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Now that is something I did not dostate_go_away said:
and had a sex changeBig_G_NorthWales said:
Sky said males are more at risk than female as are smokers, especially male smokersanother_richard said:
Is there any data on smokers vs non-smokers or whether living in a highly polluted area has an effect ?Foxy said:
Being a young female religious Korean does increase risk of infection, but they have a good survival is my interpretation.alterego said:
I've ticked most risk boxes up to now but this has cheered me up as I'm not young or religious or femaleFoxy said:
I don't think Korea is doing badly. These are their infection and mortality figures btw.Flanner said:
On the contrary.Luckyguy1983 said:
Do you think? I don't think they have a brand really. Chinese products are cheaper, or better value let's say. That's it. That's no offence to China - I fully admire them for their achievement of economic dominance, but I don't see their prospect of future business being damaged providing their products remain cheaper than the competition.Casino_Royale said:The long term damage to brand China is going to be huge over this.
In my industry (clothing) China has an extraordinarily strong brand - among professional clothing buyers. A country of limited creative or stylistic skills (which don't matter, since most designing's done in the West), but a formidably reliable network of businesses supplying raw materials, key components (like buttons and zips) and on-time, high-quality, garment assembly.
If anything, I'd say that brand has been strengthened by the country's robust response to the crisis. Everyone knows the place is run by unaccountable and out of touch politicians, so no-one's surprised the issue was badly fudged in the early days.
But the contrast between the ruthlessness of China's containment programme since late Jan and the self-deceiving, lackadaisical, behaviour of the White House and the cockups in Italy, Japan and Korea, is stark.
In Jan, I'd say there was a case for repatriating production (though it's currently impossible). With the haplessness four Western countries are showing (and that Johnson is still showing on most other issues), China's reputation for Teutonic reliability once it knows what the problem is has probably improved over the past month.
https://twitter.com/YangeHan/status/1235866453028438019?s=09
Mind you Korean older patients do seem to better than the Chinese figures.
I would be interested in a similar age breakdown for Italy.
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Scotland Women's Six Nations match with France in Glasgow on Saturday has been postponed after a home player contracted coronavirus.
The player is being treated in "a health care facility but is otherwise well", say Scottish Rugby, while seven members of the Scotland playing and management staff are in self-isolation.
Scotland men v France at Murrayfield on Sunday is set to go ahead as planned.
Scotland women's last game, in Italy, was called off over coronavirus fears.
Dr James Robson, Scottish Rugby's chief medical officer said, "We are pleased that our player is doing well and that all the correct medical procedures have been followed and continue to be followed.
"We are working with the Scottish Government in continuing to observe and follow NHS advice."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/517776210 -
UK Tourism is going to be hit bad.another_richard said:
The money will still be spent but in different ways.Big_G_NorthWales said:My daughter in law and her mother were leaving Vancouver on Monday for a road trip to Australia then a cruise around Australia and New Zealand and they have cancelled the trip today
The cruise line offered a full credit to be used at some later date on any of their cruises, but you do wonder how much of the cruise industry will be left standing after all of this
I am in the process of cancelling my rail and air porter charges for our Vancouver trip in May, though I have not made a final decision on the flights. Air porter told me they have been deluged with cancellations as so many are cancelling flights
The damage this is doing to economies is frightening, even more than the virus
The UK tourism sector is likely to do well as are the supermarkets.0 -
Initially she got fooled by woke twitter and thought that the electorate was far more progressive than it actually was. That made her take positions like Medicare For All that would have been a liability in the general election. So once she realized this she started to reverse-ferret. But the left is extremely alert to signs of reverse-ferreting, and hardened around Bernie. She'd already done too much to worry the centre, and that was the end of that.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.1 -
All yours to worry aboutBenpointer said:
You're spot on there Big_G.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I should be as I am very high risk but I think the shock to the economies worldwide is going to be very disruptive and I expect recession across the globe is odds onisam said:
I’m more frightened of the virus to be honestBig_G_NorthWales said:My daughter in law and her mother were leaving Vancouver on Monday for a road trip to Australia then a cruise around Australia and New Zealand and they have cancelled the trip today
The cruise line offered a full credit to be used at some later date on any of their cruises, but you do wonder how much of the cruise industry will be left standing after all of this
I am in the process of cancelling my rail and air porter charges for our Vancouver trip in May, though I have not made a final decision on the flights. Air porter told me they have been deluged with cancellations as so many are cancelling flights
The damage this is doing to economies is frightening, even more than the virus
@isam: it's the economy, stupid.0 -
It’s a hard one to quantify.noneoftheabove said:
Outflanked by Sanders for leftistsCyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.
Buttiegieg over performing for educated vote
Misogyny
Another Clinton
Would lose to Trump
The last 3 are obviously linked, its hard to disentangle whether its misogyny that Democrats think men will perform better in the Presidential elections, or if its them being practical.
Political campaigns are strange things, and sometimes reason doesn’t come in to it.
But all of the above, except perhaps the first one, and ‘another Clinton’, which is just silly.
I don’t think Sanders outflanked her so much as she tried to position herself slightly to his right. But of course the Sanders supporters (as we know from last time around) are pretty hard to steal, so the appeal of a slightly less left wing version of him had quite a narrow market.
Women being held to higher standards was almost certainly a thing, too. A very large portion of the Democratic selectorate just want the candidate most likely to beat Trump. The number of quotes where someone said some variant of ‘I really like her, but I’m not sure she can win‘ is legion.
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Only if you pay extrastate_go_away said:
Do those 1970s type bed and breakfast landladies still exist that give you stern ;looks and tell you to be in by 9pm or else?another_richard said:
The money will still be spent but in different ways.Big_G_NorthWales said:My daughter in law and her mother were leaving Vancouver on Monday for a road trip to Australia then a cruise around Australia and New Zealand and they have cancelled the trip today
The cruise line offered a full credit to be used at some later date on any of their cruises, but you do wonder how much of the cruise industry will be left standing after all of this
I am in the process of cancelling my rail and air porter charges for our Vancouver trip in May, though I have not made a final decision on the flights. Air porter told me they have been deluged with cancellations as so many are cancelling flights
The damage this is doing to economies is frightening, even more than the virus
The UK tourism sector is likely to do well as are the supermarkets.4 -
What does she expect the British to do? Face masks don't work. Washing hands does. If they won't believe that and want to go back to China where they can catch the virus through their masks then good luck to them.IshmaelZ said:
The most chilling part - Chinese students think they are safer from coronavirus in China than they are in the uk:Benpointer said:The impact of this on the economy is going to be far wider and deeper than we can currently imagine imo. Anywhere you look is going to be be seriously adversely impacted. Just one minor example:
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/mar/06/uk-universities-face-cash-black-hole-coronavirus-crisis
Higson said the differing approaches to dealing with coronavirus had to be addressed by universities to make international students more comfortable. “As the official advice from China is to use face masks, the official British advice to focus on hygiene and frequent washing of hands is interpreted by some of our Chinese students as not being strong enough and creates concern with our Chinese students about the official UK response to Covid-19. In turn, this is resulting in some of our Chinese students now believing that it might be safer to return to China rather than staying in the UK,” she said.1 -
The bits dependent upon Chinese and American tourists will be.IanB2 said:
UK Tourism is going to be hit bad.another_richard said:
The money will still be spent but in different ways.Big_G_NorthWales said:My daughter in law and her mother were leaving Vancouver on Monday for a road trip to Australia then a cruise around Australia and New Zealand and they have cancelled the trip today
The cruise line offered a full credit to be used at some later date on any of their cruises, but you do wonder how much of the cruise industry will be left standing after all of this
I am in the process of cancelling my rail and air porter charges for our Vancouver trip in May, though I have not made a final decision on the flights. Air porter told me they have been deluged with cancellations as so many are cancelling flights
The damage this is doing to economies is frightening, even more than the virus
The UK tourism sector is likely to do well as are the supermarkets.
But there's a lot beyond that.
And British people will still want have fun and spend money - they will just be more nervous about doing it abroad.0 -
Are you self-isolated from the economy?isam said:
All yours to worry aboutBenpointer said:
You're spot on there Big_G.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I should be as I am very high risk but I think the shock to the economies worldwide is going to be very disruptive and I expect recession across the globe is odds onisam said:
I’m more frightened of the virus to be honestBig_G_NorthWales said:My daughter in law and her mother were leaving Vancouver on Monday for a road trip to Australia then a cruise around Australia and New Zealand and they have cancelled the trip today
The cruise line offered a full credit to be used at some later date on any of their cruises, but you do wonder how much of the cruise industry will be left standing after all of this
I am in the process of cancelling my rail and air porter charges for our Vancouver trip in May, though I have not made a final decision on the flights. Air porter told me they have been deluged with cancellations as so many are cancelling flights
The damage this is doing to economies is frightening, even more than the virus
@isam: it's the economy, stupid.0 -
To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film1 -
I try to not let my financial state be the most important thing to worry about. If you’re skint, you’re skintBenpointer said:
Are you self-isolated from the economy?isam said:
All yours to worry aboutBenpointer said:
You're spot on there Big_G.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I should be as I am very high risk but I think the shock to the economies worldwide is going to be very disruptive and I expect recession across the globe is odds onisam said:
I’m more frightened of the virus to be honestBig_G_NorthWales said:My daughter in law and her mother were leaving Vancouver on Monday for a road trip to Australia then a cruise around Australia and New Zealand and they have cancelled the trip today
The cruise line offered a full credit to be used at some later date on any of their cruises, but you do wonder how much of the cruise industry will be left standing after all of this
I am in the process of cancelling my rail and air porter charges for our Vancouver trip in May, though I have not made a final decision on the flights. Air porter told me they have been deluged with cancellations as so many are cancelling flights
The damage this is doing to economies is frightening, even more than the virus
@isam: it's the economy, stupid.
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I was amazed to read yesterday that 63% of Chinese men smoke but less than 5% of women. The article was saying that this appears to be one reason why men are more likely to die of he virus as they already have compromised lungs.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky said males are more at risk than female as are smokers, especially male smokersanother_richard said:
Is there any data on smokers vs non-smokers or whether living in a highly polluted area has an effect ?Foxy said:
Being a young female religious Korean does increase risk of infection, but they have a good survival is my interpretation.alterego said:
I've ticked most risk boxes up to now but this has cheered me up as I'm not young or religious or femaleFoxy said:
I don't think Korea is doing badly. These are their infection and mortality figures btw.Flanner said:
On the contrary.Luckyguy1983 said:
Do you think? I don't think they have a brand really. Chinese products are cheaper, or better value let's say. That's it. That's no offence to China - I fully admire them for their achievement of economic dominance, but I don't see their prospect of future business being damaged providing their products remain cheaper than the competition.Casino_Royale said:The long term damage to brand China is going to be huge over this.
In my industry (clothing) China has an extraordinarily strong brand - among professional clothing buyers. A country of limited creative or stylistic skills (which don't matter, since most designing's done in the West), but a formidably reliable network of businesses supplying raw materials, key components (like buttons and zips) and on-time, high-quality, garment assembly.
If anything, I'd say that brand has been strengthened by the country's robust response to the crisis. Everyone knows the place is run by unaccountable and out of touch politicians, so no-one's surprised the issue was badly fudged in the early days.
But the contrast between the ruthlessness of China's containment programme since late Jan and the self-deceiving, lackadaisical, behaviour of the White House and the cockups in Italy, Japan and Korea, is stark.
In Jan, I'd say there was a case for repatriating production (though it's currently impossible). With the haplessness four Western countries are showing (and that Johnson is still showing on most other issues), China's reputation for Teutonic reliability once it knows what the problem is has probably improved over the past month.
https://twitter.com/YangeHan/status/1235866453028438019?s=09
Mind you Korean older patients do seem to better than the Chinese figures.
I would be interested in a similar age breakdown for Italy.
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Universities could feel the pinch - without barely literate rich Chinese students paying £30k a year they are going to have to settle for British kids on £9k.0
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One of our foremost political intellectuals...TGOHF666 said:0 -
On the misogyny angle it's discussed at length in post-dropout the Maddow interview with Warren - I think there's going to be a lot of pressure on Biden to pick a woman VP.0
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Sadly, you may be in danger of becoming skinter.isam said:
I try to not let my financial state be the most important thing to worry about. If you’re skint, you’re skintBenpointer said:
Are you self-isolated from the economy?isam said:
All yours to worry aboutBenpointer said:
You're spot on there Big_G.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I should be as I am very high risk but I think the shock to the economies worldwide is going to be very disruptive and I expect recession across the globe is odds onisam said:
I’m more frightened of the virus to be honestBig_G_NorthWales said:My daughter in law and her mother were leaving Vancouver on Monday for a road trip to Australia then a cruise around Australia and New Zealand and they have cancelled the trip today
The cruise line offered a full credit to be used at some later date on any of their cruises, but you do wonder how much of the cruise industry will be left standing after all of this
I am in the process of cancelling my rail and air porter charges for our Vancouver trip in May, though I have not made a final decision on the flights. Air porter told me they have been deluged with cancellations as so many are cancelling flights
The damage this is doing to economies is frightening, even more than the virus
@isam: it's the economy, stupid.0 -
There was a poll a few days go that asked Dem primary voters who they would prefer as President: over 50% of Dem primary voters selected Warren.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.
In the same poll they were asked who they were going to vote for in the primary and around 10% said Warren.
Dem primary voters are morons is my conclusion.
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So... OH, PA, WI, and MI are the old rust belt. Go back forty years, and pretty much any American car would have been built there.another_richard said:
Is there any reason why OH and PA are doing better then IA, WI and MI ?rcs1000 said:
I'd be very surprised if GA flipped - IA is much more likely, as they've been hammered by the Trump trade wars.not_on_fire said:
They also have a good shot at flipping AZ which is tuning increasing blue. Plus an outside chance in GA.rpjs said:
Assuming the Dems hold all the states they won in 2016 (a good bet I think), then if Trump loses MI and WI, then the Dems just have to turn Florida or North Carolina or Pennsylvania. Personally I think the Dems will get back PA, and I think NC should be pretty easy for them - it's the new Virginia: a state that's turning blue due to an influx of lefter-leaning voters attracted by tech jobs.nunu2 said:
If he wins Florida and Pennsylvania he will win. Idk how exactly he will get to 270 but if he gets those two it suggests close results are mainly going his wayAlistair said:
There are some real wildcards in there. Alaska for instance.rcs1000 said:
This is the bible: https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/Pulpstar said:How does everyone make the Dem/GOP horse race ?
Interesting to note that Joe Biden received more votes in Virginia than Clinton and Sanders did combined in 2016.
He managed the trick in Minnesota also.
Whilst those states are expected to stay blue I wonder if he can rack up big numbers in PA, WI, FL ?
Biden was +5.5 on the RCP spread vs Trump and that was coming off a poor cycle for him.
The 2.58 for him to get the presidency could be massive.
Forget hypotheticals. The question is "how popular is Trump in a given state".
And right now, Florida and Pennsylvania look pretty good for him, while Michigan and Wisconsin look bloody awful.
IA is not rust belt. It's a farming state, with a prosperous capital, that typically leans Republican. In a normal year, you could expect to take the Republican nationwide share and add about three or four points to get the Iowa result. But farming country has been hammered by Trump's trade war. So I think that's a special case.
Re OH and PA vs WI and MI. MI has really struggled economically in the last three years, so I think that's part of it. Wisconsin hasn't done much better, despite having had a Republican governor until rcently.0 -
So more than ten but less than twenty.eadric said:
A lot.another_richard said:
So how many face masks, latex gloves and bottles of sanitizer do you have ?eadric said:
The only reason it won't become the new normal is because all the masks have already sold out (to people like me)geoffw said:Saw a couple wearing facemasks in Waitrose this afternoon. Could have been Chinese, oriental anyway. No one paid them any attention - this is Edinburgh, Morningside. Then on my way home saw another, jogging. I hope it doesn't become the new normal. My normalcy bias showing there.
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As per the polling I mentioned she was insanely popular amongst Dems but had a perception of 'unelectabilty' *cough*misoginy*cough*another_richard said:
The after effects of the dreadful Hilary perhaps.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.
Or maybe not extreme enough to appeal to the Sanders supporters but not mainstream enough to appeal to the establishment.0 -
It will also be predominantly men who have worked in mining, heavy industry and other lung damaging occupations.Richard_Tyndall said:
I was amazed to read yesterday that 63% of Chinese men smoke but less than 5% of women. The article was saying that this appears to be one reason why men are more likely to die of he virus as they already have compromised lungs.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky said males are more at risk than female as are smokers, especially male smokersanother_richard said:
Is there any data on smokers vs non-smokers or whether living in a highly polluted area has an effect ?Foxy said:
Being a young female religious Korean does increase risk of infection, but they have a good survival is my interpretation.alterego said:
I've ticked most risk boxes up to now but this has cheered me up as I'm not young or religious or femaleFoxy said:
I don't think Korea is doing badly. These are their infection and mortality figures btw.Flanner said:
On the contrary.Luckyguy1983 said:
Do you think? I don't think they have a brand really. Chinese products are cheaper, or better value let's say. That's it. That's no offence to China - I fully admire them for their achievement of economic dominance, but I don't see their prospect of future business being damaged providing their products remain cheaper than the competition.Casino_Royale said:The long term damage to brand China is going to be huge over this.
In my industry (clothing) China has an extraordinarily strong brand - among professional clothing buyers. A country of limited creative or stylistic skills (which don't matter, since most designing's done in the West), but a formidably reliable network of businesses supplying raw materials, key components (like buttons and zips) and on-time, high-quality, garment assembly.
If anything, I'd say that brand has been strengthened by the country's robust response to the crisis. Everyone knows the place is run by unaccountable and out of touch politicians, so no-one's surprised the issue was badly fudged in the early days.
But the contrast between the ruthlessness of China's containment programme since late Jan and the self-deceiving, lackadaisical, behaviour of the White House and the cockups in Italy, Japan and Korea, is stark.
In Jan, I'd say there was a case for repatriating production (though it's currently impossible). With the haplessness four Western countries are showing (and that Johnson is still showing on most other issues), China's reputation for Teutonic reliability once it knows what the problem is has probably improved over the past month.
https://twitter.com/YangeHan/status/1235866453028438019?s=09
Mind you Korean older patients do seem to better than the Chinese figures.
I would be interested in a similar age breakdown for Italy.
So pleased I stopped 16 years ago0 -
The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.0 -
Oh behave - emptied shelves with VAT at 20% is manna for the exchequer.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.0 -
Psalm by Roxy Musicisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Beethoven's Violin Concerto Opus 61
How Long Will I Love You by The Waterboys (The song of when I met my wife)
Jungle Land by Bruce Springsteen
Mozart's Laudate Dominum sung by Kiri Te Kanawa
Journey of the Sorcerer by The Eagles
Angel From Montgomery by The Tedeschi Trucks Band
America by Simon and Garfunkle
The book would be The Alexandria Quartet by Laurence Durrell
The film would be a difficult choice between Local Hero and Blade runner with the latter just edging it.
In the radio programme you can choose an object and I would choose a guitar so I can finally learn how to play properly.0 -
Thanks to all re the Warren replies.
The Democrats seem to have ended up with two appalling candidates. The interest will be in the VP choices this year.0 -
No, my conclusion is that Dem voters really want to get rid of Trump.Alistair said:
There was a poll a few days go that asked Dem primary voters who they would prefer as President: over 50% of Dem primary voters selected Warren.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.
In the same poll they were asked who they were going to vote for in the primary and around 10% said Warren.
Dem primary voters are morons is my conclusion.
The primary voters aren't just deciding who they want to because they want them. They're also choosing who they want, whom they think can beat Trump in November.
If Dem voters thought Warren would lose in November then its only logical not to vote for her.0 -
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.
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The Republican government of Wisconsin has engaged in a series of utterly economically and democracy damaging moves. Culminating in the Foxxcon debacle and the 'sore loser' session in 2018.rcs1000 said:
So... OH, PA, WI, and MI are the old rust belt. Go back forty years, and pretty much any American car would have been built there.another_richard said:
Is there any reason why OH and PA are doing better then IA, WI and MI ?rcs1000 said:
I'd be very surprised if GA flipped - IA is much more likely, as they've been hammered by the Trump trade wars.not_on_fire said:
They also have a good shot at flipping AZ which is tuning increasing blue. Plus an outside chance in GA.rpjs said:
Assuming the Dems hold all the states they won in 2016 (a good bet I think), then if Trump loses MI and WI, then the Dems just have to turn Florida or North Carolina or Pennsylvania. Personally I think the Dems will get back PA, and I think NC should be pretty easy for them - it's the new Virginia: a state that's turning blue due to an influx of lefter-leaning voters attracted by tech jobs.nunu2 said:
If he wins Florida and Pennsylvania he will win. Idk how exactly he will get to 270 but if he gets those two it suggests close results are mainly going his wayAlistair said:
There are some real wildcards in there. Alaska for instance.rcs1000 said:
This is the bible: https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/Pulpstar said:How does everyone make the Dem/GOP horse race ?
Interesting to note that Joe Biden received more votes in Virginia than Clinton and Sanders did combined in 2016.
He managed the trick in Minnesota also.
Whilst those states are expected to stay blue I wonder if he can rack up big numbers in PA, WI, FL ?
Biden was +5.5 on the RCP spread vs Trump and that was coming off a poor cycle for him.
The 2.58 for him to get the presidency could be massive.
Forget hypotheticals. The question is "how popular is Trump in a given state".
And right now, Florida and Pennsylvania look pretty good for him, while Michigan and Wisconsin look bloody awful.
IA is not rust belt. It's a farming state, with a prosperous capital, that typically leans Republican. In a normal year, you could expect to take the Republican nationwide share and add about three or four points to get the Iowa result. But farming country has been hammered by Trump's trade war. So I think that's a special case.
Re OH and PA vs WI and MI. MI has really struggled economically in the last three years, so I think that's part of it. Wisconsin hasn't done much better, despite having had a Republican governor until rcently.
The gerrymandering of the state legislature is something to behold, Dems would need to lead by 14 points to get half of the seats.0 -
Which foods in supermarkets attract VAT at 20%?TGOHF666 said:
Oh behave - emptied shelves with VAT at 20% is manna for the exchequer.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.0 -
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Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.0 -
Ach. Will You was just on the edge of my list along with something from Talking Heads. Brilliant song.Foxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.0 -
I disagree about Iowa - the only impressive performance the Republicans have had there in decades was 2016.rcs1000 said:
So... OH, PA, WI, and MI are the old rust belt. Go back forty years, and pretty much any American car would have been built there.another_richard said:
Is there any reason why OH and PA are doing better then IA, WI and MI ?rcs1000 said:
I'd be very surprised if GA flipped - IA is much more likely, as they've been hammered by the Trump trade wars.not_on_fire said:
They also have a good shot at flipping AZ which is tuning increasing blue. Plus an outside chance in GA.rpjs said:
Assuming the Dems hold all the states they won in 2016 (a good bet I think), then if Trump loses MI and WI, then the Dems just have to turn Florida or North Carolina or Pennsylvania. Personally I think the Dems will get back PA, and I think NC should be pretty easy for them - it's the new Virginia: a state that's turning blue due to an influx of lefter-leaning voters attracted by tech jobs.nunu2 said:
If he wins Florida and Pennsylvania he will win. Idk how exactly he will get to 270 but if he gets those two it suggests close results are mainly going his wayAlistair said:
There are some real wildcards in there. Alaska for instance.rcs1000 said:
This is the bible: https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/Pulpstar said:How does everyone make the Dem/GOP horse race ?
Interesting to note that Joe Biden received more votes in Virginia than Clinton and Sanders did combined in 2016.
He managed the trick in Minnesota also.
Whilst those states are expected to stay blue I wonder if he can rack up big numbers in PA, WI, FL ?
Biden was +5.5 on the RCP spread vs Trump and that was coming off a poor cycle for him.
The 2.58 for him to get the presidency could be massive.
Forget hypotheticals. The question is "how popular is Trump in a given state".
And right now, Florida and Pennsylvania look pretty good for him, while Michigan and Wisconsin look bloody awful.
IA is not rust belt. It's a farming state, with a prosperous capital, that typically leans Republican. In a normal year, you could expect to take the Republican nationwide share and add about three or four points to get the Iowa result. But farming country has been hammered by Trump's trade war. So I think that's a special case.
Re OH and PA vs WI and MI. MI has really struggled economically in the last three years, so I think that's part of it. Wisconsin hasn't done much better, despite having had a Republican governor until rcently.
For some reason Trump overachieved there and now it looks like reverting to its normal patters.0 -
And the reason they think she'll lose is because she's a woman.Philip_Thompson said:
No, my conclusion is that Dem voters really want to get rid of Trump.Alistair said:
There was a poll a few days go that asked Dem primary voters who they would prefer as President: over 50% of Dem primary voters selected Warren.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.
In the same poll they were asked who they were going to vote for in the primary and around 10% said Warren.
Dem primary voters are morons is my conclusion.
The primary voters aren't just deciding who they want to because they want them. They're also choosing who they want, whom they think can beat Trump in November.
If Dem voters thought Warren would lose in November then its only logical not to vote for her.
If you inverted the genders of the candidates Warren would have had this wrapped up by Super Tuesday.0 -
Bog roll and tin foil for hats are VAT free ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Which foods in supermarkets attract VAT at 20%?TGOHF666 said:
Oh behave - emptied shelves with VAT at 20% is manna for the exchequer.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.0 -
Yes he is. Glad you recognise it at last.williamglenn said:
One of our foremost political intellectuals...TGOHF666 said:0 -
You do not raise taxes in a stressed economyBenpointer said:
Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.1 -
Mostly food - vat exemptTGOHF666 said:
Oh behave - emptied shelves with VAT at 20% is manna for the exchequer.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.0 -
Toilet paper is 20%, so the economy will be fine. Phew.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which foods in supermarkets attract VAT at 20%?TGOHF666 said:
Oh behave - emptied shelves with VAT at 20% is manna for the exchequer.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.0 -
It kills coal miners, boomers, the Chinese economy, middle-eastern oil producers, commuting to the office and air travel. Are we sure this isn't Greta Thunberg's bioweapon?another_richard said:
It will also be predominantly men who have worked in mining, heavy industry and other lung damaging occupations.2 -
Shame you couldn't find any good wineeadric said:
lolanother_richard said:
So more than ten but less than twenty.eadric said:
A lot.another_richard said:
So how many face masks, latex gloves and bottles of sanitizer do you have ?eadric said:
The only reason it won't become the new normal is because all the masks have already sold out (to people like me)geoffw said:Saw a couple wearing facemasks in Waitrose this afternoon. Could have been Chinese, oriental anyway. No one paid them any attention - this is Edinburgh, Morningside. Then on my way home saw another, jogging. I hope it doesn't become the new normal. My normalcy bias showing there.
You want actual deets?
I've got about 40 little bottles of hand sanitiser
400 disposable gloves
20 full on 3M respirator face masks
and 298 bottles of Cune Gran Reserva Rioja
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There are specific issues with the WHO calculations. This link explains them welleadric said:
WHO: ~3.4%Charles said:
Best guess - Chris Witty - is less than 1%eadric said:
But he's absolutely right. This bug has a mortality rate between 0.6 and 4.9% compared to "normal flu" - around 0.1%state_go_away said:
ok Mr Pompous manGideonWise said:
Very sorry but your last statement is absolute nonsense which negates the rest of your post.state_go_away said:
Just let it take its course with some sensible not over the top sanctions.Otherwise society will break down and we will still be fafhing around trying to stop it when its not that much dangerous than normal fluGideonWise said:
And do what then? Lock down within countries and then allow international travel to then undo the good work?state_go_away said:
Dont do it?GideonWise said:
That's the way the world works. What do you suggest as an alternative?noneoftheabove said:
Absolute nonsense. Countries vary in size from about 1000 people to 1.4 bn people. How can country level possibly be the right unit to lock down when it is so randomly varied?GideonWise said:
It's the only way to fix this thing. Lock down, isolate, quarantine. Heal the sick. Smooth the pandemic curve then develop the vaccine.Charles said:
I have been told - but I cannot verify although I trust the source - that closing all international borders is being discussed at an intergovernmental levelChameleon said:
Gosh, if I had holiday trips booked to say Rome, Como, and Spain in late March and April I'd be really quite annoyed at this turn in events...Charles said:
Less than thateadric said:CarlottaVance said:https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/1235967126613168135?s=20
BA have suspended half their LHR SIN 380 flights
We're about two weeks away from the total suspension of almost all international air traffic.
This is a new paradigm. We didnt have movement between borders like this in 1918. We will need new solutions.
The best guess at the moment is maybe 2%.
20 times more deadly.
On top of that, this bug is more more contagious than normal flu, it is already mutating into more lethal forms, it is new so no one has any immunity, and we are a year from a vaccine, at least.
Apart from that, ace comment
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/06/coronavirus-facts-what-is-the-mortality-rate-and-is-there-a-cure-covid-190 -
Considering around 95% of the empty shelves are food you're point is without merit.TGOHF666 said:
Bog roll and tin foil for hats are VAT free ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Which foods in supermarkets attract VAT at 20%?TGOHF666 said:
Oh behave - emptied shelves with VAT at 20% is manna for the exchequer.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.1 -
Wrong this time Big_G. This will be a supply side slump. Cutting taxes won't help and the government are going to need to spend big to protect citizens and businesses.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You do not raise taxes in a stressed economyBenpointer said:
Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.
Exceptional circumstances call for exceptional measures.
PS I'd focus the taxes on wealth. Let's see how many of the super-rich flee to... er, where exactly?1 -
All that excess stuff wont do you any good.eadric said:
lolanother_richard said:
So more than ten but less than twenty.eadric said:
A lot.another_richard said:
So how many face masks, latex gloves and bottles of sanitizer do you have ?eadric said:
The only reason it won't become the new normal is because all the masks have already sold out (to people like me)geoffw said:Saw a couple wearing facemasks in Waitrose this afternoon. Could have been Chinese, oriental anyway. No one paid them any attention - this is Edinburgh, Morningside. Then on my way home saw another, jogging. I hope it doesn't become the new normal. My normalcy bias showing there.
You want actual deets?
I've got about 40 little bottles of hand sanitiser
400 disposable gloves
20 full on 3M respirator face masks
and 298 bottles of Cune Gran Reserva Rioja
You would be better off distributing it to friends, family, neighbours or anyone else you're likely to come into close proximity to.0 -
Mozart's Clarinet Concerto in A Majorisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
West Life - The Way You Look Tonight
Damien Rice - The Blower's Daughter (Closer sound track)
Ella Fitzgerald - With a Song in my heart
Arvo Part - Spiegel Im Spiegel
Andy Williams - Danny Boy
Dave Brubech - Take Five
Frank Sinatra - I've Got You Under My Skin
Book - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Film - The Shawshank Redemption.
Top music track - Spiegel Im Spiegel2 -
Warren seemed to me be the only adult in the room amongst a group of geriatrics, narcissists and fuckwits......and the majority of the other candidates combined all three characteristicsAndy_JS said:
She was my preferred candidate to take on Trump. I can't explain why her campaign didn't make the impact it should have done.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.2 -
I was just listening to America by S&G. Great songRichard_Tyndall said:
Psalm by Roxy Musicisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Beethoven's Violin Concerto Opus 61
How Long Will I Love You by The Waterboys (The song of when I met my wife)
Jungle Land by Bruce Springsteen
Mozart's Laudate Dominum sung by Kiri Te Kanawa
Journey of the Sorcerer by The Eagles
Angel From Montgomery by The Tedeschi Trucks Band
America by Simon and Garfunkle
The book would be The Alexandria Quartet by Laurence Durrell
The film would be a difficult choice between Local Hero and Blade runner with the latter just edging it.
In the radio programme you can choose an object and I would choose a guitar so I can finally learn how to play properly.
I watched ‘More Than This’ the Roxy Music story yesterday. Never really got them tbh although I like a couple of the later hits0 -
And resupply is delivered by magic carpet by robots ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Considering around 95% of the empty shelves are food you're point is without merit.TGOHF666 said:
Bog roll and tin foil for hats are VAT free ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Which foods in supermarkets attract VAT at 20%?TGOHF666 said:
Oh behave - emptied shelves with VAT at 20% is manna for the exchequer.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.
Basic economics should be compulsory.
Activity is being stimulated - by simpletons.0 -
And tax cuts will assist but then I am a conservative who believes in low taxesBenpointer said:
Wrong this time Big_G. This will be a supply side slump. Cutting taxes won't help and the government are going to need to spend big to protect citizens and businesses.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You do not raise taxes in a stressed economyBenpointer said:
Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.
Exceptional circumstances call for exceptional measures.
PS I'd focus the taxes on wealth. Let's see how many of the super-rich flee to... er, where exactly?2 -
Fantastic Man - William Onyeaborisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Ghost Town - The Specials
Ripples - Genesis
Running Up That Hill (12") - Kate Bush
Ricochet (part 1) - Tangerine Dream
Shine on You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
Armagideon Times - The Clash
Swamabe - Bibi Den's Tshibayi
Book - The Complete Sherlock Holmes
Film - Apocalypse Now (Redux)
Ask me in an hour and so many would have changed......
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stjohn said:
Mozart's Clarinet Concerto in A Majorisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
West Life - The Way You Look Tonight
Damien Rice - The Blower's Daughter (Closer sound track)
Ella Fitzgerald - With a Song in my heart
Arvo Part - Spiegel Im Spiegel
Andy Williams - Danny Boy
Dave Brubech - Take Five
Frank Sinatra - I've Got You Under My Skin
Book - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Film - The Shawshank Redemption.
Top music track - Spiegel Im Spiegel
Your book choice is something that you can read from age 10 to age 90 and find something you love about it....0 -
Talking Heads does need to feature...Richard_Tyndall said:
Ach. Will You was just on the edge of my list along with something from Talking Heads. Brilliant song.Foxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.0 -
Time to think outside the box.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And tax cuts will assist but then I am a conservative who believes in low taxesBenpointer said:
Wrong this time Big_G. This will be a supply side slump. Cutting taxes won't help and the government are going to need to spend big to protect citizens and businesses.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You do not raise taxes in a stressed economyBenpointer said:
Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.
Exceptional circumstances call for exceptional measures.
PS I'd focus the taxes on wealth. Let's see how many of the super-rich flee to... er, where exactly?
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Phone in - are you dim ? Did you make a twat of it during Brexit and are about to do it all over again ?
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1236052364492234758?s=210 -
Closer is a gut wrenchingly good filmstjohn said:
Mozart's Clarinet Concerto in A Majorisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
West Life - The Way You Look Tonight
Damien Rice - The Blower's Daughter (Closer sound track)
Ella Fitzgerald - With a Song in my heart
Arvo Part - Spiegel Im Spiegel
Andy Williams - Danny Boy
Dave Brubech - Take Five
Frank Sinatra - I've Got You Under My Skin
Book - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Film - The Shawshank Redemption.
Top music track - Spiegel Im Spiegel
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Unlikely that sex or gender came into it. Warren's main problem was she was directly competing with Bernie Sanders for voters who were already lined up with him from four years ago.Alistair said:
And the reason they think she'll lose is because she's a woman.Philip_Thompson said:
No, my conclusion is that Dem voters really want to get rid of Trump.Alistair said:
There was a poll a few days go that asked Dem primary voters who they would prefer as President: over 50% of Dem primary voters selected Warren.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.
In the same poll they were asked who they were going to vote for in the primary and around 10% said Warren.
Dem primary voters are morons is my conclusion.
The primary voters aren't just deciding who they want to because they want them. They're also choosing who they want, whom they think can beat Trump in November.
If Dem voters thought Warren would lose in November then its only logical not to vote for her.
If you inverted the genders of the candidates Warren would have had this wrapped up by Super Tuesday.0 -
I think people are overstating the terribleness of Joe Biden. He may be no Amy KLOBUCHAR and he's definitely too old but apart from that he's a great candidate to take on Trump.
He's well-known and therefore hard to make stuff up about (except the dementia issue which they can turn back against Trump), not scary to moderates, associated with all Obama's progessive achievements, popular with black voters, and connects well with low-education white voters. It would have been better if he'd run last time, but he's still a solid pick.1 -
Cutting taxes is outside the box BenBenpointer said:
Time to think outside the box.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And tax cuts will assist but then I am a conservative who believes in low taxesBenpointer said:
Wrong this time Big_G. This will be a supply side slump. Cutting taxes won't help and the government are going to need to spend big to protect citizens and businesses.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You do not raise taxes in a stressed economyBenpointer said:
Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.
Exceptional circumstances call for exceptional measures.
PS I'd focus the taxes on wealth. Let's see how many of the super-rich flee to... er, where exactly?0 -
I'm listening to my top music track Spiegel Im Spiegel now. I'm addicted to it. So simple and so poignant. It was the soundtrack to the brilliant film starring Emma Thompson - "Wit".tyson said:stjohn said:
Mozart's Clarinet Concerto in A Majorisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
West Life - The Way You Look Tonight
Damien Rice - The Blower's Daughter (Closer sound track)
Ella Fitzgerald - With a Song in my heart
Arvo Part - Spiegel Im Spiegel
Andy Williams - Danny Boy
Dave Brubech - Take Five
Frank Sinatra - I've Got You Under My Skin
Book - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Film - The Shawshank Redemption.
Top music track - Spiegel Im Spiegel
Your book choice is something that you can read from age 10 to age 90 and find something you love about it....1 -
Mysticrose said:
Tesla are in some trouble. I won't go into this in detail here but there has been a lot of shorting of Tesla stock.Monkeys said:
His lungs are already iron, much like his hair is purest silicon.eadric said:
What they have going for them is an alleged 4 year headstart on EV's but that's about where the good news ends right now.
Others may disagree but at $700 a share, down from $925 peak they are still way over-priced in my opinion.
I saw a lower control arm from a Tesla 3 recently. It was the cheapest shittest stamped steel with plastic webbing and a weight (presumably for damping) cable tied to it at the factory.
The key competitive advantage they still have is their charging infrastructure because the product is no longer anything special.0 -
Armagidion time by the Clash is a good choice, and Apocalypse NowMarqueeMark said:
Fantastic Man - William Onyeaborisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Ghost Town - The Specials
Ripples - Genesis
Running Up That Hill (12") - Kate Bush
Ricochet (part 1) - Tangerine Dream
Shine on You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
Armagideon Times - The Clash
Swamabe - Bibi Den's Tshibayi
Book - The Complete Sherlock Holmes
Film - Apocalypse Now (Redux)
Ask me in an hour and so many would have changed......
Ultimately though, if watching one film repeatedly, it has to be Groundhog Day.0 -
My mum used to do the washing up listening to Sade’s Diamond Life album. Interesting track to choose from Floyd. I used to love the early stuff but now prefer The WallFoxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.0 -
It's right in the middle of the Tory economic policy box Big_G but we'll have to disagree.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Cutting taxes is outside the box BenBenpointer said:
Time to think outside the box.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And tax cuts will assist but then I am a conservative who believes in low taxesBenpointer said:
Wrong this time Big_G. This will be a supply side slump. Cutting taxes won't help and the government are going to need to spend big to protect citizens and businesses.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You do not raise taxes in a stressed economyBenpointer said:
Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.
Exceptional circumstances call for exceptional measures.
PS I'd focus the taxes on wealth. Let's see how many of the super-rich flee to... er, where exactly?0 -
Wow- I would put D..."Crime and Punishment" as my book.....but definitely Groundhog Day......Foxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.
For simplicity...for 8 or so tracks... I would take Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division....or
The Stone Roses (first album)....
Depending on my mood
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Businesses unable to operate as do many workers are self isolating will have problems enough with their balance sheets without being hit by business taxes.Benpointer said:
Wrong this time Big_G. This will be a supply side slump. Cutting taxes won't help and the government are going to need to spend big to protect citizens and businesses.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You do not raise taxes in a stressed economyBenpointer said:
Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.
Exceptional circumstances call for exceptional measures.
PS I'd focus the taxes on wealth. Let's see how many of the super-rich flee to... er, where exactly?
More money is going to need to go into the NHS for the minority affected with side effects related to breathing etc and compensation for businesses and workers hit by self isolation.
So yes any taxes raised should be focused on high value assets and taxes should then be cut once the outbreak is over to get the economy going again0 -
Covid doesn’t feature top billing on the Express nor Star tomorrow..0
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When it came down to the last three yes, but before that you had loads of younger, competent candidates: Booker, Harris, KLOBUCHAR, Delaney...tyson said:
Warren seemed to me be the only adult in the room amongst a group of geriatrics, narcissists and fuckwits......and the majority of the other candidates combined all three characteristicsAndy_JS said:
She was my preferred candidate to take on Trump. I can't explain why her campaign didn't make the impact it should have done.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.0 -
Never mind spotify, I have an iPod. So I don’t need to choose just eight songs.isam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
The book I’d choose is Fernand Braudel’s Structures Of Everyday Life.
The film? Rear Window.0 -
The poll I'm quoting said over 50% of Dem voters would choose Warren to be president out of all of the potential candidates.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Unlikely that sex or gender came into it. Warren's main problem was she was directly competing with Bernie Sanders for voters who were already lined up with him from four years ago.Alistair said:
And the reason they think she'll lose is because she's a woman.Philip_Thompson said:
No, my conclusion is that Dem voters really want to get rid of Trump.Alistair said:
There was a poll a few days go that asked Dem primary voters who they would prefer as President: over 50% of Dem primary voters selected Warren.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.
In the same poll they were asked who they were going to vote for in the primary and around 10% said Warren.
Dem primary voters are morons is my conclusion.
The primary voters aren't just deciding who they want to because they want them. They're also choosing who they want, whom they think can beat Trump in November.
If Dem voters thought Warren would lose in November then its only logical not to vote for her.
If you inverted the genders of the candidates Warren would have had this wrapped up by Super Tuesday.
That's an absolute majority.0 -
I agree, Biden connects with white working class and black voters better than any of the other candidates who were in the field and it was underperformance with those voters that saw Hillary lose in 2016.edmundintokyo said:I think people are overstating the terribleness of Joe Biden. He may be no Amy KLOBUCHAR and he's definitely too old but apart from that he's a great candidate to take on Trump.
He's well-known and therefore hard to make stuff up about (except the dementia issue which they can turn back against Trump), not scary to moderates, associated with all Obama's progessive achievements, popular with black voters, and connects well with low-education white voters. It would have been better if he'd run last time, but he's still a solid pick.
A Biden Buttigieg or Biden Klobuchar ticket could beat Trump, though I would not count out POTUS either and he will shift ground if he needs to e.g. with a big healthcare plan
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Diamond Life is one of those rare perfect albums with no dud tracks.isam said:
My mum used to do the washing up listening to Sade’s Diamond Life album. Interesting track to choose from Floyd. I used to love the early stuff but now prefer The WallFoxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.
I love early Floyd and highly recommend Nick Masons "Saucer Full of Secrets" band, touring at the moment. They don't play anything after Atom Heart Mother.0 -
So why have you still got it ?eadric said:
Why do you think I bought so much?another_richard said:
All that excess stuff wont do you any good.eadric said:
lolanother_richard said:
So more than ten but less than twenty.eadric said:
A lot.another_richard said:
So how many face masks, latex gloves and bottles of sanitizer do you have ?eadric said:
The only reason it won't become the new normal is because all the masks have already sold out (to people like me)geoffw said:Saw a couple wearing facemasks in Waitrose this afternoon. Could have been Chinese, oriental anyway. No one paid them any attention - this is Edinburgh, Morningside. Then on my way home saw another, jogging. I hope it doesn't become the new normal. My normalcy bias showing there.
You want actual deets?
I've got about 40 little bottles of hand sanitiser
400 disposable gloves
20 full on 3M respirator face masks
and 298 bottles of Cune Gran Reserva Rioja
You would be better off distributing it to friends, family, neighbours or anyone else you're likely to come into close proximity to.
To give to family and close friends who said, about three weeks ago, that I was being a mad, paranoid drama queen. They're not saying that any more.
(Tho I am keeping the wine. F*ck 'em)
Are you sure you're not becoming a little bit Gollum ?0 -
I would broadly agree with that. Let's not run up a >£100bn deficit again to get us through this looming recession.HYUFD said:
Businesses unable to operate as do many workers are self isolating will have problems enough with their balance sheets without being hit by business taxes.Benpointer said:
Wrong this time Big_G. This will be a supply side slump. Cutting taxes won't help and the government are going to need to spend big to protect citizens and businesses.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You do not raise taxes in a stressed economyBenpointer said:
Time to raise taxes.Philip_Thompson said:The damage this is doing to the economy is going to be mammoth, but hopefully temporary.
It won't be said on Wednesday but we might see Gordon Brown-style deficit soon. A £100bn+ deficit over the next 12 months is quite imaginable.
Exceptional circumstances call for exceptional measures.
PS I'd focus the taxes on wealth. Let's see how many of the super-rich flee to... er, where exactly?
More money is going to need to go into the NHS for the minority affected with side effects related to breathing etc and compensation for businesses and workers hit by self isolation.
So yes any taxes raised should be focused on high value assets and taxes should then be cut once the outbreak is over to get the economy going again1 -
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Mad Man Moon from the same album is even better.eadric said:
Ripples is such a marvellous, and oddly neglected song. Good choice.MarqueeMark said:
Fantastic Man - William Onyeaborisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Ghost Town - The Specials
Ripples - Genesis
Running Up That Hill (12") - Kate Bush
Ricochet (part 1) - Tangerine Dream
Shine on You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
Armagideon Times - The Clash
Swamabe - Bibi Den's Tshibayi
Book - The Complete Sherlock Holmes
Film - Apocalypse Now (Redux)
Ask me in an hour and so many would have changed......0 -
American presidents back as far as Carter have almost all had a certain relatability - they have fitted, one way or another, a template that is easier for a male politician to fall into. The focused professionalism of the Clinton / Warren generation of female politicians doesn't do well in a system where the choice is made almost entirely on the razzamatazz of a candidate's campaigning. Obama, of course, pulled off the near unique trick of being laser focussed and relatable simultaneously.tyson said:
Warren seemed to me be the only adult in the room amongst a group of geriatrics, narcissists and fuckwits......and the majority of the other candidates combined all three characteristicsAndy_JS said:
She was my preferred candidate to take on Trump. I can't explain why her campaign didn't make the impact it should have done.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.1 -
That book (or books) looks fascinating Alastair. Is it hard work though? I'm afraid I give up too easily on books as I get older.AlastairMeeks said:
Never mind spotify, I have an iPod. So I don’t need to choose just eight songs.isam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
The book I’d choose is Fernand Braudel’s Structures Of Everyday Life.
The film? Rear Window.0 -
Crime and Punishment gets going rather more quickly than the Brothers, and would be on my shortlist.tyson said:
Wow- I would put D..."Crime and Punishment" as my book.....but definitely Groundhog Day......Foxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.
For simplicity...for 8 or so tracks... I would take Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division....or
The Stone Roses (first album)....
Depending on my mood
The Stone Roses is another on my list of perfect albums without a dud track.0 -
Rear Window just makes me anxious...right from the start to the end....it still amazes me now watching it how a mortal human being could have made such a brilliant film..it reaches into the depth of your mind and fucks with it for 2 hours or so....AlastairMeeks said:
Never mind spotify, I have an iPod. So I don’t need to choose just eight songs.isam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
The book I’d choose is Fernand Braudel’s Structures Of Everyday Life.
The film? Rear Window.
Sadly I wouldn't want it anywhere near me on a Desert Island....
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Indeed, the key characteristic of most winning American presidents is not intelligence or wealth but charisma and the ability to relate to the average AmericanPro_Rata said:
American presidents back as far as Carter have almost all had a certain relatability - they have fitted, one way or another, a template that is easier for a male politician to fall into. The focused professionalism of the Clinton / Warren generation of female politicians doesn't do well in a system where the choice is made almost entirely on the razzamatazz of a candidate's campaigning. Obama, of course, pulled off the near unique trick of being laser focussed and relatable simultaneously.tyson said:
Warren seemed to me be the only adult in the room amongst a group of geriatrics, narcissists and fuckwits......and the majority of the other candidates combined all three characteristicsAndy_JS said:
She was my preferred candidate to take on Trump. I can't explain why her campaign didn't make the impact it should have done.Cyclefree said:God Almighty!
Please can we talk about something else, even if briefly.
Why Warren - despite being about the only person campaigning who knew how her sentences were going to end when she started them - ended up failing so miserably? For instance.
Was she too sharp? Misogyny? Particular policies? Am curious.0 -
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Having a listen now... the only one I remember from that album is Fat old Suneadric said:
Summer '68 from Atom Heart Mother always makes me slightly choke, and I don't quite know whyFoxy said:
Diamond Life is one of those rare perfect albums with no dud tracks.isam said:
My mum used to do the washing up listening to Sade’s Diamond Life album. Interesting track to choose from Floyd. I used to love the early stuff but now prefer The WallFoxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.
I love early Floyd and highly recommend Nick Masons "Saucer Full of Secrets" band, touring at the moment. They don't play anything after Atom Heart Mother.
Sounds like a Rick Wright number
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Off topic: the answer to the previous threadheader question appears to be 24 hours.
Looks like the resot of the country is not as obsessed with corvid-19 as we PBers are.0 -
It’s the first of a trilogy. The first is by some way the best. It’s also the least pretentious.stjohn said:
That book (or books) looks fascinating Alastair. Is it hard work though? I'm afraid I give up too easily on books as I get older.AlastairMeeks said:
Never mind spotify, I have an iPod. So I don’t need to choose just eight songs.isam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
The book I’d choose is Fernand Braudel’s Structures Of Everyday Life.
The film? Rear Window.
It changed the way I look at things. Few books do that. Its extraordinariness is hidden by how much its arguments have changed the thinking of others.0 -
Am I a bit weird for actually liking Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast?isam said:
Having a listen now... the only one I remember from that album is Fat old Suneadric said:
Summer '68 from Atom Heart Mother always makes me slightly choke, and I don't quite know whyFoxy said:
Diamond Life is one of those rare perfect albums with no dud tracks.isam said:
My mum used to do the washing up listening to Sade’s Diamond Life album. Interesting track to choose from Floyd. I used to love the early stuff but now prefer The WallFoxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.
I love early Floyd and highly recommend Nick Masons "Saucer Full of Secrets" band, touring at the moment. They don't play anything after Atom Heart Mother.
Sounds like a Rick Wright number0 -
Songs of Faith and Devotion - Depeche Modeeadric said:
Summer '68 from Atom Heart Mother always makes me slightly choke, and I don't quite know whyFoxy said:
Diamond Life is one of those rare perfect albums with no dud tracks.isam said:
My mum used to do the washing up listening to Sade’s Diamond Life album. Interesting track to choose from Floyd. I used to love the early stuff but now prefer The WallFoxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.
I love early Floyd and highly recommend Nick Masons "Saucer Full of Secrets" band, touring at the moment. They don't play anything after Atom Heart Mother.0 -
Post it out to them.eadric said:
Jesus F Christ. I will give it out when I see them (and when some of them have gotten over their embarrassment at laughing at me 3 weeks back). Satisfied?another_richard said:
So why have you still got it ?eadric said:
Why do you think I bought so much?another_richard said:
All that excess stuff wont do you any good.eadric said:
lolanother_richard said:
So more than ten but less than twenty.eadric said:
A lot.another_richard said:
So how many face masks, latex gloves and bottles of sanitizer do you have ?eadric said:
The only reason it won't become the new normal is because all the masks have already sold out (to people like me)geoffw said:Saw a couple wearing facemasks in Waitrose this afternoon. Could have been Chinese, oriental anyway. No one paid them any attention - this is Edinburgh, Morningside. Then on my way home saw another, jogging. I hope it doesn't become the new normal. My normalcy bias showing there.
You want actual deets?
I've got about 40 little bottles of hand sanitiser
400 disposable gloves
20 full on 3M respirator face masks
and 298 bottles of Cune Gran Reserva Rioja
You would be better off distributing it to friends, family, neighbours or anyone else you're likely to come into close proximity to.
To give to family and close friends who said, about three weeks ago, that I was being a mad, paranoid drama queen. They're not saying that any more.
(Tho I am keeping the wine. F*ck 'em)
Are you sure you're not becoming a little bit Gollum ?
Would be a bit ironic if by the time you see them they are already infected and they then infect you.0 -
The brilliance of Rear Window is how the hero and heroine would be utterly unlikeable if they weren’t James Stewart and Grace Kelly. He’s a creep and she’s a snob. But it’s James Stewart and Grace Kelly so they’re adorable.tyson said:
Rear Window just makes me anxious...right from the start to the end....it still amazes me now watching it how a mortal human being could have made such a brilliant film..it reaches into the depth of your mind and fucks with it for 2 hours or so....AlastairMeeks said:
Never mind spotify, I have an iPod. So I don’t need to choose just eight songs.isam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
The book I’d choose is Fernand Braudel’s Structures Of Everyday Life.
The film? Rear Window.
Sadly I wouldn't want it anywhere near me on a Desert Island....0 -
Newsnight: footfall in London down 30%
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If my maths is right, excluding that day the China methodology changed, today is the single biggest increases in cases. 4k today, so far.0
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PB.com is a hive of bedwetters.Benpointer said:Off topic: the answer to the previous threadheader question appears to be 24 hours.
Looks like the resot of the country is not as obsessed with corvid-19 as we PBers are.0 -
I love the redemption in Crime and Punishment.....Foxy said:
Crime and Punishment gets going rather more quickly than the Brothers, and would be on my shortlist.tyson said:
Wow- I would put D..."Crime and Punishment" as my book.....but definitely Groundhog Day......Foxy said:
Me and Bobby McGee: Janis Joplinisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
Will You?: Hazel O'Connor
Smooth Operator: Sade
Ring of Fire: Johnny Cash
Back to Black: Amy Whitehouse
Throw Down the Sword: Wishbone Ash
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun: Pink Floyd
100 years From Now: The Byrds
The Brothers Karamazov: Dostoevsky
Groundhog Day
Though I would give a different answer most days.
Music is a great trigger of memories, so the songs are more significant at promoting these than the best or greatest.
For simplicity...for 8 or so tracks... I would take Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division....or
The Stone Roses (first album)....
Depending on my mood
The Stone Roses is another on my list of perfect albums without a dud track.
Groundhog Day is...what can you say......
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Women's Six Nations: Scotland v France postponed after home player tests positive for coronavirus
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/517776210 -
Classical musicisam said:To change the mood a little... what would be your Desert island (or home quarantine) discs?
8 songs, a book and a film
1. Messiah
2. Hadyn’s Creation
3. Shostakovich Waltz No 2
4. Elgar’s Salut d’Amour as played by Aldo Ciccolino
5. Mozart’s Requiem
6. Puccini’s Tosca
7. Marriage of Figaro
8. Louis Alvanis playing Brahms Hungarian Dances for piano. The last track on that - Themes and Variations in D minor - is a masterpiece.
Non classical music
Book: Vanity Fair
Film: Cinema Paradiso / The Leopard / Some Like it Hot1
