The Electoral Reform Society says that it's no wonder people are divorced from Parliament; most votes cast in general elections made no difference to who was elected.
That's true in any electoral system.
Might not get ones first choice under STV but it gets a lot closer.
Just as you might not get your first choice in FPTP. Not sure why people voting for a losing candidate are entitled to a second shot.
It's a reasonable response when someone tells you to read some history.
You can be highly educated and shockingly negligent to the point of recklessness about the facts. Daniel Hannan regularly falls into that category.
I wouldn't disagree.
What puzzles me is this. It's not at all easy to get a good degree from Oxbridge or a Russell Group University. You have to be bright. But, quite frequently, people who have obtained such degrees act incompetently in later life.
I had an utterly inglorious academic career at Oxford - also reading history a couple of years below Hannan. Most of my failure was down to pure indolence but a lot of it was down to huge amounts of self-doubt. Time after time I found myself seeing eight sides of the problem and wondering which the tutor would prefer. Those who did best had not an iota of doubt about anything at all. Particularly the Union Hack types who dominate the Conservative Party. It's a continuation of getting their slate elected to them.
I wonder, seriously, what our History teacher and former academic Ydoethur, would say about that. Friend of mine was a Theology don and he told me that arguing ones case was, effectively, the chief skill learnt by his students.
One of the big problems I see is that we are generating people who are capable of talking confidently without hesitation or deviation. As undergraduates (and at their peak ability to memorise content) they underpin the opinion they express with evidence.
As they progress, and especially if the evidence does not support their case, the ability to speak with confidence and authority persists, but the connection of opinion to evidence is allowed to drop, and this is where we end up.
Good comment. And now I have to go out for the afternoon.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
Yes, was mentioned last night. Surprised it drew so little comment. If he stood down and anointed Cooper as successor, he might retire with lifelong dream of destroying the Tories achieved.
Mr. Eagles, guilty by associated demography but not ideology is a rather weird way to view such things.
"Recant your whiteness, sinner!"
We aren't far from being told that white guilt is racist
Whole thing is a lot of bollox, stick the guilt where the sunshines, anybody can make up any rubbish about the past , get over it. It was done by other people long ago nobody in present has any guilt for what people did in the past , it is pathetic.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
Yes, was mentioned last night. Surprised it drew so little comment. If he stood down and anointed Cooper as successor, he might retire with lifelong dream of destroying the Tories achieved.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
You missed out the best bit, which sounds like something out of Yes Minister:
official Labour sources denied Corbyn was pondering an exit - "Somebody has been eating too much cheese, or something harder,” one said, adding, “His diary is packed full. He does a lot more late nights than early mornings: meetings, engagements, receptions. He’ll be at the Kebab Awards tonight.”
To be fair, Asda are a decent business to work with. Sure, you know that they will run low on cash towards year end and get their begging bowl out, but otherwise they're good. Unlike JS.
As for lower prices, I refer you back to "we're in the money"
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
Yes, was mentioned last night. Surprised it drew so little comment. If he stood down and anointed Cooper as successor, he might retire with lifelong dream of destroying the Tories achieved.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
Yes, was mentioned last night. Surprised it drew so little comment. If he stood down and anointed Cooper as successor, he might retire with lifelong dream of destroying the Tories achieved.
God no, Cooper would be a car-crash as leader.
A general election between her and Boris would be Trump v Clinton on steroids.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
Jezza could be literally weeks away from becoming Prime Minister and enacting the most radical socialist manifesto this country has ever seen and we're meant to believe he wants to give it all up?
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
You missed out the best bit, which sounds like something out of Yes Minister:
official Labour sources denied Corbyn was pondering an exit - "Somebody has been eating too much cheese, or something harder,” one said, adding, “His diary is packed full. He does a lot more late nights than early mornings: meetings, engagements, receptions. He’ll be at the Kebab Awards tonight.”
"A "double first" at Oxford usually informally refers to first-class honours in both components of an undergraduate degree, i.e. Moderations/Prelims and the Final Honour School, or in both the bachelor's and master's components of an integrated master's degree." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification
Google is your friend.
So he got a first in the first bit of his undergraduate degree and a first in the second bit of his undergraduate degree. So he got a first overall. But for some godforsaken reason Oxford calls this a "Double First". Ok, good to know.
Incidentally, what's an "integrated batchelors and masters" degree? Is it just a four-year Batchelor's. Masters degrees aren't divided into 1/2.1/2.2/3etc, they're divided into "Distinction/Pass/Fail" or similar.
(Heard this secondhand, so sorry if it's BS, but...)
Is that the thing where Oxford will sell you a Masters for an extra £50 when you complete your degree... but apparently no-one goes for it unless they want to hawk themselves abroad because everyone* in the UK knows about it and it's not seen as a classy look.
(*Spoiler alert: I didn't)
I don't know. The anecdote I believe comes from an episode of Yes Minister. But it is possible to get a Master's degree from Oxford in the conventional manner, after one year's study comprising a compulsory nine-month taught course and an optional three-months thesis. If you pass the nine-month element then drop out or fail the thesis you get a Diploma. If you pass the nine-month element and the thesis you get the Master's degree.
As an aside, I've just applied to do a Masters' Degree, in Military History, with Buckingham University. It will be the first time in thirty years that I've done an academic course.
Sounds very interesting , good luck I am sure you will enjoy.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
Jezza could be literally weeks away from becoming Prime Minister and enacting the most radical socialist manifesto this country has ever seen and we're meant to believe he wants to give it all up?
To be fair, Asda are a decent business to work with. Sure, you know that they will run low on cash towards year end and get their begging bowl out, but otherwise they're good. Unlike JS.
As for lower prices, I refer you back to "we're in the money"
it doesnt seem to have struck JS and ASDA that screaming about price increases post Brexit while simultaneously claiming there will be price decreases in the post Brexit world may be somewhat inconsistent.
Likewise if both supermarkets claim they will be stretched to maintain their supply chains next month why on earth would we want to add the turmoil of a supply chain reorganisation in to the mix.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
Jezza could be literally weeks away from becoming Prime Minister and enacting the most radical socialist manifesto this country has ever seen and we're meant to believe he wants to give it all up?
Incidentally, what's an "integrated batchelors and masters" degree? Is it just a four-year Batchelor's. Masters degrees aren't divided into 1/2.1/2.2/3etc, they're divided into "Distinction/Pass/Fail" or similar.
(Heard this secondhand, so sorry if it's BS, but...)
Is that the thing where Oxford will sell you a Masters for an extra £50 when you complete your degree... but apparently no-one goes for it unless they want to hawk themselves abroad because everyone* in the UK knows about it and it's not seen as a classy look.
(*Spoiler alert: I didn't)
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As an aside, I've just applied to do a Masters' Degree, in Military History, with Buckingham University. It will be the first time in thirty years that I've done an academic course.
I did something similar. It was very interesting explaining and discussing ideas, and having the discipline of writing to someone else's satisfaction, as opposed to commercially, although I wrote for the professional press.
So he got a first in the first bit of his undergraduate degree and a first in the second bit of his undergraduate degree. So he got a first overall. But for some godforsaken reason Oxford calls this a "Double First". Ok, good to know.
Incidentally, what's an "integrated batchelors and masters" degree? Is it just a four-year Batchelor's. Masters degrees aren't divided into 1/2.1/2.2/3etc, they're divided into "Distinction/Pass/Fail" or similar.
(*Spoiler alert: I didn't)
As an aside, I've just applied to do a Masters' Degree, in Military History, with Buckingham University. It will be the first time in thirty years that I've done an academic course.
Good grief, I am so jealous! Well done you!
I'm really looking forward to it. They've got some first class lecturers, such as Max Hastings, Antony Beevor, and Richard Evans.
There's much more going on here than verbal diarrhea. He's more than happy for everyone to think he's a fruitbat shoksg dtip drip drip goes the narrative
Corbyn won't resign. There dill be a civil war for the labour party after him and he knows may will engineer an election whilst labour trips over its own blood and body parts
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
To be fair, Asda are a decent business to work with. Sure, you know that they will run low on cash towards year end and get their begging bowl out, but otherwise they're good. Unlike JS.
As for lower prices, I refer you back to "we're in the money"
it doesnt seem to have struck JS and ASDA that screaming about price increases post Brexit while simultaneously claiming there will be price decreases in the post Brexit world may be somewhat inconsistent.
Likewise if both supermarkets claim they will be stretched to maintain their supply chains next month why on earth would we want to add the turmoil of a supply chain reorganisation in to the mix.
But then Greg Clark is easily duped.
There will be substantial food price rises whether we Brexit or not. Several reasons: the entire industry has largely tied itself in knots trying to second guess events. Vast amounts of cash is tied up in stored stock, ingredients and packaging all stockpiled as a hedge against disruption. All that costs money. The massive change to ordering patterns has genuinely loaded costs onto producers who have had to work flat out to fulfill enhanced orders.
Even if Brexit is significantly delayed next week costs have been incurred (albeit not as big an increase as we'd see if we crash out). We've also seen cost loading and cash flow strains on businesses not resilient enough to cope (and yes, I count the likes of Asda and JS in this as they are not remotely profitable enough for their stock exchange overlords).
So price rises are inevitable. Brexit has cost the industry a lot and we haven't left yet. And for the few lucky sods not directly hit by costs? They'll go for price anyway as its a free hit if everyone else is doing so.
I like the example from that time of the puritan who named his five daughters after what he regarded as the feminine virtues: Chastity, Prudence, Grace, Mercy, and (his favourite) Silence.
Incidentally, what's an "integrated batchelors and masters" degree? Is it just a four-year Batchelor's. Masters degrees aren't divided into 1/2.1/2.2/3etc, they're divided into "Distinction/Pass/Fail" or similar.
(Heard this secondhand, so sorry if it's BS, but...)
(*Spoiler alert: I didn't)
.
As an aside, I've just applied to do a Masters' Degree, in Military History, with Buckingham University. It will be the first time in thirty years that I've done an academic course.
I did something similar. It was very interesting explaining and discussing ideas, and having the discipline of writing to someone else's satisfaction, as opposed to commercially, although I wrote for the professional press.
So he got a first in the first bit of his undergraduate degree and a first in the second bit of his undergraduate degree. So he got a first overall. But for some godforsaken reason Oxford calls this a "Double First". Ok, good to know.
Incidentally, what's an "integrated batchelors and masters" degree? Is it just a four-year Batchelor's. Masters degrees aren't divided into 1/2.1/2.2/3etc, they're divided into "Distinction/Pass/Fail" or similar.
(*Spoiler alert: I didn't)
As an aside, I've just applied to do a Masters' Degree, in Military History, with Buckingham University. It will be the first time in thirty years that I've done an academic course.
Good grief, I am so jealous! Well done you!
I'm really looking forward to it. They've got some first class lecturers, such as Max Hastings, Antony Beevor, and Richard Evans.
Do you have a specialism? There's a military history group at my club that's often on the lookout for speakers.
"A "double first" at Oxford usually informally refers to first-class honours in both components of an undergraduate degree, i.e. Moderations/Prelims and the Final Honour School, or in both the bachelor's and master's components of an integrated master's degree." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification
Google is your friend.
So he got a first in the first bit of his undergraduate degree and a first in the second bit of his undergraduate degree. So he got a first overall. But for some godforsaken reason Oxford calls this a "Double First". Ok, good to know.
Incidentally, what's an "integrated batchelors and masters" degree? Is it just a four-year Batchelor's. Masters degrees aren't divided into 1/2.1/2.2/3etc, they're divided into "Distinction/Pass/Fail" or similar.
(Heard this secondhand, so sorry if it's BS, but...)
Is that the thing where Oxford will sell you a Masters for an extra £50 when you complete your degree... but apparently no-one goes for it unless they want to hawk themselves abroad because everyone* in the UK knows about it and it's not seen as a classy look.
(*Spoiler alert: I didn't)
I don't know. The anecdote I believe comes from an episode of Yes Minister. But it is possible to get a Master's degree from Oxford in the conventional manner, after one year's study comprising a compulsory nine-month taught course and an optional three-months thesis. If you pass the nine-month element then drop out or fail the thesis you get a Diploma. If you pass the nine-month element and the thesis you get the Master's degree.
As an aside, I've just applied to do a Masters' Degree, in Military History, with Buckingham University. It will be the first time in thirty years that I've done an academic course.
Good for you.
I’ve seen that advertised and also fantasised about applying.
Senior members of the shadow cabinet have told The Londoner that they understand Jeremy Corbyn would like to step down as leader of the Labour Party.
The sources say that a number of those around the leader are also of the view that Corbyn, who is 70 in May, would like to pass on the reins of his surprisingly successful socialist project.
One member of the shadow cabinet told us: “He’s tired and fed up.” Another: “Corbyn is ready to step down. He wants to step down.”
You missed out the best bit, which sounds like something out of Yes Minister:
official Labour sources denied Corbyn was pondering an exit - "Somebody has been eating too much cheese, or something harder,” one said, adding, “His diary is packed full. He does a lot more late nights than early mornings: meetings, engagements, receptions. He’ll be at the Kebab Awards tonight.”
I like the example from that time of the puritan who named his five daughters after what he regarded as the feminine virtues: Chastity, Prudence, Grace, Mercy, and (his favourite) Silence.
An unfortunate choice of name for the Lamb family, though....
A 12 month extension with an escape clause triggered by passing the Withdrawal Agreement. That to me seems like the way to go.
There's automatically an escape clause if we agree the WIthdrawal Agreement. In Article 50, the deadline is "when an Agreement is made"; the time limit is what happens in the absence of an Agreement.
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http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/08/14/the-1001-bet-on-the-next-labour-leader-that-quite-a-few-of-us-have-taken-this-last-week/
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1108004465121075200
official Labour sources denied Corbyn was pondering an exit - "Somebody has been eating too much cheese, or something harder,” one said, adding, “His diary is packed full. He does a lot more late nights than early mornings: meetings, engagements, receptions. He’ll be at the Kebab Awards tonight.”
As for lower prices, I refer you back to "we're in the money"
#Sunny uplands !
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1107986866215813125
A general election between her and Boris would be Trump v Clinton on steroids.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/house/house-magazine/102637/margaret-beckett-“people-put-you
Jezza could be literally weeks away from becoming Prime Minister and enacting the most radical socialist manifesto this country has ever seen and we're meant to believe he wants to give it all up?
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/other/what-is-kebab-awards-westminster-mps-parliament-marie-le-conte
Perhaps something to do with the famous Kinnock expostulation ?
Likewise if both supermarkets claim they will be stretched to maintain their supply chains next month why on earth would we want to add the turmoil of a supply chain reorganisation in to the mix.
But then Greg Clark is easily duped.
If there's a chorus of people calling for unilateral Revoke, increasingly a People's Vote will look like the sensible, compromise option.
The Overton Window theory is also why TIG are probably doomed, but sadly OGH didn't want my impeccably sourced and reasoned header submission on that.
I'm really looking forward to it. They've got some first class lecturers, such as Max Hastings, Antony Beevor, and Richard Evans.
Does the course cover the Tory Civil Wars 2016-2019?
https://twitter.com/Oldfirmfacts1/status/1107996328938872833
People used to give their children names like Praise-God, or Zeal-in-the Land, or Peculiar.
https://twitter.com/huffpostukpol/status/1108013046721626113?s=21
Unless-Jesus-Christ-Had-Died-For-Thee-Thou-Hadst-Been-Damned Barebone.
This is all getting completely out of hand.
NEW THREAD
Even if Brexit is significantly delayed next week costs have been incurred (albeit not as big an increase as we'd see if we crash out). We've also seen cost loading and cash flow strains on businesses not resilient enough to cope (and yes, I count the likes of Asda and JS in this as they are not remotely profitable enough for their stock exchange overlords).
So price rises are inevitable. Brexit has cost the industry a lot and we haven't left yet. And for the few lucky sods not directly hit by costs? They'll go for price anyway as its a free hit if everyone else is doing so.
I’ve seen that advertised and also fantasised about applying.
Maybe one day.