Whatever has happened, the election can't be allowed to be derailed by it IMHO.
This event *will* be extremely politicised.
It's far, far too close to the General Election.
Postponing the election would be a massive victory for the terrorists in my opinion.
Who's talking about postponing the election??? If the country stops every time something like this happens we may as well become a caliphate now.
Yeah it'snot going to happen nor should it. People are going to realize this sort of thing is going to have to be part of everyday life i'm afraid
You can't let these bastards win.
And I very much doubt that the increase in tempo is unrelated to the fact that there is a looming election. As soon as the election is done, I'd expect a fall off in the rate. That being the case, it would not just be morally wrong to delay the election, but foolish too.
Whatever has happened, the election can't be allowed to be derailed by it IMHO.
This event *will* be extremely politicised.
It's far, far too close to the General Election.
Postponing the election would be a massive victory for the terrorists in my opinion.
Non-starter of an idea I would have thought. How would it work? Privy Council asks her Maj to change the date?
After the Manchester attack there were quite a few people (not on here) saying the election campaign should have been postponed for a lot longer than it was. I was thinking of that.
Would the be the widest reported drunk driver accident in history if that is the case?
Meanwhile, elsewhere in Britain, five people were killed and 70 seriously injured on the roads today, as they are every day. Lots of grieving families and shattered lives.
I don't think you can compare accidents with a deliberate attack, if that is what it is.
How common are stabbings in Borough Market? Genuine question.
Not at all. We have our office there. It's very low crime - hipster central, in fact. Usually lots of tourists, lots of office workers, lots of bars and restaurants, a lot of people outside drinking. Saturday night is actually less crowded than it would be on a Thursday or Friday night. But from the sounds of it, plenty were there.
Would the be the widest reported drunk driver accident in history if that is the case?
Meanwhile, elsewhere in Britain, five people were killed and 70 seriously injured on the roads today, as they are every day. Lots of grieving families and shattered lives.
Your point is what exactly?
If it is terrorist attack, and we don't know yet, they want to provoke just the sort of reaction we are seeing here. Don't over react. If you want to be emotional, there are many worse personal tragedies than this appears to be. Manchester for one.
Here's an idea. Consider posting. Then step away for 5 minutes and have a good think. If you still think your post is something you won't regret, then post.
Would the be the widest reported drunk driver accident in history if that is the case?
Meanwhile, elsewhere in Britain, five people were killed and 70 seriously injured on the roads today, as they are every day. Lots of grieving families and shattered lives.
Your point is what exactly?
If it is terrorist attack, and we don't know yet, they want to provoke just the sort of reaction we are seeing here. Don't over react. If you want to be emotional, there are many worse personal tragedies than this appears to be. Manchester for one.
I'm sceptical of anyone who mentions that they are "ex-military", but I'd hold back on judging the scale of this incident for now.
The psycho who carried out the car attack in Times Square in NYC a fortnight ago, killing one person and injuring 20, wasn't a jihadist. Just saying.
Did he get out and start stabbing people?
Police emptying out a hotel - people leaving in night clothes so the police think this is something beyond a drunk driver
That suggests bomb threat. Things are really not adding up here. Stabbing & Van can make sense, that plus immediate hotel evac and riot officers + shields does not.
Would the be the widest reported drunk driver accident in history if that is the case?
Meanwhile, elsewhere in Britain, five people were killed and 70 seriously injured on the roads today, as they are every day. Lots of grieving families and shattered lives.
Your point is what exactly?
If it is terrorist attack, and we don't know yet, they want to provoke just the sort of reaction we are seeing here. Don't over react. If you want to be emotional, there are many worse personal tragedies than this appears to be. Manchester for one.
Sometimes not reacting enough out of fear of overreacting too much might be a bad idea. We shall see.
Seems a strange time to do it. Saturday during the day, any time during the week, and it would be chocka. Saturday night, though, there'd be comparatively fewer people around.
That's the one saving grace with contemporary terrorism, you modern day Jihadist is often a bit of an idiot, and doesn't have the training and logistical support that terrorist of the 70s had.
They all seem to be graduates of crap unis....
True, but not getting shipments of explosives and weapons from friendly state sponsors, or training from foreign militaries does limit their ability a hell of a lot. Imagine a group like the PLO with the ideology of IS, as bad as things are they aren't as bad as they might have been.
suspects 'same appearance as the Manchester person' - cabbie on the scene.
2 legs, 2 arms? Hmm, narrows it down a bit.
LBC has settled on 'Mediterranean'
Well the old Italians are notoriously bad drivers...
In my experience all Italian drivers are bad.
Observing traffic lights seems to be optional, and it's either foot entirely down on the accelerator or foot down on the brake.
France can be a challenge too.
My two favourite incidents was trying to join a motorway in the South and a heavy storm had brought traffic to a standstill. I was on the slip road and was passed at same time by two cars reversing down the slip road - one on either side of me.
Also at a roundabout in Vire - guy misses his exit - instead of going around he stopped and reversed.
Here's an idea. Consider posting. Then step away for 5 minutes and have a good think. If you still think your post is something you won't regret, then post.
But don't do this if you are trying to nab the prestigious first.
Would the be the widest reported drunk driver accident in history if that is the case?
Meanwhile, elsewhere in Britain, five people were killed and 70 seriously injured on the roads today, as they are every day. Lots of grieving families and shattered lives.
Whatever has happened, the election can't be allowed to be derailed by it IMHO.
This event *will* be extremely politicised.
It's far, far too close to the General Election.
Postponing the election would be a massive victory for the terrorists in my opinion.
Non-starter of an idea I would have thought. How would it work? Privy Council asks her Maj to change the date?
Isn't there provisions in the CCA of 2004 to suspend an election?
Couldn't find the word 'election' in the CCA 2004.
It's one of those Acts with lots of ambiguity and sweeping powers
"any provision which the person making the regulations is satisfied is appropriate" to protect human life, health and safety and protect or restore property and supplies of money, food, water, energy or fuel.
Threats to transport and other forms of communication, to banks and other financial institutions, to land, water or air through contamination, to the the running of parliaments in Westminster and Edinburgh and assemblies in Belfast and Cardiff and to other "public functions" are all covered by the legislation.
Would the be the widest reported drunk driver accident in history if that is the case?
Meanwhile, elsewhere in Britain, five people were killed and 70 seriously injured on the roads today, as they are every day. Lots of grieving families and shattered lives.
Your point is what exactly?
If it is terrorist attack, and we don't know yet, they want to provoke just the sort of reaction we are seeing here. Don't over react. If you want to be emotional, there are many worse personal tragedies than this appears to be. Manchester for one.
The reaction on here is totally OTT.
If peopke cannot be ott on the internet where can they be? There's a reason we leave the actual doing things to elected officials and security professionals, while we flap.
The psycho who carried out the car attack in Times Square in NYC a fortnight ago, killing one person and injuring 20, wasn't a jihadist. Just saying.
Did he get out and start stabbing people? People like the managing Editor of the Spectator says that is what happened.
No, but so what? I think this was probably a jihadist too, mainly because "London Bridge" sounds iconic in most of the world. But no point in jumping to conclusions.
Will Heaven's info about stabbing was secondhand from a cab driver. Probably true though.
suspects 'same appearance as the Manchester person' - cabbie on the scene.
2 legs, 2 arms? Hmm, narrows it down a bit.
LBC has settled on 'Mediterranean'
Well the old Italians are notoriously bad drivers...
In my experience all Italian drivers are bad.
Observing traffic lights seems to be optional, and it's either foot entirely down on the accelerator or foot down on the brake.
Driving in Portugal was the worst I have experienced.
Malaysia. Not fast, but they just wander out of their lanes without any warning.....
Actually no I have changed my mine...Panama City, Panama....not only terrible mental traffic, the kids sell beer and fireworks car to car in the jams....so hot headed latinos in massive humidity pissed off at being jammed up in traffic and consumed a few beers in the car during their journey with some fireworks on the passenger seat...recipe for orderly calm driving.
Video on Twitter of officers entering a bar and screaming at everyone to get down. Worried about gunfire or perhaps seeking assailants who have tried to disguise themselves within the crowd.
Video on Twitter of officers entering a bar and screaming at everyone to get down. Worried about gunfire or perhaps seeking assailants who have tried to disguise themselves within the crowd.
My brother-in-law is a City of London cop. He's just texted my wife - looks like a terrorist attack, three suspects.
I just hope that guy talking about gunfire was mistaken.
That's my real fear. Guns are magnitudes more effective than knives.
The most scary thing about the Panorama special on Belgium terrorists was that it was possible to pre-order your weapons to be dropped off, kinda of Amazon Prime for Jahadis. And the authorities had no idea who was the sleeper cell doing this.
They say it's not THAT far away from London Bridge but not right close by... its fucking opposite London Bridge Stn?!?!
Despite the jokes, it's not actually ridiculous that there could be a mixture of terrorist incident and "normal saturday night" stuff.
If this a terrorist incident, then a very bad night to 'merely' be a regular violent criminal going about their business or drunken idiot having an incident, given the different response that will occur.
This sounds much bigger and more organised than Westminster.
3 armed men. Two different incidents? Gunfire and stabbings....
Complete speculation, but if you were going to split into two groups and commit two simultaneous attacks would you choose two targets so close to each others?
Time will tell what is going on. It sounds very ominous at the moment, but we should also consider that the police are likely to be on particular alert right now anyway. And safety first is a good approach in circumstances like this.
They say it's not THAT far away from London Bridge but not right close by... its fucking opposite London Bridge Stn?!?!
Sky are useless at this type of reporting. Clueless. BBC are actually doing a sterling job, on News 24 and radio.
Sky will just put on the air any random person who rings up claiming to be a witness. I remember there was a train crash years ago where they were regularly citing a witness claiming "at least 40 people killed". In the event there were about 3.
This sounds much bigger and more organised than Westminster.
3 armed men. Two different incidents? Gunfire and stabbings....
Complete speculation, but if you were going to split into two groups and commit two simultaneous attacks would you choose two targets so close to each others?
Time will tell what is going on. It sounds very ominous at the moment, but we should also consider that the police are likely to be on particular alert right now anyway. And safety first is a good approach in circumstances like this.
No, you'd go for opposite ends of London. Clever timing though, what with the CL final in Cardiff.
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Observing traffic lights seems to be optional, and it's either foot entirely down on the accelerator or foot down on the brake.
The reaction on here is totally OTT.
My two favourite incidents was trying to join a motorway in the South and a heavy storm had brought traffic to a standstill. I was on the slip road and was passed at same time by two cars reversing down the slip road - one on either side of me.
Also at a roundabout in Vire - guy misses his exit - instead of going around he stopped and reversed.
"any provision which the person making the regulations is satisfied is appropriate" to protect human life, health and safety and protect or restore property and supplies of money, food, water, energy or fuel.
Threats to transport and other forms of communication, to banks and other financial institutions, to land, water or air through contamination, to the the running of parliaments in Westminster and Edinburgh and assemblies in Belfast and Cardiff and to other "public functions" are all covered by the legislation.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/aug/09/sweeping-powers-civil-contingencies-act
Will Heaven's info about stabbing was secondhand from a cab driver. Probably true though.
Are they having an affair?
They say it's not THAT far away from London Bridge but not right close by... its fucking opposite London Bridge Stn?!?!
Time will tell what is going on. It sounds very ominous at the moment, but we should also consider that the police are likely to be on particular alert right now anyway. And safety first is a good approach in circumstances like this.
Night all.