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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,870
    edited November 2019
    RobD said:

    Oh. Sturgeon just got a tough question, and she fudged it.

    For the benefit of those not watching, what was it?
    If Brexit were to be revoked or cancelled via another referendum, is there still a “material change” which justifies a second (Indy) referendum.

    Of course she had to say yes, but she looked uncomfortable.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,884
    RobD said:

    nico67 said:

    Interesting YouGov have another question worded differently which has them both been seen as performing well but Corbyn beats Bozo.

    Corbyn well 67 badly 32

    Bozo well 59 badly 42

    So how that then changes with the overall performance to 51 v 49 for Bozo seems strange , seems to me some voters were biased and wanted to give the win to him regardless.

    "Bless him, didn't he do well" in the patronising sense.
    Good game good game( this politics lark)

    Nothing for a pair (of numpties ) in this game

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    MattWMattW Posts: 18,663

    Oh. Sturgeon just got a tough question, and she fudged it.

    Fudge is a local issue here.

    Thorntons Factory :-)
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,749
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,762
    Quincel said:

    nico67 said:

    Interesting YouGov have another question worded differently which has them both been seen as performing well but Corbyn beats Bozo.

    Corbyn well 67 badly 32

    Bozo well 59 badly 42

    So how that then changes with the overall performance to 51 v 49 for Bozo seems strange , seems to me some voters were biased and wanted to give the win to him regardless.

    I don't understand how those questions can both be true either. I guess maybe some people were saying Corbyn did well compared to expectations but didn't win? Seems a stretch.
    I didn’t bother watching, but given that the audience reportedly laughed at both men during the debate, those polled perhaps didn’t feel impelled to take the questions too seriously ?

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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489
    Is there any indication of how many people watched the debate?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,884

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    My leader did better than yours. No he didn't. Yes he did...

    Pantomime season started early this year I see.

    Well in Boris’s case he’s certainly behind you! And he’ll hopefully stay there.
    Were we not witnessing the two ugly sisters?
    Possibly but the role of Cinderella has yet to be cast.
    Swinson is surely Cinderella although this panto is unlikely to have the usual ending.

    Farage as Prince Charming, or more likely the Frog (or is that a different fairytale?)


    Mind you she did fall for a Prince hope it wasnt Andrew at a dodgy party
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    kle4 said:

    BBC 10pm news from a parallel universe where Boris wiped the floor with Corbyn.

    What did they say/show?
    It was a fair attempt to clip it, but by definition that’s a lot of Corbyn being asked a Brexit question and not answering it, while there was a Boris rebuttal to any point aimed at him. Emphasised for me what Boris was trying to do, to be honest.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,884

    Alistair said:

    Alistair said:

    How did people do with Buzzword bingo?

    Scored on the “oven ready” free money but bitterly disappointed with Corbyn failing to talk about a “disasterous Tory Brexit”. I won’t easily forgive him for that.
    Also badly stung by that. Thought it was a banker.
    Corbyn single handedly took my hourly earnings down to £8. Below minimum wage! And I had to watch that crap on the tv.

    The Tories can have that for free for their campaign posters.
    You didnt have to watch it.

    You would still get the £8
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    MattWMattW Posts: 18,663
    edited November 2019

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    My leader did better than yours. No he didn't. Yes he did...

    Pantomime season started early this year I see.

    Well in Boris’s case he’s certainly behind you! And he’ll hopefully stay there.
    Were we not witnessing the two ugly sisters?
    Possibly but the role of Cinderella has yet to be cast.
    Swinson is surely Cinderella although this panto is unlikely to have the usual ending.

    Farage as Prince Charming, or more likely the Frog (or is that a different fairytale?)
    Swinson as Cinderella is good.

    Which Frog is this?

    Surely the Frog Who Would a-Wooing Go is Boris?

    With a Roly-Poly Gammon & Spinach? Hey Ho says Anthony Rowley !

    Can't decide whether Farage or Corbyn has turned into a Pumpkin.

    Hopefully Blackford will fall in a puddle right up to his middle.
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    Nigelb said:
    I would think that they would be silly to do so. China is a competitor and the USA a market

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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    isam said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:
    So Corbyn did better relative to the pre-debate expectations
    Depends whose expectations you mean. A great many people, here and elsewhere, said he would do fine, or even well, despite his terrible personal ratings. The expectations were not as low as they might have appeared.
    He was favourite to win it

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    Johnson was favourite on Ladbrokes.
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    DruttDrutt Posts: 1,093
    Jo Swinson on ITV1 now sounding markedly less Scottish than usual.

    Told you. This is what will run and run from the debate.
    *Andrew Neil voice*

    "Mr Corbyn, yesterday you told the nation that you took AS seriously. You said that you'd dealt with all your Jew-haters, but we've seen that the truth is that you let them off. You said that you abhor racism, and yet you regularly take to the stage with people who want to push the Jews into the sea, you don't throw antisemites out of the party, and almost nine in ten UK Jews think you're anti-Semitic yourself. It's a three part question, Mr Corbyn; how do you defend your own antisemitic behaviour, why aren't you kicking antisemites out of the Labour Party, and why did you think you could get away with lying to the people about addressing it?"
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    I find it a pretty striking finding that Corbyn’s seen as more trustworthy.

    There’s a rich seam for Labour (and others) there if a few things like Arcuri stay in the news.
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