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He always looks honest. At something of a premium after Boris.SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
What is really needed is a couple of hours of power cut on Thurday evening, then when the TV and the Xboxes stop working, and they cant get online, those students might consider getting off their butts and going to voteRoger said:A letter from Emily Thornberry asking for one final push. One million young people have registered to vote for the first time. With a final pre election contribution they will be able to do a nationwide map of polling stations (I guess that's in case the 1,000,000 new voters can't find their way).
Thank God they don't do IQ tests!
Without that they will stay on line, forget to vote, and spend the rest of the night in a huge petulant strop on Snapchat and Twitter because the Tories won.0 -
Two people in the last two days have raised the election with me whilst I was chatting to them about something else entirely. One in a cricket score box and one at work
Both said more or less the same thing - no good parties to vote for this time. Got the impression the first would vote against Corbyn, the second has one child at uni and another in 6th form, said you've got to vote for your own self-interest if there's nothing else to vote for, implying one in the bag for the red team based in tuition fees despite there being clearly no general enthusiasm for Labour otherwise.
Both people I would have had down as natural tories demographically - white, middle aged men, well-ish off. But who knows.
Quite surprised and a mild about of bedwetting may occur as a result :-/0 -
Not pissing away Londoner's money on Boris' vanity projects seems like reason enough for popularity in the first year or soSeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
He's not Jeremy Corbyn and he is not Diane Abbott. You want more?SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
Assuming Labour stays in opposition, his odds of re-election in London are surely higher than 70%? Winning as a Tory in the capital is becoming harder every year; even Boris only managed it by being gifted past-his-best Ken as an opponent.SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
Weak and Wobbly Jez?Scott_P said:@JournoStephen: For a Bolshevik, Corbyn can't even overthrow the government properly. https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/871749088575979521
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You could be right. We had power cuts during the February 1974 campaign. Worked surprisingly well for Labour.AlsoIndigo said:
What is really needed is a couple of hours of power cut on Thurday evening, then when the TV and the Xboxes stop working, and they cant get online, those students might consider getting off their butts and going to voteRoger said:A letter from Emily Thornberry asking for one final push. One million young people have registered to vote for the first time. With a final pre election contribution they will be able to do a nationwide map of polling stations (I guess that's in case the 1,000,000 new voters can't find their way).
Thank God they don't do IQ tests!
Without that they will stay on line, forget to vote, and spend the rest of the night in a huge petulant strop on Snapchat and Twitter because the Tories won.0 -
You are a contributor, it's your jobAlastairMeeks said:
Fortunately for me.RobD said:
Being annoying isn't a bannable offence.View_From_Cumbria said:
As trolls go TravelJunkie seems to be trying to break new records - how about banning him on his first day ???AlsoIndigo said:
Fake News. They were ruled incompatible with (Labour's) Human Rights ActTravelJunkie said:Theresa May as Home Secretary:
-Stopped control orders.
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They might have been, but the High Court disagreed. Which bit of that is hard for you to understand.Yorkcity said:
Lord Carlille reviewer of terrorism legislation does not agree with you.States that they were justified proportional and used as a last resort.Has slammed the decision of the conservatives to abolish them.AlsoIndigo said:
Not unless we leave the ECHR, which we should, but won't.Yorkcity said:
Well they will be introduced again very shortly.AlsoIndigo said:
Quite right too. They were incompatible with the Human Rights Act and unlawful under Article 6 ECHR, not to mention opposed by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, JUSTICE and Liberty. Labour bought forth a complete horlicks of a law and tried to force it through parliament, quite a lot of Labour MPs voted against it!Yorkcity said:
May voted against them.AlsoIndigo said:
Fake News. They were ruled incompatible with (Labour's) Human Rights ActTravelJunkie said:Theresa May as Home Secretary:
-Stopped control orders.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/apr/13/humanrights.terrorism
A high court judge branded the government's system of control orders against terrorism suspects "an affront to justice" yesterday and ruled that they breached human rights laws.
If the government tries to bring forward similar laws and we are still in the ECHR, they will be struck down for the same reasons, its not that complicated.0 -
Increased knife crime is May's fault. She insisted on ending stop and search against police wishes. No love for either of them tho. There is something about him that is very untrustworthy.SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
Khan @ 70% and Trump @ 28% are BOTH buys I think.0
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He is the first Muslim Mayor in a major western city .Also the son of a bus driver . Working class lad made good .SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
Even having Liam Fox in W&L discomforted some Lib DemsEPG said:
Do leaders' visits help local candidates to win?Razedabode said:Today Corbyn is visiting 4 Labour seats in North East. The average Lab majority in the seats is 9,084, or 22.9%. Why is Labour so defensive? (Michael Cricks tweet)
Am i reading too much into this? Why would he be in these seats with 3 days to go?0 -
What a legendary campaign that was "Sadiq will thieve your jewelry".Carolus_Rex said:0 -
Londoners don't want him to do anything. He can't really anyway and apart from those "brought to you by LondonMayor" signs on the tube most people would be hard pressed to name anything he is in charge of (buses?). Which is as it should be. He was a perfectly blank canvas for London at the time.SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
I have just learnt that a fellow employee was one of those attacked and is now in a coma after surgery.
Puts all the rest in perspective.
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Seant Do you agree with the government abolishing control orders ?SeanT said:
It's enough for the first six months, I'd have thought. But eventually you have to start doing *something*Yorkcity said:
He is the first Muslim Mayor in a major western city .Also the son of a bus driver . Working class lad made good .SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
That would be Liberal Democrat peer Lord Carlille who signed off on those provisions before they were introduced?Yorkcity said:
Lord Carlille reviewer of terrorism legislation does not agree with you.States that they were justified proportional and used as a last resort.Has slammed the decision of the conservatives to abolish them.AlsoIndigo said:
Not unless we leave the ECHR, which we should, but won't.Yorkcity said:
Well they will be introduced again very shortly.AlsoIndigo said:
Quite right too. They were incompatible with the Human Rights Act and unlawful under Article 6 ECHR, not to mention opposed by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, JUSTICE and Liberty. Labour bought forth a complete horlicks of a law and tried to force it through parliament, quite a lot of Labour MPs voted against it!Yorkcity said:
May voted against them.AlsoIndigo said:
Fake News. They were ruled incompatible with (Labour's) Human Rights ActTravelJunkie said:Theresa May as Home Secretary:
-Stopped control orders.
They gave some distinctly unsavoury people a free run through our courts at enormous public expense generating negative publicity and making these sick psychos look persecuted. Giving up on them was an outbreak of sanity.0 -
Ofcourse not, May ended it because of endless harping on from Labour about how it was ethnic profiling by the back door.SeanT said:
Yeah. Ending stop and search was BOLLOCKS. But I don't see Sadiq clamouring to reintroduce it.nunu said:
Increased knife crime is May's fault. She insisted on ending stop and search against police wishes. No love for either of them tho. There is something about him that is very untrustworthy.SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
Oh, I wasn't expecting that to work TBH. Not after yesterday.
I wish to apologise for the flame war in which I was involved yesterday with somebody who shall remain anonymous. I don't wish to dwell on the matter, but suffice it to say I have an abiding personal loathing of bullies, which is what internet trolls are. If this were Twitter I would solve through mute and block, but sadly the mechanism is not available here.
That aside, no new thoughts. On topic, I'm siding with the punters: I don't see how May doesn't win this election, regardless of the problems with the campaign.
Still won't be happy until the exit poll comes out though.0 -
Yes I agree not living in London do not know as good as you the local issues.SeanT said:
It's enough for the first six months, I'd have thought. But eventually you have to start doing *something*Yorkcity said:
He is the first Muslim Mayor in a major western city .Also the son of a bus driver . Working class lad made good .SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
On a similar tack, those inclined to draw a connection between local and national elections should remember that EU citizens are entitled to vote in the former but not in the latter. I don't know if this would make a difference, but there are reputed to be 3m EU residents here.brokenwheel said:
I expect the majority of it to be based on greater life expectancy, but good Q.PaulM said:
Is there population growth of British citizens (who would be eligible) or is it driven by immigration (who might not be eligible) ?brokenwheel said:
46.4m registered for the 2015 GE so registration only back to what it was before IER, despite population growth.rottenborough said:0 -
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.0 -
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We're back to the 'racism is worse than stabbing' fallacy.AlsoIndigo said:
Ofcourse not, May ended it because of endless harping on from Labour about how it was ethnic profiling by the back door.SeanT said:
Yeah. Ending stop and search was BOLLOCKS. But I don't see Sadiq clamouring to reintroduce it.nunu said:
Increased knife crime is May's fault. She insisted on ending stop and search against police wishes. No love for either of them tho. There is something about him that is very untrustworthy.SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.
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Could IER be the reason the tories GAINED an overall majority?brokenwheel said:
46.4m registered for the 2015 GE so registration only back to what it was before IER, despite population growth.rottenborough said:0 -
Yes but when you are annoying it is often because you have a point.AlastairMeeks said:
Fortunately for me.RobD said:
Being annoying isn't a bannable offence.View_From_Cumbria said:
As trolls go TravelJunkie seems to be trying to break new records - how about banning him on his first day ???AlsoIndigo said:
Fake News. They were ruled incompatible with (Labour's) Human Rights ActTravelJunkie said:Theresa May as Home Secretary:
-Stopped control orders.0 -
Jezza in need of a lie down.
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/871753145445208064
Liverpool attacks?0 -
As they go down to vote, Da Yoof are all going to be wearing Jezza Flip-Flops....GIN1138 said:
Weak and Wobbly Jez?Scott_P said:@JournoStephen: For a Bolshevik, Corbyn can't even overthrow the government properly. https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/871749088575979521
Unless it's raining. In which case, fuck it.0 -
Dover is proper UKIP country. They got 10,000 votes there in 2015, up from 1,000 in 2010 while Labour remained stable. Even if Elphicke was in trouble, some of those former UKIP voters will surely be coming to his rescue.freetochoose said:
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.0 -
I will see if you still agree with them thoughts when they are re introduced by May under a different name.DavidL said:
That would be Liberal Democrat peer Lord Carlille who signed off on those provisions before they were introduced?Yorkcity said:
Lord Carlille reviewer of terrorism legislation does not agree with you.States that they were justified proportional and used as a last resort.Has slammed the decision of the conservatives to abolish them.AlsoIndigo said:
Not unless we leave the ECHR, which we should, but won't.Yorkcity said:
Well they will be introduced again very shortly.AlsoIndigo said:
Quite right too. They were incompatible with the Human Rights Act and unlawful under Article 6 ECHR, not to mention opposed by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, JUSTICE and Liberty. Labour bought forth a complete horlicks of a law and tried to force it through parliament, quite a lot of Labour MPs voted against it!Yorkcity said:
May voted against them.AlsoIndigo said:
Fake News. They were ruled incompatible with (Labour's) Human Rights ActTravelJunkie said:Theresa May as Home Secretary:
-Stopped control orders.
They gave some distinctly unsavoury people a free run through our courts at enormous public expense generating negative publicity and making these sick psychos look persecuted. Giving up on them was an outbreak of sanity.0 -
The control orders were ruled unlawful, will you stop this fake news.Yorkcity said:
Seant Do you agree with the government abolishing control orders ?SeanT said:
It's enough for the first six months, I'd have thought. But eventually you have to start doing *something*Yorkcity said:
He is the first Muslim Mayor in a major western city .Also the son of a bus driver . Working class lad made good .SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.
Here is the case.
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2006/1000.html
Standing back and looking at the overall picture, there can be only one conclusion. To say that the Act does not give the respondent in this case, against whom a non-derogating control order has been made by the Secretary of State, a fair hearing in the determination of his rights under Article 8 of the Convention would be an understatement. The court would be failing in its duty under the 1998 Act, a duty imposed upon the court by Parliament, if it did not say, loud and clear, that the procedure under the Act whereby the court merely reviews the lawfulness of the Secretary of State's decision to make the order upon the basis of the material available to him at that earlier stage are conspicuously unfair. The thin veneer of legality which is sought to be applied by section 3 of the Act cannot disguise the reality. That controlees' rights under the Convention are being determined not by an independent court in compliance with Article 6.1, but by executive decision-making, untrammelled by any prospect of effective judicial supervision.0 -
Has he had a tip off?dr_spyn said:Jezza in need of a lie down.
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/871753145445208064
Liverpool attacks?0 -
Don't think the candidate makes much difference if the swing is big enough tbh. However I'd imagine Dover unlikely to be a beacon for a pro immigration party somehow.freetochoose said:
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.0 -
"What is to be done?" As a Londoner, what changes would you like that fall within the Mayor's remit? All I can remember about Boris's 8-year stint is (a) he kept Ken and his mates out of office and (b) he introduced a network of clunky bicycles that still bear his name. If Khan goes 4 years without causing any damage it will be enough to secure re-election, though by then he may be needed elsewhere.SeanT said:
It's enough for the first six months, I'd have thought. But eventually you have to start doing *something*Yorkcity said:
He is the first Muslim Mayor in a major western city .Also the son of a bus driver . Working class lad made good .SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
It's not being done by PooGov, is it? If so - disregard.Black_Rook said:Oh, I wasn't expecting that to work TBH. Not after yesterday.
I wish to apologise for the flame war in which I was involved yesterday with somebody who shall remain anonymous. I don't wish to dwell on the matter, but suffice it to say I have an abiding personal loathing of bullies, which is what internet trolls are. If this were Twitter I would solve through mute and block, but sadly the mechanism is not available here.
That aside, no new thoughts. On topic, I'm siding with the punters: I don't see how May doesn't win this election, regardless of the problems with the campaign.
Still won't be happy until the exit poll comes out though.0 -
No because the transition to the IER register occurred in December 2015.nunu said:
Could IER be the reason the tories GAINED an overall majority?brokenwheel said:
46.4m registered for the 2015 GE so registration only back to what it was before IER, despite population growth.rottenborough said:0 -
With a turnout of 68% the Tories would need around 44% to beat John Major's record in 1992 for most votes ever recorded at a GE.rottenborough said:Young will not be enough?
https://twitter.com/ian_a_jones/status/8717384074158407690 -
Dover -20% ukipThePonderer said:
Hasting and Rye -13% ukip
Canterbury-14% ukip.
All lean labour? Clearly that is a bug of the model showing some funny results. Or they have not accounted for the collapse of the ukio vote properly.
Do they have any going the other way? Like suprising Tory leans?0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Miss Cyclefree, I hope your colleague is ok.0 -
what's the +/- on 2015 thoughIanB2 said:
That's a higher conversion of applications to registrations than we saw in 2015. Which suggests a lot of the "I have no idea whether I am registered already" duplicate applications found out the answer last year.rottenborough said:0 -
Ambassador to the US?Restharrow said:
"What is to be done?" As a Londoner, what changes would you like that fall within the Mayor's remit? All I can remember about Boris's 8-year stint is (a) he kept Ken and his mates out of office and (b) he introduced a network of clunky bicycles that still bear his name. If Khan goes 4 years without causing any damage it will be enough to secure re-election, though by then he may be needed elsewhere.SeanT said:
It's enough for the first six months, I'd have thought. But eventually you have to start doing *something*Yorkcity said:
He is the first Muslim Mayor in a major western city .Also the son of a bus driver . Working class lad made good .SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.0 -
It does indeed. I hope your colleague makes a good and speedy recovery.Cyclefree said:I have just learnt that a fellow employee was one of those attacked and is now in a coma after surgery.
Puts all the rest in perspective.
In such emergencies, the NHS shines. I found that out for myself last year.0 -
Bad Day at Black RookBlack_Rook said:... I wish to apologise for the flame war in which I was involved yesterday...
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Correct, the UKIP candidate this time hasn't bothered to visit the constituency, kippers won't be voting for young Stacey. For a polling company to call it "leaning Labour" is ridiculous, I had lunch with Elphicke and he's confident of an increased majority.KentRising said:
Dover is proper UKIP country. They got 10,000 votes there in 2015, up from 1,000 in 2010 while Labour remained stable. Even if Elphicke was in trouble, some of those former UKIP voters will surely be coming to his rescue.freetochoose said:
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.
As I said I have no idea how they're arriving at this conclusion but it makes even more certain of a huge Conservative win.0 -
It's been a long campaign for everyone.BigIan said:0 -
ooohhh....it's gonna be close! That's it I will have to vote Tory just to help break the record. Not that May deserves it ofcourse.AndyJS said:
With a turnout of 68% the Tories would need around 44% to beat John Major's record in 1992 for most votes ever recorded at a GE.rottenborough said:Young will not be enough?
https://twitter.com/ian_a_jones/status/8717384074158407690 -
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The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.0 -
Corbyn is a rank nasty disgusting evil barsteward of the highest order. Not fit to lace the shoelaces of Roy Mason although he does see fit to lick Gerry Adams' arse.DavidL said:
Has he had a tip off?dr_spyn said:Jezza in need of a lie down.
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/871753145445208064
Liverpool attacks?
What an odious pile of rancid vomit that man is.
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Putting you down as a maybe in the Labour column.TMA1 said:
Corbyn is a rank nasty disgusting evil barsteward of the highest order. Not fit to lace the shoelaces of Roy Mason although he does see fit to lick Gerry Adams' arse.DavidL said:
Has he had a tip off?dr_spyn said:Jezza in need of a lie down.
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/871753145445208064
Liverpool attacks?
What an odious pile of rancid vomit that man is.0 -
Somewhat understated but he does have better connections with these scum than any civilised person should.TMA1 said:
Corbyn is a rank nasty disgusting evil barsteward of the highest order. Not fit to lace the shoelaces of Roy Mason although he does see fit to lick Gerry Adams' arse.DavidL said:
Has he had a tip off?dr_spyn said:Jezza in need of a lie down.
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/871753145445208064
Liverpool attacks?
What an odious pile of rancid vomit that man is.0 -
Theresa May is 1.21 on Betfair to be next PM. Even if the Yougov is correct and Labour are running close in Canterbury, High Peak & Pudsey that still looks huge to me. I've gone back in :E0
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Hardly fake the conservatives did abolish them through parliament.AlsoIndigo said:
The control orders were ruled unlawful, will you stop this fake news.Yorkcity said:
Seant Do you agree with the government abolishing control orders ?SeanT said:
It's enough for the first six months, I'd have thought. But eventually you have to start doing *something*Yorkcity said:
He is the first Muslim Mayor in a major western city .Also the son of a bus driver . Working class lad made good .SeanT said:
Why is Sadiq popular? H's done F all except preside over increased knife crime and cancelled a bridge.Scott_P said:
Genuine confuzzled. He seems like an empty space to me, and not even charismatic in that Boris way. Answers welcome.
Here is the case.
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2006/1000.html
Standing back and looking at the overall picture, there can be only one conclusion. To say that the Act does not give the respondent in this case, against whom a non-derogating control order has been made by the Secretary of State, a fair hearing in the determination of his rights under Article 8 of the Convention would be an understatement. The court would be failing in its duty under the 1998 Act, a duty imposed upon the court by Parliament, if it did not say, loud and clear, that the procedure under the Act whereby the court merely reviews the lawfulness of the Secretary of State's decision to make the order upon the basis of the material available to him at that earlier stage are conspicuously unfair. The thin veneer of legality which is sought to be applied by section 3 of the Act cannot disguise the reality. That controlees' rights under the Convention are being determined not by an independent court in compliance with Article 6.1, but by executive decision-making, untrammelled by any prospect of effective judicial supervision.0 -
Yeah, pretty much :-(BigIan said:
Bad Day at Black RookBlack_Rook said:... I wish to apologise for the flame war in which I was involved yesterday...
I can't remember the details of all involved, but I'm pretty sure that this exit poll is being done by Ipsos Mori and that John Curtice is somehow involved as well, just like last time.Alice_Aforethought said:
It's not being done by PooGov, is it? If so - disregard.Black_Rook said:Oh, I wasn't expecting that to work TBH. Not after yesterday.
I wish to apologise for the flame war in which I was involved yesterday with somebody who shall remain anonymous. I don't wish to dwell on the matter, but suffice it to say I have an abiding personal loathing of bullies, which is what internet trolls are. If this were Twitter I would solve through mute and block, but sadly the mechanism is not available here.
That aside, no new thoughts. On topic, I'm siding with the punters: I don't see how May doesn't win this election, regardless of the problems with the campaign.
Still won't be happy until the exit poll comes out though.
The exit polls have been reasonable accurate in each of the past several elections.
Ah, the weather-turnout relationship... Well, it's a bit early to tell but it looks as though it might be peeing down on Thursday in the North and in Wales. +5 seats to the Tories?MarqueeMark said:
As they go down to vote, Da Yoof are all going to be wearing Jezza Flip-Flops....GIN1138 said:
Weak and Wobbly Jez?Scott_P said:@JournoStephen: For a Bolshevik, Corbyn can't even overthrow the government properly. https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/871749088575979521
Unless it's raining. In which case, fuck it.
+1AlastairMeeks said:The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
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I have campaigned for CharlieKentRising said:
Dover is proper UKIP country. They got 10,000 votes there in 2015, up from 1,000 in 2010 while Labour remained stable. Even if Elphicke was in trouble, some of those former UKIP voters will surely be coming to his rescue.freetochoose said:
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.
There is NO WAY he is going to loose this seat.,
And i am happy to take bets from those who think he
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Peter Salliss passes away peacefully at the ripe old age of 960
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That is great, show it is still a vocation for many.AlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
@SouthamObserver was correct at the time of the attack I reckon, Saturday Night at Borough Mkt is one of the quietest times of the week there. For one thing the market is closed, and secondly the city crowd are not about. The Wheatsheaf and Brindisa will still be packed, but they always are. Strange timing really0 -
NOM has come in to 5.4 and Lab maj in to 27. Con maj has drifted out to 1.28.0
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I think that it's because almost everyone that visits or lives in London has done Borough Market and/or the Shard. For some reason this attack has made everything feel a lot more 'real' for me than any other in the past decade since 7/7.SeanT said:
This attack came close to more Londoners than most. I'm not sure why. Perhaps because Borough Market is so quintessential to modern, exciting London - and also the Shard. And it's near to lots of newspaper and media offices, so the journalism was immediate?Cyclefree said:I have just learnt that a fellow employee was one of those attacked and is now in a coma after surgery.
Puts all the rest in perspective.
I was in the Market with my daughter the day the attack happened, in the very same bakery where some people took shelter, and we stood outside the restaurant that got shot up hours later.
My best female friend was there that night, and had to run and hide.
I've got other friends and acquaintances with similar stories
This one really hit home. I hope your colleague recovers.
Whereas I can't place myself at an Ariana Grande concert, or walking on the streets outside Westminster at midday. Borough Market on a Saturday night? Most of us have done that, and it could have been us.
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That is indeed truly humbling. (Mental note not to complain about doctors' pensions for at least 6 months).AlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.0 -
consensus at my workplace seems to be Birmingham is nextAlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
- large muslim population
- disaffected young preferring C7 to C21
- all attacks have been started by locals
the grim betting is that Broad Street ( weekend funspot ) is most likely target0 -
May PM has more margin. All the derivatives are crazily priced right now. Pick your bet.BigIan said:
Con Majority has drifted out to 1.28 as well, if you fancy some of that.Pulpstar said:Theresa May is 1.21 on Betfair to be next PM. Even if the Yougov is correct and Labour are running close in Canterbury, High Peak & Pudsey that still looks huge to me. I've gone back in :E
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He is a nasty disgusting barsteward. To put it mildly.GIN1138 said:
Weak and Wobbly Jez?Scott_P said:@JournoStephen: For a Bolshevik, Corbyn can't even overthrow the government properly. https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/871749088575979521
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Ah but Dover is "leaning Labour".RepublicanTory said:
I have campaigned for CharlieKentRising said:
Dover is proper UKIP country. They got 10,000 votes there in 2015, up from 1,000 in 2010 while Labour remained stable. Even if Elphicke was in trouble, some of those former UKIP voters will surely be coming to his rescue.freetochoose said:
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.
There is NO WAY he is going to loose this seat.,
And i am happy to take bets from those who think he
1 or 2 pollsters could easily go out of business I'm afraid.0 -
That is completely amazingBigIan said:
Con Majority has drifted out to 1.28 as well, if you fancy some of that.Pulpstar said:Theresa May is 1.21 on Betfair to be next PM. Even if the Yougov is correct and Labour are running close in Canterbury, High Peak & Pudsey that still looks huge to me. I've gone back in :E
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I loved Last of the Summer Wine. Sad news, but a good innings.dyedwoolie said:Peter Salliss passes away peacefully at the ripe old age of 96
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I'm completely split on how this election will go, firstly I seem to be seeing signs of the Con core slowly falling apart, but this is mostly in the safe shires, so if the polls are right then the Con majority should be greater than polls indicate. On the other hand, polls have massive weightings applied for shy Tories, what if there aren't as many as before? In which case gains could be an awful lot more limited.0
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Christ on a bike.Yorkcity said:
Hardly fake the conservatives did abolish them through parliament.
The Court ruled them to be incompatible with the HRA and the ECHR, after which the government could not use the law without every case being challenged in Brussells and Strasbourg, the court cannot actually disapply the law though, that has to be done by parliament and so it was.
The new TPIM order (which I will agree is far too feeble) is the absolute most the government could pass and not be ruled incompatible with the ECHR and the HRA. If the government tries to do the same again, they will be ruled against again.
The answer is to amend the HRA, and to resile from the ECHR, which we will have to do anyway if we want to control our borders from arriving terrorists, because of the way Article 5 is being interpreted by the courts. Labour will oppose both.0 -
... a loser on the national vote turnout.Barnesian said:
Very like Trump.nunu said:
or maybe we should ignore where corbyn goes as he only meets with hoades of adoring fans anyway.TudorRose said:
Quite. I suspect this has more to do with Darlington and Bishop Auckland than Gateshead.AndyJS said:
Labour are probably worried about a potential swing to the Tories in Northumberland and Teeside, perhaps Gateshead is the most obvious place to hold a rally for those areas.Gallowgate said:
But why bother? This seat is going red no matter what. We've not even had any Lib Dem or Tory literature. Nothing at all!AndyJS said:
Does it really matter where he is? 99.999% of people get their information via mediums of one sort or another, not by being in a specific location.Gallowgate said:FWIW Corbyn is speaking in Gateshead tonight. Gateshead...
Edit ... and look where that got him.0 -
Incidentally, if someone needed a proxy vote at short notice, is it easy/hard to get?0
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That interview was very humbling.Alanbrooke said:
consensus at my workplace seems to be Birmingham is nextAlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
- large muslim population
- disaffected young preferring C7 to C21
- all attacks have been started by locals
the grim betting is that Broad Street ( weekend funspot ) is most likely target
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But will you be voting for him or not?TMA1 said:
Corbyn is a rank nasty disgusting evil barsteward of the highest order. Not fit to lace the shoelaces of Roy Mason although he does see fit to lick Gerry Adams' arse.DavidL said:
Has he had a tip off?dr_spyn said:Jezza in need of a lie down.
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/871753145445208064
Liverpool attacks?
What an odious pile of rancid vomit that man is.0 -
If anywhere in Brum, there.Alanbrooke said:
consensus at my workplace seems to be Birmingham is nextAlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
- large muslim population
- disaffected young preferring C7 to C21
- all attacks have been started by locals
the grim betting is that Broad Street ( weekend funspot ) is most likely target0 -
Not as symbolic though.Alanbrooke said:
consensus at my workplace seems to be Birmingham is nextAlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
- large muslim population
- disaffected young preferring C7 to C21
- all attacks have been started by locals
the grim betting is that Broad Street ( weekend funspot ) is most likely target0 -
The weird thing is that they just walk away from this nonsense. And then produce more. Which is listened to. The only ones I can recall disappearing were that Canadian bunch who did an election (maybe 2015?) and then gave up.freetochoose said:
Ah but Dover is "leaning Labour".RepublicanTory said:
I have campaigned for CharlieKentRising said:
Dover is proper UKIP country. They got 10,000 votes there in 2015, up from 1,000 in 2010 while Labour remained stable. Even if Elphicke was in trouble, some of those former UKIP voters will surely be coming to his rescue.freetochoose said:
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.
There is NO WAY he is going to loose this seat.,
And i am happy to take bets from those who think he
1 or 2 pollsters could easily go out of business I'm afraid.0 -
Is it too early to nominate @The_Apocalypse as poster of the year? Open-minded, sticks up for herself but prepared to take on board different views? And of course outside the standard PB demographic.0
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Yokal said something the other night about joining these dots.Alanbrooke said:
consensus at my workplace seems to be Birmingham is nextAlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
- large muslim population
- disaffected young preferring C7 to C21
- all attacks have been started by locals
the grim betting is that Broad Street ( weekend funspot ) is most likely target0 -
My memory is that Brown and Blair went round campaigning together with Bown as Blairs human shield as he was so unpopular with the labour faithful. They kept buying each othe ice creams as I recall to show that they really likedveach other.The_Taxman said:
I think that Gordon Brown visited mostly Safe Labour or Semi- marginal seats from 2005 in the GE in 2010. I think they did this because outside of Labour, Brown was very unpopular. I suspect the same might be true with Corbyn. The left love him but anyone who is anything other than Labour are not well disposed to him. That is 70% of the population in all probability!RobD said:
Labour haven't changed their plans since then?RochdalePioneers said:
Simples. When the campaign started we were 20%+ behind in the polls. Which meant we were on track to lose places like Hartlepool to the Tories.Razedabode said:
Beat me to it! But very odd..Slackbladder said:Michael Crick @MichaelLCrick
Today Corbyn is visiting 4 Labour seats in North East. The average Lab majority in the seats is 9,084, or 22.9%. Why is Labour so defensive?
A good question Mr Crick.
Oh how we laughed.0 -
Wow....Thanks!pbr2013 said:Is it too early to nominate @The_Apocalypse as poster of the year? Open-minded, sticks up for herself but prepared to take on board different views? And of course outside the standard PB demographic.
I think there are many other posters on here more deserving of that title though, I don't think my posts are that insightful.
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'Conservatives on course for majority the same size as two weeks ago' does not sell nearly as well as 'Tory lead COLLAPSES', 'CORBYN on course for SHOCK TRIUMPH'.DavidL said:
The weird thing is that they just walk away from this nonsense. And then produce more. Which is listened to. The only ones I can recall disappearing were that Canadian bunch who did an election (maybe 2015?) and then gave up.freetochoose said:
Ah but Dover is "leaning Labour".RepublicanTory said:
I have campaigned for CharlieKentRising said:
Dover is proper UKIP country. They got 10,000 votes there in 2015, up from 1,000 in 2010 while Labour remained stable. Even if Elphicke was in trouble, some of those former UKIP voters will surely be coming to his rescue.freetochoose said:
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.
There is NO WAY he is going to loose this seat.,
And i am happy to take bets from those who think he
1 or 2 pollsters could easily go out of business I'm afraid.0 -
I'm genuinely puzzled, to call a seat where the tory is 1/200 "leading Labour" is unfathomable. It convinces me their entire MO is flawed in some way.DavidL said:
The weird thing is that they just walk away from this nonsense. And then produce more. Which is listened to. The only ones I can recall disappearing were that Canadian bunch who did an election (maybe 2015?) and then gave up.freetochoose said:
Ah but Dover is "leaning Labour".RepublicanTory said:
I have campaigned for CharlieKentRising said:
Dover is proper UKIP country. They got 10,000 votes there in 2015, up from 1,000 in 2010 while Labour remained stable. Even if Elphicke was in trouble, some of those former UKIP voters will surely be coming to his rescue.freetochoose said:
This tells me that the polling is just plain wrong. The Labour candidate is in her 20s, miles out of her depth, Elphicke is best price 1/200 to win.ThePonderer said:
No idea how or why but they are massively overstating Labour's chances.
There is NO WAY he is going to loose this seat.,
And i am happy to take bets from those who think he
1 or 2 pollsters could easily go out of business I'm afraid.0 -
Scott_P said:
I think it could be the other way around. The Democrats will likely take the House next year, get overconfident and pick a left liberal like Warren who Trump will beat having been forced to the centre.
In London Alan Sugar loathes Khan judging by his Twitter feed and having endorsed May in this general election might be tempted to run in the Tory primary, he would certainly have a better chance of beating Khan than Goldsmith did0 -
Do you work at MI5 ?Alanbrooke said:
consensus at my workplace seems to be Birmingham is nextAlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
- large muslim population
- disaffected young preferring C7 to C21
- all attacks have been started by locals
the grim betting is that Broad Street ( weekend funspot ) is most likely target
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I cannot imagine myself at an Ariana Grande concert but I have dropped children off at concerts and gone to some with them. So that felt real too. There was something especially cruel about targeting excited youngsters at that age when they are children but on the brink of turning a little bit adult and beginning to do adult things - trying on make up but still (secretly) keen on teddies - and their parents, wanting them to enjoy themselves but not yet able to let them go by themselves. Such a precious time.Chameleon said:
I think that it's because almost everyone that visits or lives in London has done Borough Market and/or the Shard. For some reason this attack has made everything feel a lot more 'real' for me than any other in the past decade since 7/7.SeanT said:
This attack came close to more Londoners than most. I'm not sure why. Perhaps because Borough Market is so quintessential to modern, exciting London - and also the Shard. And it's near to lots of newspaper and media offices, so the journalism was immediate?Cyclefree said:I have just learnt that a fellow employee was one of those attacked and is now in a coma after surgery.
Puts all the rest in perspective.
I was in the Market with my daughter the day the attack happened, in the very same bakery where some people took shelter, and we stood outside the restaurant that got shot up hours later.
My best female friend was there that night, and had to run and hide.
I've got other friends and acquaintances with similar stories
This one really hit home. I hope your colleague recovers.
Whereas I can't place myself at an Ariana Grande concert, or walking on the streets outside Westminster at midday. Borough Market on a Saturday night? Most of us have done that, and it could have been us.
Anywhere, any time, any one of us.
Still, fuck'em. They're scumbags. We've survived and beaten other losers. We'll survive and beat this latest lot too.0 -
There may be a lot of potential for the Shy Tory Problem to rear its ugly head again this time. Remember, the Conservatives are looking for gains in traditional Labour areas - in the Midlands, and especially up North - where there is a long cultural Labour tradition, and people can feel very embarrassed about owning up to their intention to vote Tory.Chameleon said:I'm completely split on how this election will go, firstly I seem to be seeing signs of the Con core slowly falling apart, but this is mostly in the safe shires, so if the polls are right then the Con majority should be greater than polls indicate. On the other hand, polls have massive weightings applied for shy Tories, what if there aren't as many as before? In which case gains could be an awful lot more limited.
Doubts? Read this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/labour-voters-fear-friends-and-family-will-disown-them-for-switching-to-tories-huffpost-edelman-focus-group_uk_59205461e4b03b485cb1e86b
It's absolutely extraordinary. Some of these people sound as if they're confessing to a crime.0 -
what is C7 and C21?Cyclefree said:
That interview was very humbling.Alanbrooke said:
consensus at my workplace seems to be Birmingham is nextAlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
- large muslim population
- disaffected young preferring C7 to C21
- all attacks have been started by locals
the grim betting is that Broad Street ( weekend funspot ) is most likely target0 -
Presumably she meant IT? I get to pay a little more for the privilege of trying to run a business in Scotland than I would in England now.calum said:
This campaign really can't come to an end soon enough.0 -
You are welcome. Don't put yourself down.The_Apocalypse said:
Wow....Thanks!pbr2013 said:Is it too early to nominate @The_Apocalypse as poster of the year? Open-minded, sticks up for herself but prepared to take on board different views? And of course outside the standard PB demographic.
I think there are many other posters on here more deserving of that title though, I don't think my posts are that insightful.0 -
do you work in Birmingham ?David_Evershed said:
Do you work at MI5 ?Alanbrooke said:
consensus at my workplace seems to be Birmingham is nextAlastairMeeks said:The head of A&E at the Royal London Hospital was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-attack-trauma-surgeon-malach-ramadan-van-bridge-borough-market-stabbing-victims-not-speak-a7772846.html
This bit leapt out to me:
"Dr Ramadhan said the reason so many people were able to come in and work was because they had been waiting for something like the attack to happen.
He said people working in trauma and emergency care had recently not been doing what they would usually do on a Saturday night.
“People are ready. The major trauma system in London has been preparing for something to happen" he explained. “So doctors like myself who might be going to Borough to see friends... on Saturday night we had a lot of people who were completely sober and ready to help the public"."
The quiet way in which some of our citizens give up part of their private life as a precaution for the rest of us is humbling.
- large muslim population
- disaffected young preferring C7 to C21
- all attacks have been started by locals
the grim betting is that Broad Street ( weekend funspot ) is most likely target0 -
Between her and @RochdalePioneers.pbr2013 said:Is it too early to nominate @The_Apocalypse as poster of the year? Open-minded, sticks up for herself but prepared to take on board different views? And of course outside the standard PB demographic.
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Apperently a labour source said the postal votes don't look good for labour in Ealing central! if true then this is a landslide.0
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Oh no. He will forever be Wallace from Wallace and Gromit. For me anyway. The number of times our family has watched those films...... masterpieces each and every one though The Wrong Trousers still edges it for me.jonny83 said:
I loved Last of the Summer Wine. Sad news, but a good innings.dyedwoolie said:Peter Salliss passes away peacefully at the ripe old age of 96
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Cracking life, Gromit.dyedwoolie said:Peter Salliss passes away peacefully at the ripe old age of 96
RIP0
