politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » With Priti Patel flying in from Kenya her situation and the go
politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » With Priti Patel flying in from Kenya her situation and the government’s gets more complicated
The Patel saga is getting murkier. Exclusive in Jewish Chronicle: No 10 knew about Patel meetings https://t.co/gDQhL2Q1RR
Comments
-
This is just bat shit mental0
-
It really is0
-
May, a safe pair of hands to see the Tory party through Brexit.
Er, no.
The longer she stays, the worse it gets.0 -
-
https://twitter.com/Gethsemane65/status/928232990471282688
What did we ever do before 24hr news channels...0 -
Fourth, err sixth...0
-
Are you talking to yourself - mind you I could understandTheScreamingEagles said:It really is
0 -
FPT: Mr. Rhubarb, that graph is very counter-intuitive.0
-
You don't need 'em: https://www.flightradar24.comFrancisUrquhart said:https://twitter.com/Gethsemane65/status/928232990471282688
What did we ever do before 24hr news channels...0 -
We read Private Eye once a fortnight and tried to remember what all the nicknames and coded references meant.FrancisUrquhart said:https://twitter.com/Gethsemane65/status/928232990471282688
What did we ever do before 24hr news channels...0 -
Hold on, I'm lost. Are we now saying that Burt has told an untruth to the Commons? Or that FCO is covering up something?
Maybe Boris will end up in the frame somehow.0 -
Looks at Betfair account againAlastairMeeks said:
Given how vehemently he is hated by Leavers, he has no chance in any time horizon currently under consideration.Alistair said:
Philip Hammond is the only sensible choice.AlastairMeeks said:
*looks at Betfair account*Jonathan said:
Looking at years served, Jeremy Hunt really should be an obvious contender for the position.david_herdson said:
Not really. To be a caretaker leader / PM you need to have sufficient experience and authority to be seen as credible in the job, while having no interest yourself in doing it for the long term. That inevitably means an elder statesman. On the Tory benches, there are very few former senior ministers, partly because of Labour's 13 years in office but also because of the speed with which Cameron, Osborne and Hague left the Commons. There's only really Clarke and he's unsuitable because of the European question.anothernick said:
Which would reveal that the Tory Party is incapable of agreeing on an MP to fill the role even as a caretaker. They cannot form a coherent government and a new leader will not change that.david_herdson said:
The caretaker is whoever's fit for it. In many ways, it's an advantage to have someone mind the shop who cannot be PM in the long term: it means they don't become an alternative power base.Morris_Dancer said:If May does go over this, imminently, would that mean she actually departs very swiftly, or hang on for the leadership election?
Normally it'd be the latter, but she clearly would be happier out of it. Yet, the seeming caretaker would be Green.
That said, I still wouldn't pick Green. Someone in the Lords would be better.
But it would be much better if May were to be the caretaker PM if she were forced out or resigned as Con leader.
FWIW, Cameron is 300/1 and Osborne is 200/1 (neither of whom are in the Lords but that could be changed easily enough); Oddschecker doesn't quote odds for Hague.
*nods fervently*
ONLY. SENSIBLE. CHOICE.0 -
Yes. Filter on callsign KQA100Ishmael_Z said:
You don't need 'em: https://www.flightradar24.comFrancisUrquhart said:https://twitter.com/Gethsemane65/status/928232990471282688
What did we ever do before 24hr news channels...
She is just crossing into Albanian airspace0 -
Hunt CoE
Davis FO
Rudd Home
Gove Brexit
Mogg Culture
Truss Health
Johnson Party Chair
0 -
Aid to IDF-gate or
Priti's gone Potty
0 -
I could live with thatJonathan said:Hunt CoE
Davis FO
Rudd Home
Gove Brexit
Mogg Culture
Truss Health
Johnson Party Chair0 -
Mrs C, makes me wonder if someone will make an app for political resignations and firings. Sackr, perhaps?0
-
-
What did we do before jet travel. At one time, a minister going on a tour of Africa would be away for six weeks at least.FrancisUrquhart said:https://twitter.com/Gethsemane65/status/928232990471282688
What did we ever do before 24hr news channels...0 -
If Boris prepared the brief for Burt, he probably just didn't bother to read the minutes...rottenborough said:Hold on, I'm lost. Are we now saying that Burt has told an untruth to the Commons? Or that FCO is covering up something?
Maybe Boris will end up in the frame somehow.0 -
I suppose the BBC showing a flight tracker stops them boring us to death about the outrageous scandal that Queenie having £3k invested in BrightHouse....0
-
To see the country through Brexit you mean and move towards a FTA with the EU, there is near zero chance May will lead the Tories at the next general election.Jonathan said:May, a safe pair of hands to see the Tory party through Brexit.
Er, no.
The longer she stays, the worse it gets.0 -
Indeed. Singh has a similar one for Corbyn that shows him as comparable to Kinnock and Miliband.Morris_Dancer said:FPT: Mr. Rhubarb, that graph is very counter-intuitive.
https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/926428161482592258
Now there are three options - the bubble is wrong, the numbers are wrong or everything is wrong - but how do we figure out which is the right answer?0 -
Today’s events give a whole new meaning to Ugandan DiscussionsDecrepitJohnL said:
We read Private Eye once a fortnight and tried to remember what all the nicknames and coded references meant.FrancisUrquhart said:https://twitter.com/Gethsemane65/status/928232990471282688
What did we ever do before 24hr news channels...
0 -
Never mind, If Rupert carries out his threat to close down Sky News (as reported in the business news) we will only have the BBCScott_P said:
Mind you the consolation is that Faisal Islam, Ed Conway, Adam Boulton and others will be off our screens0 -
At this stage of the cycle Cameron was dealing with the Millie Dowler phone hacking saga and the riots.Rhubarb said:
Indeed. Singh has a similar one for Corbyn that shows him as comparable to Kinnock and Miliband.Morris_Dancer said:FPT: Mr. Rhubarb, that graph is very counter-intuitive.
https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/926428161482592258
Now there are three options - the bubble is wrong, the numbers are wrong or everything is wrong - but how do we figure out which is the right answer?
Thatcher was dealing with a recession and dire unemployment stats.
Context is everything.0 -
Mr. Rhubarb, maybe the lessons to draw from that are that the public really don't pay attention to internal political stuff, and that time is a bigger factor for senior politicians than most events.0
-
We are entering Watergate territory with clandestine meetings and cover-ups.rottenborough said:Hold on, I'm lost. Are we now saying that Burt has told an untruth to the Commons? Or that FCO is covering up something?
Maybe Boris will end up in the frame somehow.0 -
The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.0
-
To be fair, May is dealing with Brexit and Sexual Harassment scandal...they aren't exactly calm waters.TheScreamingEagles said:
At this stage of the cycle Cameron was dealing with the Millie Dowler phone hacking saga and the riots.Rhubarb said:
Indeed. Singh has a similar one for Corbyn that shows him as comparable to Kinnock and Miliband.Morris_Dancer said:FPT: Mr. Rhubarb, that graph is very counter-intuitive.
https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/926428161482592258
Now there are three options - the bubble is wrong, the numbers are wrong or everything is wrong - but how do we figure out which is the right answer?
Thatcher was dealing with a recession and dire unemployment stats.
Context is everything.
I would suggest Brexit is even more polarizing than phone hacking.0 -
In the Terry Pratchett great philosophical works a shambles is a useful tool that can tell you what is going on, can give you a degree of protection from hostile forces and even give insight into what might be about to happen. In honour of these masterpieces I really think the word should be retired from descriptions of this government since none of these characteristics are present.
TSE's "bat shit mental" seems more appropriate.0 -
@philipjcowley: Everyone, today: She should do a major reshuffle. Stamp of authority. Nothing to lose.
Major reshuffle -> civil war in Conservative Party -> May ousted
Everyone, tomorrow: She crazy.0 -
On the day Bulgaria announces it's love for Russia and desire to leave the EUTheScreamingEagles said:The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.
0 -
Mr. Eagles, and yet, after the Battle of Arausio, which included rather worse infighting from Caepio and Maximus, the Romans subsequently defeated the Cimbri.
Or, for that matter, after the Varro/Paullus disagreement over Cannae tactics, Rome suffered a huge defeat and then won the war (eventually).
Edited extra bit: a shame we can't get Quintus Fabius Maximus to do the negotiating for us.0 -
Worst. Government. Ever.0
-
It would put all your betting types out of business...Morris_Dancer said:Mrs C, makes me wonder if someone will make an app for political resignations and firings. Sackr, perhaps?
0 -
You'd imagine Patel would be replaced by another female and preferably a leaver. So Mordaunt would fit the bill. (though not at 2/1)0
-
Worse opposition everSouthamObserver said:Worst. Government. Ever.
0 -
Bulgaria has not, a Bulgarian politician has.Big_G_NorthWales said:
On the day Bulgaria announces it's love for Russia and desire to leave the EUTheScreamingEagles said:The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.
You're going all Finland backs Catalonia again.0 -
Give it timeTheScreamingEagles said:
Bulgaria has not, a Bulgarian politician has.Big_G_NorthWales said:
On the day Bulgaria announces it's love for Russia and desire to leave the EUTheScreamingEagles said:The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.
You're going all Finland backs Catalonia again.0 -
There is nothing to 'outsmart.' Barnier and Juncker and Merkel have made clear either the UK pays the exit bill to move towards a FTA or there is no FTA.TheScreamingEagles said:The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.
The UK has already ruled out staying in the single market beyond a transition period in order to end free movement.0 -
I can see the parallels between Theresa May and Hannibal.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, and yet, after the Battle of Arausio, which included rather worse infighting from Caepio and Maximus, the Romans subsequently defeated the Cimbri.
Or, for that matter, after the Varro/Paullus disagreement over Cannae tactics, Rome suffered a huge defeat and then won the war (eventually).
Edited extra bit: a shame we can't get Quintus Fabius Maximus to do the negotiating for us.
Both vastly overrated for starters.
Cannae = Her 2017 General election.
Hollow victory and she lost the war.0 -
It would be funny if she turns out not to be on the plane.0
-
-
-
Mr. Eagles, hmm.
At Cannae, Hannibal successfully surrounded and annihilated a force twice his size in the greatest pincer movement in military history.
You think that resembles May's 2017 General Election?
Anyway, I don't have time to educate you (or attempt to do so, you do appear quite impervious to it), as the hound requires perambulation.0 -
She got a Cannae in 'practice' mode; it didn't turn out like that when she played for real.TheScreamingEagles said:
I can see the parallels between Theresa May and Hannibal.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, and yet, after the Battle of Arausio, which included rather worse infighting from Caepio and Maximus, the Romans subsequently defeated the Cimbri.
Or, for that matter, after the Varro/Paullus disagreement over Cannae tactics, Rome suffered a huge defeat and then won the war (eventually).
Edited extra bit: a shame we can't get Quintus Fabius Maximus to do the negotiating for us.
Both vastly overrated for starters.
Cannae = Her 2017 General election.
Hollow victory and she lost the war.0 -
If No 10 were in fact aware of these meetings but did not want them disclosed to the Foreign Office (at least officially) and Mrs May allowed an FO Minister to make a statement in the House that they were not disclosed we may just be leaving a period of relative calm....0
-
Categorical denial is current state of play.DavidL said:If No 10 were in fact aware of these meetings but did not want them disclosed to the Foreign Office (at least officially) and Mrs May allowed an FO Minister to make a statement in the House that they were not disclosed we may just be leaving a period of relative calm....
0 -
Why would we imagine that?Artist said:You'd imagine Patel would be replaced by another female and preferably a leaver. So Mordaunt would fit the bill. (though not at 2/1)
0 -
I believe the denial, because as I posted earlier the JC article doesn't seem to make sense.rottenborough said:
Categorical denial is current state of play.DavidL said:If No 10 were in fact aware of these meetings but did not want them disclosed to the Foreign Office (at least officially) and Mrs May allowed an FO Minister to make a statement in the House that they were not disclosed we may just be leaving a period of relative calm....
0 -
She pincered/ambushed herself as she lost the Tory majority.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, hmm.
At Cannae, Hannibal successfully surrounded and annihilated a force twice his size in the greatest pincer movement in military history.
You think that resembles May's 2017 General Election?
Anyway, I don't have time to educate you (or attempt to do so, you do appear quite impervious to it), as the hound requires perambulation.
A sort of Lake Trasimene in reverse0 -
One has to wonder what the LDs have to do to move in the polls. Doing absolutely nothing should put them in the 20% or 30% range. Yet nothing whatsoever changes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Worse opposition everSouthamObserver said:Worst. Government. Ever.
0 -
"Useless" is shorter and contains one less profanityDavidL said:In the Terry Pratchett great philosophical works a shambles is a useful tool that can tell you what is going on, can give you a degree of protection from hostile forces and even give insight into what might be about to happen. In honour of these masterpieces I really think the word should be retired from descriptions of this government since none of these characteristics are present.
TSE's "bat shit mental" seems more appropriate.
0 -
Because May has no actual power remaining so all she can do is make the closest possible like-for-like replacements in order to try not to offend any of the factions who could bring her down. I would say "or appoint staunch allies" but Williamson was the only remaining person pretending to be one of those and he just got a promotion.Beverley_C said:
Why would we imagine that?Artist said:You'd imagine Patel would be replaced by another female and preferably a leaver. So Mordaunt would fit the bill. (though not at 2/1)
0 -
They will just deny that. Categorically.rottenborough said:
Categorical denial is current state of play.DavidL said:If No 10 were in fact aware of these meetings but did not want them disclosed to the Foreign Office (at least officially) and Mrs May allowed an FO Minister to make a statement in the House that they were not disclosed we may just be leaving a period of relative calm....
0 -
-
No wonder UK productivity is so shit...Scott_P said:twitter.com/flightradar24/status/928241878285344768
0 -
So, you're Patel. You're on the flight. What do you do. Does LHR have a back door?
Does she go to no10 or do a little press conference at the airport?
What does she do with duty frees?0 -
Although back during the Cold War Bulgaria was the only Warsaw Pact country to petition for admission to the Soviet Union. More than once I believe.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bulgaria has not, a Bulgarian politician has.Big_G_NorthWales said:
On the day Bulgaria announces it's love for Russia and desire to leave the EUTheScreamingEagles said:The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.
You're going all Finland backs Catalonia again.0 -
And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.Scott_P said:@philipjcowley: Everyone, today: She should do a major reshuffle. Stamp of authority. Nothing to lose.
Major reshuffle -> civil war in Conservative Party -> May ousted
Everyone, tomorrow: She crazy.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.0 -
She should ask it to divert and seek asylum in Tel Aviv.Scott_P said:0 -
Should May call a Time-out ?0
-
We learned this year that Brown got that decision soooooo right.TOPPING said:
And yet we still mock Brown.Scott_P said:@philipjcowley: Everyone, today: She should do a major reshuffle. Stamp of authority. Nothing to lose.
Major reshuffle -> civil war in Conservative Party -> May ousted
Everyone, tomorrow: She crazy.0 -
The scenery on this bit of the flight is lovely.0
-
Is Priti being a spook really a sacking offence ?0
-
Guardian reporting on Five Live:
Soubry agreed. She said: "I’m with Mary [Creagh]. I think Mary’s instincts are usually good and on this one I’m sure she is right."
I'm increasingly wondering about Soubry's place in the Conservatives. She seems to be freelancing as an independent centrist rather than a whipped Tory MP.
As it is, the whips seem to have largely given up, just rolling over and abstaining every time Labour looks like winning a vote. But assuming Patel also becomes an enemy of May after the near-inevitable sacking, that DUP-enhanced majority is looking more precarious by the day. How on earth is any Brexit legislation going to get through?0 -
The decision was never really the issue. The problem was the way the whole thing was handled including an excruciating interview iirc with Andy Marr explaining why there had never ever ever been a plan to hold an early election.Jonathan said:
We learned this year that Brown got that decision soooooo right.TOPPING said:
And yet we still mock Brown.Scott_P said:@philipjcowley: Everyone, today: She should do a major reshuffle. Stamp of authority. Nothing to lose.
Major reshuffle -> civil war in Conservative Party -> May ousted
Everyone, tomorrow: She crazy.0 -
Jacob Rees-Mogg at 20\1 at Ladbrokes to replace Priti Patel? But he's already basically said he'd prefer to be in the cabinet when he runs for the leadership. His stint at the DFID on his way to Number Ten could be shorter than John Major's at the Foreign Office. I'll ask Betfair to open a book on Priti Patel's successor0
-
It is an approach from the east today at Heathrow (runway 27L is the landing runway) so maybe Ms Patel can wave at Downing St as she comes past - the approach runs in from Greenwich, over Clapham Common and down to Heathrow. Today's METAR is
EGLL 081220Z AUTO 36007KT 310V040 9999 BKN031 OVC044 09/04 Q1023
so they might switch direction if the wind veers round a bit more. I am assuming she sat on the right as befits her political outlook
0 -
https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/status/928243912904511488Pong said:The scenery on this bit of the flight is lovely.
0 -
A major and bold reshuffle would be a risk, of course, but one with considerable potential upside. Conversely, doing as little as possible is also a risk, but one with little or no upside. What's more, now is a particularly good time to be bold, because her most dangerous ministers are currently weak and the sexual harassment scandal is a restraining factor on any plots.TOPPING said:And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.
There will never be a better time for her to seize the initiative.
However, she won't.0 -
If you think the level of hostility that May is facing is unrelated to Brexit then I have a bridge for sale.TheScreamingEagles said:The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.
Hence why no one wants the job - until 60 seconds after Brexit.0 -
@jimwaterson: Hard to believe it's only two hours until Sky News is broadcasting a grainy live shot of Priti Patel's aircraft landing at Heathrow.0
-
It's all getting a bit silly.Scott_P said:@jimwaterson: Hard to believe it's only two hours until Sky News is broadcasting a grainy live shot of Priti Patel's aircraft landing at Heathrow.
I mean, "she's only a Cabinet minister".0 -
Nothing on pprune yet.Beverley_C said:It is an approach from the east today at Heathrow (runway 27L is the landing runway) so maybe Ms Patel can wave at Downing St as she comes past - the approach runs in from Greenwich, over Clapham Common and down to Heathrow. Today's METAR is
EGLL 081220Z AUTO 36007KT 310V040 9999 BKN031 OVC044 09/04 Q1023
so they might switch direction if the wind veers round a bit more. I am assuming she sat on the right as befits her political outlook
If it ain't on pprune it ain't interesting in the skies.0 -
She either carries on like this, or rolls the dice. No brainer.Richard_Nabavi said:
A major and bold reshuffle would be a risk, of course, but one with considerable potential upside. Conversely, doing as little as possible is also a risk, but one with with little or no upside. What's more, now is a particularly good time to be bold, because her most dangerous ministers are currently weak and the sexual harassment scandal is a restraining factor on any plots.TOPPING said:And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.
There will never be a better time for her to seize the initiative.
However, she won't.0 -
I think she's sat next to the exit as befits her career outlook.Beverley_C said:It is an approach from the east today at Heathrow (runway 27L is the landing runway) so maybe Ms Patel can wave at Downing St as she comes past - the approach runs in from Greenwich, over Clapham Common and down to Heathrow. Today's METAR is
EGLL 081220Z AUTO 36007KT 310V040 9999 BKN031 OVC044 09/04 Q1023
so they might switch direction if the wind veers round a bit more. I am assuming she sat on the right as befits her political outlook0 -
As far as I can see, Mrs May has gambled precisely once* in her entire life. That was to call an early election. I doubt she'll be trying gambling again.Jonathan said:
She either carries on like this, or rolls the dice. No brainer.Richard_Nabavi said:
A major and bold reshuffle would be a risk, of course, but one with considerable potential upside. Conversely, doing as little as possible is also a risk, but one with with little or no upside. What's more, now is a particularly good time to be bold, because her most dangerous ministers are currently weak and the sexual harassment scandal is a restraining factor on any plots.TOPPING said:And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.
There will never be a better time for her to seize the initiative.
However, she won't.
* Edit: possibly twice - "nasty party" speech.0 -
She won't because it is an asymmetric risk. Do something, risk getting ejected. Do nothing, risk becoming ever weaker (on the assumption that surely - surely - if anyone was going to try their hand against her they would have done so by now).Richard_Nabavi said:
A major and bold reshuffle would be a risk, of course, but one with considerable potential upside. Conversely, doing as little as possible is also a risk, but one with with little or no upside. What's more, now is a particularly good time to be bold, because her most dangerous ministers are currently weak and the sexual harassment scandal is a restraining factor on any plots.TOPPING said:And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.
There will never be a better time for her to seize the initiative.
However, she won't.0 -
She's probably having a quick meeting with the flight captain, which neither her department, No.10 or FO know about.Polruan said:
I think she's sat next to the exit as befits her career outlook.Beverley_C said:It is an approach from the east today at Heathrow (runway 27L is the landing runway) so maybe Ms Patel can wave at Downing St as she comes past - the approach runs in from Greenwich, over Clapham Common and down to Heathrow. Today's METAR is
EGLL 081220Z AUTO 36007KT 310V040 9999 BKN031 OVC044 09/04 Q1023
so they might switch direction if the wind veers round a bit more. I am assuming she sat on the right as befits her political outlook0 -
At this rate 60 seconds after Brexit will be the precise point May's premiership ends.TGOHF said:
If you think the level of hostility that May is facing is unrelated to Brexit then I have a bridge for sale.TheScreamingEagles said:The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.
Hence why no one wants the job - until 60 seconds after Brexit.0 -
Priti s plane now two hours from Heathrow.
The fun thing is that no-one on the plane will have any idea what’s going on back on the ground in London, unless someone chooses to make a call on the sat phone system. You can’t make an incoming call to the plane, except via ATC or the airline.
She’ll have no idea at all that 22,000 people and the two 24h news channels have been following the plane in real time all day!0 -
You might imagine that, I could not possibly commentPolruan said:
Because May has no actual power remaining so all she can do is make the closest possible like-for-like replacements in order to try not to offend any of the factions who could bring her down. I would say "or appoint staunch allies" but Williamson was the only remaining person pretending to be one of those and he just got a promotion.Beverley_C said:
Why would we imagine that?Artist said:You'd imagine Patel would be replaced by another female and preferably a leaver. So Mordaunt would fit the bill. (though not at 2/1)
0 -
A major reshuffle would make no fundamental difference. It might look good for a week or two but the fundamental problem would be unchanged. The Tory Party has no coherent policy on Brexit and a reshuffle will not conjour one up. They are completely incapable of governing.Richard_Nabavi said:
A major and bold reshuffle would be a risk, of course, but one with considerable potential upside. Conversely, doing as little as possible is also a risk, but one with with little or no upside. What's more, now is a particularly good time to be bold, because her most dangerous ministers are currently weak and the sexual harassment scandal is a restraining factor on any plots.TOPPING said:And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.
There will never be a better time for her to seize the initiative.
However, she won't.0 -
Perversely, she benefits from having several weak leadership contenders in the frame. As soon as she ditches a few of them, MPs may rally around another and no longer feel any need to delay pulling the triggerRichard_Nabavi said:
A major and bold reshuffle would be a risk, of course, but one with considerable potential upside. Conversely, doing as little as possible is also a risk, but one with little or no upside. What's more, now is a particularly good time to be bold, because her most dangerous ministers are currently weak and the sexual harassment scandal is a restraining factor on any plots.TOPPING said:And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.
There will never be a better time for her to seize the initiative.
However, she won't.0 -
Good point. I imagine the thing she cares most about now is salvaging her reputation and leaving on some kind of up swing. I fear she might be disappointed.rottenborough said:
As far as I can see, Mrs May has gambled precisely once in her entire life. That was to call an early election. I doubt she'll be trying gambling again.Jonathan said:
She either carries on like this, or rolls the dice. No brainer.Richard_Nabavi said:
A major and bold reshuffle would be a risk, of course, but one with considerable potential upside. Conversely, doing as little as possible is also a risk, but one with with little or no upside. What's more, now is a particularly good time to be bold, because her most dangerous ministers are currently weak and the sexual harassment scandal is a restraining factor on any plots.TOPPING said:And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.
There will never be a better time for her to seize the initiative.
However, she won't.0 -
-
No argument from me on that. How blessed we are to have the two combined.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Edit - I’d say this is the second worst opposition ever. The worst was the one Corbyn led before the general election.
I am struggling to think of a government that gets close to the current one for sheer ineptitude and dysfunctionality.
0 -
All she is focused on now is moving towards a FTA with the EUJonathan said:
Good point. I imagine the thing she cares most about now is salvaging her reputation and leaving on some kind of up swing. I fear she might be disappointed.rottenborough said:
As far as I can see, Mrs May has gambled precisely once in her entire life. That was to call an early election. I doubt she'll be trying gambling again.Jonathan said:
She either carries on like this, or rolls the dice. No brainer.Richard_Nabavi said:
A major and bold reshuffle would be a risk, of course, but one with considerable potential upside. Conversely, doing as little as possible is also a risk, but one with with little or no upside. What's more, now is a particularly good time to be bold, because her most dangerous ministers are currently weak and the sexual harassment scandal is a restraining factor on any plots.TOPPING said:And yet we still mock Brown for not having the cojones to call an election. Such changes are unstable, unpredictable and events can turn on the slightest (or in this case, most enormous) issue.
I don't blame her for not rocking the boat.
It is execrable, weak, bad government, a shambles. But I don't blame her for it.
There will never be a better time for her to seize the initiative.
However, she won't.0 -
It wont be far off - certainly within 60 days.HYUFD said:
At this rate 60 seconds after Brexit will be the precise point May's premiership ends.TGOHF said:
If you think the level of hostility that May is facing is unrelated to Brexit then I have a bridge for sale.TheScreamingEagles said:The EU must look at Mrs May and her cabinet and think this lot will not outsmart us in the Brexit negotiations.
Hence why no one wants the job - until 60 seconds after Brexit.
External forces are at work at present - can she stagger over the line in March '19.0 -
Polruan said:
I think she's sat next to the exit as befits her career outlook.Beverley_C said:It is an approach from the east today at Heathrow (runway 27L is the landing runway) so maybe Ms Patel can wave at Downing St as she comes past - the approach runs in from Greenwich, over Clapham Common and down to Heathrow. Today's METAR is
EGLL 081220Z AUTO 36007KT 310V040 9999 BKN031 OVC044 09/04 Q1023
so they might switch direction if the wind veers round a bit more. I am assuming she sat on the right as befits her political outlook
0 -
What are the odds on a general election within 12 months?0
-
Does this farce now qualify for a -gate suffix?
Prittigate?0 -
Surely you are not allowed to update it from the flightdeck???!!??TOPPING said:
Nothing on pprune yet.Beverley_C said:It is an approach from the east today at Heathrow (runway 27L is the landing runway) so maybe Ms Patel can wave at Downing St as she comes past - the approach runs in from Greenwich, over Clapham Common and down to Heathrow. Today's METAR is
EGLL 081220Z AUTO 36007KT 310V040 9999 BKN031 OVC044 09/04 Q1023
so they might switch direction if the wind veers round a bit more. I am assuming she sat on the right as befits her political outlook
If it ain't on pprune it ain't interesting in the skies.0 -
Rejoice, rejoice !
Oh come, oh come, Priti Patel
And ransom captive Israel0
