uploaded it into a spreadsheet, the redacted numbers would appear.
Reckon there are many more examples out there in the wide, wild world of IT.1 -
Presumably why the attempt to gaslight and say it wasn't actuallly triggered?CarlottaVance said:Oh, I don't think there was much doubt.....
https://twitter.com/Mij_Europe/status/1355261100703571975?s=201 -
And I used to think that Bush I was impressive for getting the Arabs and Israelis to go to war - on the same side....Richard_Tyndall said:
Wow. They have finally united Ireland!!Floater said:Come on people - give it up for the EU!!!
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/13552555762515271712 -
And you're on tonight pursuing your weird, misogyny tinged grudge against Sturgeon, so situation normal.squareroot2 said:
Malc will be on tomorrow to tell us that the sainted Nicola is impervious and therefore untouchable 🤣🤣🤣Pulpstar said:Sturgeon's been very quiet this evening.
In fact you're so out of touch you don't even realise Malc is not Sturgeon's no 1 fan.0 -
Doesn't mean they often issue similarly critical statements of the EU.TheScreamingEagles said:
Wait until Mark finds out the DUP and Sinn Fein are in government together, their partnership goes back to 2007.Floater said:Come on people - give it up for the EU!!!
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/13552555762515271710 -
And it shows they did it without asking Ireland.CarlottaVance said:0 -
The Commission knows it has made a mistake all week, the issue is it has refused to admit it and has instead sought to start a vaccine war and blame others for it. So will they actually take action to stop this row? A row they started.CarlottaVance said:2 -
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It was never about Ireland.....RobD said:
And it shows they did it without asking Ireland.CarlottaVance said:2 -
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They are Best Frenemies. They need each other. They hate each other. It's Batman and the Joker - if one of them won, it would ruin the game.kle4 said:
Doesn't mean they oftn issue similarly critical statements of the EU.TheScreamingEagles said:
Wait until Mark finds out the DUP and Sinn Fein are in government together, their partnership goes back to 2007.Floater said:Come on people - give it up for the EU!!!
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/1355255576251527171
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I think Malc is happy to put the boot into Sturgeon when he gets the chance. Don't forget his only definite non familial loyalties are to Sindy and Alex Salmond.squareroot2 said:
Malc will be on tomorrow to tell us that the sainted Nicola is impervious and therefore untouchable 🤣🤣🤣Pulpstar said:Sturgeon's been very quiet this evening.
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To be honest she must be the only person in the world who didn't realise that.williamglenn said:0 -
so we will all take it you were talking out of your arsebigjohnowls said:
Not arsedPagan2 said:
I am assuming as you keep posting but have failed to back up your assertion you are recanting...I think most will unless you back it upbigjohnowls said:
Indeed and nothing goes up my arseBenpointer said:
Pah, soft Brexiteers - traitors in the eyes of the People's Front of Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:
John voted for Brexit.Pagan2 said:
What total and utter bollocks....admit it you can't point to a single post where someone has suggested we should keep vaccines from the EU take your europhilia and use it as a suppositorybigjohnowls said:
"Bricking up the Channel Tunnel" would suggest YesRichard_Tyndall said:
Nobigjohnowls said:
Weren't some PBers in favour of export bans of AZ earlier in the week because we needed it first.
But a Pfizer export ban for exactly the same reason by the EU is tantamount to WWIII
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Definitely. I suppose it's similar to the situation where people who don't understand computers believe that by putting documents in the trash/wastebasket they really have deleted them from the computer's hard drive.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
For years I used to find supposedly redacted data on official precinct election canvass reports, for precincts with very small number of ballots, where all the votes cast in a particular race were for the same candidate.Andy_JS said:From earlier today.
https://twitter.com/lijukic/status/1355164987212390402
For some elections in some counties (which shall remain nameless) the numbers would be redacted on pdfs, however if you copied the data and uploaded it into a spreadsheet, the redacted numbers would appear.
Reckon there are many more examples out there in the wide, wild world of IT.0 -
Yeah, but a "partnership" to share out NI govt jobs & other goodies.TheScreamingEagles said:
Wait until Mark finds out the DUP and Sinn Fein are in government together, their partnership goes back to 2007.Floater said:Come on people - give it up for the EU!!!
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/1355255576251527171
THIS is rather different, though anti-COVID jabs ARE very good goodies, as goodies go.0 -
Have the The Really Really Keeping' It Real IRA issued a statement yet? Also the fuckwit Loyalist Parties haven't shown up, yet? So its just the (semi) grown ups in Ireland so far.Big_G_NorthWales said:
What a mess but the EU always have Nicola to call onBlack_Rook said:
And this from the Irish Times:CarlottaVance said:
Northern Ireland first minister Arlene Foster branded the EU’s triggering of Article 16 an “incredible act of hostility” while Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald called it a “grave error’.
There, the Shinners are onboard. We now have the UK Government, the Irish Coalition Government, Labour, the SDLP, the Alliance, the DUP and Sinn Fein all on the same side. A full house.0 -
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And if they empty the trash they definitely have.Andy_JS said:
Definitely. I suppose it's similar to the situation where people who don't understand computers believe that by putting documents in the trash/wastebasket they really have deleted them from the computer's hard drive.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
For years I used to find supposedly redacted data on official precinct election canvass reports, for precincts with very small number of ballots, where all the votes cast in a particular race were for the same candidate.Andy_JS said:From earlier today.
https://twitter.com/lijukic/status/1355164987212390402
For some elections in some counties (which shall remain nameless) the numbers would be redacted on pdfs, however if you copied the data and uploaded it into a spreadsheet, the redacted numbers would appear.
Reckon there are many more examples out there in the wide, wild world of IT.1 -
There's more of a local 'he said she said' spat with the UK and Scottish Governments over what figures should be released regarding numbers of vaccine doses allocated to Scotland. That argument seems to be getting a good deal more coverage than the wider situation of the vaccine wars.Fysics_Teacher said:
And to be fair I'm not sure what either could say that would help at this stage.Theuniondivvie said:
BJ statesman-like reticencePulpstar said:Sturgeon's been very quiet this evening.
Sturgeon's been very quiet
Not that that usually stops most politicians.
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UUP leader Steve Aiken said Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis should be embarrassed. “The EU is unilaterally invoking Article 16 to protect its own interests and it’s about time the UK government did the same instead of being lead actors in a ridiculous charade that there is no border in the Irish Sea and that Article 16 can’t be invoked.”kle4 said:
(Presumably backing the DUP position of using Article 16 to resolve supermarket delivery issues, which the UK Government still declines to do.)0 -
In theory the parliament can no confidence them on a 2 3rds majority. In theory.SandyRentool said:0 -
Why not a simple majority?IshmaelZ said:
In theory the parliament can no confidence them on a 2 3rds majority. In theory.SandyRentool said:0 -
The eu parliament has always done what they are toldIshmaelZ said:
In theory the parliament can no confidence them on a 2 3rds majority. In theory.SandyRentool said:0 -
The Lib Dems are both very concerned.kle4 said:2 -
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Now you know you have hit my soft spot there don't you. I am forced to agree with you even though it undermines my point.DougSeal said:
He's still more valuable than someone repeatedly posting, to the exclusion of all else, that there won't be a new Scottish Referendum because the Tories won't permit it. Not that anyone would I am sure.Richard_Tyndall said:
She also makes a large number of posts which are her own words, opinions and interpretations. Scott does none of these things. He just posts tweets and articles he thinks will help his cause - often it seems without even reading them as the body of articles often contradicts what he thinks is said in the headline.Mexicanpete said:
There you go again, and thoseRichard_Tyndall said:
There are plenty of anti Johnson and anti Brexit posters on here who are excellent contributors and their leaving would be a real loss to the site.Mexicanpete said:
The hostility on here addressed to you by your fellow Conservatives, just because you consider Brexit and PM Johnson to both be monumental errors, is becoming quite unpleasant.Scott_xP said:
We seem to be losing a few anti-Johnson, anti-Brexit posters, which is a shame. I can see why. If the only acceptable opinion becomes pro-Johnson and anti -EU the site is diminished, and it has always been a great site.
Then there is Scott n paste....
people who have "liked" your post. To be fair you were not someone I had in mind when I posted.
Carlotta re-posts anti, EU, pro-Union, pro-Conservative tweets and articles throughout the days. I have no problem with either re-posting, In fact it saves me researching myself. Nonetheless the reaction to each poster is less than even handed.
There is a world of difference between Scott and Carlotta.
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Floater said:
Wow - just wow
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55860238
A Louisiana cemetery has apologised after refusing to bury a local black police officer because of a decades-old provision allowing only white people.
The Oaklin Springs Cemetery board met on Thursday to change its sales contract after an outcry over the "white human beings" rule....
Cemetery board president H Creig Vizena called the old policy "horrible" and "stupid" telling US media on Thursday that none of the board members had noticed the provision before.
Why the f*ck did they not meet to change their rules once it was brought to their attention before refusing the burial? Ah
The cemetery worker who had denied the plot was Mr Vizena's 81-year-old aunt, who has been "relieved of her duties," he told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution0 -
Scott is ludicrously europhile, and is a relentless cut n paster, but I say: let a thousand flowers bloom. You can just skim over his comments, so who cares. And he quite often pastes some interesting info,Richard_Tyndall said:
She also makes a large number of posts which are her own words, opinions and interpretations. Scott does none of these things. He just posts tweets and articles he thinks will help his cause - often it seems without even reading them as the body of articles often contradicts what he thinks is said in the headline.Mexicanpete said:
There you go again, and thoseRichard_Tyndall said:
There are plenty of anti Johnson and anti Brexit posters on here who are excellent contributors and their leaving would be a real loss to the site.Mexicanpete said:
The hostility on here addressed to you by your fellow Conservatives, just because you consider Brexit and PM Johnson to both be monumental errors, is becoming quite unpleasant.Scott_xP said:
We seem to be losing a few anti-Johnson, anti-Brexit posters, which is a shame. I can see why. If the only acceptable opinion becomes pro-Johnson and anti -EU the site is diminished, and it has always been a great site.
Then there is Scott n paste....
people who have "liked" your post. To be fair you were not someone I had in mind when I posted.
Carlotta re-posts anti, EU, pro-Union, pro-Conservative tweets and articles throughout the days. I have no problem with either re-posting, In fact it saves me researching myself. Nonetheless the reaction to each poster is less than even handed.
There is a world of difference between Scott and Carlotta.
I agree with @theuniondivvie, who I am sure will be delighted - unless someone is outright racist, violently threatening, or - heaven forbid - wildly and abusively insulting, let them be. That is the joy of this site, it has so many voices, meaning it is still the best on the web for reading informed UK news and opinions
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I've been reading the Spiegel piece on von der Leyen's long history of making a fucking mess and then failing upwards, leaving someone else to wield the pooper scooper behind her.CarlottaVance said:
Her problem this time around is that, as President of the European Commission, there's nowhere left to fail upwards to.
But yes, more likely than not the Brit blaming will get her through the immediate crisis, the vaccines will start to turn up in greater quantities and she'll survive.0 -
Don't. Heeding those exact words is something I have regretted for about 2 decades now...Richard_Tyndall said:
Now you know you have hit my soft spot there don't you. I am forced to agree with you even though it undermines my point.DougSeal said:
He's still more valuable than someone repeatedly posting, to the exclusion of all else, that there won't be a new Scottish Referendum because the Tories won't permit it. Not that anyone would I am sure.Richard_Tyndall said:
She also makes a large number of posts which are her own words, opinions and interpretations. Scott does none of these things. He just posts tweets and articles he thinks will help his cause - often it seems without even reading them as the body of articles often contradicts what he thinks is said in the headline.Mexicanpete said:
There you go again, and thoseRichard_Tyndall said:
There are plenty of anti Johnson and anti Brexit posters on here who are excellent contributors and their leaving would be a real loss to the site.Mexicanpete said:
The hostility on here addressed to you by your fellow Conservatives, just because you consider Brexit and PM Johnson to both be monumental errors, is becoming quite unpleasant.Scott_xP said:
We seem to be losing a few anti-Johnson, anti-Brexit posters, which is a shame. I can see why. If the only acceptable opinion becomes pro-Johnson and anti -EU the site is diminished, and it has always been a great site.
Then there is Scott n paste....
people who have "liked" your post. To be fair you were not someone I had in mind when I posted.
Carlotta re-posts anti, EU, pro-Union, pro-Conservative tweets and articles throughout the days. I have no problem with either re-posting, In fact it saves me researching myself. Nonetheless the reaction to each poster is less than even handed.
There is a world of difference between Scott and Carlotta.
You should be a lawyer2 -
Because that might be achievableRobD said:
Why not a simple majority?IshmaelZ said:
In theory the parliament can no confidence them on a 2 3rds majority. In theory.SandyRentool said:0 -
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Failing to notify one of their members, Ireland, and failing to follow treaty obligations to notify the UK was a "mistake" and "oversight"?Scott_xP said:4 -
I enjoy it. The NZ accent can be a bit much, however.Fysics_Teacher said:Completely off topic (although linked to a bit of a discussion earlier) I have been watching "The Brokenwood Mysteries", a sort of New Zeeland version of Midsomer Murders. Would recommend to those who like their crime dramas not too gritty (and don't mind a steady stream of Country and Western on the soundtrack).
Also, I keep referring to it as the "Brokenwind Mysteries". Which soon stops being amusing.2 -
HhahahahahahahCarlottaVance said:
ahahahahahah
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
This is like watching a world renowned opera singer publicly shit herself at the Royal Albert Hall as she attempts the Holle Roche aria from the Magic Flute, while inexplicably wearing nothing but a peep-hole bra2 -
Now the eu has declared war we should absolutely reciprocate....funnel the chemicals for pfizer to other plants. People get the government they deserve. The EU nations elected these half witsDougSeal said:
Don't. Heeding those exact words is something I have regretted for about 2 decades now...Richard_Tyndall said:
Now you know you have hit my soft spot there don't you. I am forced to agree with you even though it undermines my point.DougSeal said:
He's still more valuable than someone repeatedly posting, to the exclusion of all else, that there won't be a new Scottish Referendum because the Tories won't permit it. Not that anyone would I am sure.Richard_Tyndall said:
She also makes a large number of posts which are her own words, opinions and interpretations. Scott does none of these things. He just posts tweets and articles he thinks will help his cause - often it seems without even reading them as the body of articles often contradicts what he thinks is said in the headline.Mexicanpete said:
There you go again, and thoseRichard_Tyndall said:
There are plenty of anti Johnson and anti Brexit posters on here who are excellent contributors and their leaving would be a real loss to the site.Mexicanpete said:
The hostility on here addressed to you by your fellow Conservatives, just because you consider Brexit and PM Johnson to both be monumental errors, is becoming quite unpleasant.Scott_xP said:
We seem to be losing a few anti-Johnson, anti-Brexit posters, which is a shame. I can see why. If the only acceptable opinion becomes pro-Johnson and anti -EU the site is diminished, and it has always been a great site.
Then there is Scott n paste....
people who have "liked" your post. To be fair you were not someone I had in mind when I posted.
Carlotta re-posts anti, EU, pro-Union, pro-Conservative tweets and articles throughout the days. I have no problem with either re-posting, In fact it saves me researching myself. Nonetheless the reaction to each poster is less than even handed.
There is a world of difference between Scott and Carlotta.
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About believable as Boris just having some computer lessons off that American lady....Scott_xP said:1 -
Looks as if the EU have now withdrawn the Article 16 invocation.
This is a terrible end to a terrible week for the EU. Un-bel-ievable.1 -
The Dutch really aren't even trying...CarlottaVance said:Better showing from Italy:
https://www.politico.eu/coronavirus-in-europe/
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Okay - not quite sure what that has to do with my career choices but your strong views are noted.Pagan2 said:
Now the eu has declared war we should absolutely reciprocate....funnel the chemicals for pfizer to other plants. People get the government they deserve. The EU nations elected these half witsDougSeal said:
Don't. Heeding those exact words is something I have regretted for about 2 decades now...Richard_Tyndall said:
Now you know you have hit my soft spot there don't you. I am forced to agree with you even though it undermines my point.DougSeal said:
He's still more valuable than someone repeatedly posting, to the exclusion of all else, that there won't be a new Scottish Referendum because the Tories won't permit it. Not that anyone would I am sure.Richard_Tyndall said:
She also makes a large number of posts which are her own words, opinions and interpretations. Scott does none of these things. He just posts tweets and articles he thinks will help his cause - often it seems without even reading them as the body of articles often contradicts what he thinks is said in the headline.Mexicanpete said:
There you go again, and thoseRichard_Tyndall said:
There are plenty of anti Johnson and anti Brexit posters on here who are excellent contributors and their leaving would be a real loss to the site.Mexicanpete said:
The hostility on here addressed to you by your fellow Conservatives, just because you consider Brexit and PM Johnson to both be monumental errors, is becoming quite unpleasant.Scott_xP said:
We seem to be losing a few anti-Johnson, anti-Brexit posters, which is a shame. I can see why. If the only acceptable opinion becomes pro-Johnson and anti -EU the site is diminished, and it has always been a great site.
Then there is Scott n paste....
people who have "liked" your post. To be fair you were not someone I had in mind when I posted.
Carlotta re-posts anti, EU, pro-Union, pro-Conservative tweets and articles throughout the days. I have no problem with either re-posting, In fact it saves me researching myself. Nonetheless the reaction to each poster is less than even handed.
There is a world of difference between Scott and Carlotta.
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Arlene Foster would NOT be my first choice on just about any ballot.Richard_Tyndall said:
To be honest she must be the only person in the world who didn't realise that.williamglenn said:
However, think that she's proven herself to be a pretty savvy political leader. AND in a league that is WAY more cutthroat than (even) the EU.
Her statement in this instance is just about perfect; just enough of a dig at the EU for her own base, but not TOO much, making it easy for Dublin, UPP, Alliance, SDLP AND Sinn Fein to stand on the same basic ground.3 -
Basically pretty much everything Brexiteers said has been proven true tonight.
Their invocation of Article 16 is astonishing. Absolutely astonishing.
I bet Joe Biden who favours them isn't too amused ...2 -
Have they withdrawn the threat of article 122?Mysticrose said:Looks as if the EU have now withdrawn the Article 16 invocation.
This is a terrible end to a terrible week for the EU. Un-bel-ievable.0 -
Totally convincing face saving explanation. Just a mistake. Someone drafted the regulation, various people approved it, announced it, put it on the internet and so on, all without proper approval from appropriate decision makers.Scott_xP said:
Actually, since they didn't even bother to inform the PM of Ireland about it, that might actually be semi plausible.
We've all been hotheads and said things we regret, right? Actually that's only been the EU this week, but nevermind.1 -
They perhaps need to sort out their scheme of delegations...williamglenn said:
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blinks when did I mention your career choices?DougSeal said:
Okay - not quite sure what that has to do with my career choices but your strong views are noted.Pagan2 said:
Now the eu has declared war we should absolutely reciprocate....funnel the chemicals for pfizer to other plants. People get the government they deserve. The EU nations elected these half witsDougSeal said:
Don't. Heeding those exact words is something I have regretted for about 2 decades now...Richard_Tyndall said:
Now you know you have hit my soft spot there don't you. I am forced to agree with you even though it undermines my point.DougSeal said:
He's still more valuable than someone repeatedly posting, to the exclusion of all else, that there won't be a new Scottish Referendum because the Tories won't permit it. Not that anyone would I am sure.Richard_Tyndall said:
She also makes a large number of posts which are her own words, opinions and interpretations. Scott does none of these things. He just posts tweets and articles he thinks will help his cause - often it seems without even reading them as the body of articles often contradicts what he thinks is said in the headline.Mexicanpete said:
There you go again, and thoseRichard_Tyndall said:
There are plenty of anti Johnson and anti Brexit posters on here who are excellent contributors and their leaving would be a real loss to the site.Mexicanpete said:
The hostility on here addressed to you by your fellow Conservatives, just because you consider Brexit and PM Johnson to both be monumental errors, is becoming quite unpleasant.Scott_xP said:
We seem to be losing a few anti-Johnson, anti-Brexit posters, which is a shame. I can see why. If the only acceptable opinion becomes pro-Johnson and anti -EU the site is diminished, and it has always been a great site.
Then there is Scott n paste....
people who have "liked" your post. To be fair you were not someone I had in mind when I posted.
Carlotta re-posts anti, EU, pro-Union, pro-Conservative tweets and articles throughout the days. I have no problem with either re-posting, In fact it saves me researching myself. Nonetheless the reaction to each poster is less than even handed.
There is a world of difference between Scott and Carlotta.
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Settling down to watch
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-gravy-train/on-demand/7476-001
Alexi Style as a demented plum salesman
Ernst Stavro Blofeld (very young) as a hapless Eurocrat
Hmmmmmmmm.......0 -
Likely to be surprisingly close. Rejoin on 48% before the campaign starts...rottenborough said:
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Boris Johnson says EU must "urgently clarify its intentions" after bloc introduces export controls on vaccines to Northern Ireland1
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O/T
26th July 1990 on BBC 4 / Top of the Pops.0 -
https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1355258434552274946
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That was before the EU commission went publicly insane.Foxy said:
Likely to be surprisingly close. Rejoin on 48% before the campaign starts...rottenborough said:
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So it can be triggered by "someone who does not understand its implications"?williamglenn said:
That's reassuring.....
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You think they might be Leyen about it?kle4 said:
Totally convincing face saving explanation. Just a mistake. Someone drafted the regulation, various people approved it, announced it, put it on the internet and so on, all without proper approval from appropriate decision makers.Scott_xP said:
Actually, since they didn't even bother to inform the PM of Ireland about it, that might actually be semi plausible.
We've all been hotheads and said things we regret, right? Actually that's only been the EU this week, but nevermind.5 -
Lol, having read the Spiegel piece on UvDL I half expected a junior minion to take the blame for this.williamglenn said:
Still, even with this stupid A16 stuff resolved the underlying export ban mechanism will come back and that's still a threat to vaccine supplies of the UK, US, Canada and Australia.
The western alliance is fracturing before our very eyes.1 -
That's the kind of thing you could have imagined Trump saying after pressing the nuclear button and vaporizing Tehranwilliamglenn said:0 -
Statement goes onFrancisUrquhart said:Boris Johnson says EU must "urgently clarify its intentions" after bloc introduces export controls on vaccines to Northern Ireland
The U.K. has legally-binding agreements with vaccine suppliers and it would not expect the EU, as a friend and ally, to do anything to disrupt the fulfilment of these contracts.
"as a friend and ally" - I can see a threat in that1 -
I find it very unlikely that people would be sacked by the EU Commission, but I do find it hard to see how someone, somewhere, could not be fired for 'inadvertently' triggering a major political and policy decision, which drew immediate condemnation from allies and the head of government in the EU Member staet most affect.alex_ said:
It's very nearly a worse explanation than doing it intentionally. It's the 'Im stupid, not malevolent' style of explanation levlled up to a massive organisation.2 -
Yep. If we had a vote in a week's time once the tabloids had gone to town on this the vote would be 60:40 or more in favour of Brexit. Probably 70:30.RobD said:
That was before the EU commission went publicly insane.Foxy said:
Likely to be surprisingly close. Rejoin on 48% before the campaign starts...rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1355171670688980993?s=19
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Always a danger of nuclear options.CarlottaVance said:
So it can be triggered by "someone who does not understand its implications"?williamglenn said:
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Well they clearly didn't understand the contract they signed with AZN....as they publish as if they have killer evidence and even very pro-European lawyers have been saying it doesn't say what you keep claiming.CarlottaVance said:
So it can be triggered by "someone who does not understand its implications"?williamglenn said:
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One thing that we know about Brexit is that minds are not easily changed.RobD said:
That was before the EU commission went publicly insane.Foxy said:
Likely to be surprisingly close. Rejoin on 48% before the campaign starts...rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1355171670688980993?s=190 -
Yeah Ursula.CarlottaVance said:
So it can be triggered by "someone who does not understand its implications"?williamglenn said:
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Backpedalling on the use of Article 16 to stop the Evil Brits from getting their hands on EU vaccines just leaves the small matter of our exclusion from the export ban exemption list.Mysticrose said:Basically pretty much everything Brexiteers said has been proven true tonight.
Their invocation of Article 16 is astonishing. Absolutely astonishing.
I bet Joe Biden who favours them isn't too amused ...
The whole of Europe except Russia, Turkey and the UK is on that list. But no particular countries were targeted. Oh no. Definitely not.
Once again, Syria, Libya, Belarus: exempt. US, UK, Canada: threatened.
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Boris has judged this to perfection to be fairFloater said:
Statement goes onFrancisUrquhart said:Boris Johnson says EU must "urgently clarify its intentions" after bloc introduces export controls on vaccines to Northern Ireland
The U.K. has legally-binding agreements with vaccine suppliers and it would not expect the EU, as a friend and ally, to do anything to disrupt the fulfilment of these contracts.
"as a friend and ally" - I can see a threat in that3 -
Boris has judged this to perfection to be fairFloater said:
Statement goes onFrancisUrquhart said:Boris Johnson says EU must "urgently clarify its intentions" after bloc introduces export controls on vaccines to Northern Ireland
The U.K. has legally-binding agreements with vaccine suppliers and it would not expect the EU, as a friend and ally, to do anything to disrupt the fulfilment of these contracts.
"as a friend and ally" - I can see a threat in that2 -
Expel eu nations from nato, yes russia will take them over but at least they will be vaccinated with sputnikalex_ said:
Always a danger of nuclear options.CarlottaVance said:
So it can be triggered by "someone who does not understand its implications"?williamglenn said:
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I agree absolutely - our Government has been remarkably sure footed over thisBig_G_NorthWales said:
Boris has judged this to perfection to be fairFloater said:
Statement goes onFrancisUrquhart said:Boris Johnson says EU must "urgently clarify its intentions" after bloc introduces export controls on vaccines to Northern Ireland
The U.K. has legally-binding agreements with vaccine suppliers and it would not expect the EU, as a friend and ally, to do anything to disrupt the fulfilment of these contracts.
"as a friend and ally" - I can see a threat in that4 -
The EU...willing to throw your Granny under the bus because they f##ked up...good luck trying to get much past that one during a campaign.Foxy said:
One thing that we know about Brexit is that minds are not easily changed.RobD said:
That was before the EU commission went publicly insane.Foxy said:
Likely to be surprisingly close. Rejoin on 48% before the campaign starts...rottenborough said:
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That's got to be the best anti-EU recruitment this country has had since Merkel decided to let all and sundry enter Europe.Black_Rook said:
Backpedalling on the use of Article 16 to stop the Evil Brits from getting their hands on EU vaccines just leaves the small matter of our exclusion from the export ban exemption list.Mysticrose said:Basically pretty much everything Brexiteers said has been proven true tonight.
Their invocation of Article 16 is astonishing. Absolutely astonishing.
I bet Joe Biden who favours them isn't too amused ...
The whole of Europe except Russia, Turkey and the UK is on that list. But no particular countries were targeted. Oh no. Definitely not.
Once again, Syria, Libya, Belarus: exempt. US, UK, Canada: threatened.
The EU is not our friend.1 -
I feel a bit sorry for the European Commission now - without condoning their behaviour for a second. It's an absolutely shit situation.
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The BBC Six O'Clock News didn't really talk about the implications for Ireland so I thought it would be interesting to see what they said at 10pm. Looks like they might be able to pretend it never happened!0
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Plenty on evidence on here they are changing rapidlyFoxy said:
One thing that we know about Brexit is that minds are not easily changed.RobD said:
That was before the EU commission went publicly insane.Foxy said:
Likely to be surprisingly close. Rejoin on 48% before the campaign starts...rottenborough said:
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I suspect Joe Biden may step in soon. And I'm no longer sure it will be on the EU's side.
Anyone who rocks Ireland (apart from U2, obvs) is in deep shit with Joe.0 -
As the UK and EU diverge, that Rejoin will fall away. Also, there is almost zero appetite for another divisive referendum for the foreseeable future. All my Remainer friends, even the most ardent, have no appetite to revive the argument. They have accepted. They are sad. They regret it, But they accept it. I literally don't know anyone who wants "another vote"Foxy said:
Likely to be surprisingly close. Rejoin on 48% before the campaign starts...rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1355171670688980993?s=19
We are out. And we will stay out probably forever.
What is possible is us rejoining a version of the Single Market, in a few years. But both sides will have to give ground, and they will, as this will be mutually beneficial0 -
What a waste of time, Polling on the next UK election at the moment is pretty meaningless and that will be held little more than 3 years from now. There won't be another EU Referendum in my lifetime, or at least not one until I am in a the highest priority group for the Covid-54 vaccine.RobD said:
That was before the EU commission went publicly insane.Foxy said:
Likely to be surprisingly close. Rejoin on 48% before the campaign starts...rottenborough said:
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Has anyone seen @AlastairMeeks so we can get an explanation on why the EU are right about invoking Article 16 and this is actually the UK Government's fault?4
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MrEd said:
Has anyone seen @AlastairMeeks so we can get an explanation on why the EU are right about invoking Article 16 and this is actually the UK Government's fault?
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I can't remember what I had in mind when I wrote that particular rule. The precedent of US impeachment perhaps.RobD said:
Why not a simple majority?IshmaelZ said:
In theory the parliament can no confidence them on a 2 3rds majority. In theory.SandyRentool said:0
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