If Ruth Davidson isn't being urgently found a safe seat then something is wrong.
I'm just about avoiding blubbering. NI is totally polarised. The middle ground is a no man's land.
Is the UUP long-term dead, at least in Westminster terms? Once the situation becomes polarised like that, it's very hard to stage a comeback because of the risk of "the other side" sneaking in.
What do you think is the future for the more liberal brand of unionism in NI ? Is the best chance that the DUP becomes a bigger tent, with a more liberal wing? That at some point the DUP hits a scandal and the UUP resurrects itself? Can't see there being a new unionist party to replace the UUP, been some comedy value in previous attempts. Or can you not see a path at all?
1) May backing Fox hunting 2) Dementia tax and pretending you hadn't u-turned 3) Theresa May failing the Turing Test
Plus Osborne failing to balance the books by 2015, which enabled Corbyn to run on an anti austerity ticket
Would they have been elected in 2015 if they had stuck to their 2010 plans? I'd like to have found out, but there was a reason they slowed, and part of that was they couldn't get their own people to back anything harder.
If the books were balanced probably or at least with LD and DUP confidence and supply
Just back from the count in Perth and NP. The result here although v close is looking more an anomaly compared to the rest of the Con vs SNP battles in Scotland. The loss of 4 seats for the Nats in the NE is big surprise
And there are many, many people up and down the land incredulous that 43% voted for Theresa May and a Tory party that has wrought viciousness on all but the rich for the last seven years. Today was richly deserved.
Tories will be second place in Scotland in terms of votes - they're level pegging with Labour on 28.1%, and there are two almost certain Conservative seats left out of five. Labour are highly unlikely to have any significant vote in any of the remaining seats.
Labour now officially exceeded their 2015 seats total.
All the Europhobes have done is make Corbyn a God.
Why are you being so rude to everyone tonight?
Do you realise how you're coming across?
As I've insinuated tonight, is that really somewhere you want to go? Someone who retracted a job offer I'd never asked for? To your credit, you privately apologised profusely for that.
You need to consider the position of 'ordinary' people. You are too EU obsessed. Much more is in the purview of the UK's parliament than in the EU's, and 'ordinary' people realise that.
A passing thought - the suggestion that people like me have been making that the polls had overcompensated for lower Labour turnout is being borne out. Essentially ICM and those like them have been fighting the last war. If people say they're going to vote, maybe we should start believing them...
If Ruth Davidson isn't being urgently found a safe seat then something is wrong.
I'm just about avoiding blubbering. NI is totally polarised. The middle ground is a no man's land.
Is the UUP long-term dead, at least in Westminster terms? Once the situation becomes polarised like that, it's very hard to stage a comeback because of the risk of "the other side" sneaking in.
What do you think is the future for the more liberal brand of unionism in NI ? Is the best chance that the DUP becomes a bigger tent, with a more liberal wing? That at some point the DUP hits a scandal and the UUP resurrects itself? Can't see there being a new unionist party to replace the UUP, been some comedy value in previous attempts. Or can you not see a path at all?
I'm too tired and emotional (not a euphemism in this case) to think about it. Right now, I'm considering moving to Australia.
We have a lot of thinking to do. I can't see a long term future for Unionism if it is dependent on the DUP entirely. They will never win over enough Catholic or non religious people to keep the Union safe. We are effectively admitting that the Union will survive until the current primary school kids can vote.
I'll say it right now: if you thought May wasn't cut out to be PM, just wait until you see Boris.
Anyone but Boris. Hammond, Rudd, Hunt .. Ideally Davidson.
Or, and TSE might use the banhammer on me for saying this, but I'd support David Davis as temporary caretaker leader up until the conclusion of the A50 negotiations.
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As has been noted below, Aaron had to deal with fox hunting in the campaign when he should have been dealing with other stuff
What do you think is the future for the more liberal brand of unionism in NI ? Is the best chance that the DUP becomes a bigger tent, with a more liberal wing? That at some point the DUP hits a scandal and the UUP resurrects itself? Can't see there being a new unionist party to replace the UUP, been some comedy value in previous attempts. Or can you not see a path at all?
Pity, I always liked Mr Salmond.
And people don't understand shit about fox hunting. It's a vocal minority.
So Hallam gets Labour for the first time ever and adjacent NED goes Con for the first time ever.
Killamarsh is now more Conservative than Dore.
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You need to consider the position of 'ordinary' people. You are too EU obsessed. Much more is in the purview of the UK's parliament than in the EU's, and 'ordinary' people realise that.
Hence this result. You should have listened.
But at least you can escape abroad. I cannot.
Tories hold Harrow East.
We have a lot of thinking to do. I can't see a long term future for Unionism if it is dependent on the DUP entirely. They will never win over enough Catholic or non religious people to keep the Union safe. We are effectively admitting that the Union will survive until the current primary school kids can vote.
Still think they could squeak a majority.
She will be prime minister
Anyone but Boris. Hammond, Rudd, Hunt .. Ideally Davidson.
Or, and TSE might use the banhammer on me for saying this, but I'd support David Davis as temporary caretaker leader up until the conclusion of the A50 negotiations.
2 years. Further election.