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Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Well done, Big G. I know it meant a lot to you. But at a suitable time in the future you can rejoin.

tpfkar said:

Gallowgate said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

He already did that this morning.

Much respect to Big G for that.

Second that. Respect!

HYUFD said:

Jonathan said:

The law of unexpected consequences; Boris' contrasting style makes Corbyn look Prime Ministerial.

No it doesn't he looks in charge while Corbyn looks week and indecisive

Sorry HYUFD this is not going well for Boris.

If that shitshow from Boris at PMQs is a foretaste of his performance on the stump in a campaign, I cannot see a single Tory MP voting for an early General Election tonight.

Could any of them be confident of holding their seat?

Richard_Nabavi said:

Oh, and welcome to the club, @Big_G_NorthWales. Many more to come, I'm sure. Perhaps we'll see the Conservative Party reborn under a new name - the One Nation Party, perhaps.

https://twitter.com/liam_bones/status/1169198356893261824

Big_G_NorthWales said:

That is powerful

Boris

I want to spend 1 billion on the police

He wants to give the EU 1 billion a month

Yes brilliant line from Boris

eek said:

Cyclefree said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

That is powerful

Boris

I want to spend 1 billion on the police

He wants to give the EU 1 billion a month

Boris and Cummings know what they're doing.

Anyone who knows anything about the criminal justice system knows that giving money to the police will achieve absolutely nothing. Unless you invest in all parts of it, it is simply pissing money away.

But they've given money to the visible bits (police and prisons). You mean there are other bits that also need money (say courts, lawyers and probation offices). But they aren't obvious.

So far they have given nothing other than vague promises of 20K police, when we know already 40K will retire. As said if you don't fix the whole system you are just wasting time and money.

HYUFD said:

El_Capitano said:

This is utterly poor by Johnson. "His friends are in Tehran and Caracas." Oh for goodness' sake, the Conservatives have been hammering that line since Corbyn was first elected. It doesn't cut through.

It does given the Tories now have a 10%+ lead

You think the Tories' lead is because the public have suddenly become very concerned about Corbyn's stance on Iran?

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Its always difficult making decisions like that. The Conservative party is currently in a bad way.

Oh dear.....the French are laughing at Boris:

https://twitter.com/soniastolper/status/1169207067598622720?s=20

ab195 said:

None of you get i do you? You’re not the audience Boris is aiming for any more than you are for Corbyn on other subjects.

True - he's targeting people who are impressed by softhead populist bluster.

Question is, are there enough of them?

Scott_P said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Oh, and welcome to the club, @Big_G_NorthWales. Many more to come, I'm sure. Perhaps we'll see the Conservative Party reborn under a new name - the One Nation Party, perhaps.

https://twitter.com/liam_bones/status/1169198356893261824

North Shields. Clearly the wrong type of Northerner aye @HYUFD ?

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1169211255615344640

outrage 3,2,1.

eek said:

JackW said:

My word the glum faces on the Conservative backbenches says it all.

He's the leader they wanted and heck they should all know from working with him what his strengths and weaknesses were.

The entertaining bit is how quickly Boris's dream is completely and utterly falling apart.

Bozo really is all bullshit and bluster. I can see why he wants to prorogue. He really doesn't like being put under scrutiny.

Jezza will get a stonking majority after a few months of Bozo PMQs and running from interviews.

https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1169213335025455104

dr_spyn said:

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1169211255615344640

outrage 3,2,1.

‘Big people’s blouse’?

This pair look ready to bat all day.

And most of tomorrow.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

isam said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Don’t take this the wrong way, but isn’t this kind of thing (publishing resignation letters, announcing you are no longer posting on the site, long bios on Twitter) awfully vain and self important? Why do it?

You have a point but I wanted to display my reasons to those who may have been interested

Fair enough, sorry I didn’t really want to dig you out

Ishmael_Z said:

That was a spanking from Bercow about using names; naked hatred.

Will be an interesting election if it comes and the Tories stand against him.

isam said:

eek said:

isam said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Don’t take this the wrong way, but isn’t this kind of thing, publishing resignation letters, announcing you are no longer posting on the site, long bios on Twitter, awfully vain and self important? Why do it?

Given the comments some posters on here (including me) have made about Big_G remaining a member of the tories while other previously more favourable of Boris had left - it was a worthwhile thing to post.

Both Big_G leaving (which must have been a seriously hard decision) and his reasons for doing so are valid posts and discussion topics on this site.

Worthwhile to mention leaving, yes. Publishing letters/ writing threads about it seems like attention seeking to me

Given that people on here have had a go at his position its perfectly fair for him to respond politely - and given that this is a betting sites it's useful albeit anecdotal information.

Philip_Thompson said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

tpfkar said:

Gallowgate said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

He already did that this morning.

Much respect to Big G for that.

Thank you.

When my party throw out Ken Clarke and other long serving conservative mps why would I remain

It was a painful decision

Because Ken Clarke and others made their bed and because regardless of Brexit the Conservatives still stand for what you stand for?

But I respect your decision. I faced the same difficult choice when May was elected and made the same decision as you did.

I wasn't an adult or a member in Major's day but did you disagree with Major removing the whip from Rupert Allason? Had Bill Cash or John Redwood voted against Major on the Maastricht Confidence vote would you have opposed them being thrown out?

Rupert Allason aka Nigel West got the whip back and he was defeated in 1997. I dont think the Tory MPs who rebelled yesterday will get the whip back. So it is not the same and yesterday was not a confidence vote wheras 1993 was a formally linked issue/confidence vote.

mr-claypole said:

I thought Boris would be a bad PM. I did not think he would be bad at the dispatch box.

Didn't you watch him as foreign secretary?

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1169214589353058304

HYUFD said:

bigjohnowls said:

Johnson has Lost control of Brexit.
Johnson has Lost control of his Party.
Johnson has Lost control of the House.
Johnson has lost control of the election date.
Johnson has lost many One Nation Tory MPs and Voters
All on day 1.
HYUFD great day for Johnson!!

Johnson has a 10 point lead in the latest poll which also has most voters opposing further extension, today the Court of Session backed him proroguing Parliament, the momentum is all Boris

You are Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf and I claim my £5

Burgessian said:

YES side have no fatigue and will be well up for it, it does not need many more to change and it is won. Given the shambles and treatment since last one and us out of Europe , that should not be difficult.
Alastair is right about Sturgeon and if no referendum she is a goner for sure.



Hi Malc,

I don't doubt the enthusiasm of The National readership et al, I do doubt the enthusiasm of the general populace for being put through it all again. Brexit has not been a great advertisement for Westminster rule, I grant you, but it is also a warning about what happens when you embark on major constitutional change.

Sturgeon is surely safe as houses. Who on earth would lead a charge against her?

I seriously doubt she will not be challenged if she does not have a referendum next year. A lot of people getting impatient.

eek said:

isam said:

eek said:

isam said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Don’t take this the wrong way, but isn’t this kind of thing, publishing resignation letters, announcing you are no longer posting on the site, long bios on Twitter, awfully vain and self important? Why do it?

Given the comments some posters on here (including me) have made about Big_G remaining a member of the tories while other previously more favourable of Boris had left - it was a worthwhile thing to post.

Both Big_G leaving (which must have been a seriously hard decision) and his reasons for doing so are valid posts and discussion topics on this site.

Worthwhile to mention leaving, yes. Publishing letters/ writing threads about it seems like attention seeking to me

Given that people on here have had a go at his position its perfectly fair for him to respond politely - and given that this is a betting sites it's useful albeit anecdotal information.

Who said he couldn’t respond politely? Publishing the letter/making it the subject of a thread header seems to me to be like playing at being an MP or resigning minister, who do such things on Twitter

tpfkar said:

Jo Swinson could rip Johnson and Corbyn apart in TV debates, on this evidence.

I doubt there will be any tv debates.

I can't help feeling that the Cummings plan of a 'parliament vs the people' election has been somewhat undermined by the likelihood of scurrilous wags plastering that slogan over the picture of Rees-Mogg lounging on the benches.

Philip_Thompson said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

tpfkar said:

Gallowgate said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

He already did that this morning.

Much respect to Big G for that.

Thank you.

When my party throw out Ken Clarke and other long serving conservative mps why would I remain

It was a painful decision

Because Ken Clarke and others made their bed and because regardless of Brexit the Conservatives still stand for what you stand for?

But I respect your decision. I faced the same difficult choice when May was elected and made the same decision as you did.

I wasn't an adult or a member in Major's day but did you disagree with Major removing the whip from Rupert Allason? Had Bill Cash or John Redwood voted against Major on the Maastricht Confidence vote would you have opposed them being thrown out?

On any vote of confidence I expect all mps to comply.

However I do not accept yesterday was a vote of confidence

I was asked to stand as a Conservative Councillor in 1966 when I was 22 and had just started running my own business. I was unable to do so due to my commitments but have supported the party in many ways since, especially at GE's though only actually joining 3 years ago

dr_spyn said:

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1169211255615344640

outrage 3,2,1.

Boris and Cummings need to tone down this thing of hectoring Jezza into agreeing a GE. It smacks of tantrums and impotent panic. The public don't understand the intricacies of the FTPA either so will just be bewildered as to why Jezza is being picked on.

Gallowgate said:

Scott_P said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Oh, and welcome to the club, @Big_G_NorthWales. Many more to come, I'm sure. Perhaps we'll see the Conservative Party reborn under a new name - the One Nation Party, perhaps.

https://twitter.com/liam_bones/status/1169198356893261824

North Shields. Clearly the wrong type of Northerner aye @HYUFD ?

Clearly a LD in all but name anyway

surbiton19 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Well done, Big G. I know it meant a lot to you. But at a suitable time in the future you can rejoin.

Thank you but I think it may be some time

Applause as Johnson challenged into his letterbox remark.....

DougSeal said:

Boris is coming over like a stand up dying on his backside. He's really really bad at this.

I thought that quick wit and repartee was supposed to be one of Mr Johnson's strong points.

Richard_Nabavi said:

Boris not very good in parliament. That should not be a surprise to anyone who has been following politics for the last ten years.

I think Labour's position is actually now quite strong. If they can engineer an election after Boris has been humiliated by parliament blowing up his brain-dead 'do-or-die' deadline, Corbyn will have the best of both worlds: he'll be able to tell potential voters that Labour saw off the risk of a catastrophic Tory no-deal crash out, and be able with a moderately straight face to promise to come to a better relationship with the EU (the details can be left vague). Meanwhile he'll benefit from Farage laying in to Boris in exactly the same way he laid into Theresa May, for missing the self-imposed deadline.

Oh, and welcome to the club, @Big_G_NorthWales. Many more to come, I'm sure. Perhaps we'll see the Conservative Party reborn under a new name - the One Nation Party, perhaps.

That would be good to see, Richard. It seems the decent, sane and sensible grown-ups are rapidly departing a once-great institution.

HYUFD said:

Jonathan said:

The law of unexpected consequences; Boris' contrasting style makes Corbyn look Prime Ministerial.

No it doesn't he looks in charge and committed to Brexit while Corbyn looks weak and indecisive

LOL

BoZo has his first 6 o'clock news PMQ clip...

https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/1169216652493426688

HYUFD said:

Gallowgate said:

Scott_P said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Oh, and welcome to the club, @Big_G_NorthWales. Many more to come, I'm sure. Perhaps we'll see the Conservative Party reborn under a new name - the One Nation Party, perhaps.

https://twitter.com/liam_bones/status/1169198356893261824

North Shields. Clearly the wrong type of Northerner aye @HYUFD ?

Clearly a LD in all but name anyway

isam said:

eek said:

isam said:

eek said:

isam said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Don’t take this the wrong way, but isn’t this kind of thing, publishing resignation letters, announcing you are no longer posting on the site, long bios on Twitter, awfully vain and self important? Why do it?

Given the comments some posters on here (including me) have made about Big_G remaining a member of the tories while other previously more favourable of Boris had left - it was a worthwhile thing to post.

Both Big_G leaving (which must have been a seriously hard decision) and his reasons for doing so are valid posts and discussion topics on this site.

Worthwhile to mention leaving, yes. Publishing letters/ writing threads about it seems like attention seeking to me

Given that people on here have had a go at his position its perfectly fair for him to respond politely - and given that this is a betting sites it's useful albeit anecdotal information.

Who said he couldn’t respond politely? Publishing the letter/making it the subject of a thread header seems to me to be like playing at being an MP or resigning minister, who do such things on Twitter

Maybe not everybody's cup of tea but very entitled to and relevant to site and current state of politics etc. People here are interested that folks who have been members most of their life are throwing in the towel and leaving the Tories.

tpfkar said:

Jo Swinson could rip Johnson and Corbyn apart in TV debates, on this evidence.

Now we are in fantasy land

isam said:

All that said, I never really thought Boris was a particularly clear speaker, or got what people saw in him. Corbyn come across far more measured. He is more experienced I guess

What works on the panel show, and to some extent in person, fails on the big stage. Bluster just presents as bluster – it looks opaque and dishonest. It just doesn't work at all.

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Jonathan said:

The law of unexpected consequences; Boris' contrasting style makes Corbyn look Prime Ministerial.

No it doesn't he looks in charge and committed to Brexit while Corbyn looks weak and indecisive

HYUFD - he is having a nightmare

I fear that your hopes for Boris may collide with reality

No he isn't, nobody watches PMQs bar political nerds like us, all that matters is Boris got his sound bites across e.g. Corbyn preferring to send money to the EU rather than spend it at home which can make brief clips on the news

All people will watch is the edited highlights and there are a lot of editable highlights - none that make Boris look any good.

AlastairMeeks said:

A seat projection for Northern Ireland:

https://twitter.com/LucidTalk/status/1169214803266719744

Ordinarily this would be of niche interest, but note that the Alliance party look very close to gaining three more seats beyond the one predicted for them. The DUP will not relish heading to the electorate just now. That may affect their thinking about an early election.

Its about time, The current stranglehold of DUP/SF needs to be broken.

malcolmg said:

isam said:

eek said:

isam said:

eek said:

isam said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Don’t take this the wrong way, but isn’t this kind of thing, publishing resignation letters, announcing you are no longer posting on the site, long bios on Twitter, awfully vain and self important? Why do it?

Given the comments some posters on here (including me) have made about Big_G remaining a member of the tories while other previously more favourable of Boris had left - it was a worthwhile thing to post.

Both Big_G leaving (which must have been a seriously hard decision) and his reasons for doing so are valid posts and discussion topics on this site.

Worthwhile to mention leaving, yes. Publishing letters/ writing threads about it seems like attention seeking to me

Given that people on here have had a go at his position its perfectly fair for him to respond politely - and given that this is a betting sites it's useful albeit anecdotal information.

Who said he couldn’t respond politely? Publishing the letter/making it the subject of a thread header seems to me to be like playing at being an MP or resigning minister, who do such things on Twitter

Maybe not everybody's cup of tea but very entitled to and relevant to site and current state of politics etc. People here are interested that folks who have been members most of their life are throwing in the towel and leaving the Tories.

I would have thought Conservatives would have done so with as little fuss as possible

HYUFD said:

Stark_Dawning said:

dr_spyn said:

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1169211255615344640

outrage 3,2,1.

Boris and Cummings need to tone down this thing of hectoring Jezza into agreeing a GE. It smacks of tantrums and impotent panic. The public don't understand the intricacies of the FTPA either so will just be bewildered as to why Jezza is being picked on.

The same Corbyn who has spent the last 2 years demanding a general election now a scaredy cat coward when offered one

So what?

https://twitter.com/gabyhinsliff/status/1169217989788536832

https://twitter.com/PCollinsTimes/status/1169218100744654848

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1169213779462303745?s=20

There's some juicy spelling of juicy, juicier and juiciest there...

isam said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stereotomy said:

Slackbladder said:

Oh Boy.... Boris just used the S-word.

Big_G to resign his conservative membership today?

I published my resignation letter early this morning on this forum

Don’t take this the wrong way, but isn’t this kind of thing (publishing resignation letters, announcing you are no longer posting on the site, long bios on Twitter) awfully vain and self important? Why do it?

Absolutely this!