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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Punters pile on to a 2019 general election in reaction to Johnson’s cabinet

The view of those ready to risk their cash betting on politics is that Johnson’s cabinet appointments suggest that the new PM is aiming for an early general election perhaps this year. GE2019 is now almost an evens chance on the Betfair exchange.

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301
    A government of all the talentless.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154
    edited July 2019

    A government of all the talentless.

    A government of all the truth-deniers?

    Or how about a government of all the Butts?
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Serious question. If, and it's a big if (obviously) moderate Tories wanted to try and breakaway from the existing party, how many could potentially take their local party (and membership?) with them? For the sake of argument, let's say Wandsworth decided that they had enough, theoretically could they do it?
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    A government of all the talentless.

    Wait for the lower ministerial posts...
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,269
    A government of liars.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301
    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,795

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    The Isle of Jura is popular for KLF style symbolic burnings
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154
    edited July 2019
    Cyclefree said:

    A government of liars.

    One government of absolute liars?

    THey have one goal...
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,287
    As the self proclaimed doyen of the pbTories, I’m staying and pledge to be as unrelentingly and unswervingly loyal to this government as most of its leading members were to its predecessor.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,965

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    !!!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,891
    Senior job for Amber Rudd apparently, let it never be said Boris' cabinet isn't a place for remainers :D
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    The Isle of Jura is popular for KLF style symbolic burnings
    Doing it there would be whisky. What if it rained?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,800
    Evening all :)

    I'm left with two thoughts.

    First, having been a member of a political party for nearly 40 years, I fully understand Richard N's emotional struggle and turmoil at cutting himself away from something which has ben part of his life. I've walked the line myself on two or three occasions but never crossed it. I respect Richard N as a conservative and while I don't always agree with him, I have always known he puts the welfare of the citizens of the country at the highest level. We don't I think differ much on ends but we do differ on means.

    Second, sometimes when you are a leader of men and women you have to make a tough call - do you have around you people who support you, people you can trust or do you surround yourself with the best people for the job who may not like you but you know are the people you need in that role. Neither Churchill in 1940 nor Thatcher in 1975 (as two examples) inherited teams which were full of allies and supporters. The art is to trust the people best able to do the job to do the job - that's what counts not whether they cheer you to the rafters every time you say something.

  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,427

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    Are you going to campaign for Laura in Hallam? >:)
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    edited July 2019
    You mean, other than the fact that we can't legally agree any trade deals, and other countries don't want to commit because their negotiating position improves with every passing day?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154
    JohnO said:

    As the self proclaimed doyen of the pbTories, I’m staying and pledge to be as unrelentingly and unswervingly loyal to this government as most of its leading members were to its predecessor.

    Blimey, if Johnson has even lost you...

    But at least I presume he still has the Ullapool-Inverness ferry seadog.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301
    JohnO said:

    As the self proclaimed doyen of the pbTories, I’m staying and pledge to be as unrelentingly and unswervingly loyal to this government as most of its leading members were to its predecessor.

    Well if you’re staying then I have to as well.

    I mean what else will we call our regular lunches for PB Tories.
  • RecidivistRecidivist Posts: 4,679
    JohnO said:

    As the self proclaimed doyen of the pbTories, I’m staying and pledge to be as unrelentingly and unswervingly loyal to this government as most of its leading members were to its predecessor.

    I see what you did there.
  • A government of democratically elected Tory MPs.
    It's making me cry with laughter reading all the bleating about what a bunch of useless wankers have risen to the top of the Tory party.
    This is your party, Tories. Your party selected them as candidates, your party made them what they have become. Suck it up, the rest of us have to.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    Had a chat with George Osborne yet? Is he still holding out for head of the IMF?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    Are you going to campaign for Laura in Hallam? >:)
    I’m going to vote for her, I’m not a Lib Dem, so I cannot campaign for them.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,965

    JohnO said:

    As the self proclaimed doyen of the pbTories, I’m staying and pledge to be as unrelentingly and unswervingly loyal to this government as most of its leading members were to its predecessor.

    Well if you’re staying then I have to as well.

    I mean what else will we call our regular lunches for PB Tories.
    World's swiftest U-turn!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,401
    Far worse than anything Thatcher put together.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,269
    At a time like this we need, God how we need, a decent opposition.

    And instead we have Corbyn’s Labour.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,965
    Villiers to Environment
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,528
    This is definitely a Cabinet put together for an election.
  • chloechloe Posts: 308
    How is this cabinet uniting the country?
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    It does rather seem as though Johnson doesn't realise what throwing a dozen and a half talented and respected ministers onto the back benches is likely to do to his ability to erm... govern. Maybe he's trying to deliberately provoke an election without having to call one himself? In the age of stupid populists I've stopped assuming tactics as the default and assume any move that seems dumb in the abstract is just as dumb in the detail.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,800


    I’m going to vote for her, I’m not a Lib Dem, so I cannot campaign for them.

    If you're not a Conservative either, you can do what you like. You don't have to be a Lib Dem to support and work for a Lib Dem.

  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,528
    Honestly, I'm edging my way to the exit door of the party after many, many years.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301
    alex. said:

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    Had a chat with George Osborne yet? Is he still holding out for head of the IMF?
    I think George is currently on suicide watch.

    He never wanted the job, he’s about to become a lone parent and wants to put the kids first.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,123
    MaxPB said:

    This is definitely a Cabinet put together for an election.

    Give away budget coming up...
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,593
    I have to say I think that Johnson has been politically very smart indeed. This Cabinet all but guarantees a big swing from BXP to the Tories. How can Farage not endorse it? With a split opposition he has to be a huge favourite to win the next election. The only spanner in the works is that what Johnson has done is so extreme that it may galvanise non-Tories to be very careful with their votes. I can see a scenario where Labour keeps most of its English seats, while the LDs pick up quite a few in the SE and SW, as well as some in Scotland. I am more confident that the LDs will do well than Labour will, but it could happen.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    At least we’ll have enough cheese.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154
    Scott_P said:
    In fairness, while I defer to nobody in my loathing of Johnson and my contempt for his lack of integrity -

    - any organisation even tangentially associated with Labour accusing someone else of lying is a bit like Mao Zedong accusing somebody else of running a misguided agricultural policy.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    A government of liars.

    One government of absolute liars?

    THey have one goal...
    A cabinet crafted out of finest English oak, from ear to ear.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,401
    Cyclefree said:

    At a time like this we need, God how we need, a decent opposition.

    And instead we have Corbyn’s Labour.

    I know. I am weeping into my beer. Tears of frustration.

    Still, surely Johnson combined with Jezza will allow moderate centre Britain to unite now and get rid of both these parties?

    What a moment. I await Blair's next video.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,891
    Harry Potter theme now !
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947
    Yes it looks like the plan is to pitch a rancid brand of cheap softhead populism and hope that the British people succumb in a 'crisis' election.

    Might work. Because to paraphrase BoJo - if you bet against the delusion of the British people that they are in some way special you will probably lose your shirt.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,401
    tlg86 said:

    MaxPB said:

    This is definitely a Cabinet put together for an election.

    Give away budget coming up...
    Won't pass. Not got the votes now. So will be symbolic only.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    A government of liars.

    One government of absolute liars?

    THey have one goal...
    A cabinet crafted out of finest English oak, from ear to ear.
    If only their bark was worse than their bite...

    I am seriously regretting voting Tory in 2017.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154
    chloe said:

    How is this cabinet uniting the country?

    Almost everyone hates them?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    chloe said:

    How is this cabinet uniting the country?

    In contempt ?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,528

    tlg86 said:

    MaxPB said:

    This is definitely a Cabinet put together for an election.

    Give away budget coming up...
    Won't pass. Not got the votes now. So will be symbolic only.
    Yes, and Jez has just called for an election, so Labour will be whipped to back one of Boris goes for it. Whatever one thinks of Bozza, he's a good campaigner unlike Theresa.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154
    kinabalu said:

    Yes it looks like the plan is to pitch a rancid brand of cheap softhead populism and hope that the British people succumb in a 'crisis' election.

    Might work. Because to paraphrase BoJo - if you bet against the delusion of the British people that they are in some way special you will probably lose your shirt.

    It nearly did in 2017.

    Johnson is as much Corbyn's creation as he is Farage's.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,401
    chloe said:

    How is this cabinet uniting the country?

    Another Johnson lie.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,268
    edited July 2019
    Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary

    Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301
    David Herdson is trolling me (and sucking up to JohnO)

    https://twitter.com/davidherdson/status/1154040957047717888?s=21
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    A government of liars.

    One government of absolute liars?

    THey have one goal...
    A cabinet crafted out of finest English oak, from ear to ear.
    If only their bark was worse than their bite...

    I am seriously regretting voting Tory in 2017.
    Rotten to the core, and full of louses.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,401
    kinabalu said:

    Yes it looks like the plan is to pitch a rancid brand of cheap softhead populism and hope that the British people succumb in a 'crisis' election.

    Might work. Because to paraphrase BoJo - if you bet against the delusion of the British people that they are in some way special you will probably lose your shirt.

    Sadly all true. I expect bring back hanging for police killers to be a central feature of the campaign.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    ydoethur said:

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    The Isle of Jura is popular for KLF style symbolic burnings
    Doing it there would be whisky. What if it rained?
    Still...
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,287
    ydoethur said:

    JohnO said:

    As the self proclaimed doyen of the pbTories, I’m staying and pledge to be as unrelentingly and unswervingly loyal to this government as most of its leading members were to its predecessor.

    Blimey, if Johnson has even lost you...

    But at least I presume he still has the Ullapool-Inverness ferry seadog.
    Who knows...he may yet reach an agreement with the EU though that looks highly improbable. I am simply whistling amiably from the sidelines and biding my time. And our new Foreign Secretary is my MP in a constituency that voted 60% Remain and which the LibDems are now fiercely targeting......he currently has a 20k majority that on paper should be unassailable. Who knows indeed?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301
    chloe said:

    How is this cabinet uniting the country?

    https://twitter.com/tseofpb/status/1154082002208825344?s=21
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    HYUFD said:

    Good strong new Cabinet from Boris...

    You excel yourself.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    HYUFD said:

    Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary

    Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far

    ...
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    I must admit I did laugh today when watching Boris Johnson going to the Palace. I wonder if the Queen has a sense of humour given Johnsons racial comments in his newspaper columns of the past. To meet the new PM as he arrived at the palace a smiling ethnic minority member of staff ushered Johnson in to be given permission by the Queen to become PM. I thought of Johnsons smiling pickaninny and watermelon smile comments...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,401
    Here's a thought. Patel will be in charge of controlling the mass civil disorder following a No Deal.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,891
    This looks like a reverse takeover of the Brexit party to me.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,528

    kinabalu said:

    Yes it looks like the plan is to pitch a rancid brand of cheap softhead populism and hope that the British people succumb in a 'crisis' election.

    Might work. Because to paraphrase BoJo - if you bet against the delusion of the British people that they are in some way special you will probably lose your shirt.

    Sadly all true. I expect bring back hanging for police killers to be a central feature of the campaign.
    Hopefully drawing and quartering for traitor remainers as well.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787

    tlg86 said:

    MaxPB said:

    This is definitely a Cabinet put together for an election.

    Give away budget coming up...
    Won't pass. Not got the votes now. So will be symbolic only.
    Oh good, so along with everything else, we'll get a lesson on how the FTPA breaks loss of supply.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    Ishmael_Z said:

    ydoethur said:

    I shall be live streaming the burning of my membership card next week.

    The Isle of Jura is popular for KLF style symbolic burnings
    Doing it there would be whisky. What if it rained?
    Still...
    It must go against the grain for TSE, though.

    100% proof of how dire the situation is.

  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,269
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    A government of liars.

    One government of absolute liars?

    THey have one goal...
    A cabinet crafted out of finest English oak, from ear to ear.
    If only their bark was worse than their bite...

    I am seriously regretting voting Tory in 2017.
    How does one oppose them? My constituency is already Labour. I can’t support Corbyn anyway.

    I really fear that rights we have eg for equality will be taken away when you have people like Patel as HS and Cummings behind the scenes
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,062
    chloe said:

    How is this cabinet uniting the country?

    In incredulity, dismay, rage and contempt...?

    Boris blew it in 6 hours.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,231

    chloe said:

    How is this cabinet uniting the country?

    https://twitter.com/tseofpb/status/1154082002208825344?s=21
    @Gardenwalker I'm a Boris optimist but LOL. :lol:
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Any job for his brother yet?
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Can the hard left entitled remoaners such as cyclefree stop whining and recognise what is good for Britain! I am surprised roger and Tyson arent on too.

    Good news HYUFD and I are here to represent voice of reason

    #priti
  • Awb683Awb683 Posts: 80
    Boris isn't wasting any time - thank goodness!!
  • Williamson to Education confirmed.

    Heaven help us.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,269
    Pulpstar said:

    This looks like a reverse takeover of the Brexit party to me.

    Certainly. It’s a putsch by the Brexit Party.

    There will be no attempt at negotiations to get a deal and an orderly withdrawal. It’s a FU to Europe and to business and decency and integrity.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    Looks like Bozo will cement the pensioner vote .

    The ones who took away their grandkids freedom of movement will also now be complicit in removing their human rights when the nutjob cabinet dupes the plebs into waving away the ECHR under the guise of getting rid of those nasty terrorists .

  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    A government of liars.

    One government of absolute liars?

    THey have one goal...
    A cabinet crafted out of finest English oak, from ear to ear.
    If only their bark was worse than their bite...

    I am seriously regretting voting Tory in 2017.
    How does one oppose them? My constituency is already Labour. I can’t support Corbyn anyway.

    I really fear that rights we have eg for equality will be taken away when you have people like Patel as HS and Cummings behind the scenes
    By voting for the person who most closely matches your own views. That may be not very closely at all but everything is relative and it has to be someone.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    Awb683 said:

    Boris isn't wasting any time - thank goodness!!

    Yes, destroying the Tory party, without unnecessary delay.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,891
    Those polling numbers summarised....

    Boris terrifies us we're worried shitless, was voting leave a good idea ?!??!

    BUT Corbyn over my dead body
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,123
    Not wanting to chuck fuel on the "is Corbyn ill" theory, but I can't help but notice he is looking very thin in the face these days.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    HYUFD said:

    Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary

    Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far

    Is this what you hoped and voted for in 2016?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,965
    HYUFD said:

    Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary

    Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far

    A near-perfect cabinet?

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,153
    edited July 2019
    Not seeing much sign of the 2015 in take yet...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,891
    41% Boris, 22% Corbyn best PM - absolubtely devastating for Labour lol
  • RecidivistRecidivist Posts: 4,679
    HYUFD said:

    Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary

    Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far

    We are all impressed by the way you are keeping up appearances. Don't worry. You are among friends here. If you want to have a little cry that is fine.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,342
    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    A government of liars.

    One government of absolute liars?

    THey have one goal...
    A cabinet crafted out of finest English oak, from ear to ear.
    If only their bark was worse than their bite...

    I am seriously regretting voting Tory in 2017.
    How does one oppose them? My constituency is already Labour. I can’t support Corbyn anyway.

    I really fear that rights we have eg for equality will be taken away when you have people like Patel as HS and Cummings behind the scenes
    Not to mention employment rights.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    The majority would still be three in the event of a LibDem win next week - albeit because Labour supplies two Deputy Speakers with the Tories providing just one.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,513
    TOPPING said:

    Cyclefree said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    A government of liars.

    One government of absolute liars?

    THey have one goal...
    A cabinet crafted out of finest English oak, from ear to ear.
    If only their bark was worse than their bite...

    I am seriously regretting voting Tory in 2017.
    How does one oppose them? My constituency is already Labour. I can’t support Corbyn anyway.

    I really fear that rights we have eg for equality will be taken away when you have people like Patel as HS and Cummings behind the scenes
    By voting for the person who most closely matches your own views. That may be not very closely at all but everything is relative and it has to be someone.
    Agreed.
    In the end, tactical voting works in a very limited number of constituencies. Registering an opinion remains important, nonetheless.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    Scott_P said:
    He's
    Cyclefree said:

    At a time like this we need, God how we need, a decent opposition.

    And instead we have Corbyn’s Labour.

    Yes.

    I am angry and upset, but I fear that worse is yet to come.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    Williamson educating people to do what?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,301
    Pulpstar said:

    41% Boris, 22% Corbyn best PM - absolubtely devastating for Labour lol

    Those numbers will reverse after sustained No Deal.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    Scott_P said:
    He has just made 17+ enemies who will make his life hell, with no majority in parliament.

    I actually wonder if Boris is a deluded fantasist? He is gambling everything on winning and getting his way but what will be the cost if these poor decisions end in disaster? You do not run a successful country by taking risks with such unpalatable downsides. It is illogical.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,891
    lol Leadsom to business !
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,153
    On Topic

    Have been saying for months there would be a general election in October.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,062
    HYUFD said:

    Good strong new Cabinet from Boris. A more mixed top team with 3 Remainers replaced by Javid as Chancellor, a Remainer but first Asian Chancellor and Raab as Foreign Secretary and Patel as Home Secretary, both Leavers and Patel first female and first Asian Home Secretary

    Promotions too for women like Villiers and Truss so far

    Hilariously unaware... Your man has terrified your party an infuriated the rest of us... The only questions now are how quickly and how badly does this fiasco end?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    One things for sure any Labour MP propping up this right wing coup in a VONC better leave the country .

  • RH1992RH1992 Posts: 788
    Leadsom bringing the mother's touch to business.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,401

    Scott_P said:
    He's
    Cyclefree said:

    At a time like this we need, God how we need, a decent opposition.

    And instead we have Corbyn’s Labour.

    Yes.

    I am angry and upset, but I fear that worse is yet to come.
    Not sure I have ever been so angry and fearful about the state of the nation.
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