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WowScott_P said:@PolhomeEditor: Confirmed: Philip Davies has lost to Labour in Shipley #GE2017
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Hopeful for Wolverhampton SW0
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Kingswood - suburb of Bristol looking dicey for Cons0
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The LD campaign was aimed at SW London, now SW England.kle4 said:
Of course not, LD voters like me in the SW switched to CON! About the only ones who have.Paristonda said:
LD gains not coming from the SW then!Chameleon said:Massive increased majority in Yeovil.
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Corbyn PM is fanciful now0
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Midlands better than average for Conservatives. As it was expected.0
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Tories doing well in West Midlands not over yet0
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She never looked comfortable over Grammar schools. They were forced on Greening, but can now be jettisoned.rkrkrk said:
Yes I think she is a good MP and competent minister.Bobajob_PB said:
I like Justine and didn't want her to lose her seat.JonathanD said:Well done Greening. At least now you can tell May to get lost with her grammar school nonsense
Congratulations to her for hanging on.0 -
LOL. What a poor attempt to absolve yourself.MaxPB said:
Not really, it was May and her team who ran this shit campaign and who came out with these shit policies, but also who backed hard Brexit to win UKIP votes while others said go for centrist Brexit to win votes in the centre. She and her team take the blame for this failure.JosiasJessop said:
This is all the fault of Brexiters. It was totally avoidable.MaxPB said:
Our campaign completely failed to drag Labour into the same Hard Brexit box as us. Labour became an easy choice for remain voters and even soft Brexit UKIP/Tory Leavers voters.TheScreamingEagles said:My Lib Dem friend in Sheffield Hallam says Clegg's a gonner.
Odd UKIP to Lab swing!
The campaign was just horrible.
Still, at least you're away from it all, eh?
You are insulated from this, and you've already pissed off. Some of us are not as lucky.
One thing we've learnt from all this is that some 'Conservative's are not 'conservative'.0 -
Tories hold Erewash, doing well in the Midlands.0
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Losing Shipley is just bizarre. What were the issues there? Surely not hard Brexit?0
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Who will be chief fillabusterer now?Scott_P said:@PolhomeEditor: Confirmed: Philip Davies has lost to Labour in Shipley #GE2017
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Boris won London in 2008 and 2012...FrancisUrquhart said:Boris surely can't be Tory leader. If the Tories are getting smashed in London because of Brexit, electing the unofficial mascot of the Leave campaign ain't going to fly.
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What about Wolverhampton NE just? Not a lot of Labour Tory swing thereAndreaParma_82 said:Midlands better than average for Conservatives. As it was expected.
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Lots of things can be jettisonedfoxinsoxuk said:
She never looked comfortable over Grammar schools. They were forced on Greening, but can now be jettisoned.rkrkrk said:
Yes I think she is a good MP and competent minister.Bobajob_PB said:
I like Justine and didn't want her to lose her seat.JonathanD said:Well done Greening. At least now you can tell May to get lost with her grammar school nonsense
Congratulations to her for hanging on.
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Wasn't the north going to come to Con's rescue?Scott_P said:@PolhomeEditor: Confirmed: Philip Davies has lost to Labour in Shipley #GE2017
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Many of us did.Casino_Royale said:
I said that.Dougie said:I wonder if Alastair Meeks had it right a few weeks ago. Tory manifesto should have been Brexit plus £350 million per week for the NHS, and not much else.
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Please God could IDS be out too?0
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Exit poll has Con on 314 - DUP gets them a passable budget. If they underperform that exit poll(and they appear to be in Wales), how do they pass one? No one else will deal with them.Jason said:
I think you've lost your marbles, Kle. I thought you were one of the sensible ones here.kle4 said:
You said it wouldn't get to this point in the first place (as did I), soI think I'll go with what I see of the trend- Wales is underperforming for Con on the exit poll, safe seats are being turned into marginals in England, and while they'll hold some, they're losing a whole bunch more, and too many for SCON to make up for. Lab have allies in the SNP and LDs (or at least willing to deal), Con have no one to deal with but SUP.Jason said:Come on guys. We are a very long way indeed from Corbyn PM. The maths just aren't there for Labour.
Thus, Corbyn PM - May won't be able to pass a budget.
Corbyn doesn't need most seats to be able to command a majority in the commons.0 -
Davies has lost a 10k majority...0
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Cons hold Warwick North, btw.0
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results are all over the place. no national swing at all is there.0
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Assuming she can cobble together a government Theresa needs to stay until Ruth enters the Commons. She's a born winner.0
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Great result.waitingfortonight said:Angus a bloody good result, SNP since 1987.
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Calm down JJ, you're getting a bit personal...JosiasJessop said:
LOL. What a poor attempt to absolve yourself.MaxPB said:
Not really, it was May and her team who ran this shit campaign and who came out with these shit policies, but also who backed hard Brexit to win UKIP votes while others said go for centrist Brexit to win votes in the centre. She and her team take the blame for this failure.JosiasJessop said:
This is all the fault of Brexiters. It was totally avoidable.MaxPB said:
Our campaign completely failed to drag Labour into the same Hard Brexit box as us. Labour became an easy choice for remain voters and even soft Brexit UKIP/Tory Leavers voters.TheScreamingEagles said:My Lib Dem friend in Sheffield Hallam says Clegg's a gonner.
Odd UKIP to Lab swing!
The campaign was just horrible.
Still, at least you're away from it all, eh?
You are insulated from this, and you've already pissed off. Some of us are not as lucky.
One thing we've learnt from all this is that some 'Conservative's are not 'conservative'.0 -
The Cry Wolf British General Election of 2017.Pulpstar said:Cry wolf.
Ed Miliband the Labour leader in 2015 had a broad range of policies that were not a million miles off of what Theresa May has in her SDP-Tory hybrid manifesto to bring onboard working class Labour voters.
The press went after him as they have with every Labour leader forever (Except Blair) - Red Ed, mocking him for the way he ate, his late father being disgustingly attacked as a danger to the country and somehow this impacting on Miliband's standing himself. I also remember the Alex Salmond posters, not the ones portraying Ed in his pocket, but one in Broxtowe where he was shown as a burglar. He of course is nothing of the sort, and the advert for me crossed the line - however as the ASA can't regulate political advertising it could go through.
SNIP
But there is a problem. The buckets of slime that were poured over Ed Miliband's head in 2015 are being chucked by the same news outlets again at Corbyn. It looks like the same monstering even though the two crimes they commit are very different - one couldn't quite eat a bacon sandwich correctly, the other finds Hezbollah a respectable organisation.
The right wing press just may have cried wolf one too many times, and perhaps the public are dismissing the warnings because of this.
Corbyn I believe will stay on even with defeat, particularly if Ed Miliband's vote total is increased (I think this will be the case now), and the movement will grow and grow. The redtops - who proclaimed our High Court judges "Enemies of the people" will have no effect on him going forward. In fact they just make his appeal greater.
You got it @Pulpstar.0 -
Erewash Tory vote up 9.9% labour less.0
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And a policy that would confiscate people's property.david_herdson said:0 -
110 on target list. Granted some easier ones were held.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
It couldn't happen to a nicer person. Philip Davies....glad to see the back of him. Just sad to see Zac win in Richmond, no counting for taste there.0
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Labour wins Hartlepool
West Bromwich West: Lab +4.7 Con +15.8. Majority cut to 12/13%0 -
This election obviously puts a huge question mark over Brexit.
The LibDem option of mapping out a Brexit plan, and then putting it to a new vote in a referendum, with status quo as the alternative, now looks the most sensible way out of the impasse.0 -
HurrahTheScreamingEagles said:Mhairi Black holds on
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Why? This was NOT a vote against having a few more grammar schools, it was a vote against continued austerity and for soft Brexit in Remain areasfoxinsoxuk said:
She never looked comfortable over Grammar schools. They were forced on Greening, but can now be jettisoned.rkrkrk said:
Yes I think she is a good MP and competent minister.Bobajob_PB said:
I like Justine and didn't want her to lose her seat.JonathanD said:Well done Greening. At least now you can tell May to get lost with her grammar school nonsense
Congratulations to her for hanging on.0 -
The guy is a total cock? The number of times he has deliberately run out bills on sensitive issues.Typo said:Losing Shipley is just bizarre. What were the issues there? Surely not hard Brexit?
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Dementia tax, lots of expensive houses there.Typo said:Losing Shipley is just bizarre. What were the issues there? Surely not hard Brexit?
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How many more times!Typo said:Losing Shipley is just bizarre. What were the issues there? Surely not hard Brexit?
May said she'd take the WFA allowance of her own voters while continuing to give it to Scotland and she was also threatening to steal people's homes if they got Dementia!
It's not difficult...0 -
Remember that the Women's Equality party campaigned very hard against him.kle4 said:
110 on target list.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Though the Tories have held Putney and Richmond ParkGIN1138 said:
Wasn't the north going to come to Con's rescue?Scott_P said:@PolhomeEditor: Confirmed: Philip Davies has lost to Labour in Shipley #GE2017
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@PaulBrandITV: CONFIRMED: Labour take Stockton South. James Wharton, international development minister and former northern powerhouse min, is OUT.0
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And East Midlands: Erewash, next door to Broxtowe.TravelJunkie said:Tories doing well in West Midlands not over yet
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It's Davies. The specific campaign against his perceived dinosaur social viewsTheScreamingEagles said:
Dementia tax, lots of expensive houses there.Typo said:Losing Shipley is just bizarre. What were the issues there? Surely not hard Brexit?
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Con hold Erewash with increased majority0
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Corbyn led Labour gaining Finchley?0
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Just spoke to Tory activist in North West
Very grim, Labour holding marginals comfortably. Livid about May and manifesto.0 -
Lucian_Fletcher said:
Assuming she can cobble together a government Theresa needs to stay until Ruth enters the Commons. She's a born winner.
Nah, let her finish off her job in Scotland.0 -
How does an arch Brexiteer lose a 10k seat in a Brexit seat?FrancisUrquhart said:Davies has lost a 10k majority...
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ANGUS!!!!
SCon riding to the rescue?0 -
Agreed, Bobajob.Bobajob_PB said:
The Cry Wolf British General Election of 2017.Pulpstar said:Cry wolf.
Ed Miliband the Labour leader in 2015 had a broad range of policies that were not a million miles off of what Theresa May has in her SDP-Tory hybrid manifesto to bring onboard working class Labour voters.
The press went after him as they have with every Labour leader forever (Except Blair) - Red Ed, mocking him for the way he ate, his late father being disgustingly attacked as a danger to the country and somehow this impacting on Miliband's standing himself. I also remember the Alex Salmond posters, not the ones portraying Ed in his pocket, but one in Broxtowe where he was shown as a burglar. He of course is nothing of the sort, and the advert for me crossed the line - however as the ASA can't regulate political advertising it could go through.
SNIP
But there is a problem. The buckets of slime that were poured over Ed Miliband's head in 2015 are being chucked by the same news outlets again at Corbyn. It looks like the same monstering even though the two crimes they commit are very different - one couldn't quite eat a bacon sandwich correctly, the other finds Hezbollah a respectable organisation.
The right wing press just may have cried wolf one too many times, and perhaps the public are dismissing the warnings because of this.
Corbyn I believe will stay on even with defeat, particularly if Ed Miliband's vote total is increased (I think this will be the case now), and the movement will grow and grow. The redtops - who proclaimed our High Court judges "Enemies of the people" will have no effect on him going forward. In fact they just make his appeal greater.
You got it @Pulpstar.0 -
Sexism issues I think.kle4 said:
110 on target list. Granted some easier ones were held.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
16% swing from SNP to Tories in Angus0
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How many could Con get in Scotland?0
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Labour GAIN Shipley.
WTF?
The Tories were 1-50 yesterday to hold the seat.
I know, because I looked the bet up (and didn't back the bloody thing).0 -
The social care policy was a shocker that I suspect has forced a lot of pensioners to not vote.david_herdson said:
But what might be bigger was there was nothing good economically in that manifesto. I mean where was business this election? They are going to be fucked by this corporation tax under Labour and not a peep from them. Bizarre.
Worst tory manifesto I have ever read.0 -
I don't see how that is happening?Scott_P said:twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/872980653184356352
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Maybe there is a God?FrancisUrquhart said:Davies has lost a 10k majority...
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That really is astonishing.FrancisUrquhart said:Davies has lost a 10k majority...
Lots of rich, old people with big houses though.
David Herdson's former location.
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Bottle of Ridge finished... on to the Springbank0
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Hartlepool Labour hold
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But how would we get to that, as it isn't Labour's plan? Their plan is to negotiate and then have a 'meaningful vote' in the commonsIanB2 said:This election obviously puts a huge question mark over Brexit.
The LibDem option of mapping out a Brexit plan, and then putting it to a new vote in a referendum, with status quo as the alternative, now looks the most sensible way out of the impasse.
Piling up votes inthe wrong places.PaulM said:Just spoke to Tory activist in North West
Very grim, Labour holding marginals comfortably. Livid about May and manifesto.0 -
Tories 19% behind in Hartlepool0
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Warwickshire North Conservative hold0
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Labour GAIN Stockton South.
May is gone.0 -
Have you never seen him in the HoC?alex. said:
How does an arch Brexiteer lose a 10k seat in a Brexit seat?FrancisUrquhart said:Davies has lost a 10k majority...
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Scott_P said:
@PolhomeEditor: Confirmed: Philip Davies has lost to Labour in Shipley #GE2017
Being a twat.Typo said:Losing Shipley is just bizarre. What were the issues there? Surely not hard Brexit?
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Surprised he didn't make RCS's List of Tories He Wouldn't Vote For.FrancisUrquhart said:
The guy is a total cock? The number of times he has deliberately run out bills on sensitive issues.Typo said:Losing Shipley is just bizarre. What were the issues there? Surely not hard Brexit?
I think there are plenty of women, modernising Conservatives who will be glad he's not in Parliament anymore. And certainly not making trouble on the equalities committee..0 -
How is any of this happening?FrancisUrquhart said:
I don't see how that is happening?Scott_P said:twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/872980653184356352
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Tories doing well in the Midlands.AndreaParma_82 said:Con hold Erewash with increased majority
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Have you read the posts against me in the past?Mortimer said:
Calm down JJ, you're getting a bit personal...JosiasJessop said:
LOL. What a poor attempt to absolve yourself.MaxPB said:
Not really, it was May and her team who ran this shit campaign and who came out with these shit policies, but also who backed hard Brexit to win UKIP votes while others said go for centrist Brexit to win votes in the centre. She and her team take the blame for this failure.JosiasJessop said:
This is all the fault of Brexiters. It was totally avoidable.MaxPB said:
Our campaign completely failed to drag Labour into the same Hard Brexit box as us. Labour became an easy choice for remain voters and even soft Brexit UKIP/Tory Leavers voters.TheScreamingEagles said:My Lib Dem friend in Sheffield Hallam says Clegg's a gonner.
Odd UKIP to Lab swing!
The campaign was just horrible.
Still, at least you're away from it all, eh?
You are insulated from this, and you've already pissed off. Some of us are not as lucky.
One thing we've learnt from all this is that some 'Conservative's are not 'conservative'.
The hardcore so-called 'conservative' leavers have reaped what they have sowed.
I am a swing voter. I am the sort of person Conservatives should have been going for. But they sent me to the Lib Dems for this election.
But the EU Trumped everything,0 -
Carmarthen East Plaid hold0
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Listening to George Osborne talking on TV is exactly like reading TSE on here.
Uncanny.0 -
Except there is a wolf.The_Apocalypse said:
Agreed, Bobajob.Bobajob_PB said:
The Cry Wolf British General Election of 2017.Pulpstar said:Cry wolf.
Ed Miliband the Labour leader in 2015 had a broad range of policies that were not a million miles off of what Theresa May has in her SDP-Tory hybrid manifesto to bring onboard working class Labour voters.
The press went after him as they have with every Labour leader forever (Except Blair) - Red Ed, mocking him for the way he ate, his late father being disgustingly attacked as a danger to the country and somehow this impacting on Miliband's standing himself. I also remember the Alex Salmond posters, not the ones portraying Ed in his pocket, but one in Broxtowe where he was shown as a burglar. He of course is nothing of the sort, and the advert for me crossed the line - however as the ASA can't regulate political advertising it could go through.
SNIP
But there is a problem. The buckets of slime that were poured over Ed Miliband's head in 2015 are being chucked by the same news outlets again at Corbyn. It looks like the same monstering even though the two crimes they commit are very different - one couldn't quite eat a bacon sandwich correctly, the other finds Hezbollah a respectable organisation.
The right wing press just may have cried wolf one too many times, and perhaps the public are dismissing the warnings because of this.
Corbyn I believe will stay on even with defeat, particularly if Ed Miliband's vote total is increased (I think this will be the case now), and the movement will grow and grow. The redtops - who proclaimed our High Court judges "Enemies of the people" will have no effect on him going forward. In fact they just make his appeal greater.
You got it @Pulpstar.0 -
Fareham Conservative hold0
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Wouldn't want to be a lab candidate in Midlands still.0
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Davies shouldn't form part of the wider view, there was a vicious campaign against him by the Women's equality party among others based on the fact that he's sexist prick.0
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Good.AndyJS said:
Tories doing well in the Midlands.AndreaParma_82 said:Con hold Erewash with increased majority
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Labour gaining seats and vote share in England is an absolute disaster for the SNP.0
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Osborne really bigging up Ruth, saying her brand of Conservativism very different from May.0
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It is indeed. Bloody hell.another_richard said:
That really is astonishing.FrancisUrquhart said:Davies has lost a 10k majority...
Lots of rich, old people with big houses though.
David Herdson's former location.0 -
just heard that tories have held erewash0
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This Labour campaign is possibly the best campaign in the history of British democracy.
It is ruthlessly efficient.
How the fuck have the Tories lost Shipley?0 -
It provides a route to what most Labour MPs want, underpinned by the legitimacy of a new referendum.kle4 said:
But how would we get to that, as it isn't Labour's plan? Their plan is to negotiate and then have a 'meaningful vote' in the commonsIanB2 said:This election obviously puts a huge question mark over Brexit.
The LibDem option of mapping out a Brexit plan, and then putting it to a new vote in a referendum, with status quo as the alternative, now looks the most sensible way out of the impasse.
Piling up votes inthe wrong places.PaulM said:Just spoke to Tory activist in North West
Very grim, Labour holding marginals comfortably. Livid about May and manifesto.
Do the Labour plan first. Once you have the deal and the Commons vote, then do the LibDem plan.0 -
Osborne saying there is no majority in the HoC for most of Brexit.0
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Majority not happening. 314 is not far short of best case.Mortimer said:0 -
Con Maj is 5.1
Surely not?0 -
Farage on BBC: I'm coming back0
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Farage returns - "absolutely no choice" on BBC10
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I've backed Aldershot and South West Surrey at very short odds.Bobajob_PB said:Labour GAIN Shipley.
WTF?
The Tories were 1-50 yesterday to hold the seat.
I know, because I looked the bet up (and didn't back the bloody thing).
Fuck me if there is an anti-Hunt rebellion.............0 -
plaid narrowly hold arfon over labour
and hold carmarthen comfortably over labour0 -
Hartlepool
Lab 52.5
Con 34.2
UKIP 11.50
