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Ha, great minds etc.OnlyLivingBoy said:This is a typically thought-provoking piece from Fintan O'Toole.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-are-the-english-ready-for-self-government-1.3830474?mode=amp#.XJCYvqkt-cs.twitter0 -
That's a somewhat blatant category error. I'm afraid, @Foxy !Foxy said:
Yes, but important to show the depth of Pro Europe opinion in the country, for the world to see that we will not be defined by narrow minded nativism. See you there, weather forecast looks good!Recidivist said:Just been emailing around organising transport for our trip to London for the march on Saturday. It's a measure of the confused state of the government's handling that we aren't entirely sure what we'll be protesting against/for yet.
There is no contradiction between supporting Brexit and being pro-Europe.
I view Brexit as being profoundly outward-looking.
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A quick glance at twitter this morning seems to indicate that remainers are rather impressed with their new Emperor, Napolejohn Bercowparte0
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Obvs.Theuniondivvie said:
Ha, great minds etc.OnlyLivingBoy said:This is a typically thought-provoking piece from Fintan O'Toole.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-are-the-english-ready-for-self-government-1.3830474?mode=amp#.XJCYvqkt-cs.twitter0 -
how dare you - I have 20:20 visionAlanbrooke said:
LOLTOPPING said:
Speak for yourself. I knew what I was voting for in 2016 and I would be very content with the deal now, which is leaving (much as some doltish Leavers don’t seem to think so).Alanbrooke said:
preciselyOblitusSumMe said:
It would mean all those things, none of those things and everything else you can imagine.Alanbrooke said:
What does Pro Europe actually mean ?Foxy said:
Yes, but important to show the depth of Pro Europe opinion in the country, for the world to see that we will not be defined by narrow minded nativism. See you there, weather forecast looks good!Recidivist said:Just been emailing around organising transport for our trip to London for the march on Saturday. It's a measure of the confused state of the government's handling that we aren't entirely sure what we'll be protesting against/for yet.
Full integration into the EU with currency, borders and defence ?
Some halfway house which is neither in nor out ?
Eating croissants while holidaying in the Dordogne ?
Can you explain
Just as Brexit has been impossible to pin down. But right now it simply means not Brexit, not this mess, and especially not Theresa May's mess.
remainers dont understand what they are seeking to remain in, therein lies a whole new set of problems
If the government forces another referendum on us I would have a lot of thinking to do. And googling.
how could you know what you were voting for. Youre old and stupid and blinded by buses and you were lied to.
Really Mr T stop bigging yourself up :-)
I knew in as much as that sage put it - voting to Remain was voting for a known unknown.0 -
Talking of marches, anyone left on the Leave Means Leave demo extraordinare?0
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15,300 minutes!OblitusSumMe said:
255 hours!GIN1138 said:Morning PB - Unless there's a legal change we're now ten day from "departure" deal or no deal!
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Of course! It must have been the Farage posters.MattW said:
That's a somewhat blatant category error. I'm afraid, @Foxy !Foxy said:
Yes, but important to show the depth of Pro Europe opinion in the country, for the world to see that we will not be defined by narrow minded nativism. See you there, weather forecast looks good!Recidivist said:Just been emailing around organising transport for our trip to London for the march on Saturday. It's a measure of the confused state of the government's handling that we aren't entirely sure what we'll be protesting against/for yet.
There is no contradiction between supporting Brexit and being pro-Europe.
I view Brexit as being profoundly outward-looking.0 -
Napoleon was 2cm taller than Bercow.TrèsDifficile said:A quick glance at twitter this morning seems to indicate that remainers are rather impressed with their new Emperor, Napolejohn Bercowparte
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The part of the cow being its arse?TrèsDifficile said:A quick glance at twitter this morning seems to indicate that remainers are rather impressed with their new Emperor, Napolejohn Bercowparte
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I think the government has reached quite a reasonable compromise point given the constraints. What they've done is found that they can't implement Brexit actually happening, but they can implement Brexit Thinking, ie a total dogged determination to ignore the world as it actually is and act as if it was the way you want it to be.Scott_P said:0 -
It appears to be a pleasant thirty-strong ramble here -_Anazina_ said:Talking of marches, anyone left on the Leave Means Leave demo extraordinare?
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1107740598453325829
..but an ineptly threatening Loyalist march here :
https://twitter.com/cerijanegray/status/11079262774141788160 -
Only if it stops raining in Wales.Alanbrooke said:
Im glad you have come round to my point of view. Ive been telling you for ages there will be no serious consequences post Brexit but youve been glooming me with economic disasters, food shortgaes, war death and plague.SouthamObserver said:
The luxury of an entirely consequence-free vote. Lucky lad. He will continue to benefit from all the EU offers.Alanbrooke said:
my son's not much different. UK and Irish passports, French girlfriend, supports Ireland in Rugby, England in football, follows Paris saint Germain, voted Leave as he's totally cynical about the EU bureaucracy.CD13 said:Mr Brooke,
I'd define my son as being pro-Europe. He lives and works in Copenhagen but is amused by some of their characteristics - in a very British way. He has an Irish passport but supports the English rugby team (league and union). He's marrying a Danish woman, can speak Danish, but they both speak English at home. And he'd probably have voted Remain, but remains cynical about the EU as an organisation.
In other news youve been beaten to the annual drought warning by the Environment Agency
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https://twitter.com/Andrew_ComRes/status/1107926870354522112?s=20
I’m sure Mr Hawkins is paraphrasing the final entry...0 -
You can’t torture the English language like that.TrèsDifficile said:A quick glance at twitter this morning seems to indicate that remainers are rather impressed with their new Emperor, Napolejohn Bercowparte
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Private Pike?CarlottaVance said:https://twitter.com/Andrew_ComRes/status/1107926870354522112?s=20
I’m sure Mr Hawkins is paraphrasing the final entry...
Is this a serious poll? Or some sort of satire?
Has ComRes reverted to being a non-serious pollster again (ComedyResults) ?0 -
Which part of the English language is Napoleon or Bonaparte? Are you sure you're not a frenchman?TheScreamingEagles said:
You can’t torture the English language like that.TrèsDifficile said:A quick glance at twitter this morning seems to indicate that remainers are rather impressed with their new Emperor, Napolejohn Bercowparte
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The disgraced national security risk Liam Fox in being out of his depth shocker.Scott_P said:0 -
Perhaps I could suggest one of those PB ‘win a geeky politics book’ sweepstakes, whereby we have a collective wager on Saturday’s march.
The question: predict the ratio of attendees on Saturday compared to Farage’s Damp Racist Islanders’ March
Place your bets!!0 -
You are undercooking the numbers!WhisperingOracle said:
It appears to be a pleasant thirty-strong ramble here -_Anazina_ said:Talking of marches, anyone left on the Leave Means Leave demo extraordinare?
https://twitter.com/ByeDonkeys/status/1107740598453325829
..but an ineptly threatening Loyalist march here :
https://twitter.com/cerijanegray/status/1107926277414178816
There are at least 26 people there!0 -
Trouble is that Mansion House was on the manifesto last time, and the difference between Mansion House and Chequers/WA is mere reality.MaxPB said:.....to bind Tory MPs to the deal with a manifesto commitment.
Supporting Mansion House and rejecting Chequers is like dating Mary Kate, finding out she's a bit of a diva, and so fetishising Ashley, ignoring her equal divaness.
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Scott_P said:
Funny, we don’t hear from the likes of Mortimer over-analysing Tory poll leads much these days.0 -
People may love or hate BoJo but really, to think that he would have the application to sit down for more than two minutes to negotiate anything (and then not tweet about it thereafter thereby trashing any progress made) is the most wishful and fanciful of thinking.CarlottaVance said:https://twitter.com/Andrew_ComRes/status/1107926870354522112?s=20
I’m sure Mr Hawkins is paraphrasing the final entry...0 -
Next time Leavers say Brexit would be a success if we had a Leaver as Prime Minister I’d cite the competence (sic) of Chris Grayling and the disgraced national security risk Liam Fox. Can you imagine being a patient of Doctor Fox?
I don’t even have to cite Boris Johnson’s tenure as Foreign Secretary.0 -
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Grayling organised for May to be PM. Enough said.TheScreamingEagles said:Next time Leavers say Brexit would be a success if we had a Leaver as Prime Minister I’d cite the competence (sic) of Chris Grayling and the disgraced national security risk Liam Fox. Can you imagine being a patient of Doctor Fox?
I don’t even have to cite Boris Johnson’s tenure as Foreign Secretary.0 -
The entire sentence.TrèsDifficile said:
Which part of the English language is Napoleon or Bonaparte? Are you sure you're not a frenchman?TheScreamingEagles said:
You can’t torture the English language like that.TrèsDifficile said:A quick glance at twitter this morning seems to indicate that remainers are rather impressed with their new Emperor, Napolejohn Bercowparte
Only a pervert wouldn’t know that.0 -
I’ve only seen George Osborne’s tweet from yesterday.
Magnificent.0 -
100% agreedSquareRoot said:0 -
Can you imagine being a patient of Doctor Fox?TheScreamingEagles said:Next time Leavers say Brexit would be a success if we had a Leaver as Prime Minister I’d cite the competence (sic) of Chris Grayling and the disgraced national security risk Liam Fox. Can you imagine being a patient of Doctor Fox?
I don’t even have to cite Boris Johnson’s tenure as Foreign Secretary.
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His book on the crash emphasized that it was obviously coming when croissants were being sold outside D4. It’s like reading a Polly Toynbee and noting that she is the epitome of English intellectual thought.Alanbrooke said:
The man's a total fkwit. he lives in a world where Queen Victoria is still on the throne and the english aspire for world domination.OnlyLivingBoy said:This is a typically thought-provoking piece from Fintan O'Toole.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-are-the-english-ready-for-self-government-1.3830474?mode=amp#.XJCYvqkt-cs.twitter
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You don't think his clear on-going bitterness and distress nearly three years after being sacked makes him look rather pathetic?TheScreamingEagles said:I’ve only seen George Osborne’s tweet from yesterday.
Magnificent.0 -
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That's a benefit in its favour for May.not_on_fire said:OblitusSumMe said:
Logically I don't see an alternative May will go for.TheJezziah said:
Good displacement activity, people can blame Bercow for a bit instead of concentrating on the issues. But a decision has to eventually be made and god knows what it is but I don't expect yours to be the route taken...MaxPB said:What's the point in bringing MV3 back, even if the speaker doesn't rule it out of order it will fail by at least 50 votes. Even if the DUP can be bought, that's 30 votes short. Where are the government going to find 10 further converts and 10-20 abstentions?
Bercow did the government and May a favour, go back to Brussels, get an extension and find a deal that will pass through the house or hold an election to bind Tory MPs to the deal with a manifesto commitment.
I guess that is what you think the government should do rather than what you think it will do?
She is committed now to ask for a long extension. A long extension must have a purpose. Another election is preferable to another referendum.
Why? A GE would effectivley be a 2nd referendum but with the votes of anyone who doesn’t live in a safe seat ignoredOblitusSumMe said:
Logically I don't see an alternative May will go for.TheJezziah said:
Good displacement activity, people can blame Bercow for a bit instead of concentrating on the issues. But a decision has to eventually be made and god knows what it is but I don't expect yours to be the route taken...MaxPB said:What's the point in bringing MV3 back, even if the speaker doesn't rule it out of order it will fail by at least 50 votes. Even if the DUP can be bought, that's 30 votes short. Where are the government going to find 10 further converts and 10-20 abstentions?
Bercow did the government and May a favour, go back to Brussels, get an extension and find a deal that will pass through the house or hold an election to bind Tory MPs to the deal with a manifesto commitment.
I guess that is what you think the government should do rather than what you think it will do?
She is committed now to ask for a long extension. A long extension must have a purpose. Another election is preferable to another referendum.0 -
Until a few weeks ago there had been little question of a UK govt putting the same question repeatedly to parliament. It was also extremely rare for a govt not to pull a vote that it knew it was going to lose. Brexit has taken us through the looking glass.IanB2 said:
People don't need to be experts in parliamentary procedure to see the vacuity in putting the same thing to the vote over and over.WhisperingOracle said:
Yes. And beyond the tabloid headline reaction my sense is also that the popular reaction to this isn't quite as the government might have hoped. Large numbers of reader contributors at the Mail's website, for instance, seem to be vastly enjoying this reversal for the government.NickPalmer said:
Good luck with that strategy. Bercow enjoys people trying to intimidate him and makes a point of doing the opposite.Scott_P said:0 -
No.GIN1138 said:
You don't think his clear on-going bitterness nearly three years after being sacked makes him look rather pathetic?TheScreamingEagles said:I’ve only seen George Osborne’s tweet from yesterday.
Magnificent.
She’s reaping what she sowed. She was nasty to people on the way up, now she’s on the way down she’s getting it back with interest.
Just like Gordon Brown.0 -
You don't bet, am I close?SquareRoot said:0 -
It's almost like we can still cooperate with our neighbours where it suits us to do so without being enmeshed in a project to create a single unified country.williamglenn said:0 -
Your "fat fingers" do more to pervert the English language than I could do if I tried my hardest.TheScreamingEagles said:
The entire sentence.TrèsDifficile said:
Which part of the English language is Napoleon or Bonaparte? Are you sure you're not a frenchman?TheScreamingEagles said:
You can’t torture the English language like that.TrèsDifficile said:A quick glance at twitter this morning seems to indicate that remainers are rather impressed with their new Emperor, Napolejohn Bercowparte
Only a pervert wouldn’t know that.
You've just claimed that you've "only seen George Osborne’s tweet from yesterday".
I expect you didn't mean that.0 -
If there's a majority for the deal it will go through one way or the other. Perhaps standing orders will be set aside, perhaps some new wording will be devised, perhaps we will come up with a new parliamentary session, perhaps something else.Morris_Dancer said:Good morning, everyone.
Mr. rkrkrk, he did remove the slim chance of the deal going through. Perhaps more significantly, whatever dubious action he takes next in this matter will be seen in the light of what he did yesterday.0 -
http://twitter.com/NickBoles/status/1107930087364665345
The problem with this is that the act of preparing the vote, and the weeklong pressure leading up to it in the context of EU deadlines, was part of the likelihood of it passing. If something no longer seems possible or active, the coalition for it, painfully patched together by whips, can just as quickly collapse again.0 -
Seems like a good idea - yes?Philip_Thompson said:
It's almost like we can still cooperate with our neighbours where it suits us to do so without being enmeshed in a project to create a single unified country.williamglenn said:
I expect that’s why Mr Glenn posted it....0 -
Put through electoral calculus, that gives one of the most well-hung Parliaments ever:Scott_P said:
Con: 285 (first in seats, second in votes)
Lab: 270 (down in votes, up in seats)
SNP: 46
LD: 20
TIG: 7
Plaid: 3
Green: 1
UKIP: 0
(N Ire: 18)
Make a Government out of that little lot...0 -
Rainbow alliance offering two referendums.Andy_Cooke said:
Put through electoral calculus, that gives one of the most well-hung Parliaments ever:Scott_P said:
Con: 285 (first in seats, second in votes)
Lab: 270 (down in votes, up in seats)
SNP: 46
LD: 20
TIG: 7
Plaid: 3
Green: 1
UKIP: 0
(N Ire: 18)
Make a Government out of that little lot...
One on Brexit, one on Scottish Independence.0 -
"Beto is no Bobby Kennedy"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/19/beto-orourke-may-dazzle-democrats-good-looks-wont-win-white/0 -
"vot is it you Britishers actually vont from ze Brexit?"GIN1138 said:
Private Pike?CarlottaVance said:https://twitter.com/Andrew_ComRes/status/1107926870354522112?s=20
I’m sure Mr Hawkins is paraphrasing the final entry...
Is this a serious poll? Or some sort of satire?
Has ComRes reverted to being a non-serious pollster again (ComedyResults) ?
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On that basis Osborne would never have made it down, he would have been lynched firstTheScreamingEagles said:
No.GIN1138 said:
You don't think his clear on-going bitterness nearly three years after being sacked makes him look rather pathetic?TheScreamingEagles said:I’ve only seen George Osborne’s tweet from yesterday.
Magnificent.
She’s reaping what she sowed. She was nasty to people on the way up, now she’s on the way down she’s getting it back with interest.
Just like Gordon Brown.0 -
@rcs1000 seemed to think Liam Fox could have got a better rollover deal with Norway. How?
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“Global laughing stock with trashed reputation”.....
The percentage of overseas students making Britain their first choice for business school has increased since the EU referendum, suggesting that fears about Brexit damaging the sector were overblown...
Some 54 per cent of test takers surveyed by GMAC last December said Brexit had made no impact on the attractiveness of Britain as a place to study, up from 46 per cent in December 2016. Moreover, 71 per cent of UK business schools included in the study reported a year-on-year increase in applications.
The British education system also continues to be well respected among overseas applicants, and Britain has maintained its reputation among MBA students as a great place to launch an international career.
https://www.ft.com/content/4abbf190-497a-11e9-8b7f-d49067e0f50d
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"Biden seemed to hint at his bid last week, telling an audience that he has the "most progressive record" of anyone running or considering running for president.rottenborough said:
"I have the most progressive record of anybody running for the — anybody who would run," he said."
I'm sure he missed out the word "bigly" in there.....0 -
Those have chips in them.TheScreamingEagles said:
The name, virtually everywhere I've been, is therefore "Chip butty".
I don't see "butty" on the list; it is therefore horrifically wrong.0 -
A disgraced MP has pleaded with voters not to remove her from the House of Commons as she insisted she is innocent - despite being found guilty by a court.
A recall petition will open on Tuesday, in which local voters will be asked whether Fiona Onasanya should lose her seat as MP for Peterborough.
https://news.sky.com/story/im-innocent-says-disgraced-mp-fiona-onasanya-as-she-faces-ejection-by-voters-116694840 -
Private Pike is our esteemed Defence Secretary, Mr Gavin Williamson PC MP. Nicknames are used for all results.GIN1138 said:
Private Pike?CarlottaVance said:https://twitter.com/Andrew_ComRes/status/1107926870354522112?s=20
I’m sure Mr Hawkins is paraphrasing the final entry...
Is this a serious poll? Or some sort of satire?
Has ComRes reverted to being a non-serious pollster again (ComedyResults) ?0 -
"Rising above it" would be far more dignified for Osborne than making a public spectacle of himself on Twitter IMO but it's up to him...TheScreamingEagles said:
No.GIN1138 said:
You don't think his clear on-going bitterness nearly three years after being sacked makes him look rather pathetic?TheScreamingEagles said:I’ve only seen George Osborne’s tweet from yesterday.
Magnificent.
She’s reaping what she sowed. She was nasty to people on the way up, now she’s on the way down she’s getting it back with interest.
Just like Gordon Brown.0 -
Well the jury disagreed, and the court of appeal said she didn’t have a leg to stand on.TheScreamingEagles said:A disgraced MP has pleaded with voters not to remove her from the House of Commons as she insisted she is innocent - despite being found guilty by a court.
A recall petition will open on Tuesday, in which local voters will be asked whether Fiona Onasanya should lose her seat as MP for Peterborough.
https://news.sky.com/story/im-innocent-says-disgraced-mp-fiona-onasanya-as-she-faces-ejection-by-voters-11669484
To anyone who knows someone in Peterborough, remind them about the petition. Their town deserves to be represented in Parliament by an honest man or woman.0 -
Pitiful turnout by Brexiteers.WhisperingOracle said:
It appears to be a pleasant thirty-strong ramble here -_Anazina_ said:Talking of marches, anyone left on the Leave Means Leave demo extraordinare?
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1107740598453325829
..but an ineptly threatening Loyalist march here :
https://twitter.com/cerijanegray/status/11079262774141788160 -
It is only a butty with something inside it. cf egg banjo.Andy_Cooke said:
Those have chips in them.TheScreamingEagles said:
The name, virtually everywhere I've been, is therefore "Chip butty".
I don't see "butty" on the list; it is therefore horrifically wrong.0 -
Motion passed. Speaker promptly resigns, as do his deputies.CarlottaVance said:
House has to elect replacements. More delay.0 -
Here's a few more...the Hartlepool posselogical_song said:
Pitiful turnout by Brexiteers.WhisperingOracle said:
It appears to be a pleasant thirty-strong ramble here -_Anazina_ said:Talking of marches, anyone left on the Leave Means Leave demo extraordinare?
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1107740598453325829
..but an ineptly threatening Loyalist march here :
https://twitter.com/cerijanegray/status/1107926277414178816
http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/b00004y3oq.02.lzzzzzzz.jpg0 -
Ce n'est pas magnifique, et ce n'est pas la guerre: c'est de la folie.edmundintokyo said:0 -
That would be quite a horrible result, would probably lead to another election when the budget couldn’t get passed.Andy_Cooke said:
Put through electoral calculus, that gives one of the most well-hung Parliaments ever:Scott_P said:
Con: 285 (first in seats, second in votes)
Lab: 270 (down in votes, up in seats)
SNP: 46
LD: 20
TIG: 7
Plaid: 3
Green: 1
UKIP: 0
(N Ire: 18)
Make a Government out of that little lot...
Either Con + DUP + LD or Lab +SNP+ PC + LD to get a majority. Old Uncle Vince might be happy.0 -
A 'stottie' is a particular type of bread in the North East and it doesn't look like that.Andy_Cooke said:
Those have chips in them.TheScreamingEagles said:
The name, virtually everywhere I've been, is therefore "Chip butty".
I don't see "butty" on the list; it is therefore horrifically wrong.0 -
And I think you're mistakenly including Labour as a "pro remain" Party. Pro-remain membership , maybe. But not leadership.MarqueeMark said:0 -
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Perhaps you should visit Botham's of Whitby, N.Yorks..TheScreamingEagles said:
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Not necessarily. Suspending Standing Orders is accepted as a reasonable thing to do in exceptional circumstances, but not simply when the government wants to use its majority to override the rules. If there really is a majority for May's deal then, given the moment of national crisis, I don't think the Speaker would even need to think of resigning.OldKingCole said:
Motion passed. Speaker promptly resigns, as do his deputies.CarlottaVance said:
House has to elect replacements. More delay.
What the ruling does do - and we should be grateful - is make the government think whether it might do something more useful than keep failing with the same proposal and doing nothing else to resolve the matter. It also has the benefit that we will soon know how long the extension offered by the EU is going to be.0 -
Did ComRes not do a VI without TIG?0
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I've heard chip butty used. Never heard of a stotty.
Edited extra bit:
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Employment has reached 76.1%; real wages are up by 1.5%.0
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There seems to be a weird contradiction wherein Leavers seem reluctant to take part in democratic protests or public displays of support in any great numbers, while we're told if their desires are thwarted that the rivers of Leaverstan will be foaming with much blood. Otoh Remainers turn out in their 100s of 1000s, yet the chances of them resorting to violent acts of terrorism are precisely zero whatever the outcome.logical_song said:
Pitiful turnout by Brexiteers.WhisperingOracle said:
It appears to be a pleasant thirty-strong ramble here -_Anazina_ said:Talking of marches, anyone left on the Leave Means Leave demo extraordinare?
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1107740598453325829
..but an ineptly threatening Loyalist march here :
https://twitter.com/cerijanegray/status/11079262774141788160 -
They got that wrong. "Stotty" is a word of the NE. They used it at Durham.Morris_Dancer said:I've heard chip butty used. Never heard of a stotty.
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Sure. Minority Labour government with SNP/LD confidence and supply. Don't even need TIG or Green. Probably corresponds to median opinion - "yeah, we want a change from the Tory shambles, but we don't want Corbyn unconstrained by moderates".Andy_Cooke said:
Put through electoral calculus, that gives one of the most well-hung Parliaments ever:Scott_P said:
Con: 285 (first in seats, second in votes)
Lab: 270 (down in votes, up in seats)
SNP: 46
LD: 20
TIG: 7
Plaid: 3
Green: 1
UKIP: 0
(N Ire: 18)
Make a Government out of that little lot...0 -
Irellevant but correct.. polls are a snapshot at best and right jow they are all over the place..edmundintokyo said:
You don't bet, am I close?SquareRoot said:0 -
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He's enjoying every minute.....
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1107935118394642432
Though quite what he doing out & about at that time of the morning.....0 -
perfectly describes themAlanbrooke said:
the tories are just a shower of shite atm, no unity, no ideas, no purpose.Casino_Royale said:The rest of the article is fair comment. May clearly needed a majority of about 50+ and came up about 35 MPs short.
This is why I find it so hard to listen to the criticisms of Nick Timothy, who is totally culpable in this.
fortunately for them Labour are just as bad.0 -
"Speaker promptly resigns".OldKingCole said:
Motion passed. Speaker promptly resigns, as do his deputies.CarlottaVance said:
House has to elect replacements. More delay.
In a sea of words over Brexit, the three most unlikely........0 -
Came across well to me.CarlottaVance said:I do think the picture editors have done a more entertaining job than the headline writers.
Bercow is his own worst enemy (not while I'm alive, says Andrea) - a procedurally perfectly defensible move (arguably a week late) done before the government tabled any motion, thus saving it some embarrassment, snookered by his smug pompous hectoring style.0 -
Much cheaper since sterling plummetedCarlottaVance said:“Global laughing stock with trashed reputation”.....
The percentage of overseas students making Britain their first choice for business school has increased since the EU referendum, suggesting that fears about Brexit damaging the sector were overblown...
Some 54 per cent of test takers surveyed by GMAC last December said Brexit had made no impact on the attractiveness of Britain as a place to study, up from 46 per cent in December 2016. Moreover, 71 per cent of UK business schools included in the study reported a year-on-year increase in applications.
The British education system also continues to be well respected among overseas applicants, and Britain has maintained its reputation among MBA students as a great place to launch an international career.
https://www.ft.com/content/4abbf190-497a-11e9-8b7f-d49067e0f50d0 -
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They'd probably settle for one who isn't an embarrassment.....Sandpit said:
Well the jury disagreed, and the court of appeal said she didn’t have a leg to stand on.TheScreamingEagles said:A disgraced MP has pleaded with voters not to remove her from the House of Commons as she insisted she is innocent - despite being found guilty by a court.
A recall petition will open on Tuesday, in which local voters will be asked whether Fiona Onasanya should lose her seat as MP for Peterborough.
https://news.sky.com/story/im-innocent-says-disgraced-mp-fiona-onasanya-as-she-faces-ejection-by-voters-11669484
To anyone who knows someone in Peterborough, remind them about the petition. Their town deserves to be represented in Parliament by an honest man or woman.0 -
IanB2 said:
Not necessarily. Suspending Standing Orders is accepted as a reasonable thing to do in exceptional circumstances, but not simply when the government wants to use its majority to override the rules. If there really is a majority for May's deal then, given the moment of national crisis, I don't think the Speaker would even need to think of resigning.OldKingCole said:
Motion passed. Speaker promptly resigns, as do his deputies.CarlottaVance said:
House has to elect replacements. More delay.
What the ruling does do - and we should be grateful - is make the government think whether it might do something more useful than keep failing with the same proposal and doing nothing else to resolve the matter. It also has the benefit that we will soon know how long the extension offered by the EU is going to be.
Hmm. Doing the same thing several times and expecting a different result is of course......0 -
That jumper appears to be from his student days in the 1980s. Certainly never a dull moment with our John.CarlottaVance said:He's enjoying every minute.....
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1107935118394642432
Though quite what he doing out & about at that time of the morning.....0 -
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Probably hoping for something a bit more like this, through crowds of his cheering remain fansCarlottaVance said:He's enjoying every minute.....
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1107935118394642432
Though quite what he doing out & about at that time of the morning.....
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Leaverloons are more likely to get violent than Remainaics. I can vouch for that from time spent at College Green. The Remainers down there are essentially eccentrics, but one picks up more than a whiff of something deeply unpleasant if one gets too close to some of the Leavers. And I don't mean just armpit.Theuniondivvie said:There seems to be a weird contradiction wherein Leavers seem reluctant to take part in democratic protests or public displays of support in any great numbers, while we're told if their desires are thwarted that the rivers of Leaverstan will be foaming with much blood. Otoh Remainers turn out in their 100s of 1000s, yet the chances of them resorting to violent acts of terrorism are precisely zero whatever the outcome.
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No doubt a factor - as in the difficulty facing farmers hiring labour on the minimum wage.Stereotomy said:
Much cheaper since sterling plummetedCarlottaVance said:“Global laughing stock with trashed reputation”.....
The percentage of overseas students making Britain their first choice for business school has increased since the EU referendum, suggesting that fears about Brexit damaging the sector were overblown...
Some 54 per cent of test takers surveyed by GMAC last December said Brexit had made no impact on the attractiveness of Britain as a place to study, up from 46 per cent in December 2016. Moreover, 71 per cent of UK business schools included in the study reported a year-on-year increase in applications.
The British education system also continues to be well respected among overseas applicants, and Britain has maintained its reputation among MBA students as a great place to launch an international career.
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Bad news for Labour:
https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1107942405343449088
EDIT: It's a complicated picture:
https://tinyurl.com/y63zd73v0
