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Should be limited to undertakers and grave diggers if the Gov't wants to take it seriously.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is for funerals, cremations, and the like.Pulpstar said:Religous staff ??!?!
You've got to be shitting me.0 -
Silly comment. You might not want any religion at your funeral but most do, I believe.Pulpstar said:
Should be limited to undertakers and grave diggers if the Gov't wants to take it seriously.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is for funerals, cremations, and the like.Pulpstar said:Religous staff ??!?!
You've got to be shitting me.0 -
I only see the 'front of house' staff in Cineworld but I get the very strong impression that they are all temporary and/or casual.whunter said:
No one in the private sector would be entirely safe from the ensuing witch hunt.MaxPB said:Someone needs to make a browser extension with puts up a huge warning on websites of companies that have fired all of their staff like Britannia hotels and Cineworld. Fuck those companies.
Personally, I would let businesses make their own decisions; concede that the state needs to do more in terms of providing a social safety net, particularly in times of national emergency, tax high earners accordingly.
Clearly there must be permanent staff.0 -
Doing a lockdown as a process rather than one singular event might make some sense if the additional time is utilised for sensible preperations rather than mere prevaricating.numbertwelve said:
I don’t think Boris is doing that bad a job in the circumstances but what I would say is it does feel he’s being buffeted by events a little.matthiasfromhamburg said:
It's high time for him to ditch the stiff-upper-lip-kabuki and get real. He needs to take a step forward.Floater said:Boris Johnson is expected to announce the shut down of London today with bars, clubs, pubs, restaurants and cafes all ordered to close.
Shops considered ‘non-essential’ such as clothing stores are also likely to be forced to shut their doors in an attempt to curb coronavirus in the capital.
Well-placed sources said the Prime Minister would make the announcement at his afternoon press conference. London’s mayor Sadiq Khan is expected to make a separate statement.
No school closures turns into school closures 24 hours later. No London lockdown (possibly) turns into London lockdown etc.
If these things are coming down the road in a days time, I don’t really see the reason why it hasn’t just been done. Not sure 24 hours makes a huge amount of difference.
This, of course, is not a Brexit related comment in any fashion.0 -
It's not about what anyone "wants" at this point in time.Benpointer said:
Silly comment. You might not want any religion at your funeral but most do, I believe.Pulpstar said:
Should be limited to undertakers and grave diggers if the Gov't wants to take it seriously.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is for funerals, cremations, and the like.Pulpstar said:Religous staff ??!?!
You've got to be shitting me.0 -
Do you know that your "new cases" is for a 24 hour period, or might it have increased again by the end of today?Benpointer said:
Fewer new cases than the previous two days - restrictions having an effect?Andy_JS said:Germany: an extra 2,456 cases today and 4 deaths. Takes the totals to 17,776 and 48.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/0 -
Even now with Italy you see idiots who should know better saying stuff like that. If it doesn't affect one of their loved ones they don't care - and if it does then it will be the government's fault no doubt.FeersumEnjineeya said:
The answer to that would have been to simply point at Italy.Philip_Thompson said:
Problem is if the social distancing or a lockdown succeeds then many will look back and say "all that and look how few died, what was the point in that for a flu?" without getting the point that if we hadn't had the distancing etc not happened.Paristonda said:
Yes that is one of the big problems. In France and Italy there are still many people ignoring lockdown or not taking it seriously enough. The army will almost certainly be called in to enforce measures more strictly. Hopefully we all learn for next time, complacency on the parts of Western governments and western citizens.FrancisUrquhart said:
The question is would the western public accepted a total lockdown immediately. Asia has gone through the likes of SARS, they get it.Paristonda said:
A big lockdown now is the only way to deal with being caught off guard like this. the West was completely unprepared. You will cause many many more needless deaths without these measures. Then, once the peak has passed, restrictions can slowly be lifted, social distancing maintained but not full lockdown, cases will rise but slower, people will be aware of the dangers, flights will be monitored and screened, and the healthcare system won't be submerged. You buy time for various drugs to manage symptoms, buy time to ramp up production of testing kits, protective gear, beds and ventilators. A vaccine in the longer term too.Andy_JS said:It's obvious that one big lockdown isn't going to work because when you release people the virus will still be around. That's why the herd immunity idea was proposed in the first place. Also the 1918 flu graph shows that the worst peak was the second one.
Here, despite wall to wall coverage, large parts of society don't seem to think this is serious. I am not sure they would have agreed to go into lockdown when the very first few cases appeared and the dominant view was it is just flu.0 -
My wife is ranting and raving.... "Annabelle is still going to school, but her dad could work from home, it's only mum that is the nurse etc etc."twistedfirestopper3 said:From what I gather schools are hardly "closing". It's more of a paper exercise. Everyone seems to be a key worker.
Our school of 240 pupils has 47 turning up next Monday. So 20%.0 -
Yes: D-minor.Fysics_Teacher said:Are musicians key workers?
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Are they still taking money from online sales? Despite the latter closing?MaxPB said:Someone needs to make a browser extension with puts up a huge warning on websites of companies that have fired all of their staff like Britannia hotels and Cineworld. Fuck those companies.
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Germany is catching more asymptomatic cases, so it's possible there will be a smaller time gap between the real infection peak, and when it shows up in statistics.Benpointer said:
Fewer new cases than the previous two days - restrictions having an effect?Andy_JS said:Germany: an extra 2,456 cases today and 4 deaths. Takes the totals to 17,776 and 48.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/0 -
Strange we haven't heard much from patel4witham recentlyTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Due to a miscommunication, the proverbial dockside hookers will still be operating - they are, of course, quay workers...Fysics_Teacher said:Are musicians key workers?
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Cineworld are planning on taking my next Cineworld unlimited payment at the start of April, but after that the monthly payments will be paused until the cinemas reopen.TheValiant said:
Are they still taking money from online sales? Despite the latter closing?MaxPB said:Someone needs to make a browser extension with puts up a huge warning on websites of companies that have fired all of their staff like Britannia hotels and Cineworld. Fuck those companies.
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I expect that will be dropped soon enough given how immigration will have dropped to zero.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I thought he was talking about travel yesterdayRochdalePioneers said:
So the direct opposite of what he said yesterday.Floater said:Boris Johnson is expected to announce the shut down of London today with bars, clubs, pubs, restaurants and cafes all ordered to close.
Shops considered ‘non-essential’ such as clothing stores are also likely to be forced to shut their doors in an attempt to curb coronavirus in the capital.
Well-placed sources said the Prime Minister would make the announcement at his afternoon press conference. London’s mayor Sadiq Khan is expected to make a separate statement.0 -
Maybe, if that's today's final figure, or maybe labs running out of the chemicals needed to do tests. It would be useful to have testing numbers.Benpointer said:
Fewer new cases than the previous two days - restrictions having an effect?Andy_JS said:Germany: an extra 2,456 cases today and 4 deaths. Takes the totals to 17,776 and 48.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
BTW the worldometers figure for numbers in serious or critical condition in Germany is 2. This is obviously wrong, there's at least 5 people in intensive care just in Cologne.0 -
My impression is you'll be bloody lucky to get anything describable as a funeral, never mind the religion.Benpointer said:
Silly comment. You might not want any religion at your funeral but most do, I believe.Pulpstar said:
Should be limited to undertakers and grave diggers if the Gov't wants to take it seriously.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is for funerals, cremations, and the like.Pulpstar said:Religous staff ??!?!
You've got to be shitting me.1 -
Ah no, very good point - I don't know that. It's not really my new cases, rather Worldometer's.eristdoof said:
Do you know that your "new cases" is for a 24 hour period, or might it have increased again by the end of today?Benpointer said:
Fewer new cases than the previous two days - restrictions having an effect?Andy_JS said:Germany: an extra 2,456 cases today and 4 deaths. Takes the totals to 17,776 and 48.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Two more senators made hefty stock sales before the coronavirus pandemic tanked global markets, records revealed as two other lawmakers who dumped millions in shares faced mounting calls to resign.
Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Jim Inhofe sold as much as $6.4 million worth of stock in the weeks before panic about the coronavirus sparked a worldwide selloff, according to disclosure filings first reported by the New York Times.
The additional revelations came amid widespread outrage toward GOP Sens. Richard Burr and Kelly Loeffler, who reportedly sold shares after getting briefings on the coronavirus threat.0 -
8400 UK tests yesterday, getting there.0
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I can no longer get TV on the BBC website. Is this a general situation?-1
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To go back to the original point from @Pulpstar - religious workers are treated as key, but so are social workers and charity workers... I suspect religious workers could qualify under either of those headings.IshmaelZ said:
My impression is you'll be bloody lucky to get anything describable as a funeral, never mind the religion.Benpointer said:
Silly comment. You might not want any religion at your funeral but most do, I believe.Pulpstar said:
Should be limited to undertakers and grave diggers if the Gov't wants to take it seriously.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is for funerals, cremations, and the like.Pulpstar said:Religous staff ??!?!
You've got to be shitting me.0 -
3 Rs, 1DFloater said:Two more senators made hefty stock sales before the coronavirus pandemic tanked global markets, records revealed as two other lawmakers who dumped millions in shares faced mounting calls to resign.
Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Jim Inhofe sold as much as $6.4 million worth of stock in the weeks before panic about the coronavirus sparked a worldwide selloff, according to disclosure filings first reported by the New York Times.
The additional revelations came amid widespread outrage toward GOP Sens. Richard Burr and Kelly Loeffler, who reportedly sold shares after getting briefings on the coronavirus threat.
Ms Finestein was very foolish0 -
First I find out Netflix and YouTube are restricting, now this...
Television channels are scrambling to commission new programmes suitable for a stay-at-home audience, with Channel 4 today announcing that it has commissioned Jamie Oliver to present a daily show providing tips for cooking simple recipes in a crisis.
The programme, entitled Keep Cooking and Carry On, will be broadcast every weekday next week at 5.30pm – with Oliver pledging to teach people “how to make the most from kitchen staples and how to be creative with whatever ingredients they’ve got at home”.0 -
Link?Andrew said:8400 UK tests yesterday, getting there.
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A major London hospital has declared a “critical incident” due to a surge in patients with coronavirus, HSJ reports.
In a message to staff, Northwick Park Hospital in Harrow said it has no critical care capacity left and was contacting neighbouring hospitals to discuss transferring patients who need critical care to other sites.
The message, sent last night, said:
I am writing to let you know that we have this evening declared a ‘critical incident’ in relation to our critical care capacity at Northwick Park Hospital. This is due to an increasing number of patients with Covid-19.
This means that we currently do not have enough space for patients requiring critical care.
As part of our system resilience plans, we have contacted our partners in the North West London sector this evening to assist with the safe transfer of patients off of the Northwick Park site.0 -
I've read her 'sorry' statement to the House, basically because I was directed to it after writing her, as my MP, saying how badly I thought thew Windrush people had been treated,whunter said:
Strange we haven't heard much from patel4witham recentlyTheScreamingEagles said:
To my mind the statement is much, much more than a simple "sorry'; there's evidence of a new broom at the Home Office, alt least on this. The full statement is on the gov.uk site under "Windrush Lessons Learned Review". It seems a very comprehensive statement, although I doubt she should have been as generous as she was to her predecessors, especially the one in the Coalition.0 -
Should have been called World of Pasta.FrancisUrquhart said:First I find out Netflix and YouTube are restricting, now this...
Television channels are scrambling to commission new programmes suitable for a stay-at-home audience, with Channel 4 today announcing that it has commissioned Jamie Oliver to present a daily show providing tips for cooking simple recipes in a crisis.
The programme, entitled Keep Cooking and Carry On, will be broadcast every weekday next week at 5.30pm – with Oliver pledging to teach people “how to make the most from kitchen staples and how to be creative with whatever ingredients they’ve got at home”.0 -
It's a tough one.numbertwelve said:
I don’t think Boris is doing that bad a job in the circumstances but what I would say is it does feel he’s being buffeted by events a little.matthiasfromhamburg said:
It's high time for him to ditch the stiff-upper-lip-kabuki and get real. He needs to take a step forward.Floater said:Boris Johnson is expected to announce the shut down of London today with bars, clubs, pubs, restaurants and cafes all ordered to close.
Shops considered ‘non-essential’ such as clothing stores are also likely to be forced to shut their doors in an attempt to curb coronavirus in the capital.
Well-placed sources said the Prime Minister would make the announcement at his afternoon press conference. London’s mayor Sadiq Khan is expected to make a separate statement.
No school closures turns into school closures 24 hours later. No London lockdown (possibly) turns into London lockdown etc.
If these things are coming down the road in a days time, I don’t really see the reason why it hasn’t just been done. Not sure 24 hours makes a huge amount of difference.
Imagine if the government, ten days ago, had implemented a complete shut down of the UK. It would been met with howls of anguish, and been regarded as disproportionate, etc.
Now, imagine it had announced it was going to implement one... Well, then you'd have had Italian chaos.
There are no easy answers. I think Boris and Co deserve a B for their work. They probably could have amoved slightly quicker this week, but overall they've dealt with a fluid situation reasonably well.3 -
With all this going on I am still getting spoofed number silent calls, presumably for some scam or other. The mentality of some people is hard to fathom at times.0
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And.... is payment in arrears or in advance?TheScreamingEagles said:
Cineworld are planning on taking my next Cineworld unlimited payment at the start of April, but after that the monthly payments will be paused until the cinemas reopen.TheValiant said:
Are they still taking money from online sales? Despite the latter closing?MaxPB said:Someone needs to make a browser extension with puts up a huge warning on websites of companies that have fired all of their staff like Britannia hotels and Cineworld. Fuck those companies.
Whilst they need support, and even their terms and conditions say so, if they take payment then they need to provide a service. What are they going to provide?0 -
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:
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This looks worrying. According to the BBC:
"...the number of confirmed cases across Africa has increased to around 850 - almost six times the number recorded just a week ago."
If confirmed, a six-fold increase in a week doesn't bode well for Africa.0 -
And so it beginsFloater said:A major London hospital has declared a “critical incident” due to a surge in patients with coronavirus, HSJ reports.
In a message to staff, Northwick Park Hospital in Harrow said it has no critical care capacity left and was contacting neighbouring hospitals to discuss transferring patients who need critical care to other sites.
The message, sent last night, said:
I am writing to let you know that we have this evening declared a ‘critical incident’ in relation to our critical care capacity at Northwick Park Hospital. This is due to an increasing number of patients with Covid-19.
This means that we currently do not have enough space for patients requiring critical care.
As part of our system resilience plans, we have contacted our partners in the North West London sector this evening to assist with the safe transfer of patients off of the Northwick Park site.0 -
Just the gov announcements day to day:FrancisUrquhart said:
Link?
https://twitter.com/search?q=a total of have been tested from:DHSCgovuk&src=typed_query&f=live
Although now I look at it, 64621 was at 1pm yesterday, 56221 the day before was a 9am figure. Maybe that boosted it.
Supposedly they are going for 10k/day now, then try boost it to 25k.
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Good for her.OldKingCole said:
I've read her 'sorry' statement to the House, basically because I was directed to it after writing her, as my MP, saying how badly I thought thew Windrush people had been treated,whunter said:
Strange we haven't heard much from patel4witham recentlyTheScreamingEagles said:
To my mind the statement is much, much more than a simple "sorry'; there's evidence of a new broom at the Home Office, alt least on this. The full statement is on the gov.uk site under "Windrush Lessons Learned Review". It seems a very comprehensive statement, although I doubt she should have been as generous as she was to her predecessors, especially the one in the Coalition.0 -
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BBC:
"England death toll up to 167
A further 39 people who tested positive for coronavirus have died, bringing the total number of confirmed reported deaths in England to 167, NHS England said."0 -
Interesting, though presumably this is people following routes using Citymapper, so difficult to say if it is truly representative.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
London is a bit of an outlier...
Are there still any tourists in London?0 -
Some of the things I have seen from America are of fit looking professionalsTime_to_Leave said:
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:0 -
Moscow... lots of public transport. They could be hammered.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
London is a bit of an outlier...0 -
The result is due 2 weeks tomorrow - 4th April.OldKingCole said:
I reckon the opposite might apply, too.MikeSmithson said:
The LAB leadership ballot closes on Wednesday with he result at next weekend. If it is not Starmer then many will be claiming it is a fix.HYUFD said:Technically the Democratic nomination has not been resolved, Biden still needs 800 delegates or so to be nominee though he is likely to be. Trump passed the threshold of delegates needed to be GOP nominee on Tuesday.
Labour leadership election at least to be decided in early April still ongoing0 -
That is an utterly appalling thing to say, and I am disgusted at you. "given these are US data," please.Time_to_Leave said:
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:1 -
That's my impression too. I paid for my funeral years ago - so that's one type of insurance that may well pay off for the insurers now!IshmaelZ said:
My impression is you'll be bloody lucky to get anything describable as a funeral, never mind the religion.Benpointer said:
Silly comment. You might not want any religion at your funeral but most do, I believe.Pulpstar said:
Should be limited to undertakers and grave diggers if the Gov't wants to take it seriously.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is for funerals, cremations, and the like.Pulpstar said:Religous staff ??!?!
You've got to be shitting me.
Good afternoon, everyone.0 -
Good afternoon, Miss JGP.0
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The virus is barely in Russia.rcs1000 said:
Moscow... lots of public transport. They could be hammered.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
London is a bit of an outlier...0 -
The one thing working in the governments favour is that when total lockdown comes, and it will of course, then within a couple of weeks there won't be many wishing they'd had the opportunity to extend the experience.rcs1000 said:
It's a tough one.
Imagine if the government, ten days ago, had implemented a complete shut down of the UK. It would been met with howls of anguish, and been regarded as disproportionate, etc.
Now, imagine it had announced it was going to implement one... Well, then you'd have had Italian chaos.
There are no easy answers. I think Boris and Co deserve a B for their work. They probably could have amoved slightly quicker this week, but overall they've dealt with a fluid situation reasonably well.
It feels to me like they are waiting off as long as possible for the public clamour for a hard response to build and then the hammer will come down.
If they'd gone too early I think there would have been that typical British response of just chinning it off.0 -
How do you know that?Pulpstar said:
The virus is barely in Russia.rcs1000 said:
Moscow... lots of public transport. They could be hammered.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
London is a bit of an outlier...0 -
About the same as yesterdayBenpointer said:BBC:
"England death toll up to 167
A further 39 people who tested positive for coronavirus have died, bringing the total number of confirmed reported deaths in England to 167, NHS England said."0 -
If they aren't battling it, then we can expect Putin to get up to something with US, EU and UK all focused on this massive crisis.Benpointer said:
How do you know that?Pulpstar said:
The virus is barely in Russia.rcs1000 said:
Moscow... lots of public transport. They could be hammered.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
London is a bit of an outlier...0 -
It is in advance.TheValiant said:
And.... is payment in arrears or in advance?TheScreamingEagles said:
Cineworld are planning on taking my next Cineworld unlimited payment at the start of April, but after that the monthly payments will be paused until the cinemas reopen.TheValiant said:
Are they still taking money from online sales? Despite the latter closing?MaxPB said:Someone needs to make a browser extension with puts up a huge warning on websites of companies that have fired all of their staff like Britannia hotels and Cineworld. Fuck those companies.
Whilst they need support, and even their terms and conditions say so, if they take payment then they need to provide a service. What are they going to provide?0 -
The virus is barely (recognised and detected) in Russia.Pulpstar said:
The virus is barely in Russia.rcs1000 said:
Moscow... lots of public transport. They could be hammered.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
London is a bit of an outlier...0 -
Hospitals struggling now -
https://www.hsj.co.uk/news/hospitals-critical-care-unit-overwhelmed-by-coronavirus-patients/7027189.article0 -
Hard to see why it won't affect Russia as much as anywhere else in Europe.rottenborough said:
If they aren't battling it, then we can expect Putin to get up to something with US, EU and UK all focused on this massive crisis.Benpointer said:
How do you know that?Pulpstar said:
The virus is barely in Russia.rcs1000 said:
Moscow... lots of public transport. They could be hammered.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
London is a bit of an outlier...0 -
I am assuming the boffins have been advised as to how terrible such restrictions are on humans, who are social animals. The longer they can hold off, the better, and also gives time for a bit more of her immunity to build.SunnyJim said:
The one thing working in the governments favour is that when total lockdown comes, and it will of course, then within a couple of weeks there won't be many wishing they'd had the opportunity to extend the experience.rcs1000 said:
It's a tough one.
Imagine if the government, ten days ago, had implemented a complete shut down of the UK. It would been met with howls of anguish, and been regarded as disproportionate, etc.
Now, imagine it had announced it was going to implement one... Well, then you'd have had Italian chaos.
There are no easy answers. I think Boris and Co deserve a B for their work. They probably could have amoved slightly quicker this week, but overall they've dealt with a fluid situation reasonably well.
It feels to me like they are waiting off as long as possible for the public clamour for a hard response to build and then the hammer will come down.
If they'd gone too early I think there would have been that typical British response of just chinning it off.0 -
Sounds like you need a lawyerTheScreamingEagles said:
It is in advance.TheValiant said:
And.... is payment in arrears or in advance?TheScreamingEagles said:
Cineworld are planning on taking my next Cineworld unlimited payment at the start of April, but after that the monthly payments will be paused until the cinemas reopen.TheValiant said:
Are they still taking money from online sales? Despite the latter closing?MaxPB said:Someone needs to make a browser extension with puts up a huge warning on websites of companies that have fired all of their staff like Britannia hotels and Cineworld. Fuck those companies.
Whilst they need support, and even their terms and conditions say so, if they take payment then they need to provide a service. What are they going to provide?
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God, this is happening fast.kinabalu said:
I am reminded again of Hemingway on how he went bankrupt: gradually, then suddenly.1 -
One of the joys of the US is that I was able to spend $19 and buy a jar with 225 500mg paracetamol in it.MikeSmithson said:0 -
Timing of Sunak's announcement today anyone?0
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F1: apparently, F1 teams will be manufacturing ventilators:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51975690
Most F1 teams are based in the UK, so this is quite handy.0 -
Big populations. Dense living. Weak states. Poor health systems. Africa is not much discussed over here - is it ever? - but it is surely facing a calamity.Benpointer said:This looks worrying. According to the BBC:
"...the number of confirmed cases across Africa has increased to around 850 - almost six times the number recorded just a week ago."
If confirmed, a six-fold increase in a week doesn't bode well for Africa.0 -
I think they are going to be "testing" the iceberg / herd immunity theories....kinabalu said:
Big populations. Dense living. Weak states. Poor health systems. Africa is not much discussed over here - is it ever? - but it is surely facing a calamity.Benpointer said:This looks worrying. According to the BBC:
"...the number of confirmed cases across Africa has increased to around 850 - almost six times the number recorded just a week ago."
If confirmed, a six-fold increase in a week doesn't bode well for Africa.0 -
I am so sorry. I shall voluntarily self isolate at ConservativeHome as penance.IshmaelZ said:
That is an utterly appalling thing to say, and I am disgusted at you. "given these are US data," please.Time_to_Leave said:
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:
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All they can hope is that the humidity and climate can save them. A very young population will also help but the level of medical care will in many cases offset even that.kinabalu said:
Big populations. Dense living. Weak states. Poor health systems. Africa is not much discussed over here - is it ever? - but it is surely facing a calamity?Benpointer said:This looks worrying. According to the BBC:
"...the number of confirmed cases across Africa has increased to around 850 - almost six times the number recorded just a week ago."
If confirmed, a six-fold increase in a week doesn't bode well for Africa.0 -
Large portions of the population with existing medical conditions like AIDS.kinabalu said:
Big populations. Dense living. Weak states. Poor health systems. Africa is not much discussed over here - is it ever? - but it is surely facing a calamity.Benpointer said:This looks worrying. According to the BBC:
"...the number of confirmed cases across Africa has increased to around 850 - almost six times the number recorded just a week ago."
If confirmed, a six-fold increase in a week doesn't bode well for Africa.
It could be horrendous - as it is in Iran.0 -
Surely Boris is going to have to go much further than telling Tim Martin to shut the pub this afternoon? It is clear that London is getting out of control.0
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Yes. No question. And India.kinabalu said:
Big populations. Dense living. Weak states. Poor health systems. Africa is not much discussed over here - is it ever? - but it is surely facing a calamity.Benpointer said:This looks worrying. According to the BBC:
"...the number of confirmed cases across Africa has increased to around 850 - almost six times the number recorded just a week ago."
If confirmed, a six-fold increase in a week doesn't bode well for Africa.0 -
Salmond Jury has now been out for more than 2 hours. I am not sure how long they will sit tonight. Under normal circumstances this would be continued about now until Monday but there must be a real worry how many of the Jury might be self isolating by then.0
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The apology should sufice - we all say silly things at times (except me obvs.)Time_to_Leave said:
I am so sorry. I shall voluntarily self isolate at ConservativeHome as penance.IshmaelZ said:
That is an utterly appalling thing to say, and I am disgusted at you. "given these are US data," please.Time_to_Leave said:
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:
It's not time to leave yet @Time_to_Leave!1 -
I am amazed how quickly they have got through the trial given my general impression of number and gravity of charges, it felt like a 4 week job. Perhaps they have hurried it for reasons you suggest?DavidL said:Salmond Jury has now been out for more than 2 hours. I am not sure how long they will sit tonight. Under normal circumstances this would be continued about now until Monday but there must be a real worry how many of the Jury might be self isolating by then.
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Any pressure on a jury over the time they take is a ground of appeal. Judges will never do it. Making them sit too late ditto.DavidL said:Salmond Jury has now been out for more than 2 hours. I am not sure how long they will sit tonight. Under normal circumstances this would be continued about now until Monday but there must be a real worry how many of the Jury might be self isolating by then.
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Officially.Pulpstar said:
The virus is barely in Russia.rcs1000 said:
Moscow... lots of public transport. They could be hammered.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
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I read that only 3% of Africans are over 65, so that should help a lot.kinabalu said:
Big populations. Dense living. Weak states. Poor health systems. Africa is not much discussed over here - is it ever? - but it is surely facing a calamity.Benpointer said:This looks worrying. According to the BBC:
"...the number of confirmed cases across Africa has increased to around 850 - almost six times the number recorded just a week ago."
If confirmed, a six-fold increase in a week doesn't bode well for Africa.
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Yes, I suppose that's right.FrancisUrquhart said:I think they are going to be "testing" the iceberg / herd immunity theories....
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Their defence will be that they read pb.com.....Floater said:Two more senators made hefty stock sales before the coronavirus pandemic tanked global markets, records revealed as two other lawmakers who dumped millions in shares faced mounting calls to resign.
Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Jim Inhofe sold as much as $6.4 million worth of stock in the weeks before panic about the coronavirus sparked a worldwide selloff, according to disclosure filings first reported by the New York Times.
The additional revelations came amid widespread outrage toward GOP Sens. Richard Burr and Kelly Loeffler, who reportedly sold shares after getting briefings on the coronavirus threat.2 -
Please do not do that. We all misjudge things sometimesTime_to_Leave said:
I am so sorry. I shall voluntarily self isolate at ConservativeHome as penance.IshmaelZ said:
That is an utterly appalling thing to say, and I am disgusted at you. "given these are US data," please.Time_to_Leave said:
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:
Northwick Park Harrow declared critical incident due to surge in covid 19 cases
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Thank god for that. Would have been a novelty to be the wet liberal in the room though.Benpointer said:
The apology should sufice - we all say silly things at times (except me obvs.)Time_to_Leave said:
I am so sorry. I shall voluntarily self isolate at ConservativeHome as penance.IshmaelZ said:
That is an utterly appalling thing to say, and I am disgusted at you. "given these are US data," please.Time_to_Leave said:
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:
It's not time to leave yet @Time_to_Leave!
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There are 692 episodes of Prisoner Cell Block H, each lasting 45 minutes. So no need to panic in terms of things to do over the next few weeks and months.FrancisUrquhart said:First I find out Netflix and YouTube are restricting, now this...
Television channels are scrambling to commission new programmes suitable for a stay-at-home audience, with Channel 4 today announcing that it has commissioned Jamie Oliver to present a daily show providing tips for cooking simple recipes in a crisis.
The programme, entitled Keep Cooking and Carry On, will be broadcast every weekday next week at 5.30pm – with Oliver pledging to teach people “how to make the most from kitchen staples and how to be creative with whatever ingredients they’ve got at home”.-1 -
Young populations though. If you're old in a South African township your immune system is probably tough as old boots mind.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think they are going to be "testing" the iceberg / herd immunity theories....kinabalu said:
Big populations. Dense living. Weak states. Poor health systems. Africa is not much discussed over here - is it ever? - but it is surely facing a calamity.Benpointer said:This looks worrying. According to the BBC:
"...the number of confirmed cases across Africa has increased to around 850 - almost six times the number recorded just a week ago."
If confirmed, a six-fold increase in a week doesn't bode well for Africa.0 -
I know lots of people who dumped their shares back when this story started, it was pretty obvious to anyone paying attention. I don't like the idea that politicians have to take a loss on all their finances, just because they are more up to date on what is happening.Floater said:Two more senators made hefty stock sales before the coronavirus pandemic tanked global markets, records revealed as two other lawmakers who dumped millions in shares faced mounting calls to resign.
Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Jim Inhofe sold as much as $6.4 million worth of stock in the weeks before panic about the coronavirus sparked a worldwide selloff, according to disclosure filings first reported by the New York Times.
The additional revelations came amid widespread outrage toward GOP Sens. Richard Burr and Kelly Loeffler, who reportedly sold shares after getting briefings on the coronavirus threat.
It also says "the weeks before panic", so it wasn't in response to a particular piece of inside information they were all given.1 -
A bit like logging on here in the late evening lol!Time_to_Leave said:
Thank god for that. Would have been a novelty to be the wet liberal in the room though.Benpointer said:
The apology should sufice - we all say silly things at times (except me obvs.)Time_to_Leave said:
I am so sorry. I shall voluntarily self isolate at ConservativeHome as penance.IshmaelZ said:
That is an utterly appalling thing to say, and I am disgusted at you. "given these are US data," please.Time_to_Leave said:
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:
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The terrifying thing is that you’d think London would be best served of anywhere in the U.K., given the number of hospitals with a national role.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Please do not do that. We all misjudge things sometimesTime_to_Leave said:
I am so sorry. I shall voluntarily self isolate at ConservativeHome as penance.IshmaelZ said:
That is an utterly appalling thing to say, and I am disgusted at you. "given these are US data," please.Time_to_Leave said:
Does it make me a terrible person to ask whether, given this is US data, there is any info on the weight and fitness of those younger people...?AlastairMeeks said:
Northwick Park Harrow declared critical incident due to surge in covid 19 cases
London looks very serious
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Presumably this one has to be to the House, and not at the daily Boris briefing?Benpointer said:Timing of Sunak's announcement today anyone?
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Well - if my in laws are anything to go by the social distancing thing isn't being taken seriously enough in LondonDavidL said:0 -
I agree there will be no pressure and they have had a demanding day listening to the defence speech and the Judge's charge as well. I would guess about 5.30 would be the cut off point. We can lose 1 or even 2. The legal minimum is 12.algarkirk said:
Any pressure on a jury over the time they take is a ground of appeal. Judges will never do it. Making them sit too late ditto.DavidL said:Salmond Jury has now been out for more than 2 hours. I am not sure how long they will sit tonight. Under normal circumstances this would be continued about now until Monday but there must be a real worry how many of the Jury might be self isolating by then.
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Boris Johnson is useless. We need someone who is serious and competent and who can exercise leadership. It's frustrating. We are stuck with him and so need him to do his best possible. It's a matter of life and death.numbertwelve said:
I don’t think Boris is doing that bad a job in the circumstances but what I would say is it does feel he’s being buffeted by events a little.matthiasfromhamburg said:
It's high time for him to ditch the stiff-upper-lip-kabuki and get real. He needs to take a step forward.Floater said:Boris Johnson is expected to announce the shut down of London today with bars, clubs, pubs, restaurants and cafes all ordered to close.
Shops considered ‘non-essential’ such as clothing stores are also likely to be forced to shut their doors in an attempt to curb coronavirus in the capital.
Well-placed sources said the Prime Minister would make the announcement at his afternoon press conference. London’s mayor Sadiq Khan is expected to make a separate statement.
No school closures turns into school closures 24 hours later. No London lockdown (possibly) turns into London lockdown etc.
If these things are coming down the road in a days time, I don’t really see the reason why it hasn’t just been done. Not sure 24 hours makes a huge amount of difference.0 -
I thought that but is the House sitting today, as it's Friday (and it's not as if there's any kind of emergency going on)?MarqueeMark said:
Presumably this one has to be to the House, and not at the daily Boris briefing?Benpointer said:Timing of Sunak's announcement today anyone?
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No business on a Friday? Speaker might be writing another tweet.MarqueeMark said:
Presumably this one has to be to the House, and not at the daily Boris briefing?Benpointer said:Timing of Sunak's announcement today anyone?
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I don't want to make comments on it for professional reasons but it was quite a pared back Crown case. Basically the women and limited corroboration. No attempt to paint a bigger picture etc.IshmaelZ said:
I am amazed how quickly they have got through the trial given my general impression of number and gravity of charges, it felt like a 4 week job. Perhaps they have hurried it for reasons you suggest?DavidL said:Salmond Jury has now been out for more than 2 hours. I am not sure how long they will sit tonight. Under normal circumstances this would be continued about now until Monday but there must be a real worry how many of the Jury might be self isolating by then.
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You mean substantially more younger people I thinkJM1 said:
Agreed. Two weeks until it peaks in London if we properly lock down. So many thousands of additional cases. WIll be interesting to see if the demographics do help though, as there are substantially fewer younger people in greater London.Pulpstar said:1 -
I bet it is, they are just not testingPulpstar said:
The virus is barely in Russia.rcs1000 said:
Moscow... lots of public transport. They could be hammered.Gardenwalker said:https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1240999017644994562?s=21
London is a bit of an outlier...0
