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I think Rudd's past business dealings may be an obstacle to her becoming PM, perhaps rather more than her marginal seat is. (After all, candidates can always be moved between seats, and if new boundaries lead to lots of MPs shuffling around a bit I'm sure she can get away with it.)camel said:
And Rudd hangs in.The_Apocalypse said:@Sandpit....
Scott_P said:@reactionlife: ITV reporting that Theresa May is likely to announce her intention to resign and trigger a Conservative leadership contest this morning.
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Alex Salmond gone & Vince Cable back from the dead.TwistedFireStopper said:So, it really did turn into a "couldn't give a fuck" election.
I've just woken up, any big names gone?0 -
I would feel sorry for May if it wasn't for her mean spirited behaviour towards Osborne. Arrogance was always going to be her undoing0
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Labour narrowly hold Ashfield.0
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Ashford lab Hold0
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They should have both been easy labour gains based on the other results in london.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
Ashford sorry0
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They'll set themselves up as sitting ducks in a couple of years time if recession hits.archer101au said:Can CON just govern on their own? Without SF 322 is a majority. Why not just hold the Queen's speech. Do we really think the LDs will vote it down - I assume they will decide to abstain for either a Con or Lab Queen's Speech - if they do vote it down they will get hammered at the next election, which lets face it will probably be later in the year. I doubt the DUP will vote them down even if there is no agreement with them - they just did well and they will not provoke a UK election if they think Corbyn will win.
Just go it alone?0 -
God, Peston is insufferable.0
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12 at the moment, DCT not declared AFAICT.KentRising said:So the blues will end up with 12 MPs in Scotland?
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Lab hold Ashfield - no figures.0
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Clegg, Salmond.TwistedFireStopper said:So, it really did turn into a "couldn't give a fuck" election.
I've just woken up, any big names gone?0 -
Yep.nunu said:Ruth has saved us from PM Corbyn.
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That would be the last thing I'd describe it as!TwistedFireStopper said:So, it really did turn into a "couldn't give a fuck" election.
I've just woken up, any big names gone?0 -
She held on by about 400.dr_spyn said:Lab hold Ashfield - no figures.
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Lab 39 votes ahead in KENSINGTON after 1st recount.0
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Nemesis follows hubris...Roger said:I would feel sorry for May if it wasn't for her mean spirited behaviour towards Osborne. Arrogance was always going to be her undoing
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You seem unable to determine the difference between disagreeing with someone's views and being rude.JosiasJessop said:
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.Mortimer said:
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.JosiasJessop said:
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.Mortimer said:
Again, time to take the personal away.JosiasJessop said:
LOSERS:Alanbrooke said:WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
Labour party moderates
SNP
Austerity
you.
Its not necessary; and it makes you sound petty.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
Time to turn in and return with more rationality....0 -
Another Tory Stephen crabby held on by 330 ,votes fucks sake.0
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What a story. She wanted to be PM to fulfil a role of public service. She wasn't a bad fit for the role. But she can't ever have imagined that her life's main achievement was destined to be a smooth Brexit. Living a lie is putting it too strongly, but in the end the poverty of her campaigning was symptomatic of her lack of belief in the Brexit project. (She looked unhappy from the second day of the campaign.) She'll be sad to have had such a short tenure but she won't be sad to retire from such a crappy vocation.RobD said:
Suspect she very much wants to do that now.bardigiani said:All I can say is that Theresa May should resign as PM, resign as an MP and retire from public life never to be heard from again.
Amber Rudd is a Remainer too...
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It is ironic that Ruth Davidson is the type of person that makes the DUP types want to throw up if they are in a good mood. I won't speculate what they would do on a bad day.0
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It's cause the Tory seats typically come last, so they are more likely to hold on in them.TravelJunkie said:Another Tory Stephen crabby held on by 330 ,votes fucks sake.
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The austerity that is hitting England while parts of britain it doesn't affect,It looks like parts of England are saying we want some of that.0
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There is a chance that the exit poll is exactly right. But even if it is not it will probably be within 2 seats for each party. Much kudos to Curtice and his team0
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Zach goldsmith leading by 800
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Labour gain in Southampton Itchen also expected.0
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The Scottish Tory Manifesto was far more palatable than the UK version..KentRising said:
Yep.nunu said:Ruth has saved us from PM Corbyn.
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Has Southampton itchen called?0
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Surely next leader is Rudd?0
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They need to do their duty now. Get Brexit through, don't focus of any silliness like dementia taxes, keep their heads down, work for a deal and go back to the country in late 2019. Get Davis in as PM (Brexiteer in chief).hunchman said:
They'll set themselves up as sitting ducks in a couple of years time if recession hits.archer101au said:Can CON just govern on their own? Without SF 322 is a majority. Why not just hold the Queen's speech. Do we really think the LDs will vote it down - I assume they will decide to abstain for either a Con or Lab Queen's Speech - if they do vote it down they will get hammered at the next election, which lets face it will probably be later in the year. I doubt the DUP will vote them down even if there is no agreement with them - they just did well and they will not provoke a UK election if they think Corbyn will win.
Just go it alone?
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BBC is forecasting two more Con net losses.0
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chortleJosiasJessop said:
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.Mortimer said:
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.JosiasJessop said:
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.Mortimer said:
Again, time to take the personal away.JosiasJessop said:
LOSERS:Alanbrooke said:WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
Labour party moderates
SNP
Austerity
you.
Its not necessary; and it makes you sound petty.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
youre off on one again
for the record I have never been against Cameron as such he never moved me one way or the other he was just sort of there
On Osborne, no prizes for guessing he has caused much of the conservative cock up of today0 -
Talk of BJ as next Tory leader. Well done Ruth!0
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Zac?0
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Clegg and Salmond? Maybe there is a god after all!0
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The DUP are suddenly the fifth party on the BBC's ticker graphic, replacing Greens/UKIP.
A subtle but important change. We all need to bone-up on the DUP now.
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No, recount ongoing, but Labour were ahead by more than 100 votes on previous count.TravelJunkie said:Has Southampton itchen called?
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Chipping barnet - narrow Con hold by 563.0
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Taking the longer view, the Union is more secure - and my home constituency is Tory again after 30 years of SNP - I think we've passed peak SNP.DavidL said:
Well kinda mixed but as Ruth said Indyref2 is dead. And that was for me the most important thing to come out of this election.Alanbrooke said:
excellent night for you DavidDavidL said:Another tory gain in Scotland but that is the last one. We have a hold to come.
Mrs May has certainly secured her place in history - not the one she'd want, or I would have wished for her, but obscurity on the back benches beckons and walking holidays with Philip.
As for BREXIT, we'll see. Not sure any of the opposition parties had coherent Brexit plans any more than the Tories. 'Our slogans are better than your slogans' is irrelevant for the next five years.
On the plus side, UKIP have moved into the deceased column and Corbyn is secure in Labour.0 -
For sale: One Tory 50%+ poll klaxon. Barely used. £3 ono.0
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Much as he is a flawed individual, Olney is awful and it would be good to see her out of the house after a very short stayTravelJunkie said:Zach goldsmith leading by 80
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Looks like there has been good news in this election for everyone.TwistedFireStopper said:Clegg and Salmond? Maybe there is a god after all!
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No, I don't think so. Could make Chancellor though. Job swap with Hammond.Razedabode said:Surely next leader is Rudd?
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306-257, 20 still to declare. Anything interesting still to stay up for? Really should get up at 9am *cries to self*0
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Hm, does it sound like the SCON klaxon? Mine is all worn out....SirNorfolkPassmore said:For sale: One Tory 50%+ poll klaxon. Barely used. £3 ono.
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No.Mortimer said:
You seem unable to determine the difference between disagreeing with someone's views and being rude.JosiasJessop said:
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.Mortimer said:
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.JosiasJessop said:
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.Mortimer said:
Again, time to take the personal away.JosiasJessop said:
LOSERS:Alanbrooke said:WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
Labour party moderates
SNP
Austerity
you.
Its not necessary; and it makes you sound petty.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
Time to turn in and return with more rationality....
Please re-read my posts, and those I am responding to in the past.
I'd have more time with your intruding into this thread if you'd done similar in the past when idiots have made other comments.0 -
Southampton Test Lab hold 10k majority.0
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Tories now in 306 seats. Back to Dave 2010. At least May can console herself that she'll better that result.0
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Hung parliament.
Fuck.0 -
how many seats will LD's end up with?
Dont say 11!0 -
Southampton test 27k lol0
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Northern Ireland:
10 DUP
7 SF0 -
Already on 12noisywinter said:how many seats will LD's end up with?
Dont say 11!0 -
Bojo gets the poisoned chalice?old_labour said:Talk of BJ as next Tory leader. Well done Ruth!
The leader of a Tory minority government will lead to defeat in next election, which surely is not far off.0 -
Southampton Itchen, held by 31 votes.0
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Southampton itchen 30 votes ffs0
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Con hold Itchen by 31!0
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Yes!ThreeQuidder said:Con hold Itchen by 31!
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She gave us stability for the 9 months after Brexit and got Article 50 through the Commons - her brief but eventful stint as PM will go down in the history books. She's earned her place. Now it's time for her to leave the stage and for someone else to write the next chapter.CarlottaVance said:
Taking the longer view, the Union is more secure - and my home constituency is Tory again after 30 years of SNP - I think we've passed peak SNP.DavidL said:
Well kinda mixed but as Ruth said Indyref2 is dead. And that was for me the most important thing to come out of this election.Alanbrooke said:
excellent night for you DavidDavidL said:Another tory gain in Scotland but that is the last one. We have a hold to come.
Mrs May has certainly secured her place in history - not the one she'd want, or I would have wished for her, but obscurity on the back benches beckons and walking holidays with Philip.
As for BREXIT, we'll see. Not sure any of the opposition parties had coherent Brexit plans any more than the Tories. 'Our slogans are better than your slogans' is irrelevant for the next five years.
On the plus side, UKIP have moved into the deceased column and Corbyn is secure in Labour.0 -
Con hold by 31 votesTravelJunkie said:Has Southampton itchen called?
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Surprising hold in Itchen in my opinion.0
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No country for old men!TravelJunkie said:Southampton itchen 30 votes ffs
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They are on 12 with chances in order likelyhood NE Fife, Richmond and Ceredigion all 3 are in various recountsnoisywinter said:how many seats will LD's end up with?
Dont say 11!0 -
Yep. I re-read the post. You called another poster a loser. Nothing more than that.JosiasJessop said:
No.Mortimer said:
You seem unable to determine the difference between disagreeing with someone's views and being rude.JosiasJessop said:
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.Mortimer said:
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.JosiasJessop said:
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.Mortimer said:
Again, time to take the personal away.JosiasJessop said:
LOSERS:Alanbrooke said:WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
Labour party moderates
SNP
Austerity
you.
Its not necessary; and it makes you sound petty.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
Time to turn in and return with more rationality....
Please re-read my posts, and those I am responding to in the past.
I'd have more time with your intruding into this thread if you'd done similar in the past when idiots have made other comments.
And now you're throwing a strop because you're being called on it.
Time to let it go and grab a kip.0 -
Tory party going to get wiped out in 2022 if they doing to power.0
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12 already.noisywinter said:how many seats will LD's end up with?
Dont say 11!0 -
Tories held Chipping Barnet by 353.0
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With no dementia tax, no u-turns, lots of populist giveaways, and some flexibility on Brexit, Boris will crush the old scrote into the ground.foxinsoxuk said:
Bojo gets the poisoned chalice?old_labour said:Talk of BJ as next Tory leader. Well done Ruth!
The leader of a Tory minority government will lead to defeat in next election, which surely is not far off.0 -
Jesus. That's way off what I found last weekend.dr_spyn said:Southampton Test Lab hold 10k majority.
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The biggest winners are the hard Left. Sadly.
The Tories need to have a proper leadership election and need to rethink their approach to Brexit. Quite fundamentally in my view.
I'm glad Wes Streeting won. I was at a lunch with him recently and liked him. Very sad about Nick Clegg. But glad that the Lib Dems did better than expected.
It's a funny old world, as someone once said, that the Tories will have got one of their highest shares of the vote and done very well in Scotland but it feels like a defeat for them.
Still, thankfully at least no PM Corbyn - for now - and even if I'm not a Corbyn supporter, good that the young have turned out to vote. It is not good to have people not voting and if it means that politicians listen to their concerns so much the better.
The trouble is all groups are being bribed and the economy is simply not strong enough to pay for all the promises. At some point soon reality is going to hit and it's not going to be pretty.
Finally, I am going to buff my nails and blow my own trumpet.
I thought Corbyn might just do it and said as much on here a few days ago, to general derision.
I was wrong but not as wrong as all those predicting large Tory majorities.
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plus one Indold_labour said:Northern Ireland:
10 DUP
7 SF0 -
Corbyn has beaten Blair's votes with more than 2001 & 2005.
Also Con hold Dumfries0 -
Osborne's not in power. This disaster (and I see it as such) is not down to him, but the clown party of May, Davis, Boris and Fox, along with their acolytes.Alanbrooke said:
chortleJosiasJessop said:
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.Mortimer said:
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.JosiasJessop said:
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.Mortimer said:
Again, time to take the personal away.JosiasJessop said:
LOSERS:Alanbrooke said:WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
Labour party moderates
SNP
Austerity
you.
Its not necessary; and it makes you sound petty.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
youre off on one again
for the record I have never been against Cameron as such he never moved me one way or the other he was just sort of there
On Osborne, no prizes for guessing he has caused much of the conservative cock up of today
The politics of Cameron and Osborne are the future of the Conservative Party, not that of the Europhobes who currently hold the party's reins.0 -
old_labour said:
Northern Ireland:
10 DUP
7 SF
Does 7 SF not make the Tories bang on a majority? And they can depend on the Speaker. Gulp.0 -
This result could've been even worse for the Tories, very easily. So many seats went down to the wire, with them JUST getting over the line.0
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Note my previous posts over the last month.CarlottaVance said:Corbyn has beaten Blair's votes with more than 2001 & 2005.
Also Con hold Dumfries0 -
Maybe some far-left lunatic will hold power in Britain one day.TravelJunkie said:Tory party going to get wiped out in 2022 if they doing to power.
But not today.0 -
LOL!blueblue said:
With no dementia tax, no u-turns, lots of populist giveaways, and some flexibility on Brexit, Boris will crush the old scrote into the ground.foxinsoxuk said:
Bojo gets the poisoned chalice?old_labour said:Talk of BJ as next Tory leader. Well done Ruth!
The leader of a Tory minority government will lead to defeat in next election, which surely is not far off.
Not going to happen.
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4 seats left to declare on the Labour target list:
Southampton Itchen.
Crewe & Nantwich.
Crawley.
Brighton Pavilion.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTW1Szr7ktZeVmbnnJex_CfSifFQSUTtZiBVHSiKTmw/edit?usp=drive_web&usp=sheets_home&ths=true0 -
Yes, I'm very worried about the hard Left.Cyclefree said:The biggest winners are the hard Left. Sadly.
The Tories need to have a proper leadership election and need to rethink their approach to Brexit. Quite fundamentally in my view.
I'm glad Wes Streeting won. I was at a lunch with him recently and liked him. Very sad about Nick Clegg. But glad that the Lib Dems did better than expected.
It's a funny old world, as someone once said, that the Tories will have got one of their highest shares of the vote and done very well in Scotland but it feels like a defeat for them.
Still, thankfully at least no PM Corbyn - for now - and even if I'm not a Corbyn supporter, good that the young have turned out to vote. It is not good to have people not voting and if it means that politicians listen to their concerns so much the better.
The trouble is all groups are being bribed and the economy is simply not strong enough to pay for all the promises. At some point soon reality is going to hit and it's not going to be pretty.
Finally, I am going to buff my nails and blow my own trumpet.
I thought Corbyn might just do it and said as much on here a few days ago, to general derision.
I was wrong but not as wrong as all those predicting large Tory majorities.
I don't know how the Tories increase their popularity to prevent a defeat to them in a year or two, however.0 -
Labour are winning in 2022.Danny565 said:This result could've been even worse for the Tories, very easily. So many seats went down to the wire, with them JUST getting over the line.
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May is unworthy to shine Cameron's and Osborne's shoes.0
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Declaration for Brighton Pavilion coming shortly. Come on Labour!0
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Me too. As much as I dislike and detest the Tories, a hard left government doesn't bear thinking aboutCasino_Royale said:
Yes, I'm very worried about the hard Left.Cyclefree said:The biggest winners are the hard Left. Sadly.
The Tories need to have a proper leadership election and need to rethink their approach to Brexit. Quite fundamentally in my view.
I'm glad Wes Streeting won. I was at a lunch with him recently and liked him. Very sad about Nick Clegg. But glad that the Lib Dems did better than expected.
It's a funny old world, as someone once said, that the Tories will have got one of their highest shares of the vote and done very well in Scotland but it feels like a defeat for them.
Still, thankfully at least no PM Corbyn - for now - and even if I'm not a Corbyn supporter, good that the young have turned out to vote. It is not good to have people not voting and if it means that politicians listen to their concerns so much the better.
The trouble is all groups are being bribed and the economy is simply not strong enough to pay for all the promises. At some point soon reality is going to hit and it's not going to be pretty.
Finally, I am going to buff my nails and blow my own trumpet.
I thought Corbyn might just do it and said as much on here a few days ago, to general derision.
I was wrong but not as wrong as all those predicting large Tory majorities.
I don't know how the Tories increase their popularity to prevent a defeat to them in a year or two, however.0 -
Tories hold Southampton Itchen by 31 votes.0
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Also, I wonder how all those Tories who paid £3 to vote for Corbyn feel now....
LOL0 -
It will be more than 57% next time. These gamblers will not be trusted again. Finished for a generation.TravelJunkie said:The Tories ignored 48% that voted remain.
They will ignore 57% that voted against Tory party.0 -
Con has held ItchenAndyJS said:4 seats left to declare on the Labour target list:
Southampton Itchen.
Crewe & Nantwich.
Crawley.
Brighton Pavilion.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTW1Szr7ktZeVmbnnJex_CfSifFQSUTtZiBVHSiKTmw/edit?usp=drive_web&usp=sheets_home&ths=true0 -
Scotland was the Tories saving grace IMHO – or should that be Ruth…Danny565 said:This result could've been even worse for the Tories, very easily. So many seats went down to the wire, with them JUST getting over the line.
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That gives me time to prepare my finances and arrangements accordingly, however.The_Apocalypse said:
Labour are winning in 2022.Danny565 said:This result could've been even worse for the Tories, very easily. So many seats went down to the wire, with them JUST getting over the line.
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Voters couldn't give a fuck about the consequences, much like Brexit and Trump. I voted Green, unfortunately Nicky Morgan still won!Roger said:
That would be the last thing I'd describe it as!TwistedFireStopper said:So, it really did turn into a "couldn't give a fuck" election.
I've just woken up, any big names gone?0