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REFERENDUM RETHINK? The Herald's Paul Hutcheon cites SNP sources saying #indyref2 is 'dead' https://t.co/biwc7lucWr pic.twitter.com/6ZbdKjcO7s

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  • ManchesterKurt
    ManchesterKurt Posts: 931
    eeeef
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Hope so!
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310
    edited June 2017
    Second. Again! Oops...third.
  • spudgfsh
    spudgfsh Posts: 1,568
    First again?
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Mansfield Conservative gain
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Tories doing relatively well in the Midlands outside the metropolitan cities.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Cheltenham con hold
  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Con hold Cheltenham
    SNP hold Ross Skye
  • AlastairMeeks
    AlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    And English nationalism.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    God.. an October election. I don't think I could cope.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    Recount at Ashfield.

    Looking less glorious for Gloria?
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    Indyref dead. Especially if no likelihood of tory landslide in future.
  • Stereotomy
    Stereotomy Posts: 4,092
    Is the BBC forecast still looking probably accurate? Are there many uncertain seats still to come?
  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Recount at Crewe - not out of line with the trend.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @jessicaelgot: Anna Soubry holds on in Broxtowe #GE2017
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Bollocks.

    Recount in Crewe and Nantwich
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    numbertwelve said:

    Recount at Ashfield.

    Looking less glorious for Gloria?

    That would be great for the Tories!
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    We cannot be too triumphant, they are still strong. But we can hope
    TravelJunkie said:

    Labour gain a seat in reading omg

    67th on their target list - they've gained some well past that, but not gained some in the top 10 either.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    Scott_P said:

    @jessicaelgot: Anna Soubry holds on in Broxtowe #GE2017

    Oh bugger.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    Scott_P said:

    @jessicaelgot: Anna Soubry holds on in Broxtowe #GE2017

    I'm actually shocked, that goes against exit poll too.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    numbertwelve said:

    Recount at Ashfield.

    Looking less glorious for Gloria?

    Probably for a lost deposit?
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    kle4 said:

    We cannot be too triumphant, they are still strong. But we can hope

    TravelJunkie said:

    Labour gain a seat in reading omg

    67th on their target list - they've gained some well past that, but not gained some in the top 10 either.
    Reading East? That is slightly surprising, and sad. He was a good MP.
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Recount in Ashfield
  • The_Apocalypse
    The_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Scott_P said:

    @jessicaelgot: Anna Soubry holds on in Broxtowe #GE2017

    Great :smiley:
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Con hold Thanet South
  • jonny83
    jonny83 Posts: 1,273
    RobD said:

    jonny83 said:

    ITV chart Labour doing better than the over 65's than the Tories...

    Er? :o
    Sorry tired typing on my phone. Labour winning over the over 65's in this election according to ITV.
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @jessicaelgot: Anna Soubry holds on in Broxtowe #GE2017

    I'm actually shocked, that goes against exit poll too.
    Logic has gone out of the window in this election
  • DecrepitJohnL
    DecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    The SNP still dominates Scotland. It's not killed nationalism but the SNP might need to find something else to focus on for a few months. What it will have killed stone dead is the Conservative idea that Scotland is a foreign country -- the belief that gave us Osborne's gerrymandering boundary reforms and EVEL.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Con hold Thanet South

    Ha! Amusing result.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @nickeardleybbc: Tories now think they've won Banff and Buchan
  • TravelJunkie
    TravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Tories will get majority. They just hold on effecient vote in fptp system.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    Shipley - Con not lost?
  • jonny83
    jonny83 Posts: 1,273
    That social care policy was a real killer...
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BBCPhilipSim: Edinburgh South West is an SNP HOLD - Joanna Cherry hangs on for the SNP.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Sky says Lab hold Blyth Valley, which is odd because I thought it was counting tomorrow...
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    Joanna Cherry holds on. Damn
  • stjohn
    stjohn Posts: 1,910
    May out to 2.52 as next PM!
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    BBC forecast reduced further for cons - 318 con, 267 lab, 32 snp, 11 LD
  • RobinWiggs
    RobinWiggs Posts: 621
    Salmond toast.
  • TravelJunkie
    TravelJunkie Posts: 431
    All recounts going tory
  • RochdalePioneers
    RochdalePioneers Posts: 30,611
    May is toast even if the DUP prop her up. How she is supposed to negotiate a Brexit deal from a position of strength is genuinely absurd. Who replaces her...? BoJo surely not. Rudd if she clings on?
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    Broxtowe - held by Soubrey.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    Chameleon said:

    kle4 said:

    We cannot be too triumphant, they are still strong. But we can hope

    TravelJunkie said:

    Labour gain a seat in reading omg

    67th on their target list - they've gained some well past that, but not gained some in the top 10 either.
    Reading East? That is slightly surprising, and sad. He was a good MP.
    Kellner had a good line earlier in response to Clegg having a good campaign, which I think applies to some degree to some good MPs going down. Basically, 'You expect there to be some connection between a good campaign/MP and the end result?'
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    Broxtowe hold
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    GOODBYE ALEX
  • dmc82
    dmc82 Posts: 27
    CON GAIN GORDON
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    Bye Bye Eck !!!!
  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Salmond gone!!! *dances*
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    Goodbye Salmond.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    RochdalePioneers said:

    May is toast even if the DUP prop her up. How she is supposed to negotiate a Brexit deal from a position of strength is genuinely absurd. Who replaces her...? BoJo surely not. Rudd if she clings on?

    Agreed. I don't see how she can continue.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    The working class are more Tory than ever, Mansfield is the proof of that pudding.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    TORIES GAIN GORDON, SALMOND OUT.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    Paristonda said:

    BBC forecast reduced further for cons - 318 con, 267 lab, 32 snp, 11 LD

    Eh? Isn't that what it's been for the last hour?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    dmc82 said:

    CON GAIN GORDON

    yay!
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    At least 13 SCons. Salmond put, yippee!
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    holy motherfucking shit - Salmond gone!
  • llef
    llef Posts: 301
    3rd recount in ceredigion
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    YAY SCon gain Gordon!
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    portilllo moment?
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,310
    Soubry hold
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    ALEX SALMOND!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Chameleon said:

    At least 13 SCons. Salmond put, yippee!

    The SCON surge has *actually happened*!
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    jonny83 said:

    That social care policy was a real killer...

    Amusingly, if they squeak a majority, they have a mandate for that policy. Though I doubt they could whip the votes for it.
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    FUCK YOU SALMOND!
  • OchEye
    OchEye Posts: 1,469
    Salmond gone!
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    AndyJS said:

    TORIES GAIN GORDON, SALMOND OUT.

    Ahaha oh my days
  • Ave_it
    Ave_it Posts: 2,411
    Salmond

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    A little bit of joy tonight!

    Goodnight all - especially to our DUP friends :lol:
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    May is 100% gone. She's easily in her last 24 hours as leader.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    Were you up for Alex Salmond?

    Hell yes :smiley:
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    Scottish nationalism will be back. Temporary setback.

    Anna Soubry back. Yuck.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Paristonda said:

    BBC forecast reduced further for cons - 318 con, 267 lab, 32 snp, 11 LD

    I think the LD result is one short, as the LDs will hold O&S and are (apparently) a few hundred ahead in Fife NE.
  • AlastairMeeks
    AlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Even as a hard right Brexit proves to be a seat-losing proposition, its proponents still find time to mourn the re-election of precisely the type of sparky centrist who could help them put together a new proposition.
  • RobinWiggs
    RobinWiggs Posts: 621
    Salmond wins me ££££. My best ever political bet.

    Wonderful.
  • TravelJunkie
    TravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Tory vote down by 90,000 votes to labour in Scotland yet more MPs.

    5 years of Tory rule.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Con hold Broxtowe by 863 votes.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    No more Scottish panda jokes from Salmond.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Look at all that blue in scotland. So beautiful.
  • jonny83
    jonny83 Posts: 1,273
    Ruth stopping a Labour coalition of chaos.
  • SimonStClare
    SimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    AndyJS said:

    TORIES GAIN GORDON, SALMOND OUT.

    Yeh - Nicola just took another hell of a battering, - IndieRef2 is a dead duck.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    YES!!!
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    SNP came through the middle in Edin SW. It'll fall next election.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    I don't think the Tories need the DUP.
  • JosiasJessop
    JosiasJessop Posts: 46,251
    Salmond goes.

    Thank ****.
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Skinner 51.9
    Con 40.6
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    TravelJunkie said:

    Tories will get majority. They just hold on effecient vote in fptp system.

    No we won't. There aren't enough gains left
  • alex.
    alex. Posts: 4,658
    AndyJS said:

    Con hold Broxtowe by 863 votes.

    But Nick said the first count had a difference of 3!!! That's a big cock up.
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    DavidL said:

    GOODBYE ALEX

    It's not all bad news!

    Good speech from winning Tory, paying tribute to Salmond.
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    AndyJS said:

    Con hold Broxtowe by 863 votes.

    Excellent.

    Is the route to a majority still there???
  • llef
    llef Posts: 301
    very close in preseli pembroke - recounting the bundles
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Maths Fail on previous thread.

    CON WILL EASILY HAVE A MAJORITY IN ENGLAND & WALES

    BY MILES
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,076
    Eck defeated in Gordon
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    It is fascinating that the Scottish people have actually kept the Tories in power,
  • llef
    llef Posts: 301
    preseli is stephen crabbe consitutneyc
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Paristonda said:

    portilllo moment?


    SKY News has just referred to it as such.....
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    The Conservatives are doing crap in cities everywhere.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    AndreaParma_82 said:

    Skinner 51.9
    Con 40.6

    Blimey thats an excellent effort by the blues. North East Derbyshire to come...
  • JosiasJessop
    JosiasJessop Posts: 46,251
    SimonStClare said:

    AndyJS said:

    TORIES GAIN GORDON, SALMOND OUT.

    Yeh - Nicola just took another hell of a battering, - IndieRef2 is a dead duck.
    A butter slather in a shit sandwich,
  • spudgfsh
    spudgfsh Posts: 1,568
    SNP have lost all their major leaders
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    I was once again wrong - no slim tory majority. Minority propped up by DUP at best for tories.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    How close was Don Valley ?
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