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  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,106
    Kellner says that this is the end of the Independent referendum
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,317
    Those Northern ex Labour voters eh...
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Chris Bryant 64.1%
    Plaid 22.3
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Con haven't gained BOOTLE.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Labour hold Great Grimsby
  • TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Lab hold great Grimsby that's a big hold tough environment.
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    Bootle LAB hold. Maybe next time (i.e. the autumn)
  • SeanT said:

    I must say I'm enjoying this enormously.

    Me too.

    Bizarrely.
    Well you and Alastair are wealthy enoiught to enjoy it,

    Tomorrow morning i have to go to work and start to plan for the fall out of this and work out who satys and who goes.

    I am not trolling

    This is very real
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,288
    glw said:

    SeanT said:

    I now see a 2nd referendum as quite likely.

    It's all but inevitable I think. Can't govern without some sort of plan, and can't ignore the referendum. So ask again.
    It's also the only way out of Labour's predicament of having most MPs ardent Remainers but with Corbyn as leader. Second referendum trumps the first.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,972

    Roger said:

    Scott_P said:

    @isaby: Sorry to see long-standing Brexiteer David Nuttall lose Bury North, despite the lack of a UKIP candidate this time

    Brexit is fucked.

    Hallelujah!
    No. It's terrible for the UK. Some of us don't have foreign boltholes to escape to. :(

    A lesson from this: ignore people who are abroad, or can escape abroad. They are insulated from their decisions.

    Real people are not.
    Agree.

  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062

    The right wing press has been proved impotent. It is emasculated. That is huge. May followed the Mail and the Sun. A mistake.

    Bad night for the right wing press Australian election gurus Brexit UKIP ..........it's like the scene in the godfather when Michael dispatches all his enemies in one go
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Labour gain Midlothian from SNP
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,106
    Ave_it said:

    Phew Pendle and Amber Valley - still points to CON largest party-

    BBC upped to 322 seats
  • Grimsby result not that great considering Lab majority of only 714 in 2010
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,317

    HYUFD said:

    Listening to George Osborne talking on TV is exactly like reading TSE on here.

    Uncanny.

    We are the voices of general election winning policies.

    We are the voices of lower taxation.

    We are the voices of social liberalism.
    One small silver lining, might we get our party back a little....to coin a phrase.
    Hopefully.

    I'm going flail the PBers/Tories that denied the awesomeness of Dave and George.
    If George Osborne had managed to balance the books as he promised by 2015 we would not have had 2 extra years of austerity which Corbyn has clearly mobilised leftwing voters against tonight (including some who voted UKIP in 2015)
    That's where my thinking is taking me.

    It would have been better to cut deeper, faster and quicker and get it over with. People can't take the prospect of 'the pain' never ending.

    Of course, that would have made it far harder for Dave to win against Ed Miliband in GE2015.
    We wouldn't have won a majority in 2015. No the issue is Theresa May not offering any kind of positive vision for the country.
  • atia2atia2 Posts: 207
    It was Facebook and Twitter wot won it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,249

    BBC forecast 322/261/32/13

    Phew. Con govt.

    I wouldn't trust the BBC forecasts too much.

    Unless it's direct from the mouth of Curtice.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    Tories heading towards a tiny majority.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,381
    Comrades gain Midlothian
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,736
    NEW THREAD
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,682

    HYUFD said:

    Listening to George Osborne talking on TV is exactly like reading TSE on here.

    Uncanny.

    We are the voices of general election winning policies.

    We are the voices of lower taxation.

    We are the voices of social liberalism.
    One small silver lining, might we get our party back a little....to coin a phrase.
    Hopefully.

    I'm going flail the PBers/Tories that denied the awesomeness of Dave and George.
    If George Osborne had managed to balance the books as he promised by 2015 we would not have had 2 extra years of austerity which Corbyn has clearly mobilised leftwing voters against tonight (including some who voted UKIP in 2015)
    That's where my thinking is taking me.

    It would have been better to cut deeper, faster and quicker and get it over with. People can't take the prospect of 'the pain' never ending.

    Of course, that would have made it far harder for Dave to win against Ed Miliband in GE2015.
    Indeed but Cameron would still likely have had a Tory LD deal even if not quite a majority
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Updated exit poll estimate now 322.

    What a mess!
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237
    hunchman said:

    Why do Sky make such a big thing of Ken Clarke - horrid man

    If the stupid Tory members had elected Clarke rather than the idiot IDS then we'd probably be looking at a 4th term Tory win by now, with me one of their supporters.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,317

    Kellner says that this is the end of the Independent referendum

    Yeah that's probably true. It has been for a while tbh.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,106

    BBC forecast 322/261/32/13

    Phew. Con govt.

    I wouldn't trust the BBC forecasts too much.

    Unless it's direct from the mouth of Curtice.
    It is 322 - 261 just now
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    Tories gain Ochil. Scotland is saving the Tory arse.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,924
    Ave_it said:

    Phew Pendle and Amber Valley - still points to CON largest party-

    Conservatives doing better in their constituencies with cheap houses.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,930

    Updated exit poll estimate now 322.

    What a mess!

    And you supported the Conservatives regardless?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    edited June 2017
    The off-shore billionaires who own the Times, Telegraph, Mail, Sun, Express no longer call the shots.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,106
    Not only Teresa but Nicola on the line here
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,249

    Updated exit poll estimate now 322.

    What a mess!

    And you supported the Conservatives regardless?
    Log off mate. You're being a bit of a dick tonight.

    Come back in the morning when you've sobered up.
  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    FWIW I don't think the next PM can be Boris - either the Tories can form a government (probably multitudes + unionists) in which case May has to do it, because there's no time to have a leadership election. If the result is that bad, she may have to effectively do it as caretaker, having agreed to step down after a leadership election. (And then 'unelected' PM heading a minority government - hard to see that working). Or they can't form a government and it's Corbyn.

    The only scenario where it can be anyone else is surely a) May resigns tomorrow and a caretaker forms a Tory-led admin pending leadership election. Is that possible? Or b) new election fought by May's successor if no government is possible.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Southport!!!!!!!!!!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    Polruan said:

    FWIW I don't think the next PM can be Boris - either the Tories can form a government (probably multitudes + unionists) in which case May has to do it, because there's no time to have a leadership election. If the result is that bad, she may have to effectively do it as caretaker, having agreed to step down after a leadership election. (And then 'unelected' PM heading a minority government - hard to see that working). Or they can't form a government and it's Corbyn.

    The only scenario where it can be anyone else is surely a) May resigns tomorrow and a caretaker forms a Tory-led admin pending leadership election. Is that possible? Or b) new election fought by May's successor if no government is possible.

    COALITION OF CHAOS
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062
    Amber Rudd was one of the better ones as was Anna Soubry. Why not Boris and Gove and Hoey?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,533
    This is Ted Heath redux:

    "Who governs Britain?"

    Not you mate.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    Roger said:

    Amber Rudd was one of the better ones as was Anna Soubry. Why not Boris and Gove and Hoey?

    has she lost?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,106
    Sky predicting 324 - 326 majority
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    CON 324 call on Sky? I'd take that!!!!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    Bugger TMICIPM
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Sky: Could be Con 324-326.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Is Boris in trouble????!
  • midwintermidwinter Posts: 1,112

    Not only Teresa but Nicola on the line here

    May is beyond redemption
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    That's handy in Antrim S
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,930

    Updated exit poll estimate now 322.

    What a mess!

    And you supported the Conservatives regardless?
    Log off mate. You're being a bit of a dick tonight.

    Come back in the morning when you've sobered up.
    And the same to you. Read what I've typed: I'm being fair.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215

    Sky predicting 324 - 326 majority

    Its going to be 330. I told you 4.5 hours ago now.
  • BigIanBigIan Posts: 198
    Ruthie, I want to have your babies.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,930
    Things that annoy me: Margaret Beckett should learn the meaning of 'infinitely'.
  • wills66wills66 Posts: 103
    As expected. Mercer's a good MP, would be a great shame to see him going after only 2 years.

    WillS
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Foyle - I don't like that but it might help us...
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 2,052
    CNN expert says Tories will end up closer to 300 than to 326.

    !

    Not buying it though.
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    edited June 2017
    Sky: Con 308-328. JCICINPM...probably...
  • DadgeDadge Posts: 2,052
    DavidL said:

    Sky predicting 324 - 326 majority

    Its going to be 330. I told you 4.5 hours ago now.
    So did I. Exit poll error quite predictable in that respect.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    East Renfrewshire Tory win. God you southerners really irritate me sometimes.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    I think my klaxon has now broken. Could Amazon help at this point?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    Jo Swinton back. Fantastic.
  • dmc82dmc82 Posts: 27
    LD Gain east Dunbartonshire
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    RECOUNT in Peterborough
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Sheffield Hallam - Nick Clegg out.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    Clegg gone.
  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    hallam massive financial gain for camel, clegg got the hump
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    Don Valley LAB HOLD
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    Amber Rudd is officially an ex MP
  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    upset for aaron
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    WHat happened to Boris?
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Not a good night to give up sniffing glue.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    lab gain peterboro
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    RESULT: Ruth George (LAB) has won High Peak with 49.7% of the vote
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,755

    RESULT: Ruth George (LAB) has won High Peak with 49.7% of the vote

    Yaa
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Stuart Jackson out in Peterborough.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    Vince bloody Cable elected. Damn.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,889
    edited June 2017
    Extraordinary for Dimbleby to speculate on May resigning based on her body language.

    I was wondering the same. But for the BBC to say it!
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,889
    Commiserations to Aaron Bell/Tissue Price.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    LAB GAIN BEDFORD
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Labour hold all 4 Bristol Seats - gained Bristol NW.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    lab gain ipswich
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,761
    LAB GAIN WARWICK AND LEAMINGTON

    SO knows FA
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Lib Dems win Bath.
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