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Sir Godfrey Bankershire and Margaret Jobsworthy-Dolebuster have both resigned.0
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Wake up Vince! Time to lead the nation...El_Capitano said:0 -
Soon to be Baroness May should have known only the feckless and vain spend months perfecting their signaturesMarqueeMark said:
Classy handwriting.....williamglenn said:0 -
Its possible of course Suella Braverman might unresign again once the whips have a word - as was the case post Chequers.Fenman said:
Never heard of them. You're starting to make names up, aren't you?brendan16 said:
And Anne Marie Trevelyan - PPS at Education. Surely that is the final blow for May?!williamglenn said:Suella Braverman resigns.
https://twitter.com/annietrev
https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/09/junior-brexit-minister-suella-braveman-not-quit-david-davis-despite-reports-7694229/0 -
This is Corbyns fault LOL Your credibility is as shot as MaysSouthamObserver said:
Hunt will go, too. This is all about the forthcoming leadership election and the only way you get to stand is by resigning. It's all so transparent. Never has the total lack of a credible opposition been so damaging to the national interest.bigjohnowls said:
8am 8am 10amkle4 said:I genuinely don't get why these people didn't resign last night. If they couldn't support it no need to take stock of media or party reaction or likelihood of passing and it's not like it is one last favour to May to give her one night of fake unity. Why the delay?
11 am Khan??
Do you write the Sun Says?0 -
The only thing I fear is a Corbyn govt.
I don't like the EU but I'd rather Remain than have Corbyn.0 -
rottenborough said:
Blair and Umma need to get a wiggle on and get En Marche up and running...Beverley_C said:
Who cares? They are not fit to govern.Jonathan said:The problem for the GE is what is in the Tory manifesto.
The problem is, neither is Corbyn...
So... Raab is gone and his Junior Minister is gone. I take it that means that no one at DExEU believes in the exit deal.
The deal is dead - lone live the .... errrr.... gaping void in the political continuum?????0 -
It May be the final blowbrendan16 said:
And Anne Marie Trevelyan - PPS at Education. Surely that is the final blow for May?!williamglenn said:Suella Braverman resigns.
https://twitter.com/annietrev
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Agreed. What the f*ck was the point of last night? Some sick joke to make May pretend she had even got it past the cabinet table,SouthamObserver said:
Hunt will go, too. This is all about the forthcoming leadership election and the only way you get to stand is by resigning. It's all so transparent.bigjohnowls said:
8am 8am 10amkle4 said:I genuinely don't get why these people didn't resign last night. If they couldn't support it no need to take stock of media or party reaction or likelihood of passing and it's not like it is one last favour to May to give her one night of fake unity. Why the delay?
11 am Khan??0 -
“Earlier this morning”williamglenn said:
Please Miss! Miss! Please!
I resigned before he did miss! He cheated! I was first Miss!
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If she loses Sir Bufton-Tufton, she's lost the Shires - and all hope.....Jonathan said:Sir Godfrey Bankershire and Margaret Jobsworthy-Dolebuster have both resigned.
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Really? I doubt that's what she was going for thereCarlottaVance said:
“Earlier this morning”williamglenn said:
Please Miss! Miss! Please!
I resigned before he did miss! He cheated! I was first Miss!0 -
Who the heck would they get to lead it? Hammond?!rottenborough said:
An idea that has been much discussed. Will it now actually come to pass?El_Capitano said:0 -
May in the house0
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https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1063016360173821952 another one bites the dust.0
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May speaking to laughter as if nothing's wrong. She's delusional.0
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If Mike Hunt from Essex goes, she's lost the Thatcher boys and the C2DEsMarqueeMark said:
If she loses Sir Bufton-Tufton, she's lost the Shires - and all hope.....Jonathan said:Sir Godfrey Bankershire and Margaret Jobsworthy-Dolebuster have both resigned.
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You voted for something that was impossible to deliver. You voted for unicorns. There is no imaginable situation under which we get all the benefits of EU membership without any of the obligations. It's that simple. The only issue is what you prioritise. And all the evidence is that for most Leavers restricting immigration while causing the minimum possible economic harm was the number one priority. That is what May focused on and that is how we got to where we are today.Philip_Thompson said:
Utter bullshit. If this is what we'd voted for it would be getting lapped up by Leavers. Its patently obvious this is some meally mouthed bullshit cooked up by those who didn't believe in Brexit.JosiasJessop said:
What bullshit. This is what you voted for. It doesn't matter what flights of fancy fluttered through your fevered, deranged imagination: it was obvious that the two leave options could not be reconciled.MarqueeMark said:
I'd accept that - if the current shit-show hadn't had Remainer ring-masters.JosiasJessop said:
You're a leaver. You argued for leave.MarqueeMark said:The deal that Theresa May and Olly Robbins have cooked up is what happens when you task vegans with making a meat pie.
You own this, and you own the consequences.
Olly Robbins has done nothing in my name. Or in my cause.
I blame Gove for where we are.
And you're doing exactly what leavers were doing before the referendum: it isn't our fault; it's the EU's fault.
There's always someone else for you to blame for your own fuckup.
May said 2 things that were true: no deal is better than a bad deal and in order to deliver Brexit you need to believe in Brexit. May and Robbins didn't believe in Brexit and have come up with a turd of a deal.
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Who will May replace McVile with? The qualifications include a vicious,callous sociopathy and a belief in the use of starvation and death as instruments of government social security policy.Will they be forced to stop and scrap Universal Credit by the UN?0
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Hammond looks even more miserable than usual.0
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Laughter at takes back control0
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This is cringeworthy. If I was a Labour whip I'd be encouraging nothing but laughter to every line.0
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" ... by those who didn't believe in Brexit. "Philip_Thompson said:
Utter bullshit. If this is what we'd voted for it would be getting lapped up by Leavers. Its patently obvious this is some meally mouthed bullshit cooked up by those who didn't believe in Brexit.JosiasJessop said:
What bullshit. This is what you voted for. It doesn't matter what flights of fancy fluttered through your fevered, deranged imagination: it was obvious that the two leave options could not be reconciled.MarqueeMark said:
I'd accept that - if the current shit-show hadn't had Remainer ring-masters.JosiasJessop said:
You're a leaver. You argued for leave.MarqueeMark said:The deal that Theresa May and Olly Robbins have cooked up is what happens when you task vegans with making a meat pie.
You own this, and you own the consequences.
Olly Robbins has done nothing in my name. Or in my cause.
I blame Gove for where we are.
And you're doing exactly what leavers were doing before the referendum: it isn't our fault; it's the EU's fault.
There's always someone else for you to blame for your own fuckup.
May said 2 things that were true: no deal is better than a bad deal and in order to deliver Brexit you need to believe in Brexit. May and Robbins didn't believe in Brexit and have come up with a turd of a deal.
Ah, yes Brexit as a faith. Brexit as a religion. Believe in Brexit, for those with the true faith will sit at the right hand of Farage.0 -
Anybody who could write a phrase like "with a profoundly heavy heart" is no loss.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1063016360173821952 another one bites the dust.
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May now making her (final?) speech to HoC.0
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Alright Anna, you smartarse, who leads that to do what? Remain? Oh how convenient.El_Capitano said:0 -
Laughter is cruel.0
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I think it's just timing for media coverage, maybe some coordination between them. Not their fault that people online jumped the gun thinking that the risk of resignation had passed. There's a long history of resignations happening in the days after the initial eventkle4 said:
Agreed. What the f*ck was the point of last night? Some sick joke to make May pretend she had even got it past the cabinet table,SouthamObserver said:
Hunt will go, too. This is all about the forthcoming leadership election and the only way you get to stand is by resigning. It's all so transparent.bigjohnowls said:
8am 8am 10amkle4 said:I genuinely don't get why these people didn't resign last night. If they couldn't support it no need to take stock of media or party reaction or likelihood of passing and it's not like it is one last favour to May to give her one night of fake unity. Why the delay?
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Spot on. This won't be forgotten.rottenborough said:0 -
A government of national unity would need to be led by someone who couldn't be a leader of the Tories or Labour, so Vince fits that bill but so do many others.Foxy said:
Wake up Vince! Time to lead the nation...El_Capitano said:0 -
Hunt (and any other would-be successor) might be best advised to visit John Major's dentist rather than resigning; to look statesmanlike while fervently hoping the PM has gone before tea-time.SouthamObserver said:
Hunt will go, too. This is all about the forthcoming leadership election and the only way you get to stand is by resigning. It's all so transparent. Never has the total lack of a credible opposition been so damaging to the national interest.bigjohnowls said:
8am 8am 10amkle4 said:I genuinely don't get why these people didn't resign last night. If they couldn't support it no need to take stock of media or party reaction or likelihood of passing and it's not like it is one last favour to May to give her one night of fake unity. Why the delay?
11 am Khan??0 -
When they laugh at you, you are finished...Philip_Thompson said:May speaking to laughter as if nothing's wrong. She's delusional.
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I see dead people.......0
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Bingo! This should have happened months ago, why bother now?tottenhamWC said:
Spot on. This won't be forgotten.rottenborough said:0 -
Get the DUP in Downing Street!logical_song said:
A government of national unity would need to be led by someone who couldn't be a leader of the Tories or Labour, so Vince fits that bill but so do many others.Foxy said:
Wake up Vince! Time to lead the nation...El_Capitano said:0 -
He almost fits the profile of someone who couldn't be leader of the Lib Dems, too...logical_song said:
A government of national unity would need to be led by someone who couldn't be a leader of the Tories or Labour, so Vince fits that bill but so do many others.Foxy said:
Wake up Vince! Time to lead the nation...El_Capitano said:0 -
The government is a zombie now, nothing it says matters.volcanopete said:Who will May replace McVile with? The qualifications include a vicious,callous sociopathy and a belief in the use of starvation and death as instruments of government social security policy.Will they be forced to stop and scrap Universal Credit by the UN?
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Mr. Observer, taking time to decide a position and plan for WTO, if it came to that, was within her gift. May instead winged it with short term tactics that have led to this result.0
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Crisis....What crisis?0
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Has she not worked out yet that "nothing has changed" doesn't work out for her?Philip_Thompson said:May speaking to laughter as if nothing's wrong. She's delusional.
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I actually think it is impossible to leave the EU in any way without massive problems.SouthamObserver said:
You voted for something that was impossible to deliver. You voted for unicorns. There is no imaginable situation under which we get all the benefits of EU membership without any of the obligations. It's that simple. The only issue is what you prioritise. And all the evidence is that for most Leavers restricting immigration while causing the minimum possible economic harm was the number one priority. That is what May focused on and that is how we got to where we are today.Philip_Thompson said:
Utter bullshit. If this is what we'd voted for it would be getting lapped up by Leavers. Its patently obvious this is some meally mouthed bullshit cooked up by those who didn't believe in Brexit.JosiasJessop said:
What bullshit. This is what you voted for. It doesn't matter what flights of fancy fluttered through your fevered, deranged imagination: it was obvious that the two leave options could not be reconciled.MarqueeMark said:
I'd accept that - if the current shit-show hadn't had Remainer ring-masters.JosiasJessop said:
You're a leaver. You argued for leave.MarqueeMark said:The deal that Theresa May and Olly Robbins have cooked up is what happens when you task vegans with making a meat pie.
You own this, and you own the consequences.
Olly Robbins has done nothing in my name. Or in my cause.
I blame Gove for where we are.
And you're doing exactly what leavers were doing before the referendum: it isn't our fault; it's the EU's fault.
There's always someone else for you to blame for your own fuckup.
May said 2 things that were true: no deal is better than a bad deal and in order to deliver Brexit you need to believe in Brexit. May and Robbins didn't believe in Brexit and have come up with a turd of a deal.
It shows how we'd lost our sovereignty a long time ago, but a no-deal Brexit now might be the only way to get out without bloodshed.0 -
- A GE can't support her position; it would deliver govt to Lab. Not an option for her.dixiedean said:
She needs to do something radical.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She is not going to make a suicidal offer to labour, though how long she stays in office is another questiongrabcocque said:
It's looking like she's going to be out of office today anyway. She's got nothing left to lose. ROLL THOSE DICE.Big_G_NorthWales said:
She would be out of office the day she suggested itgrabcocque said:
I thought of that, but I don't think the SNP would take Indyref2 now, they want to do it in a couple of years when the Brexit backlash is at its nastiest in Scotland.Jonathan said:
A referendum or an election.grabcocque said:
A full, open and honest offer to Nick Clegg.Jonathan said:The fundamental fact in all this is that May does not have the votes in the HoC. She needs to make a bold offer to someone.
Practically, there are only two parties she can make an offer to: Labour and the SNP. What could she possibly offer them?
The SNP an IndyRef to opt-out of the deal.
Labour a 1 Mar General Election.
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A second referendum. Deal, No Deal or No Brexit.
But yes: if May made an agreement to form a grand coalition with Corbyn that lasts until the day after the deal is voted through Parliament followed by an immediate dissolution and early Jan election?
Corbyn would go for that.
It is Hail Mary time.
GE 2nd referendum, national govt, article 50 withdrawal or resignation.
Nothing has changed is not an option.
- A national government isn't possible because there aren't the MPs to support it.
- A 2nd referendum? On what? And is it worth weeks of parliamentary fighting to deliver a vote that results in a murky mandate?
- A50 withdrawal is legally dubious: the Notification Act only gave her the right to notify the EU of the UK's intention to leave; not its intention to remain. On top of which is whether it's legally possible under EU law. And either way, she'd be No Confidenced. Not an option.
- Resignation is certainly a possibility but doesn't get anywhere closer to a solution.
I think she has to prepare for the deal being voted down and to lay out *now* what that means - which is going back to Brussels to get a revision. In reality, the only revisions possible - to my mind - are to trade an even closer transitional relationship, with NI and GB on the same basis, for a proper (unilateral or time-limited) break clause. The Tory Ultras won't like it but it has to be explored before No Deal becomes inevitable.0 -
TMay is ok until Lord Falconer quits.0
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The key for me is does OGH think May is done? He's generally optimistic on her chances0
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Yes. It's utterly absurd that they didn't plan for this from day 1, even before Article 50 was triggered.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, taking time to decide a position and plan for WTO, if it came to that, was within her gift. May instead winged it with short term tactics that have led to this result.
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Believe in Britain!JosiasJessop said:
" ... by those who didn't believe in Brexit. "Philip_Thompson said:
Utter bullshit. If this is what we'd voted for it would be getting lapped up by Leavers. Its patently obvious this is some meally mouthed bullshit cooked up by those who didn't believe in Brexit.JosiasJessop said:
What bullshit. This is what you voted for. It doesn't matter what flights of fancy fluttered through your fevered, deranged imagination: it was obvious that the two leave options could not be reconciled.MarqueeMark said:
I'd accept that - if the current shit-show hadn't had Remainer ring-masters.JosiasJessop said:
You're a leaver. You argued for leave.MarqueeMark said:The deal that Theresa May and Olly Robbins have cooked up is what happens when you task vegans with making a meat pie.
You own this, and you own the consequences.
Olly Robbins has done nothing in my name. Or in my cause.
I blame Gove for where we are.
And you're doing exactly what leavers were doing before the referendum: it isn't our fault; it's the EU's fault.
There's always someone else for you to blame for your own fuckup.
May said 2 things that were true: no deal is better than a bad deal and in order to deliver Brexit you need to believe in Brexit. May and Robbins didn't believe in Brexit and have come up with a turd of a deal.
Ah, yes Brexit as a faith. Brexit as a religion. Believe in Brexit, for those with the true faith will sit at the right hand of Farage.
Be LEAVE!
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I don't think the public will react well to that. They should be outraged not laughing. As SO said - Brexiteers are protected from the decisions they make but so are parliament's remainers.Beverley_C said:
When they laugh at you, you are finished...Philip_Thompson said:May speaking to laughter as if nothing's wrong. She's delusional.
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But OGH was optimistic on the LibDems chances in 2015.....kle4 said:The key for me is does OGH think May is done? He's generally optimistic on her chances
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Wot no Gove.0
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Belief in a policy, belief it was the right thing to do. Religions aren't the only things that require belief.JosiasJessop said:
" ... by those who didn't believe in Brexit. "Philip_Thompson said:
Utter bullshit. If this is what we'd voted for it would be getting lapped up by Leavers. Its patently obvious this is some meally mouthed bullshit cooked up by those who didn't believe in Brexit.JosiasJessop said:
What bullshit. This is what you voted for. It doesn't matter what flights of fancy fluttered through your fevered, deranged imagination: it was obvious that the two leave options could not be reconciled.MarqueeMark said:
I'd accept that - if the current shit-show hadn't had Remainer ring-masters.JosiasJessop said:
You're a leaver. You argued for leave.MarqueeMark said:The deal that Theresa May and Olly Robbins have cooked up is what happens when you task vegans with making a meat pie.
You own this, and you own the consequences.
Olly Robbins has done nothing in my name. Or in my cause.
I blame Gove for where we are.
And you're doing exactly what leavers were doing before the referendum: it isn't our fault; it's the EU's fault.
There's always someone else for you to blame for your own fuckup.
May said 2 things that were true: no deal is better than a bad deal and in order to deliver Brexit you need to believe in Brexit. May and Robbins didn't believe in Brexit and have come up with a turd of a deal.
Ah, yes Brexit as a faith. Brexit as a religion. Believe in Brexit, for those with the true faith will sit at the right hand of Farage.
I believe lower taxes improve economic growth, that's not a religion its an educated thought.0 -
Will the last person to leave Her Majesty's Government please turn out the lights... 0
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May of the Dead?kle4 said:
The government is a zombie now, nothing it says matters.volcanopete said:Who will May replace McVile with? The qualifications include a vicious,callous sociopathy and a belief in the use of starvation and death as instruments of government social security policy.Will they be forced to stop and scrap Universal Credit by the UN?
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She has not been a good PM. That doesn't take away people's choice about this deal or not and that means if we remain or GE and Corbyn gets in that is still on them. It will be more defendable the worse May did but they are still choosing to risk remain no deal and Corbyn and May doing a bad job doesn't make that less their choice.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, taking time to decide a position and plan for WTO, if it came to that, was within her gift. May instead winged it with short term tactics that have led to this result.
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I was waiting for that.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Believe in Britain!JosiasJessop said:
" ... by those who didn't believe in Brexit. "Philip_Thompson said:
Utter bullshit. If this is what we'd voted for it would be getting lapped up by Leavers. Its patently obvious this is some meally mouthed bullshit cooked up by those who didn't believe in Brexit.JosiasJessop said:
What bullshit. This is what you voted for. It doesn't matter what flights of fancy fluttered through your fevered, deranged imagination: it was obvious that the two leave options could not be reconciled.MarqueeMark said:
I'd accept that - if the current shit-show hadn't had Remainer ring-masters.JosiasJessop said:
You're a leaver. You argued for leave.MarqueeMark said:The deal that Theresa May and Olly Robbins have cooked up is what happens when you task vegans with making a meat pie.
You own this, and you own the consequences.
Olly Robbins has done nothing in my name. Or in my cause.
I blame Gove for where we are.
And you're doing exactly what leavers were doing before the referendum: it isn't our fault; it's the EU's fault.
There's always someone else for you to blame for your own fuckup.
May said 2 things that were true: no deal is better than a bad deal and in order to deliver Brexit you need to believe in Brexit. May and Robbins didn't believe in Brexit and have come up with a turd of a deal.
Ah, yes Brexit as a faith. Brexit as a religion. Believe in Brexit, for those with the true faith will sit at the right hand of Farage.
Be LEAVE!
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I didn't mean key ad that signals it's done, I meant key as when It will be admitted it's done.MarqueeMark said:
But OGH was optimistic on the LibDems chances in 2015.....kle4 said:The key for me is does OGH think May is done? He's generally optimistic on her chances
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And indeed Brexit. It seems inevitable that we will remain nowGIN1138 said:Will the last person to leave Her Majesty's Government please turn out the lights...
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Kind of wish I hadn't bothered reading around 400 pages of the agreement now.0
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Quite.Xenon said:
Yes. It's utterly absurd that they didn't plan for this from day 1, even before Article 50 was triggered.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, taking time to decide a position and plan for WTO, if it came to that, was within her gift. May instead winged it with short term tactics that have led to this result.
The only "planning" was late on - to issue Plagues of Frogs and Boils warnings about Hard Brexit, sector by sector, and very late on in the process. This was aimed purely at ensuring No Deal was too scary to ever contemplate.0 -
There is nothing in law requiring the PM to be a Member of Parliament - indeed all of them spend election campaigns not as an MP. So why just look to the tired members of the green benches.
Possible leaders of the National Government
Nigel Farrage
Tony Blair
Alan Sugar
Howling Laud Hope
Jane Horrocks (it worked on The Amazing Mrs Pritchard0 -
Little would make me happier but a no deal exit is far more likely.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And indeed Brexit. It seems inevitable that we will remain nowGIN1138 said:Will the last person to leave Her Majesty's Government please turn out the lights...
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So May has basically just said that because of the promises of no hard border in Northern Ireland, No Deal was never an option?
So much for 'no deal is better than a bad deal' then.0 -
GBP plummeting.
Brexit is proving a calamity as I said on day one. Nothing has changed.
Second referendum pointless as we will probably get the same result. The gormless brainless morons who voted Leave first time round will do it again.
We are in a bind!0 -
So basically Deal, or No Deal.0
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Also applies to May, Corbyn and their respective parties.Mortimer said:
He almost fits the profile of someone who couldn't be leader of the Lib Dems, too...logical_song said:
A government of national unity would need to be led by someone who couldn't be a leader of the Tories or Labour, so Vince fits that bill but so do many others.Foxy said:
Wake up Vince! Time to lead the nation...El_Capitano said:0 -
WTO wouldn’t honour the referendum result.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, taking time to decide a position and plan for WTO, if it came to that, was within her gift. May instead winged it with short term tactics that have led to this result.
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Looks like a broken woman to me0
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Not inevitable but the most likely.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And indeed Brexit. It seems inevitable that we will remain nowGIN1138 said:Will the last person to leave Her Majesty's Government please turn out the lights...
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Won't he be practising for his appearance on Strictly in Blackpool?Foxy said:
Wake up Vince! Time to lead the nation...El_Capitano said:0 -
Brian Cox.RochdalePioneers said:There is nothing in law requiring the PM to be a Member of Parliament - indeed all of them spend election campaigns not as an MP. So why just look to the tired members of the green benches.
Possible leaders of the National Government
Nigel Farrage
Tony Blair
Alan Sugar
Howling Laud Hope
Jane Horrocks (it worked on The Amazing Mrs Pritchard0 -
This is more serious - from BBC cricket
Phil Burdekin: Since 9am there have been more cabinet resignations then Sri Lankan wickets...0 -
Lord Falconer quits.-1
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Looks like Stewart promoted0
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@Kle4 I think we (I include you as a moderate) have to face reality, the vision of a sensible brexit died today I think. It's either remain or no deal. It's a shame because May's deal looked good to me.kle4 said:
Alright Anna, you smartarse, who leads that to do what? Remain? Oh how convenient.El_Capitano said:0 -
And it also created the situation where the EU could demand anything knowing we'd have to take it. Which then means it couldn't get through parliament.MarqueeMark said:
Quite.Xenon said:
Yes. It's utterly absurd that they didn't plan for this from day 1, even before Article 50 was triggered.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, taking time to decide a position and plan for WTO, if it came to that, was within her gift. May instead winged it with short term tactics that have led to this result.
The only "planning" was late on - to issue Plagues of Frogs and Boils warnings about Hard Brexit, sector by sector, and very late on in the process. This was aimed purely at ensuring No Deal was too scary to ever contemplate.
What a complete bunch of idiots.0 -
Remain is better than May's deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And indeed Brexit. It seems inevitable that we will remain nowGIN1138 said:Will the last person to leave Her Majesty's Government please turn out the lights...
But make no mistake the Conservatives will rue the day they went against the referendum result.0 -
I know it has been a hindrance at times.
But, does she have any choice but tin earedness at this point.0 -
Come on May, give Kevin Foster a job 0
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Brian Blessed.rottenborough said:
Brian Cox.RochdalePioneers said:There is nothing in law requiring the PM to be a Member of Parliament - indeed all of them spend election campaigns not as an MP. So why just look to the tired members of the green benches.
Possible leaders of the National Government
Nigel Farrage
Tony Blair
Alan Sugar
Howling Laud Hope
Jane Horrocks (it worked on The Amazing Mrs Pritchard0 -
I wonder what they are in panic about? The bosses have resigned, put up your feet and stick the kettle on. No work to do today, but govt is busy collapsing.AlastairMeeks said:0 -
Where is Gove Khan Hunt?0
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Brexit is an educated thought ????Philip_Thompson said:
Belief in a policy, belief it was the right thing to do. Religions aren't the only things that require belief.JosiasJessop said:
" ... by those who didn't believe in Brexit. "Philip_Thompson said:
Utter bullshit. If this is what we'd voted for it would be getting lapped up by Leavers. Its patently obvious this is some meally mouthed bullshit cooked up by those who didn't believe in Brexit.JosiasJessop said:
What bullshit. This is what you voted for. It doesn't matter what flights of fancy fluttered through your fevered, deranged imagination: it was obvious that the two leave options could not be reconciled.MarqueeMark said:
I'd accept that - if the current shit-show hadn't had Remainer ring-masters.JosiasJessop said:
You're a leaver. You argued for leave.MarqueeMark said:The deal that Theresa May and Olly Robbins have cooked up is what happens when you task vegans with making a meat pie.
You own this, and you own the consequences.
Olly Robbins has done nothing in my name. Or in my cause.
I blame Gove for where we are.
And you're doing exactly what leavers were doing before the referendum: it isn't our fault; it's the EU's fault.
There's always someone else for you to blame for your own fuckup.
May said 2 things that were true: no deal is better than a bad deal and in order to deliver Brexit you need to believe in Brexit. May and Robbins didn't believe in Brexit and have come up with a turd of a deal.
Ah, yes Brexit as a faith. Brexit as a religion. Believe in Brexit, for those with the true faith will sit at the right hand of Farage.
I believe lower taxes improve economic growth, that's not a religion its an educated thought.
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You should be on the stage. Brexit is a fucking disaster, and it was alwayts going to be a fucking disaster due to leave's stance during the referendum. There's nothing 'educated' about it, however many educated people fell pray to the religion.0 -
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The Tories are stuffed whatever they do. They should have thought twice before heading us towards this whole fiasco in the first place.GIN1138 said:
Remain is better than May's deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And indeed Brexit. It seems inevitable that we will remain nowGIN1138 said:Will the last person to leave Her Majesty's Government please turn out the lights...
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Will as many 'gormless morons' vote for No Deal' over 'Remain'?murali_s said:GBP plummeting.
Brexit is proving a calamity as I said on day one. Nothing has changed.
Second referendum pointless as we will probably get the same result. The gormless brainless morons who voted Leave first time round will do it again.
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Horrocks goverrrrrnment for me.RochdalePioneers said:There is nothing in law requiring the PM to be a Member of Parliament - indeed all of them spend election campaigns not as an MP. So why just look to the tired members of the green benches.
Possible leaders of the National Government
Nigel Farrage
Tony Blair
Alan Sugar
Howling Laud Hope
Jane Horrocks (it worked on The Amazing Mrs Pritchard0 -
No. Her party haven't yet called a vote of no confidence in her so she is doing her job even though she surely knows she cannot pass anything.Philip_Thompson said:May speaking to laughter as if nothing's wrong. She's delusional.
Until such time as they ask for her to go she will do the job she was appointed to.
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Are you personalising this to me by using 'you'GIN1138 said:
Remain is better than May's deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And indeed Brexit. It seems inevitable that we will remain nowGIN1138 said:Will the last person to leave Her Majesty's Government please turn out the lights...
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No. The disaster was signing up to a project that the British people didn't want to be part of and that is seemingly impossible to get out of.JosiasJessop said:
Brexit is an educated thought ????Philip_Thompson said:
Belief in a policy, belief it was the right thing to do. Religions aren't the only things that require belief.JosiasJessop said:
" ... by those who didn't believe in Brexit. "Philip_Thompson said:
Utter bullshit. If this is what we'd voted for it would be getting lapped up by Leavers. Its patently obvious this is some meally mouthed bullshit cooked up by those who didn't believe in Brexit.JosiasJessop said:
What bullshit. This is what you voted for. It doesn't matter what flights of fancy fluttered through your fevered, deranged imagination: it was obvious that the two leave options could not be reconciled.MarqueeMark said:
I'd accept that - if the current shit-show hadn't had Remainer ring-masters.JosiasJessop said:
You're a leaver. You argued for leave.MarqueeMark said:The deal that Theresa May and Olly Robbins have cooked up is what happens when you task vegans with making a meat pie.
You own this, and you own the consequences.
Olly Robbins has done nothing in my name. Or in my cause.
I blame Gove for where we are.
And you're doing exactly what leavers were doing before the referendum: it isn't our fault; it's the EU's fault.
There's always someone else for you to blame for your own fuckup.
May said 2 things that were true: no deal is better than a bad deal and in order to deliver Brexit you need to believe in Brexit. May and Robbins didn't believe in Brexit and have come up with a turd of a deal.
Ah, yes Brexit as a faith. Brexit as a religion. Believe in Brexit, for those with the true faith will sit at the right hand of Farage.
I believe lower taxes improve economic growth, that's not a religion its an educated thought.
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You should be on the stage. Brexit is a fucking disaster, and it was alwayts going to be a fucking disaster due to leave's stance during the referendum. There's nothing 'educated' about it, however many educated people fell pray to the religion.0 -
Eddie Re(d)mayneRochdalePioneers said:There is nothing in law requiring the PM to be a Member of Parliament - indeed all of them spend election campaigns not as an MP. So why just look to the tired members of the green benches.
Possible leaders of the National Government
Nigel Farrage
Tony Blair
Alan Sugar
Howling Laud Hope
Jane Horrocks (it worked on The Amazing Mrs Pritchard
David Baddiel
Annie Loof (Swedish centre party leader) and
Someone from Noddle to work out our credit rating.0 -
She always looks like that.El_Capitano said:Thornberry is loving this.
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That should be "they" sorry. I edited.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Are you personalising this to me by using 'you'GIN1138 said:
Remain is better than May's deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And indeed Brexit. It seems inevitable that we will remain nowGIN1138 said:Will the last person to leave Her Majesty's Government please turn out the lights...
But make no mistake the Conservatives will rue the day you went against the referendum result.-1 -
Corbyn picking at the scabs on the Tory benches. His speech is offering up to angry Tories all the things they hate that remain in the deal0
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she should be wary - unless labour are hypocrits they may need to negotiate something significantly different soon as they cannot vote for anything similar.El_Capitano said:Thornberry is loving this.
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