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Has Corbyn investigated every single case of anti-semitism in the Labour Party?0
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She has a schedule to stick to and so Johnson is able to avoid answering questions.0
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Johnson sounding like an utter tool now. You can't bring every issue back to Corbyn on Brexit whilst not answering questions about your own terrible position about trust0
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This question has gone on for way too long.0
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Not with this presenter - scolding the leaders - signalling her virtue.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect nobody will bother watching any more of these debates
Depressing
It’s not about you love.0 -
Take it up with Ofcomnichomar said:
It should never have been a two way debate a disgrace to democracyydoethur said:
That thought is enough to make the rest of us despair further though.kle4 said:Trust and leadership up next. This could get brutal.
But it is a stupid question - lots of people are not in despair, and do trust Boris/Corbyn.0 -
Boris beginning to flail here.0
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Boris is not answering the questions but I think he is coming across better than Corbyn.0
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Boris agrees with Jeremy apparently.0
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Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else0
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"...and Prince Andrew".
WhawhaWHAT? I can't wait to see them trying to decide to attack him or not0 -
I'm looking forward to the 7 way debate on 29 Nov!
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Yes, a bit forced.RochdalePioneers said:Johnson sounding like an utter tool now. You can't bring every issue back to Corbyn on Brexit whilst not answering questions about your own terrible position about trust
Although not as forced as getting them to shake hands, that's some lame political theatre. Notice Boris made sure to be the first to move.1 -
I think Corbyn will win this. Doing Brexit first was a mistake.0
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It has only been on brexit so farCorrectHorseBattery said:Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else
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Then what’s Corbyn doing there?bigjohnowls said:
Parties in single figures % wise are not relevant to who is PM on 13.12.19nichomar said:
It should never have been a two way debate a disgrace to democracyydoethur said:
That thought is enough to make the rest of us despair further though.kle4 said:Trust and leadership up next. This could get brutal.
But it is a stupid question - lots of people are not in despair, and do trust Boris/Corbyn.0 -
Well of course you do!CorrectHorseBattery said:I think Corbyn will win this. Doing Brexit first was a mistake.
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It's a Brexit election.CorrectHorseBattery said:Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else
How do you feel about another referendum on it?0 -
Hmmm... I can’t see this shifting many opinions.0
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He's practised that line and sounds confident with it. I think it was quite effective in not giving an answer. He's being let off the hook. No pressure being placed on him.RochdalePioneers said:Johnson sounding like an utter tool now. You can't bring every issue back to Corbyn on Brexit whilst not answering questions about your own terrible position about trust
Corbyn is mangling all his prepared debating points.0 -
Boris doing well - my fuck the snp vote is still going to labour though (Aberdeen north)0
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Bozo didn’t look good trying to attack Corbyn instead of addressing the integrity question back there.
Why is Bozo fixated on how many Tory candidates there are? He’s mentioned that factoid three times already.0 -
Well, he should. Because anyone should.TOPPING said:I think Corbyn edges it on integrity. He sticks to his beliefs. What those beliefs are might not be to anyone's tastes, nor have they been tested by the responsibility of power, but he must win on integrity vs Johnson of all people.
Disturbingly, he won’t. Because he’s just as bad.0 -
Terrible debate. I'm not bothering with the 2nd half.0
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He has expelled Anti Semites from the Party unlike the Tories with their Islamaphobes like Jester.TOPPING said:Has Corbyn investigated every single case of anti-semitism in the Labour Party?
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Wales 1-0 up at half-time
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Johnson wants it to be a Brexit election.TOPPING said:
It's a Brexit election.CorrectHorseBattery said:Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else
How do you feel about another referendum on it?
He isn't going to get his wish.0 -
You watching ITV-1?CorrectHorseBattery said:Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else
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Why? She can only be better than these two.Flashy4 said:
She’s being pretty rude back. Now she’s on a monologue- shut up FFS.ydoethur said:
A pair of misogynists behaving rudely towards a woman?LostPassword said:
She's trying to get them to answer questions, or allow the other to answer a question and they're ignoring her.Drutt said:
Come again?LostPassword said:The men aren't listening to the woman who's trying to direct the debate.
I’m shocked, I tell you. Shocked.0 -
Boris was super strong early on pressuring Corbyn on his Brexit position, but i have a feeling it is wearing thin now and pushing it much further could come back to bite Boris.0
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Corbyn started stiffly but has warmed up well. Johnson started smoothly but ended up completely ignoring the question about integrity in the face of laughter. Corbyn ahead on points for people interested in politics, but no killer answers yet.0
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Yes, although I think you've been pretty clearly of the view you would likely think he had won before hand.CorrectHorseBattery said:I think Corbyn will win this. Doing Brexit first was a mistake.
No it hasn't, and Corbyn was a lot better on what leadership means (even though in practice he is a poor leader).Big_G_NorthWales said:
It has only been on brexit so farCorrectHorseBattery said:Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else
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Julie Etchingham is becoming the story and frankly is poor
Emma Barnett would be much better0 -
He will.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Johnson wants it to be a Brexit election.TOPPING said:
It's a Brexit election.CorrectHorseBattery said:Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else
How do you feel about another referendum on it?
He isn't going to get his wish.0 -
Just been out for a meal with my wife, we should have stayed in the pub.
Etchingham cutting both of them off too quickly, and so far I haven't seen anything which suggests that Corbyn or Johnson have what it takes in a political crisis. Questions seem juvenile and weak.
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Every bit as painful as we anticipated. Boris has been ruthless in emphasising Corbyn’s refusal to say how he will campaign on Brexit but he is somewhat undermined by his refusal to answer questions on anything else.1
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Remember lots of people won't diligently sit through the whole hour.
Many will join / leave in progress.
Hard to see the first half moving any discernible number of votes.0 -
Let's have a laugh when the small party leaders get interviewed at 10.
#SuperJo0 -
Boring 0 0 at half time0
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I think MysticRose has been stood down.GideonWise said:
Are you MysticRose?CorrectHorseBattery said:Thoughts so far?
I think Johnson started off well but he's going into bully mode0 -
If i were advising him I'd say tone the Brexit stuff down a bit for the next couple of questions, then finish big with it - he needs people to focus on it, but he cannot force every response to be about it.MilesPartridge said:Boris was super strong early on pressuring Corbyn on his Brexit position, but i have a feeling it is wearing thin now and pushing it much further could come back to bite Boris.
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Here we go, NHS. This should definitely be Corbyns turf.0
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Do you know I thought that! 😂MarqueeMark said:
I think MysticRose has been stood down.GideonWise said:
Are you MysticRose?CorrectHorseBattery said:Thoughts so far?
I think Johnson started off well but he's going into bully mode0 -
This is what always happens. Too many questions not enough depth.Flashy4 said:A big dawg barks..
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NHS? Well, I'll given this round to Corbyn right now. Boris could promise 100bn more a year and not win on it and I doubt Boris can pull off the sad grandapa tone of Corbyn.0
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Why are Nicola Sturgeon and Nigel Farage being interviewed? Neither are standing for Parliament. It should be the Fat Laird for the SNP and whoever is the Brexit Party's "lead" candidate.0
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Every single case?bigjohnowls said:
He has expelled Anti Semites from the Party unlike the Tories with their Islamaphobes like Jester.TOPPING said:Has Corbyn investigated every single case of anti-semitism in the Labour Party?
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Definitely Corbyn improved as it went on, but feels to me that Johnson did better overall.
Corbyn not explaining his Brexit policy well at all. He does better when he seems calmer.0 -
LOL!MarqueeMark said:
You watching ITV-1?CorrectHorseBattery said:Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else
Will CHB still be here after 10pm on 12/12/19?
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Why isn’t Corbyn focussing on Tory cuts on the NHS and how the Brexit ‘dividend’ is nowhere near enough.0
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I think he's assuming he's going to win and wants to make sure none of them think about rebelling.IanB2 said:Bozo didn’t look good trying to attack Corbyn instead of addressing the integrity question back there.
Why is Bozo fixated on how many Tory candidates there are? He’s mentioned that factoid three times already.0 -
Come on, if he did that he'd been leading a hamlet, not a political partyTOPPING said:
Every single case?bigjohnowls said:
He has expelled Anti Semites from the Party unlike the Tories with their Islamaphobes like Jester.TOPPING said:Has Corbyn investigated every single case of anti-semitism in the Labour Party?
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Bozo more decisive v Corbyn more likeable .
It’s far too rushed though , if you’re going to have a debate do it properly .0 -
Strong NHS response from Jez. ETCHINGHAM CUTTING BORIS OFF AGAIN0
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Give it time. Probably waiting for Boris to mention Brexit.Gallowgate said:Why isn’t Corbyn focussing on Tory cuts on the NHS and how the Brexit ‘dividend’ is nowhere near enough.
I'd almost prefer not to have questions on the NHS just to avoid the overdone paeans at the start.0 -
Corbyn winning now0
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Good. Everything he says is vacuous.Drutt said:Strong NHS response from Jez. ETCHINGHAM CUTTING BORIS OFF AGAIN
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Andrew Neil correct - no need for all these interruptions.
Let them both speak at greater length.0 -
Utter nonsense from Etchingham. She has lost it0
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Wait, didn't you say he was winning earlier?CorrectHorseBattery said:Corbyn winning now
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Anne widdecombe riding a shire horseNorthCadboll said:Why are Nicola Sturgeon and Nigel Farage being interviewed? Neither are standing for Parliament. It should be the Fat Laird for the SNP and whoever is the Brexit Party's "lead" candidate.
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No he wasn't winning at the beginningRobD said:0 -
The British public wants it to be a Brexit election.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Johnson wants it to be a Brexit election.TOPPING said:
It's a Brexit election.CorrectHorseBattery said:Brexit is weak for Corbyn - but Corbyn won on everything else
How do you feel about another referendum on it?
He isn't going to get his wish.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/11/07/which-issues-will-decide-general-election0 -
Were there any odds on "no money left" ?0
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He's "super winning" now apparently!RobD said:0 -
You said he was winning on the non-Brexit bits.CorrectHorseBattery said:
No he wasn't winning at the beginningRobD said:
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more laughing at Corbyn0
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4-day NHS!0
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Audience laughing at Corbyn's 4 day week0
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It produces soundbites to be transmitted on the main news programmes and on social media. The news bulletins cleave to impartiality guidelines and show wins and losses for both participants. The online stuff is for consumption within various echo-chambers inhabited by those who have already made up their minds.DavidL said:
This is what always happens. Too many questions not enough depth.Flashy4 said:A big dawg barks..
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1196887327798448129?s=21
Hopefully this means it will make no real difference, except to allow Johnson to claim that he hasn't run away like May did.0 -
Impossible, he and Formby are both still there.TOPPING said:
Every single case?bigjohnowls said:
He has expelled Anti Semites from the Party unlike the Tories with their Islamaphobes like Jester.TOPPING said:Has Corbyn investigated every single case of anti-semitism in the Labour Party?
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Corbyn is a moron - get him off
Come back SuperJo - please!1 -
Well he was - but that doesn't contradict what I said. Corbyn didn't start off winning.RobD said:
You said he was winning on the non-Brexit bits.CorrectHorseBattery said:
No he wasn't winning at the beginningRobD said:0 -
Well I think it ended on a non-Brexit question, but there you go.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Well he was - but that doesn't contradict what I said. Corbyn didn't start off winning.RobD said:
You said he was winning on the non-Brexit bits.CorrectHorseBattery said:
No he wasn't winning at the beginningRobD said:0 -
Poor timekeeping being imposed, as it doesn't allow full answers.0
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Chuckles at 4-day week, chuckles at 40 new hospitals. One-all.
ETCHINGHAM CUTTING BORIS OFF AGAIN0 -
Emma Barnett would be absolute gold on this.Big_G_NorthWales said:Julie Etchingham is becoming the story and frankly is poor
Emma Barnett would be much better0 -
I assume there's a laughter counter somewhere. No audiences in debates, please. What do they add?1
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But it makes it so easy to avoid a question. You simply talk down the clock.Black_Rook said:
It produces soundbites to be transmitted on the main news programmes and on social media. The news bulletins cleave to impartiality guidelines and show wins and losses for both participants. The online stuff is for consumption within various echo-chambers inhabited by those who have already made up their minds.DavidL said:
This is what always happens. Too many questions not enough depth.Flashy4 said:A big dawg barks..
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1196887327798448129?s=21
Hopefully this means it will make no real difference, except to allow Johnson to claim that he hasn't run away like May did.1 -
This is just bollocks bloody disgrace Johnson now goes solve the nhs by getting brexit done0
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Prob should have been 90 minutes to allow for longer answers. Who would stick around for 90 minutes is another question.MarqueeMark said:Poor timekeeping being imposed, as it doesn't allow full answers.
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I think this "get Brexit done" thing is backfiring0
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Boris makes clear nobody will have to sell their home for personal social care under him0
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CCHQ have changd their twitter handle to "FactCheckUK". Very naughty.
https://twitter.com/CCHQPress
https://twitter.com/CCHQPress/status/11968915063905525760 -
What makes you think that?CorrectHorseBattery said:I think this "get Brexit done" thing is backfiring
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Not really if it's the only slogan people are talking about...CorrectHorseBattery said:I think this "get Brexit done" thing is backfiring
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All anyone wants to talk about on Twitter.Chameleon said:CCHQ have changd their twitter handle to "FactCheckUK". Very naughty.
https://twitter.com/CCHQPress
https://twitter.com/CCHQPress/status/1196891506390552576
I assume that was the point...0 -
What a shock.CorrectHorseBattery said:I think this "get Brexit done" thing is backfiring
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Boris avoids May's social care bear trap.0
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And you'll probably keep thinking that right up till December 13th...CorrectHorseBattery said:I think this "get Brexit done" thing is backfiring
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Most of the hour wasted by the presenter shouting “Mr Johnson Mr Johnson”RobD said:
Prob should have been 90 minutes to allow for longer answers. Who would stick around for 90 minutes is another question.MarqueeMark said:Poor timekeeping being imposed, as it doesn't allow full answers.
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You're as biased as me dude.BluerBlue said:
And you'll probably keep thinking that right up till December 13th...CorrectHorseBattery said:I think this "get Brexit done" thing is backfiring
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Silly election giveaways - funny that they will have to defend that by mentioning their giveaways.0
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PB Tories moaning about the ref.1
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One person?SandyRentool said:PB Tories moaning about the ref.
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And some non PB Tories, if I am not mistaken.SandyRentool said:PB Tories moaning about the ref.
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Woman in audience makes crucial point about the fact that nether of them have ever had to work properly for a living.
Jez drones on pointlessly. Boris blusters.
Can we put the questioner in charge instead?0 -
I am not even watching it, but I know who is telling porkies in the comments.. You just get a sixth sense.0
