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What’s the plural of Incitatus?0
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Sell fireplaces?IanB2 said:Williamson educating people to do what?
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Cometh the hour...
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Is the lack of universal approbation making you uncomfortable ?Ave_it said:Can the hard left entitled remoaners such as cyclefree stop whining and recognise what is good for Britain! I am surprised roger and Tyson arent on too.
Good news HYUFD and I are here to represent voice of reason
#priti
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LeakIanB2 said:Williamson educating people to do what?
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Zephyr said:
The Conservative party has definitely changed from the 80’s, now modern, progressive, inclusive. Boris wants to save this Conservative party from disaster. There’s a huge number of Conservative members and voters who passionately believe the way forward out of Britain’s decline in this world has to be a break from the EU and go global Britain. They will go to Farage’s neo Thatcherite Party if the Conservative government doesn’t deliver Brexit. Perhaps go for ever. remainers need to battle for those voters too, not remain in denial about what has happened and why. Progress in this instance is satisfying what remainers across the political spectrum remain blinkered to, desire of the British people for self governance and reversing Britain’s decline in the world.
JosiasJessop said:
That is all good and well. except:
*) IME the UKIP-entry 'Boriservative' party is not about being modern, progressive or inclusive. Hence the UKIP-candidate who once complained about the evils of immigration in front of my wife.
*) Farage is not 'neo-Thatcherite'. He's the first Faragist.
*) I'm intrigued about what you think the cause of 'Britain’s decline in this world' actually was.
Zephyr said:
Lets be honest and straightforward about role immigration plays in our politics today. People see greater numbers of culturally foreign looking people about the place and feel uneasy about that, not because they are consumed by hatred and prejudices, but because it’s change they don’t feel comfortable with exactly same as loss of the green spaces and what was farm land 35 years ago to crummy housing blocks and estates is change they are not feeling comfortable with. This taking back control can only be addressed by standing up to business as Brown and May pledged to, cutting immigration to tens of thousands rather than hundreds of thousands as Cam promised. Where those politicians explicitly promised and nakedly failed, voters turn to others to deliver.
100 years ago today a school teacher pointed to a map of the world, the Union Jack was all over it. We owned it. Since then one by one those flags were erased till the last flag on top the British isles was erased and replaced with the EU flag.
During same period we have deindustrialised. Take a look at youthful Alan Whicker counting British cars on this bridge to illustrate British industrial decline and consider how decades of astute governments we have or haven’t played a smart long game in managing our transformation to post industrial.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNvgEQ0RHs8.
In the excellent Brexit Uncivil War Cummings went out into the street put his ear to the road because he could hear something. Read between what I am posting. I’m not trying to upset remainers, I’m trying to help them hear it too. For example, is it honest to say standing up to business and cut immigration to tens of thousands takes billions of £ out the economy?0 -
How ? They have no majority ?dixiedean said:
May's Government managed to pass nothing of consequence. I expect Boris will emulate her.0 -
The farmers and fisherfolk of Chipping Barnet are dancing in the streets....0
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Hard left?! Me? I think you may have confused me with a member of the Labour party.Ave_it said:Can the hard left entitled remoaners such as cyclefree stop whining and recognise what is good for Britain! I am surprised roger and Tyson arent on too.
Good news HYUFD and I are here to represent voice of reason
#priti
The last thing this government is concerned about is the interests of the country.
Still I am sure hard Brexiteers like you will be volunteering to be the first to lose your jobs and be last in the queue for medicines. After all you wouldn’t want us to think that you’re the sort of hypocrite who is happy for others to suffer but unwilling to endure the pain themselves, would you?0 -
"This is a reshuffle that Pol Pot might have indulged in"
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And I've been saying for ages that it actually isn't possible to hold one unless he calls it tomorrow...GIN1138 said:On Topic
Have been saying for months there would be a general election in October.
Let's see how things play out but Boris can only get an election if 440 MPs vote for one and I suspect they may have urgent business on the day of the vote...
And if he doesn't hold it tomorrow Labour forcing him to extend for the election to occur will be a sight to behold...0 -
Incels?AlastairMeeks said:What’s the plural of Incitatus?
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I've just spotted the silver lining in all this: Grayling out.0
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Hello Nigel totally relaxed about it
Boris
Good for BREXIT good for Britain
Hope we stop welfare too in the first budget £100bn pa saved good news1 -
Quoting Mellor instantly warms me to Johnson0
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Even within the realms of a Brexit Cabinet, Leadsom at Business doesn't feel a very natural fit.0
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He has been given one of the very few cabinet posts that doesn't involve National Security...Gallowgate said:
LeakIanB2 said:Williamson educating people to do what?
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Shit ! I've just realised how important Truss' position is in the event we leave without a deal !
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Good I will be voting LD, I regret voting Tory in 2017.GIN1138 said:On Topic
Have been saying for months there would be a general election in October.0 -
Dom Joly becomes a political party member for the first time today...0
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If one is far enough to the right, all of us seem hard left, rather in the way that people who have never left Kansas assume that everyone in Britain knows each other. (Welcome to the revolution, comrade Cyclefree.)Cyclefree said:
Hard left?! Me? I think you may have confused me with a member of the Labour party.Ave_it said:Can the hard left entitled remoaners such as cyclefree stop whining and recognise what is good for Britain! I am surprised roger and Tyson arent on too.
Good news HYUFD and I are here to represent voice of reason
#priti
The last thing this government is concerned about is the interests of the country.
Still I am sure hard Brexiteers like you will be volunteering to be the first to lose your jobs and be last in the queue for medicines. After all you wouldn’t want us to think that you’re the sort of hypocrite who is happy for others to suffer but unwilling to endure the pain themselves, would you?0 -
Not the only silver lining. Hammond gone will surely lift the economy in and of itself.SandyRentool said:I've just spotted the silver lining in all this: Grayling out.
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Maybe we didn't realise he was actually the crucial cog holding the whole thing together? Or at least provided cover for other's incompetence?SandyRentool said:I've just spotted the silver lining in all this: Grayling out.
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434 to be precise.eek said:
And I've been saying for ages that it actually isn't possible to hold one unless he calls it tomorrow...GIN1138 said:On Topic
Have been saying for months there would be a general election in October.
Let's see how things play out but Boris can only get an election if 440 MPs vote for one and I suspect they may have urgent business on the day of the vote...
And if he doesn't hold it tomorrow Labour forcing him to extend for the election to occur will be a sight to behold...0 -
Rudd staying did I miss that?0
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Jenrick succeeds Brokenshire at Communities, Housing and Local Govt.0
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I wonder how long Boris's bounce will last as Nissan announce the closure of Sunderland tomorrow0
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I think you mightt find this piece on No Deal Brexiters interesting. Inity is a long way off.Cyclefree said:
Hard left?! Me? I think you may have confused me with a member of the Labour party.Ave_it said:Can the hard left entitled remoaners such as cyclefree stop whining and recognise what is good for Britain! I am surprised roger and Tyson arent on too.
Good news HYUFD and I are here to represent voice of reason
#priti
The last thing this government is concerned about is the interests of the country.
Still I am sure hard Brexiteers like you will be volunteering to be the first to lose your jobs and be last in the queue for medicines. After all you wouldn’t want us to think that you’re the sort of hypocrite who is happy for others to suffer but unwilling to endure the pain themselves, would you?
https://twitter.com/lsebrexitvote/status/1153912031998820352?s=19
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Memo to Liz. Try not to look TOO desperate for one of those Global buccaneering Britain deals:
"Why would Canada make any concessions in a CETA equivalent [deal] when we know that we'll have pretty much 95 per cent duty-free access into that market?" said Brian Kingston, vice-president of the Business Council of Canada.
"Yes, the U.K. is an important and large market, but any negotiator sitting down with them would recognize that there's a different level of desperation with the Brits."
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Blimey, Nicky Morgan at Digital, Media etc0
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Hello Cyclefree I was in one of 'your' constituencies Copeland yesterday. They love your views there. Are you going to take the opportunity to vote labour there??NickPalmer said:
If one is far enough to the right, all of us seem hard left, rather in the way that people who have never left Kansas assume that everyone in Britain knows each other. (Welcome to the revolution, comrade Cyclefree.)Cyclefree said:
Hard left?! Me? I think you may have confused me with a member of the Labour party.Ave_it said:Can the hard left entitled remoaners such as cyclefree stop whining and recognise what is good for Britain! I am surprised roger and Tyson arent on too.
Good news HYUFD and I are here to represent voice of reason
#priti
The last thing this government is concerned about is the interests of the country.
Still I am sure hard Brexiteers like you will be volunteering to be the first to lose your jobs and be last in the queue for medicines. After all you wouldn’t want us to think that you’re the sort of hypocrite who is happy for others to suffer but unwilling to endure the pain themselves, would you?0 -
Corbyn's departure is the only game changer, otherwise it's going to be Johnson win as the opposition fragments as it did in the Foot v Alliance years. The consequences of Labour members electing Corbyn become more tragic as each day passes.SouthamObserver said:I have to say I think that Johnson has been politically very smart indeed. This Cabinet all but guarantees a big swing from BXP to the Tories. How can Farage not endorse it? With a split opposition he has to be a huge favourite to win the next election. The only spanner in the works is that what Johnson has done is so extreme that it may galvanise non-Tories to be very careful with their votes. I can see a scenario where Labour keeps most of its English seats, while the LDs pick up quite a few in the SE and SW, as well as some in Scotland. I am more confident that the LDs will do well than Labour will, but it could happen.
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Was Jacqui Smlith the first female home sec ?HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far0 -
Following today's events I suspect far more people see Boris Johnson as the thoroughly malign, disreputable human being that he so clearly is.0
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Nope, this is a Cabinet more ethnically diverse and female and which has more Leavers too and will win back many Brexit Party voters to the Tories without whom Boris cannot win a majorityCicero said:
Hilariously unaware... Your man has terrified your party an infuriated the rest of us... The only questions now are how quickly and how badly does this fiasco end?HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
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She's genuinely got a good record in that area.rottenborough said:0 -
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Not first female Asian Home Secretaryasjohnstone said:
Was Jacqui Smlith the first female home sec ?HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
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HYUFD said:
Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far
Sadly just about nobody on here agrees with you.0 -
O/T
Does anyone understand these odds for the England v Ireland test match?
England 1.32
Ireland 4.7
Draw 29
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Striking thing so far is the number of retreads who left for reasons of scandal or general uselessness.
Is it because the talent pool is that empty, or is BJ the PM after people who are too compromised to argue back at him? Neither is a good look.0 -
Boris is Bercow's fourth PM whilst speaker. Is that a record?0
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With respect, you probably had similar expectations in Spring 2017! I certainly did - and was proved wrong.OllyT said:
Corbyn's departure is the only game changer, otherwise it's going to be Johnson win as the opposition fragments as it did in the Foot v Alliance years. The consequences of Labour members electing Corbyn become more tragic as each day passes.SouthamObserver said:I have to say I think that Johnson has been politically very smart indeed. This Cabinet all but guarantees a big swing from BXP to the Tories. How can Farage not endorse it? With a split opposition he has to be a huge favourite to win the next election. The only spanner in the works is that what Johnson has done is so extreme that it may galvanise non-Tories to be very careful with their votes. I can see a scenario where Labour keeps most of its English seats, while the LDs pick up quite a few in the SE and SW, as well as some in Scotland. I am more confident that the LDs will do well than Labour will, but it could happen.
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Yet the number of Tory Party voters to Brexit Party voters down 12%, mainly swapping some Tory Remainers to the LDs for Brexit Party Leavers to the Tories.Scott_P said:
56% of 2017 Tories now voting Tory compared to 47% 5 days ago0 -
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I agree with HUFYD voice of reasonOllyT said:HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far
Sadly just about nobody on here agrees with you.0 -
Just wondering, Mr HY.... but how is it going down with the rank and file Conservative that three of the top political posts are held by two Indians and and an Israeli? While the top post of all is held by a person of Turkish descent?HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far
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Including himself. He is a remainer who voted remain in 2016. He is bitterly disappointed.OllyT said:HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far
Sadly just about nobody on here agrees with you.0 -
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I imagine there are going to be a fair few unionists like me looking at this cabinet going "Yeah we really should have voted Yes in 2014".0
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Yes all the names so far (except the guy at Defense no on has ever heard of) are people who have been on the scene for years and years.Stuartinromford said:Striking thing so far is the number of retreads who left for reasons of scandal or general uselessness.
Is it because the talent pool is that empty, or is BJ the PM after people who are too compromised to argue back at him? Neither is a good look.
I was expecting Cabinet promotions for quite a few of the 2015 in take but doesn't look like it's happening.
Maybe Boris wants known names for the general election?0 -
Will be interesting to watch Villiers. I think she is good, open minded and straightforward.HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
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Interesting chart. The Tories are losing votes to the Lib Dems as quickly as they are regaining them from the Brexit Party.Scott_P said:0 -
I hadn't realised that Raab was [German origin] Jewish, but how does that make him Israeli?PClipp said:
Just wondering, Mr HY.... but how is it going down with the rank and file Conservative that three of the top political posts are held by two Indians and and an Israeli? While the top post of all is held by a person of Turkish descent?HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far
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No, Speaker Fiztroy went through 5 PMs.tlg86 said:Boris is Bercow's fourth PM whilst speaker. Is that a record?
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Grant "Michael Green" Shapps, surely?Scott_P said:0 -
"People see greater numbers of culturally foreign looking people about the place and feel uneasy about that, not because they are consumed by hatred and prejudices, but because it’s change they don’t feel comfortable with exactly same as loss of the green spaces and what was farm land 35 years ago to crummy housing blocks and estates is change they are not feeling comfortable with."Zephyr said:Zephyr said:
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Zephyr said:
Lets be honest and straightforward about role immigration plays in our politics today. People see greater numbers of culturally foreign looking people about the place and feel uneasy about that, not because they are consumed by hatred and prejudices, but because it’s change they don’t feel comfortable with exactly same as loss of the green spaces and what was farm land 35 years ago to crummy housing blocks and estates is change they are not feeling comfortable with. This taking back control can only be addressed by standing up to business as Brown and May pledged to, cutting immigration to tens of thousands rather than hundreds of thousands as Cam promised. Where those politicians explicitly promised and nakedly failed, voters turn to others to deliver.
100 years ago today a school teacher pointed to a map of the world, the Union Jack was all over it. We owned it. Since then one by one those flags were erased till the last flag on top the British isles was erased and replaced with the EU flag.
During same period we have deindustrialised. Take a look at youthful Alan Whicker counting British cars on this bridge to illustrate British industrial decline and consider how decades of astute governments we have or haven’t played a smart long game in managing our transformation to post industrial.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNvgEQ0RHs8.
In the excellent Brexit Uncivil War Cummings went out into the street put his ear to the road because he could hear something. Read between what I am posting. I’m not trying to upset remainers, I’m trying to help them hear it too. For example, is it honest to say standing up to business and cut immigration to tens of thousands takes billions of £ out the economy?
Mrs J was recently very ill in hospital, during which time she was treated by many 'culturally foreign looking people'. Fortunately it was not as serious as feared and they didn't have to save her life, but I bet those 'culturally foreign looking people' would have saved her just as well as the 'culturally white looking people' would have. and that's a problem I've seen first-hand: many people who complain about 'immigrants' refuse to see the immigrants who contribute daily around them as immigrants: 'immigrants' are the horror stores in the Daily Mail.
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Czech not German.His late father was but not his English mother.Ishmael_Z said:
I hadn't realised that Raab was [German origin] Jewish, but how does that make him Israeli?PClipp said:
Just wondering, Mr HY.... but how is it going down with the rank and file Conservative that three of the top political posts are held by two Indians and and an Israeli? While the top post of all is held by a person of Turkish descent?HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far
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got a source for that?eek said:I wonder how long Boris's bounce will last as Nissan announce the closure of Sunderland tomorrow
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Five tenures, four people. Bercow could get to five of each before the year's out.TheScreamingEagles said:
No, Speaker Fiztroy went through 5 PMs.tlg86 said:Boris is Bercow's fourth PM whilst speaker. Is that a record?
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You said 'first female'. Just for once admit you got something wrong.HYUFD said:
Not first female Asian Home Secretaryasjohnstone said:
Was Jacqui Smlith the first female home sec ?HYUFD said:Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary
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If only your party had a decent leader I might well join you Comrade Palmer. As it is......NickPalmer said:
If one is far enough to the right, all of us seem hard left, rather in the way that people who have never left Kansas assume that everyone in Britain knows each other. (Welcome to the revolution, comrade Cyclefree.)Cyclefree said:
Hard left?! Me? I think you may have confused me with a member of the Labour party.Ave_it said:Can the hard left entitled remoaners such as cyclefree stop whining and recognise what is good for Britain! I am surprised roger and Tyson arent on too.
Good news HYUFD and I are here to represent voice of reason
#priti
The last thing this government is concerned about is the interests of the country.
Still I am sure hard Brexiteers like you will be volunteering to be the first to lose your jobs and be last in the queue for medicines. After all you wouldn’t want us to think that you’re the sort of hypocrite who is happy for others to suffer but unwilling to endure the pain themselves, would you?
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Shit leader, shit cabinet, the utterly dogshit plan of a brain dead wankbreath, shit, shit, shit times.1
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The cabinet ministers who I despise the most Amber Rudd, Morgan and Hancock .
Vile , disgusting unprincipled who sold out versus just the nutjobs who were always for no deal .0 -
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Good to see Layla Moran has tweeted something. She always adds value. Has she sorted out her laptop now? 😄0
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Well, I would not brag too much about the Education portfolio if I was a LibDem.El_Capitano said:
Kirsty Williams holds it in Wales -- and Welsh Education services are a bigger disaster than English.0 -
Can we put you down as a maybe then?Pro_Rata said:Shit leader, shit cabinet, the utterly dogshit plan of a brain dead wankbreath, shit, shit, shit times.
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They will not love the damage a No Deal Brexit will do their area. The Tory MP has a very small majority. She’ll be out on her ear.Ave_it said:
Hello Cyclefree I was in one of 'your' constituencies Copeland yesterday. They love your views there. Are you going to take the opportunity to vote labour there??NickPalmer said:
If one is far enough to the right, all of us seem hard left, rather in the way that people who have never left Kansas assume that everyone in Britain knows each other. (Welcome to the revolution, comrade Cyclefree.)Cyclefree said:
Hard left?! Me? I think you may have confused me with a member of the Labour party.Ave_it said:Can the hard left entitled remoaners such as cyclefree stop whining and recognise what is good for Britain! I am surprised roger and Tyson arent on too.
Good news HYUFD and I are here to represent voice of reason
#priti
The last thing this government is concerned about is the interests of the country.
Still I am sure hard Brexiteers like you will be volunteering to be the first to lose your jobs and be last in the queue for medicines. After all you wouldn’t want us to think that you’re the sort of hypocrite who is happy for others to suffer but unwilling to endure the pain themselves, would you?0 -
Johnson's radical ruthlessness is sending a message to the electorate and also to Brussels.0
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Ho ho, very satirical. He just needs a good slapping.El_Capitano said:0 -
Owns multiple houses worth over £5m, who says he is an entrepreneur when never ran his own business, but was a manager for an auction house. Not one of the elite at all.JohnO said:Jenrick succeeds Brokenshire at Communities, Housing and Local Govt.
Bad news for anyone renting or ever wanting to buy their first property at a reasonable price. Bad news for the long term future of the Tory party as even fewer 30 and 40 somethings move to supporting them.0 -
Nothing for IDS, JRM or MFI I see?
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Best she could hope for.JohnO said:0 -
I just wish that sometimes people wouldn't over do it with all these 1930's analogies. I mean it's not like Chamberlain has left and Churchill has taken over is it?justin124 said:
Just like the Roehm Purge of 1934!geoffw said:Johnson's radical ruthlessness is sending a message to the electorate and also to Brussels.
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OK so that is a quite comprehensive analysis of Labour under Corbyn. Any thoughts on Boris?Pro_Rata said:Shit leader, shit cabinet, the utterly dogshit plan of a brain dead wankbreath, shit, shit, shit times.
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Hear, hear.El_Capitano said:
Cometh the hour, cometh the Scotswoman.0 -
😄😄😄Ishmael_Z said:
Ho ho, very satirical. He just needs a good slapping.El_Capitano said:0 -
You seem upset !!!!Pro_Rata said:Shit leader, shit cabinet, the utterly dogshit plan of a brain dead wankbreath, shit, shit, shit times.
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Experts will know better but I imagine seats wise losing a further 5% of votes to LD but gaining 5% from Brexit party would cost rather than gain Tory seats? Particularly with anti Tory tactical voting likely to be higher than ever.FF43 said:
Interesting chart. The Tories are losing votes to the Lib Dems as quickly as they are regaining them from the Brexit Party.Scott_P said:0 -
That's probably the right approach now. It's inconceivable that a new better deal is going to be negotiated with the new government.nico67 said:
The EU will just yawn and let the Tories implode .geoffw said:Johnson's radical ruthlessness is sending a message to the electorate and also to Brussels.
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