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They are responding to a written request and no doubt the EU lawyers have arrived at this datesolarflare said:I mean call me crazy, but if May wants June 30 and the EU says either earlier as May 23 or much much longer, would that maybe not have come up in conversation at some point recently before she sent them a letter?
The bigger problem for a longer delay is the statutory requirement for the UK to hold EU elections in May and in order to do that, legislation has to be laid before the HOC by the 11th April and then passed, which is three weeks tomorrow
I just cannot see a deadlocked HOC passing it, and as for the attitude of th electorate !!!!!!!!
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The point here is that the Tories have clearly decided that Zadawi is the best runner they have to fulfil the Fallon role. Yet he is failing dismally.Stereotomy said:
Wow, the difference in interview skill between those two is quite something. She dominated that so effortlessly.williamglenn said:0 -
Without my glasses, I read the last name as Lenin...… :-(Philip_Thompson said:
Fair enough though Cash is rather the odd one out there.Tissue_Price said:Bercow deliberately extending PMQs to call all sorts of significant backbenchers (Clarke, Cash, Miliband, Cooper, Boles, Letwin).
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Me too.PeterMannion said:
Agreed 100%SeanT said:
She is personally wedded to those red lines, which make everything impossible. A new leader - even, God help us, Boris - could reasonably say this Deal is shit, but the red lines ensure it is shit, so we need to budge. Then go for EEA/EFTA+ or whatever. Accept FoM.Jonathan said:
The cycle never changes. May cooks up some plan entirely on her own. The loyalists back her. This plan turns out not to be grounded in reality. The plan fails. We end up where we started. Rinse and repeat.SeanT said:
That means No Deal, New Referendum, or Revoke.Scott_P said:
Given the time available, No Deal it will be. Unless the Commons comes to its senses.
We need to get rid of May to break the cycle. She just doesn't do reality.
Or call a new vote.0 -
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Then resign ffs. End this.Scott_P said:0 -
me threeGallowgate said:
Me too.PeterMannion said:
Agreed 100%SeanT said:
She is personally wedded to those red lines, which make everything impossible. A new leader - even, God help us, Boris - could reasonably say this Deal is shit, but the red lines ensure it is shit, so we need to budge. Then go for EEA/EFTA+ or whatever. Accept FoM.Jonathan said:
The cycle never changes. May cooks up some plan entirely on her own. The loyalists back her. This plan turns out not to be grounded in reality. The plan fails. We end up where we started. Rinse and repeat.SeanT said:
That means No Deal, New Referendum, or Revoke.Scott_P said:
Given the time available, No Deal it will be. Unless the Commons comes to its senses.
We need to get rid of May to break the cycle. She just doesn't do reality.
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Amen Brother! If Corbyn wasn't Labour Leader, the Conservatives would probably be less popular than the Lib Dems or indeed TIG.Super_Jeremy said:
It is true. I am not going to lie. I voted leave (I am in Durham North) and for very good reasons. Left of Centre. However I did not vote based on a no deal exit and the current shambolic inept handling of it by the current Tory administration is a total and utter disgrace. Peoples lives and businesses are impacted by this complete lack of movement and all the political classes do is retreat to entrenched positions. It should be about what is good for the country not what is good for Tory party discipline.Nigelb said:
True or not, it is a nice illustration of the general case.Richard_Tyndall said:
Bullshit.Super_Jeremy said:
"Remoaner" !!!Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
I didn't vote Remain mate.
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1108000807948111873
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That would make Corbyn happy ...Peter_the_Punter said:
Without my glasses, I read the last name as Lenin...… :-(Philip_Thompson said:
Fair enough though Cash is rather the odd one out there.Tissue_Price said:Bercow deliberately extending PMQs to call all sorts of significant backbenchers (Clarke, Cash, Miliband, Cooper, Boles, Letwin).
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The fact that Tories are firing blanks at one of the few voices of sanity amidst this national chaos tells us all we need to know.Tissue_Price said:
Please see my post below. You are incorrect: Bercow departed from usual custom and procedure today. As it happens, I think he has a point on this occasion.IanB2 said:
He's just following Tory Central Office script of rubbishing the speaker. Who hasn't actually put a foot wrong.Philip_Thompson said:
Fair enough though Cash is rather the odd one out there.Tissue_Price said:Bercow deliberately extending PMQs to call all sorts of significant backbenchers (Clarke, Cash, Miliband, Cooper, Boles, Letwin).
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Quite. Staying to fight has been shown to be bullshit that changes nothingGallowgate said:
Then resign ffs. End this.Scott_P said:0 -
Who's firing blanks? Everyone seems to say they agree with him doing it?IanB2 said:
The fact that Tories are firing blanks at one of the few voices of sanity amidst this national chaos tells us all we need to know.Tissue_Price said:
Please see my post below. You are incorrect: Bercow departed from usual custom and procedure today. As it happens, I think he has a point on this occasion.IanB2 said:
He's just following Tory Central Office script of rubbishing the speaker. Who hasn't actually put a foot wrong.Philip_Thompson said:
Fair enough though Cash is rather the odd one out there.Tissue_Price said:Bercow deliberately extending PMQs to call all sorts of significant backbenchers (Clarke, Cash, Miliband, Cooper, Boles, Letwin).
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Cameron even messed up his own resignation. He announced he'd remain as Prime Minister for another three months but lasted only three more weeks as the Conservative Party rushed to elect Theresa May without troubling the membership.Paristonda said:As a hypothetical, where would we be now if Cameron had decided not to resign in 2016, and instead it was him in charge of delivering brexit?
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More vacuum. I wonder when we'll hear an official response from the EU.0
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I know it partly depends on Corbyn but MPs passed the extension by quite a sizable margin. If the alternative is to crash the clown car a little over a month in the future (on the EU early date) I'd have thought the votes would be there. Presumably they could phrase it as a contingency or something - ie if the UK had left the EU by the time the elections came around, you wouldn't have to have them.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are responding to a written request and no doubt the EU lawyers have arrived at this datesolarflare said:I mean call me crazy, but if May wants June 30 and the EU says either earlier as May 23 or much much longer, would that maybe not have come up in conversation at some point recently before she sent them a letter?
The bigger problem for a longer delay is the statutory requirement for the UK to hold EU elections in May and in order to do that, legislation has to be laid before the HOC by the 11th April and then passed, which is three weeks tomorrow
I just cannot see a deadlocked HOC passing it, and as for the attitude of th electorate !!!!!!!!
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I think Cameron would have gone for a softer Brexit, EEA-style.DecrepitJohnL said:
Cameron even messed up his own resignation. He announced he'd remain as Prime Minister for another three months but lasted only three more weeks as the Conservative Party rushed to elect Theresa May without troubling the membership.Paristonda said:As a hypothetical, where would we be now if Cameron had decided not to resign in 2016, and instead it was him in charge of delivering brexit?
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You were wrong, and are unwilling to concede that and back down. That is of course your right, but it means any further accusations of bad faith that you make can be safely ignored.IanB2 said:
The fact that Tories are firing blanks at one of the few voices of sanity amidst this national chaos tells us all we need to know.Tissue_Price said:
Please see my post below. You are incorrect: Bercow departed from usual custom and procedure today. As it happens, I think he has a point on this occasion.IanB2 said:
He's just following Tory Central Office script of rubbishing the speaker. Who hasn't actually put a foot wrong.Philip_Thompson said:
Fair enough though Cash is rather the odd one out there.Tissue_Price said:Bercow deliberately extending PMQs to call all sorts of significant backbenchers (Clarke, Cash, Miliband, Cooper, Boles, Letwin).
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Officially, after TM has addressed the EU leaders tomorrow and then they (27) will give their responseWhisperingOracle said:More vacuum. I wonder when we'll hear an official response from the EU.
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How long does it take to type..Non/Nein?WhisperingOracle said:More vacuum. I wonder when we'll hear an official response from the EU.
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I respond because I enjoy the argument and even though your points are worthless I wouldn't want to hurt your little feelings by ignoring you.DougSeal said:
I have no idea, but you clearly do, because you react to every minor slight to you or your political position on a public message board from people you don't know with abuse and name calling - sometimes within seconds.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why should i give a fuck what a non entity like you thinks?DougSeal said:
Oscar, after nearly three years I would have expected you to have come up with a new put down to replace "Remoaner". You are no longer setting us afire with the annihilating invective that left us so weak. Perhaps, at last, we can pop our head over the parapet and not be destroyed by your withering banter.Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
But do keep it up. You have reached a level of quality in your clever and cutting remarks that the rest of us mere mortals can only gaze up at in wonder.
As I have said many times before this board is entertainment. Nothing we can say here will make a blind bit of difference to what happens.
But I am glad you acknowledge your inferiority.0 -
The way Theresa spoke to MPs I thought she was going to do a full Cromwell and say in the name of god! Go!
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His head looks like a tumescent glans.williamglenn said:0 -
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UKIP/EDL supporters can't fathom irony. Unsurprising really.Richard_Tyndall said:
I respond because I enjoy the argument and even though your points are worthless I wouldn't want to hurt your little feelings by ignoring you.DougSeal said:
I have no idea, but you clearly do, because you react to every minor slight to you or your political position on a public message board from people you don't know with abuse and name calling - sometimes within seconds.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why should i give a fuck what a non entity like you thinks?DougSeal said:
Oscar, after nearly three years I would have expected you to have come up with a new put down to replace "Remoaner". You are no longer setting us afire with the annihilating invective that left us so weak. Perhaps, at last, we can pop our head over the parapet and not be destroyed by your withering banter.Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
But do keep it up. You have reached a level of quality in your clever and cutting remarks that the rest of us mere mortals can only gaze up at in wonder.
As I have said many times before this board is entertainment. Nothing we can say here will make a blind bit of difference to what happens.
But I am glad you acknowledge your inferiority.0 -
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It will not be no as that means no deal next fridaySlackbladder said:
How long does it take to type..Non/Nein?WhisperingOracle said:More vacuum. I wonder when we'll hear an official response from the EU.
I expect it will be the 23rd May but if longer the UK will have to take part in the EU elections in May requiring the HOC to lay legislation by three weeks tomorrow, ......and then pass it in a deadlocked HOC0 -
And there's also the EU court ruling on unilateral revocation, which is something that would have to be closed off under any extension. We'd need to pass a law either enacting the Treaty, revoking A50 or confirming No Deal, before any extension past 30th June would be granted - otherwise we have to pass the bill authorising the EU elections first.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are responding to a written request and no doubt the EU lawyers have arrived at this datesolarflare said:I mean call me crazy, but if May wants June 30 and the EU says either earlier as May 23 or much much longer, would that maybe not have come up in conversation at some point recently before she sent them a letter?
The bigger problem for a longer delay is the statutory requirement for the UK to hold EU elections in May and in order to do that, legislation has to be laid before the HOC by the 11th April and then passed, which is three weeks tomorrow
I just cannot see a deadlocked HOC passing it, and as for the attitude of th electorate !!!!!!!!
A long delay does not seem possible politically or legally
I'm not sure Parliament could pass a motion saying that today is Wednesday at the moment.0 -
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The Commons would pass it if the government proposed it and didn't whip against. But May won't do that, so it won't happen, so we reach a hard barrier at the end of June.edmundintokyo said:
I know it partly depends on Corbyn but MPs passed the extension by quite a sizable margin. If the alternative is to crash the clown car a little over a month in the future (on the EU early date) I'd have thought the votes would be there. Presumably they could phrase it as a contingency or something - ie if the UK had left the EU by the time the elections came around, you wouldn't have to have them.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are responding to a written request and no doubt the EU lawyers have arrived at this datesolarflare said:I mean call me crazy, but if May wants June 30 and the EU says either earlier as May 23 or much much longer, would that maybe not have come up in conversation at some point recently before she sent them a letter?
The bigger problem for a longer delay is the statutory requirement for the UK to hold EU elections in May and in order to do that, legislation has to be laid before the HOC by the 11th April and then passed, which is three weeks tomorrow
I just cannot see a deadlocked HOC passing it, and as for the attitude of th electorate !!!!!!!!
A long delay does not seem possible politically or legally
To be fair she can't propose it without her cabinet falling apart, but those in her Cabinet opposed to no deal should realise that if they don't make this happen now it will be revoke or no deal at the end of June, and a crisis either way.
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Indeed. I have no doubt that any fair minded observer would inevitably conclude, observing our respective choice of language, that I am the one with the fragile ego.Richard_Tyndall said:
I respond because I enjoy the argument and even though your points are worthless I wouldn't want to hurt your little feelings by ignoring you.DougSeal said:
I have no idea, but you clearly do, because you react to every minor slight to you or your political position on a public message board from people you don't know with abuse and name calling - sometimes within seconds.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why should i give a fuck what a non entity like you thinks?DougSeal said:
Oscar, after nearly three years I would have expected you to have come up with a new put down to replace "Remoaner". You are no longer setting us afire with the annihilating invective that left us so weak. Perhaps, at last, we can pop our head over the parapet and not be destroyed by your withering banter.Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
But do keep it up. You have reached a level of quality in your clever and cutting remarks that the rest of us mere mortals can only gaze up at in wonder.
As I have said many times before this board is entertainment. Nothing we can say here will make a blind bit of difference to what happens.
But I am glad you acknowledge your inferiority.0 -
One MEP is planning for all eventualities:
https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/11077631723023564810 -
I recall your previous decision to take a break from this forum when your posts had previously descended to this level of debate,Richard_Tyndall said:
I respond because I enjoy the argument and even though your points are worthless I wouldn't want to hurt your little feelings by ignoring you.DougSeal said:
I have no idea, but you clearly do, because you react to every minor slight to you or your political position on a public message board from people you don't know with abuse and name calling - sometimes within seconds.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why should i give a fuck what a non entity like you thinks?DougSeal said:
Oscar, after nearly three years I would have expected you to have come up with a new put down to replace "Remoaner". You are no longer setting us afire with the annihilating invective that left us so weak. Perhaps, at last, we can pop our head over the parapet and not be destroyed by your withering banter.Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
But do keep it up. You have reached a level of quality in your clever and cutting remarks that the rest of us mere mortals can only gaze up at in wonder.
As I have said many times before this board is entertainment. Nothing we can say here will make a blind bit of difference to what happens.
But I am glad you acknowledge your inferiority.
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https://www.ft.com/content/016171be-4a74-11e9-8b7f-d49067e0f50d
UK to lose 1 trn of financial assets due to Brexit.0 -
The tone of Caroline Flint's point of order to the Speaker about laying legislation by the 11th April was very much against and it looks like many labour mps will not support a longer extensionedmundintokyo said:
I know it partly depends on Corbyn but MPs passed the extension by quite a sizable margin. If the alternative is to crash the clown car a little over a month in the future (on the EU early date) I'd have thought the votes would be there. Presumably they could phrase it as a contingency or something - ie if the UK had left the EU by the time the elections came around, you wouldn't have to have them.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are responding to a written request and no doubt the EU lawyers have arrived at this datesolarflare said:I mean call me crazy, but if May wants June 30 and the EU says either earlier as May 23 or much much longer, would that maybe not have come up in conversation at some point recently before she sent them a letter?
The bigger problem for a longer delay is the statutory requirement for the UK to hold EU elections in May and in order to do that, legislation has to be laid before the HOC by the 11th April and then passed, which is three weeks tomorrow
I just cannot see a deadlocked HOC passing it, and as for the attitude of th electorate !!!!!!!!
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I think the leader of any government of national unity would have to someone like Emma Dent Coad or Mark Francois.Stark_Dawning said:We're reaching the stage where some sort of government of nation unity is required, led by a figure who is respected by all sides. I recall Nick Palmer saying Oliver Letwin is adored across the house for being such a nice, polite and thoughtful chap. Worth a go surely.
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How do you get from "not even ask you whether you have changed your mind" to "tell you you have changed your mind?"CD13 said:Mr g,
If you vote for independence, the UK Parliament will stick it's oar in, fart around for three years and then tell you you've changed your mind. All a bit pointless.
If you were booking a hotel room, given identical offers save that one says "booking cannot be cancelled" and the other says "you can cancel at any time up to 2 days before the booking", which would you go for?0 -
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Wonder whether Nige is getting ready to depart the gravy train?Sandpit said:One MEP is planning for all eventualities:
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Dennis Skinner and Andrew Rosindell are also available.Sean_F said:
I think the leader of any government of national unity would have to someone like Emma Dent Coad or Mark Francois.Stark_Dawning said:We're reaching the stage where some sort of government of nation unity is required, led by a figure who is respected by all sides. I recall Nick Palmer saying Oliver Letwin is adored across the house for being such a nice, polite and thoughtful chap. Worth a go surely.
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New PM followed by a general election and a new government. Hopefully.Scott_P said:0 -
Are they taxable assets?WhisperingOracle said:https://www.ft.com/content/016171be-4a74-11e9-8b7f-d49067e0f50d
UK to lose 1 trn of financial assets due to Brexit.0 -
I refer everyone back to my "is the pub open" comment of the last thread. Let's get drunk. Nothing else to do.0
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On topic, Theresa May is living up to the put-down of Queen Anne: never has so small a woman sat on so big a throne. If she is threatening to quit, MPs should take her at her word and do what is necessary for her to carry out that threat. It's time for someone new.0
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I did ask about a PB meetup last week!RochdalePioneers said:I refer everyone back to my "is the pub open" comment of the last thread. Let's get drunk. Nothing else to do.
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This is very big news if true. Merkel may push back, but inevitably it introduces 1001 other variables, to do with positioning within French and other European domestic politics, into the mix.Scott_P said:0 -
The best thing the French have done for us since Dunkirk/Falklands.Scott_P said:
Now it's up to Parliament. This is a collective test for all of them,
They have four choices:
Deal
No Deal
Revoke
Revote
By doing nothing they ensure No Deal. They are actively choosing No Deal. It will be on all of them.
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Does Andrea Leadsom still have leadership ambitions?WhisperingOracle said:https://www.ft.com/content/016171be-4a74-11e9-8b7f-d49067e0f50d
UK to lose 1 trn of financial assets due to Brexit.
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On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should heed.0 -
So it should be. Enough pissing around already. The 2 year cap was there for a reason.Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
Espece de.....!Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
She knew she'd be looking at AN extension. That's surely sufficient to at least sound out the EU and have an idea of what the reception of her formal request would be likely to be.Harris_Tweed said:
Given that as recently as yesterday's cabinet meeting, she hadn't decided WHAT she planned to request, I admire your optimistic outlook on life..solarflare said:I mean call me crazy, but if May wants June 30 and the EU says either earlier as May 23 or much much longer, would that maybe not have come up in conversation at some point recently before she sent them a letter?
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I think everyone should avoid personal insults.TOPPING said:On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should take heed of.
This forum is a beacon of well and fiercely argued debate and to be fair generally not abusive0 -
6.2 on Betfair for no A50 extension, assuming Macron rumour is true.
It'll probably prove to have been misquoted slightly, or omitting something key ("I will oppose if .....")0 -
Perhaps he was asleep at the time, or his attention had wandered.Scott_P said:0 -
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Didn't know we had any new Cabinet Ministers.Scott_P said:
If the French stick to the traditional response of 'Non!' I think it is good news for us. Any extension will drag things out.
The only good solution is for Parliament to do the job for which they are elected, and decide.
They can decide according to personal views, party views, party loyalty, party whip, manifesto promise etc.
But do the job they were elected to do.0 -
A rare moment of agreement between the two best posters on the site, Sean! Salut Macron. Vive la France!SeanT said:
The best thing the French have done for us since Dunkirk/Falklands.Scott_P said:
Now it's up to Parliament. This is a collective test for all of them,
They have four choices:
Deal
No Deal
Revoke
Revote
By doing nothing they ensure No Deal. They are actively choosing No Deal. It will be on all of them.0 -
And Bercow won't let the commons vote for deal...Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
Revote is out if no delay permitted by MacronSeanT said:
The best thing the French have done for us since Dunkirk/Falklands.Scott_P said:
Now it's up to Parliament. This is a collective test for all of them,
They have four choices:
Deal
No Deal
Revoke
Revote
By doing nothing they ensure No Deal. They are actively choosing No Deal. It will be on all of them.
No deal won't be chosen but might default to
So deal or revoke is the choice that they vote on I think
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They had better get a move on then.Scott_P said:0 -
In those circumstances he would have no choiceIshmael_Z said:
And Bercow won't let the commons vote for deal...Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
The decision to attack Sevastopol, at the start of the Crimean War, was taken at a Cabinet lunch at which most ministers were asleep, after getting drunk.Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
Not coincidentally, I am reading - as a distraction - Five Days in London, all about the crucial week in May 1940, when Churchill and the nation had to decide whether to fight Hitler or sue for peace.
Here we are again. This time our isolation is less heroic.0 -
Well you don't really contribute to an argument. More a series of meaningless contrary statements. "Is this the right room for an argument, I've told you once". Interspersed with a few insults that a 6 year old would be embarrassed to use.Richard_Tyndall said:
I respond because I enjoy the argument and even though your points are worthless I wouldn't want to hurt your little feelings by ignoring you.DougSeal said:
I have no idea, but you clearly do, because you react to every minor slight to you or your political position on a public message board from people you don't know with abuse and name calling - sometimes within seconds.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why should i give a fuck what a non entity like you thinks?DougSeal said:
Oscar, after nearly three years I would have expected you to have come up with a new put down to replace "Remoaner". You are no longer setting us afire with the annihilating invective that left us so weak. Perhaps, at last, we can pop our head over the parapet and not be destroyed by your withering banter.Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
But do keep it up. You have reached a level of quality in your clever and cutting remarks that the rest of us mere mortals can only gaze up at in wonder.
As I have said many times before this board is entertainment. Nothing we can say here will make a blind bit of difference to what happens.
But I am glad you acknowledge your inferiority.
Perhaps you should try to find a room to practise being hit over the head in.0 -
'Labour' is irrelevant. It's every man for himself now.Scott_P said:0 -
Todays climate it is every person for themselvesPeter_the_Punter said:
'Labour' is irrelevant. It's every man for himself now.Scott_P said:0 -
@Super_Jeremy, welcome to the site. It is good to have another Hunt fan on here.0
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Macron would be doing us a huge favour if he says 'non'
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Honours are fairly evenly divided, actually. "Swivel eyed" and similar are pretty tedious, too.TOPPING said:On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should heed.
It is also quite striking how the posters on both sides who tend to call other people morons most often are themselves in the bottom 10% of posters ranked by IQ.0 -
Is there any guarantee that the EU would accept that unicorn?Scott_P said:0 -
I think Macron MIGHT change his mind if the UK said it was having a new referendum. That would be a route to cancelling Brexit, which is what he wants - especially as the expected business from the City has not arrived in Paris, instead heading mainly for Dublin, Frankfurt, and Amsterdam.Andrew said:6.2 on Betfair for no A50 extension, assuming Macron rumour is true.
It'll probably prove to have been misquoted slightly, or omitting something key ("I will oppose if .....")0 -
Or revokeBig_G_NorthWales said:Macron would be doing us a huge favour if he says 'non'
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Maybe Farage has lobbied him.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But, I see the attraction of telling the Commons to piss or get off the pot.0 -
The insults are the best bit on here, the main reason I come. Tyndal's are the funniest. Even though he is a twerp.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think everyone should avoid personal insults.TOPPING said:On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should take heed of.
This forum is a beacon of well and fiercely argued debate and to be fair generally not abusive0 -
Hed be doing the Tories a huge favourBig_G_NorthWales said:Macron would be doing us a huge favour if he says 'non'
HOC would have to decide on deal or no deal0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Some shameless self-promotion for the forthcoming final part of my trilogy: http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/2019/03/crown-of-blood-out-6-april.html0 -
That seems to me a tad optimistic at this stage of the game...Scott_P said:
Firstly, MPs have shown themselves utterly unwilling, collectively, to vote for any positive action, anyway, so I'm not seeing the momentum here even ignoring the basics of parliamentary arithmetic.
But even so, all the mood music is that an extension will be conditional on MV3. So wouldn't it need pitching and agreeing before (a) MV3 passes or (b) next Friday? Expecting MPs to act both positively and in a timely matter seems "brave", minister.0 -
Ishmael_Z said:
Honours are fairly evenly divided, actually. "Swivel eyed" and similar are pretty tedious, too.TOPPING said:On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should heed.
It is also quite striking how the posters on both sides who tend to call other people morons most often are themselves in the bottom 10% of posters ranked by IQ.
True, it is classic Dunning-Kruger, or as I like to call it. Jess Phillips Syndrome.Ishmael_Z said:
Honours are fairly evenly divided, actually. "Swivel eyed" and similar are pretty tedious, too.TOPPING said:On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should heed.
It is also quite striking how the posters on both sides who tend to call other people morons most often are themselves in the bottom 10% of posters ranked by IQ.0 -
Or a longer extension for a referendum, GE, or negotiation of a different deal which would win Labour supportphiliph said:
Or revokeBig_G_NorthWales said:Macron would be doing us a huge favour if he says 'non'
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Does anyone know the facts underlying the 1604 ruling against asking the same question twice? I can't find anything on google but I strongly suspect that it was intended to exclude second debates on unbelievably *unimportant* subjects, and is therefore being misapplied here.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In those circumstances he would have no choiceIshmael_Z said:
And Bercow won't let the commons vote for deal...Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
Hardly. Unlike you I have a clear defined position on the issues. I also have the sense to recognise that my preferred outcome is extremly unlikely and to be reconciled with that. I would suggest my position on Brexit is better understood by the long term contributors on here than most other people's, not least by those who disagree with it.Super_Jeremy said:
Well you don't really contribute to an argument. More a series of meaningless contrary statements. "Is this the right room for an argument, I've told you once". Interspersed with a few insults that a 6 year old would be embarrassed to use.Richard_Tyndall said:
I respond because I enjoy the argument and even though your points are worthless I wouldn't want to hurt your little feelings by ignoring you.DougSeal said:
I have no idea, but you clearly do, because you react to every minor slight to you or your political position on a public message board from people you don't know with abuse and name calling - sometimes within seconds.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why should i give a fuck what a non entity like you thinks?DougSeal said:
Oscar, after nearly three years I would have expected you to have come up with a new put down to replace "Remoaner". You are no longer setting us afire with the annihilating invective that left us so weak. Perhaps, at last, we can pop our head over the parapet and not be destroyed by your withering banter.Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
But do keep it up. You have reached a level of quality in your clever and cutting remarks that the rest of us mere mortals can only gaze up at in wonder.
As I have said many times before this board is entertainment. Nothing we can say here will make a blind bit of difference to what happens.
But I am glad you acknowledge your inferiority.
Perhaps you should try to find a room to practise being hit over the head in.
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Try not to be too hard on him, he is a UKIP supporter. Sad, but true.Super_Jeremy said:
Well you don't really contribute to an argument. More a series of meaningless contrary statements. "Is this the right room for an argument, I've told you once". Interspersed with a few insults that a 6 year old would be embarrassed to use.Richard_Tyndall said:
I respond because I enjoy the argument and even though your points are worthless I wouldn't want to hurt your little feelings by ignoring you.DougSeal said:
I have no idea, but you clearly do, because you react to every minor slight to you or your political position on a public message board from people you don't know with abuse and name calling - sometimes within seconds.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why should i give a fuck what a non entity like you thinks?DougSeal said:
Oscar, after nearly three years I would have expected you to have come up with a new put down to replace "Remoaner". You are no longer setting us afire with the annihilating invective that left us so weak. Perhaps, at last, we can pop our head over the parapet and not be destroyed by your withering banter.Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
But do keep it up. You have reached a level of quality in your clever and cutting remarks that the rest of us mere mortals can only gaze up at in wonder.
As I have said many times before this board is entertainment. Nothing we can say here will make a blind bit of difference to what happens.
But I am glad you acknowledge your inferiority.
Perhaps you should try to find a room to practise being hit over the head in.0 -
On a completely different topic, I thought this was quite remarkable for several reasons:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/20/super-smeller-helps-develop-swab-test-for-parkinsons-disease
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Comments here very supportive of what he's reported as saying:Andrew said:6.2 on Betfair for no A50 extension, assuming Macron rumour is true.
It'll probably prove to have been misquoted slightly, or omitting something key ("I will oppose if .....")
https://www.lepoint.fr/politique/emmanuel-berretta/emmanuel-macron-refuse-de-reporter-la-date-du-brexit-20-03-2019-2302680_1897.php
egPour une fois je dirai bravo Macron.
Les anglais nous emm... Ils ont voulu sortir très bien dehors. Ils ont suffisamment bénéficié de régimes d’exception. Go away !0 -
I enjoy Malcolmg's insults.Recidivist said:
The insults are the best bit on here, the main reason I come. Tyndal's are the funniest. Even though he is a twerp.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think everyone should avoid personal insults.TOPPING said:On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should take heed of.
This forum is a beacon of well and fiercely argued debate and to be fair generally not abusive
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I'm confused why June 30 is out but May 23 is OK. Surely same problems exist with both?
Hypothetically if we unexpectedly revoke on May 22 then surely all the same legal problems with regards to the elections exist as if we do so on June 29. We won't be able to magically hold the elections on time.0 -
Longer extension seems most unlikely now due to the EU elections and our deadline to pass legislation for them in three weeks. I do not see the votes in the HOC to pass UK EU elections into law in timeStereotomy said:
Or a longer extension for a referendum, GE, or negotiation of a different deal which would win Labour supportphiliph said:
Or revokeBig_G_NorthWales said:Macron would be doing us a huge favour if he says 'non'
HOC would have to decide on deal or no deal0 -
But I wasn't enjoying it then as it was all so tedious and going nowhere. Now it is fun again.IanB2 said:
I recall your previous decision to take a break from this forum when your posts had previously descended to this level of debate,Richard_Tyndall said:
I respond because I enjoy the argument and even though your points are worthless I wouldn't want to hurt your little feelings by ignoring you.DougSeal said:
I have no idea, but you clearly do, because you react to every minor slight to you or your political position on a public message board from people you don't know with abuse and name calling - sometimes within seconds.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why should i give a fuck what a non entity like you thinks?DougSeal said:
Oscar, after nearly three years I would have expected you to have come up with a new put down to replace "Remoaner". You are no longer setting us afire with the annihilating invective that left us so weak. Perhaps, at last, we can pop our head over the parapet and not be destroyed by your withering banter.Richard_Tyndall said:
The disgrace is Remoaners like you using every scare story and every delay to try and overturn the largest democratic vote in British history.Super_Jeremy said:Clearly the appetite for Brexit is no longer there and it must be cancelled. I cannot see how it is tenable any more. Every day a new story about how leave lied and cheated. This is not democracy. It is a disgrace.
But do keep it up. You have reached a level of quality in your clever and cutting remarks that the rest of us mere mortals can only gaze up at in wonder.
As I have said many times before this board is entertainment. Nothing we can say here will make a blind bit of difference to what happens.
But I am glad you acknowledge your inferiority.0 -
Would you like to post a list please, Ishmael, of the bottom 10% of posters ranked by IQ, together with your real name and address, and details of the institute to which you wish the various parts of your body to be sent for research purposes?Super_Jeremy said:Ishmael_Z said:
Honours are fairly evenly divided, actually. "Swivel eyed" and similar are pretty tedious, too.TOPPING said:On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should heed.
It is also quite striking how the posters on both sides who tend to call other people morons most often are themselves in the bottom 10% of posters ranked by IQ.
True, it is classic Dunning-Kruger, or as I like to call it. Jess Phillips Syndrome.Ishmael_Z said:
Honours are fairly evenly divided, actually. "Swivel eyed" and similar are pretty tedious, too.TOPPING said:On the main issue of the day I have no problems with insults. We are on an internet chatroom, after all, albeit a superior one.
But I do have a problem with the no you fuck off/moron/remoaner insults which are simply boring and lazy. That is a bigger crime.
Something the Brexiter dolts on here should heed.
It is also quite striking how the posters on both sides who tend to call other people morons most often are themselves in the bottom 10% of posters ranked by IQ.0
